Gran Turismo 7 - IS A WHEEL & PEDALS WORTH IT? - PS5 DualSense VS. Fanatec GT DD Pro
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While we're working on our full review of Gran Turismo 7, I had the opportunity to do a direct comparison between gameplay on the standard PlayStation DualSense Controller and the Fanatec GT DD Pro.
Other than being familiar with the track, I'm jumping into this with absolutely zero experience on the game with either the wheel or the controller, so let's see exactly what difference the wheel and pedals make over the controller!
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@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
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@degeautdfanfirst 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Jmab-rv7jc 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to see you do a review on GT7 vs Asseto Corsa on PS5. Would like to see which one is a better game in ps5 specially after asseto’s new update
@robertbradburn9616 2 жыл бұрын
I race and win with a ps4 controller...gt7 is amazing
@GSS_94 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember GT2 on the ps1 it was an amazing experience.
@Theworstchannelposting 2 жыл бұрын
I love the PS5 controller and GT7 becasue im in a wheelchair, and it brought back the feeling of driving for me. It could use a lil more tweaking but I love it.
@eL_K_Dee 2 жыл бұрын
instead of the left stick on the controller for steering, try changing it to 'motion'... it will take a couple laps to get used to but it's so much more fun.. try it and see :)
@Theworstchannelposting 2 жыл бұрын
I need to do that!
@LOOKINVERTED 2 жыл бұрын
@@eL_K_Dee I can confirm that too. I'm paraplegic and a permanent wheelchair user and have always been a little frustrated that the more affordable commercial steering wheel products never seem to have the appropriate analogue levers on the wheel for throttle and brake placement (where you'd normally have the gear shifters so need an additional analogue set beside them). So since GT Sport I'd navigated to using the DualSense's motion capability for steering as an alternative. As 'eL K Dee' says it takes a bit of getting used to but once you've driven with it for a sustained period it feels pretty realistic and intuitive, far better than the tiny thumbstick which causes constant over-corrections (as he was demonstrating in this video through no fault of his own), only drawback being the lack of force feedback of course (though the haptic feedback certainly goes some way in "feeling" that car rotation - along with the adaptive triggers (which you don't get with affordable steering wheel pedals so they've something over those in that respect). Highly recommended, I'll never go back now, at least until I can afford a much more expensive setup from "SimAbility" - who.. 'makes hand controls for simulation racing gamers with disabilities who want to go beyond using gamepads but need alternatives to standard wheel-and-pedals setups' (as their advertising blurb suggests).
@eL_K_Dee 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOOKINVERTED it's an inexpensive alternative to a rig and also if say you arew a casual gamer and dont just do racing and are at some moment too lazy to pull out the wheel and all, this motion steering alternative is a quick solution for more of a 'feel'.. This gyro tech has been around since the PS3.. but we barely see games use the hardware to it's fullest potential!
@LOOKINVERTED 2 жыл бұрын
@@eL_K_Dee Absolutely, don't disagree really, thankfully these motion sensing controllers are becoming utilised and incorporated more & more despite them being in circulation for a while and already within a lot of basic tech. I suppose we ultimately all want choices and options don't we, solutions that cater for varying functions and abilities and that to be considered when programming. It's an exciting time for tech with these innovations in gaming (shame the world's turned to shit with all the collateral damage such as the semi-conductor shortage otherwise everyone could get involved). I'm thankful I managed to obtain a PS5, particularly with the adaptive triggers - absolutely love those, though granted you can use the motion thingamajig on PS4. The SimAbility route I mentioned was more about being one of my ultimate wish lists since until recently I couldn't enjoy racing games properly at all before now. To be fair, you're right, it's not as high up on my list as it was.
@SuperMacBrother 2 жыл бұрын
CONTROLLER TIP: push the left stick (steering) fully forwards and you are able to incrementally steer smoother. Makes a huge difference in consistency and control. 👍
@ralphharrison6622 2 жыл бұрын
woah, for real? ill give it a go, thanks for the tip.
@DimarRFS 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, that makes sense. Thanks for the tip.
@KayosWONER 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to pull it back but same idea this works great
@Furbsta 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip dude
@stoopidhaters 2 жыл бұрын
Only issue with that is you grind the stick. This is not present on the PS5s Dualsense, but the DualShock 4s stick housing is quite sharp which grinds the stick overtime.
@hughxthexhand 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure most of us begin our SIM racing experience on gran Turismo at some point, especially the older gens like me pushing 50. I'm having an absolute blast on GT7, no it's not iRacing or ACC but in alot of ways it's better the gt reminds us of the fun we had playing racing games, it has enough realism to be challenging and enough diversity for unadulterated fun. Oh last night I setup a race on nordschleife 1 hr long GT3 cars starting at dusk then into full darkness, it was absolutely beautiful.
@herrlogan17 2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that! :)
@atarimasters 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we had a wheel for are PlayStation 1 with grand turismo and Driver 2. Crazy how sim racing has evolved.
@k1mura92 2 жыл бұрын
I fell off sim racing some months ago, picked up GT7 (I got started with GT1 as a child) and honestly I'm having a lot more fun with GT7 than the sim titles. The pure driving experience is pretty damn good, although I prefer ACC/AC/AMS2 in terms of pure driving. But the amount of details on the wide variety on cars, the customization options and the "career/cafe" mode just makes the game so damn fun.
@klintonkacatin 2 жыл бұрын
I can add that at the time of origin Gran Turismo, PC had superior offerings so history just repeats
@ZDubsMGS 2 жыл бұрын
@@klintonkacatin Yeah, after you've modded the game into oblivion, PC is better.
@robotninja530 2 жыл бұрын
I found that I was alot less reckless on the wheel than I am on controller. Probably due to muscle memory from actual driving. Got better lap times because of it.
@Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie Жыл бұрын
Same here. I normally throw the car through corners on a controller
@ImParzelli Жыл бұрын
Thats the only reason i would want to get a wheel, your able to turn much later & carry more speed if you know how to use the wheel right. Quick turns, something not possible on controller you gotta invest in one line.
@wurble 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 40 something guy who played racing games (especially Gran Turismo) for years with a controller and always did pretty well. When GT Sport came out I decided to finally treat myself to a G29 wheel and pedals. It was definitely a game changer. I think with a controller I'd be in the mid area of A rated driver. With the wheel I'm in the low A+ rating. I do still use the controller for single player mode, but when I race online and want to be as fast as possible, my wheel is a MUST. I'd love to upgrade to a Fanatec but I just don't know if I can justify spending nearly £1000 on one.
@sleepingwarrior4618 2 жыл бұрын
If you buy direct from their website, it's not that expensive but your point is valid.
@Code-n-Flame 2 жыл бұрын
I'm about to do the same exact thing with the shifter and an FGT lite cockpit because like you I'm stuck in the mid A license. The trial with the blue Tundra is making me wanna pull my hair out!
@wurble 2 жыл бұрын
@@Code-n-Flame No, I mean the driver rating A+ that you get in GT Sport from participating in daily races and the FIA races. And there's a very good reason why you're struggling with the licence challenge in the Tundra in GT7. Things got messed up in the last update meaning that the wrong tyres are now on vehicles in the dirt challenges. They should have dirt tyres on , but have comfort or sport tyres on instead. Wait until the issue is fixed before bothering with any dirt challenges. I got caught out too in the jeep mission challenge.
@quoaitran1135 2 жыл бұрын
@@Code-n-Flame is it that fuel save mission?
@caseyjones4011 2 жыл бұрын
@@wurble well that explains why it feels like driving on ice.
@KemBroVids 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison Will. Looking forward to your full review and seeing if, with your experience, you can find even more detailed settings for the DD Pro.
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Quick note on Motion Control. I did try it but have never gotten along with it. I find it really disorienting with no friction or force feedback. It’s always been that way for me ever since Mario Kart on Wii. I honestly figured most people preferred using the thumb stick for steering but apparently there’s plenty of people who prefer using motion. Will have to check it out in more detail in another video and see if I can adapt to it. Should be interesting!
@philipatkings9225 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like it...get the sensitivity on minus 1 and I changed r1 to gear up and l1 to gear down. I'm happy but of course if I could afford 800 quid I'd get the wheel...😂
@bobgraton854 2 жыл бұрын
I think a good driver should be faster with a controller using motion sensor because you don't have to work against the force feedback. Great sensitivity and faster respond time!
@Saad.D 2 жыл бұрын
Gyro is amazing for a controller user. The improvements to the vibrations have made it much easier to position the car too compared to GT sport. I can't wrap my head around stick users, but I guess they can't either for gyro
@Koen1702 2 жыл бұрын
@@Saad.D I'm still not fully used to the gyro controls, I'm a bit faster with them. But my lap times are much more consistent now!
@pv1nny714 2 жыл бұрын
to me motion control works better when you are sitting in the drivers seat. You can see the wheel and react accordingly. That is what works for me.
@philmcgrogup5575 2 жыл бұрын
I've always found consistency is the big problem with a controller for me, I can tie together a good lap here and there but generally speaking I make more mistakes and have more variation in my lap times each lap.
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Yep exactly the same experience for me
@MilhadSalihi 2 жыл бұрын
@@boostedmedia Where the wheel shines is during the races with tire usage. Due to smoother inputs your tires will last significantly longer when using the wheel. But for the average player, i think the controller will do fine, it's not like the game is unplayable on the controller.
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I agree.
@rayeasom 2 жыл бұрын
Controller that comes with the console or £3000 rig to improve your lap times by a few seconds. That’s what it comes down to. For the average person who plays the game for fun it just isn’t an investment that’s worth the money. If however you are doing this as a job, via KZfaq content creation or esports then it’s with drilling that sort of cash on the rig.
@speedx357ify 2 жыл бұрын
@@rayeasom yea but the experience even with a 250$ wheel is much better than a controller, you don't need 3k
@victorkuria8068 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison….I felt an immediate change in the controller response when driving in GT 7 that’s been missing since GT5 in my opinion..so thank you for confirming that…as for the times…I was impressed by little the difference in lap times was…thanks again..great review!!!
@MandakiniDiaries Жыл бұрын
I used to use the gyro tilt steering option on the dual shock controller, which gives you more steering-like smooth input. This is what I love about PS controllers. You don't need to use the left thumb.
@twenty-2923 Жыл бұрын
Wow didn’t realize how amazing and entertaining racing games can be never seen gameplay on these types of game. You commentary and review made it even better to watch. Will definitely be looking more in this community and watch more videos 🔥
@car_pal 2 жыл бұрын
my most memorable car from the gt series was the Gt-One :P
@GSS_94 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing GT2 on ps1. How far we've come over the years. It's really amazing
@carloscedeno5783 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those situations where if you have the setup and money to get both the wheels and pedals, you should definitely go for it. The level of immersion exponentially grows once you play a racing game like this. I've always played on a controller due to not having a proper setup but i knew that once GT7 came out, i was going to do it right. No regrets. I was pretty good on controller and I'm even faster on my full wheel/pedal/shifter setup since you can make minor corrections that are not simply possible using a thumbstick or the triggers on a controller. Currently all gold with all assists off/hard AI. 15 books in and the first 2 licenses all gold. NGL though...the last license test with the supra for A was tough. Barely squeezed gold on that one :D
@WoodysOpinion101 2 жыл бұрын
You waited for gt7 before getting a wheel and peddles lol... really what we're you thinking... it not a real sim!
@EmperorUsul 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodysOpinion101 take the stick out of your rear bud, it doesnt go there
@Gattsu1986 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmperorUsul I don't think it's just the stick he's got up there 👀
@iXlnte 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gattsu1986 true, I think he’s put his ego somewhere up there too.
@carloscedeno5783 2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodysOpinion101 hey it looks like your reading comprehension skills are lacking. i clearly said "racing game" and not "sim racer." Good try there, buddy.
@parkman8595 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you try this with a low downforce/road car! I think the smoothness with a wheel would help significantly with a road car.
@danfry909 2 жыл бұрын
Top content that you guys make. Really great work as always.
@joelfoxall811 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing. Good timing I got GT7 yesterday. Keep up the good content 🎉
@Barry.R 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear! Just dropped 1k on the DD Pro premium bundle for my first Fanatec set up 👌
@azngouki 2 жыл бұрын
The dual sense is incredible. The triggers provide so much feedback to the point you can feel the abs and fuel cut off of the traction control in each trigger. A sim rig is goals but controller is doing a fine fine job.
@trevorbye6965 2 жыл бұрын
yep the haptics in the triggers are pretty crazy. i thought it was going to be gimmicky, but it’s a significant feature, you get so much more feel for what’s going on in the car both with the throttle and the brake
@kooaid9 2 жыл бұрын
The motion on the dual sense is actually very accurate it’s not bad at all doesn’t feel like it’s just a gimmick
@onesixski Жыл бұрын
Was gonna say this too. I got a wheel because I am utterly worthless with controllers (no pressure sensitivity with gas/brake, easy to over and understeer with a joystick, no real feedback)… but of course I get my wheel for GT7, and realize I can use motion control for GT7 before the wheel comes in- and it feels great. Still prefer the wheel but I could have easily been cool using just motion control if I’d realized before I spent like $700 on a wheel and frame
@SomeDudeDan 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review and for this update! I have just ordered one of these beauties, can’t wait to get it!
@Ryan-gv9ec 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, please never change that intro f1 v10 God car sound love it 😀
@Tomfez92 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for my DD pro in the mail! Upgrade from a T80 but these videos are getting me hyped!
@vipstarizm6990 2 жыл бұрын
This was super interesting and a surprising result especialy considering u probably dont use a controller much these days. After 25 years we now get the grand tourismo experience we all wished for. The nostalgia is real. Great video!
@staticshockboxing 2 жыл бұрын
The motion control setting with the controller is a great option too for some natural smoothness.
@carllavery4442 2 жыл бұрын
I've just come across the channel and really enjoyed the video. The PS5 controller does an amazing job with this game and I just picked up the G29 wheel to go with it, only had a quick go and was probably slower but it was a lot of fun. I tried it on F1 which I'm more familiar with and was immediately up to speed on Albert Park, just waiting on a chair to set it up permanently
@grantdoughty9657 2 жыл бұрын
Even though you were just battling yourself you still had me on the edge of my seat haha. I look forward to some more gt content
@Jbirdsprings Жыл бұрын
Great video and phenomenally instructiveThanks so much for posting. Joe
@Major_Watts 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always! I’ve had a wheel for a week (never used one prior) and I went back to the controller for a few laps lastnight and I’m still considerably faster on a controller.. I’m ok with this though, the thought of mastering a wheel and being completely immersed is way more important than being fast for me personally right now.. I also know that given more time I will at faster and more consistent with the wheel!
@64Papiculo 2 жыл бұрын
I played most of the GT series with a controller. Bought a wheel for GT5 but I was way faster with controller. I began to play GT sport at release with controller and stop playing it for a few years after finishing the solo part. A few months ago I decided to buy a g29 to play VR mode and master it before GT7's release. I mostly played time trials many hours a day and couldn't beat my controller times for almost a week. Within the next two weeks I beat all the online trophies and finally got the plat. GT has always been great with controllers and I think the haptic vibrations of the dualsense are a great addition and feel really good, but when you'll get used to the wheel you will probably have a hard time moving back to controller ;) And by the way, Gt sport's VR mode is absolutely mind blowing with a wheel! Hope they will do something with GT7 and PSVR2 🤩
@gamerpodium13 2 жыл бұрын
When using a controller for so long, switching to a wheel is a bit of a shock. Takes some getting used to.
@xxticxxtocxx7909 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how we drive cars in real life, but our first experience swapping from controller to wheel feels so foreign. I've used a wheel for over twenty years now, but still can only drift cars with any control or accuracy using a controller.
@chrisjames5823 2 жыл бұрын
Until you fine tune ur wheel settings ur gonna have a hard time being faster. You have to find a happy medium of resistance without the force feedback trying to toss u around. I find it frustrating. I have done 136 mph in my subaru.... the wheel doesn't fight me.... but for some reason these "realistic" wheels are just laughable.
@PhatMikeSP1 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjames5823 totally agree, imo the controller is good mostly because you’re not fighting the force feedback and get the benefits of haptic feedback on ps5 controller especially with the dodge tomahawk
@combustioncorner 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Always informative as usual. I am on the fence because I want to get a PlayStation compatible base but want to move up from my CSW 2.5 to a DD1 force feedback wise. The hesitation is I know the second it comes in I am sure they will release the CSW DD which will probably take out the DD1. My theory is I bet they are waiting to get the QR2 complete to finalize a CSW DD product. I use a drivehub to use my CSW 2.5 on PS5 and I feel like I am missing out on some functionality even though the basics are pretty much covered. Any thoughts on if a CSW DD will be released anytime soon or if I should just buy the PS compatible DD1 now? Well whenever they become available again here in the States that is...
@DriftR35 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered my 8nm w/ the load cell bundle last month and still waiting. I was too impatient so I got a G923 as a filler until April. The G923 isn’t bad with GT7 but we all know the GT DD Pro is a night and day difference we all need!
@AlbertoFortuny 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I'm absolutely loving GT7 and the implementation of the dualsense. It's awesome. And i have the Fanatec DD Pro. I play on the controller when is want to just chill on the couch. Just an FYI for your future recording of the game, turn off HDR on the PS5 so you don't record HDR footage and it looks washed out on KZfaq.
@AlbertoFortuny 2 жыл бұрын
@@rdb223 Yeah the resolution (4K) does not change, only HDR is turned off. It will be better for video capture and for the most amount of people to see the video normally. HDR is changing how the color gets reported to the screen from the source console or PC. It will look fine if you have an HDR display since it knows how to interpret that signal. But this breaks down when you capture that output and then upload it to KZfaq where you might not be watching the video on an HDR capable display. I believe there is a way to upload HDR video to KZfaq but it would still look washed out if you are viewing it on a non-HDR display.
@sebastianboruta2411 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you'll be reviewing GT7. Can't wait to hear how to compares to other sims.
@Mr.Waffullz 2 жыл бұрын
@Boosted Media where can I find that mount for the DD? Oh and if you see this, can your use the Universal Hub on the GT DD and play on Xbox as well? Keep up the great work on the content 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@michaelplant4351 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, that turbo sound! It looked as though you were using the stick, is that correct? I'm really enjoying the motion control before eventually upgrading to the wheel.
@michaelplant4351 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice for you to review the motion control in the future if you can.
@HanyHabibi97 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelplant4351 I always tell newcomers to use motion over analog as well, huge advantage and more in line with a wheel
@harrywilkie24 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never played a GT game before but the motion control makes the experience much closer to using a wheel, I love it
@HanyHabibi97 2 жыл бұрын
@@harrywilkie24 i’m glad you like it, it made me addicted to Sport
@richardcollins2254 2 жыл бұрын
What mounting brackets the red ones did you use to mount the base to the rig. Great video.
@lawyer4ever 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am playing GT7 on PS5 with the dual sense controller, but I also am playing the game on my PS4 Pro using my Accuforce direct drive wheel and HE pedals via the GIMX software. I have been surprised at how much I am enjoying GT7 with the dual sense, it provides so much more feedback than any other racing game I have played using a controller. Of course the Accuforce is much more immersive, but it is actually missing some feedback, for example vibration from curbs. Also, I find the graphics on PS4 Pro to be a significant step down, including FPS drops which break immersion. And the load times are much slower on PS4 Pro, on PS5 they are almost instantaneous, which is great.
@blaynestaleypro 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, GT7 support gyro steering with the Dual Sense. It has a bit of a learning curve but it's pretty good!
@steveb3944 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks. Same as you I haven’t played a GT game for years and absolutely loving this. You may have just saved me quite a lot of money as I have been debating a wheel for a while (and frame) but find it hard to justify the investment as I only game on PS5 now.
@MelloKingMal05 2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a good one for me! I want to get the wheel and pedal experience again since I haven't had one since GT2 was new 😭 thanks for this video it was very insightful. Looking at how this compares to the cheaper options is definitely what I'd want to know as the Fanatec setup is pretty pricey to start out with.
@SplyBox 2 жыл бұрын
Would love a comparison between all the different wheels on GT7
@TwoFoxGibbon 2 жыл бұрын
I'll find out tomorrow when my wheel gets delivered!!! Very excited.
@hichessam 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad that finally someone is evaluating the whole experience of playing with controllers, not just comparing times. I personally prefer a smooth experience over winning. I do enjoy using a wheel, but for me it's never that realistic, no matter how good it is. I do use the controller for ACC on ps5 along with g29. A good game should be optimized for both in my opinion.
@MM-oh3zs 2 жыл бұрын
G29 is not really a proper wheel, it is more a toy, rather than anything close to real wheel providing you with plenty of feedback both on base / wheel & pedals (fanatec DD / V3 pedals / any FF wheel). I had G29 and boy, that was a trash, just some random rumbling, while now I FEEEL the car as I would almost drive it myself. If you're into sim, then definitely buy a wheel (proper), also remember GT/Forza are not a real sim, they more simcades as they won't provide you with all the feedback as other sims and some simulations of physics is just not there.
@hpoonis2010 2 жыл бұрын
The ghost car thing: generally I find those things more than distracting as I think one tends to chase the car rather than follow the track. Try disabling that feature and see how you go.
@motchness 2 жыл бұрын
no way they help you improve big time
@MilhadSalihi 2 жыл бұрын
@@motchness They help you if you set them to be 0.2 - 0.3s ahead, but when I'm overlapping the ghost car it's really distracting for me too
@beezymccree2456 2 жыл бұрын
@@MilhadSalihi that’s how is should be done to begin with …
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
I always find it makes me faster. I can totally appreciate how some people might find it distracting though.
@sercanserj7804 2 жыл бұрын
If I do a license and I'm off gold by .4 seconds I just set ghost to .5 seconds ahead of me always works to get me faster
@chrisparry4461 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! PLEASE could you tell me how the ffb/physics on GT7 compare to something like ACC/AS2?
@user-ch2gn4ku9v 2 жыл бұрын
Try the duelsense motion controls. Curious how you do with your lap times in that mode.
@Justin-hd2vz 2 жыл бұрын
How do you switch to those in the game?
@yautjayarrington1732 2 жыл бұрын
G'day Will and team. I wonder if you might be able to do a tutorial on how to adjust the load cell pedal on the DD pro. I am a total Fanatec and pretty much a Sim racing noob. I get all my info from your reviews and posts.
@Lucas-ie2ti 2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video boosted! If i may ask , what's your take on GT7?.. I started GT2 when i was a little kid and loved it! I really enjoy GT7 it's definitely nastoolgic. Would you consider it a serious contender in the "sim racing" games? ...also, already pre-ordered the DD PRO, always wanted a fanatec but before the DD pro they were just too high in cost for my opinion, so super excited about it. I'm planning on using it on my GT7 as well as ACC and upcoming Forza on my PC set up. Would you recommend this wheel? :)
@kaomatollo 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Boosted Media, I noticed that you did not try the motion sense of the dual sense controller. I strongly recommend you try it out. I have be using the motion sense on the dual shock 4 and on my best laps I am within a second of top split times on GT Sport. The motion sense is far far smoother than the analog or D-Pad. Hope to see you review the motion sense in a video
@ChuckKolyvas 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was a bit shocked tbh. Please review the motion control-it's a bit of a game changer! Just like a Wiimote only super accurate.
@sandman7167 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched tons of your videos. I may have missed it but other than this setup. What would be best wheel and pedal setup for ps5. I know you review a lot of pc compatible equipment. If you’ve reviewed it, do you have a link to that video. Thanks.
@falkend1fox728 2 жыл бұрын
If you get some extra time with the wheel do you mind sharing what wheel setting you ended up with I know everyone is different but I feel your settings would be worthy of me trying or at least seeing if mine are anywhere close to what they need to be thanks. Also do you have a video about short travel vs long travel I have the V3 inverted and want them to feel as close to what a race car would feel like I have searched and searched and can’t find anything with the V3s. I would just go and grab the sprints but I play on console just as much if not more than I do on PC so unfortunately I have to stick with the V3s for now.
@jonelsorel Жыл бұрын
Hey man, thanks for this comparison! What is that red thing you use to fasten the DD Pro to the rig?
@distorken 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would like to know your assist settings. Thanks
@TheMballew 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see your opinion on using the accelerometer and steering the controller vs using the joystick
@motchness 2 жыл бұрын
for a newbie playing the game for the first time the dual sense would be amazing, i prefer the wheel of course but really appreciate the haptic feedback and triggers, everyone says the triggers are stiff, turn them to weak and its perfect
@Wiiillllson151 2 жыл бұрын
You got try the the motion steering with the controller it's surprisingly good.
@ewesey 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate great vid! What chair is that you've put onto the F-GT cockpit? Just noticed it's not the standard one that comes with it, and I'm thinking of picking one up but would certainly prefer a bucket-style seat.
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the standard NLR ES1 seat
@theinvisible11 Жыл бұрын
I have a Logitech G29 and am contemplating upgrading to a Fanatec DD Pro. It would be cool if you could do a wheel comparison specifically with GT7, in case there are any differences in software tuning.
@punker911a 9 ай бұрын
I just recently got my wheel after years of playing racing games and hands down, the immersion you feel from the wheel and pedals is incomparable. Definitely a must if you enjoy racing games,
@SteelLake Жыл бұрын
I was struggling with the controller at first finding it hard to get a smooth full turn but then I changed the settings to where you turn/tilt the controller like a wheel to steer and have found so much more success. Have you tried that? The controller is great, I’m new to ps and ps5 and love it, its so far ahead of xbox
@cryptojunkie5875 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been considering that exact same setup, rig and wheel/pedal combo. What are your thoughts on that package, for the same $ anything you change/swap in out? Could you also consider a video reviewing ACC for PS5. Great job
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
We did a review of the package a while back. Good for what it is overall. Can’t help but feel the FGT Elite is a touch on the expensive side though depending on where you live and cost of shipping. Downloaded PS5 version of ACC last week. Will do some content as soo bad we have time.
@Daniel_Scarano 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t into racing games before GT7. I decided to get a G29 with the game and now I’m addicted. The controller can’t compare to even a cheaper end wheel.
@AyrBear1988 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a long time gr player I have 1-7 and have used the controller, lap times are very inconsistent with controller, soon as track racer gets the tr120 instock I am switching to fanatec gt dd pro, thanks for this video nicely done
@motok1d 2 жыл бұрын
This game got me into simple racing. The ps5 and gt7 made perfect sense to. I got the g923 with the gt lite cockpit and I having a blast. Wouldn't be the same game with controller
@simonjohnade 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you. Do have a request for you though. Could you do a similar test with the ps5 controller but not using the sticks for steering. Rather use the in built gyro. I set my steering sensitivity to 7 and just wow... Would love to see your first reaction to it if you haven't already done an episode on it? Thanks again for the great content, cheers mate 👍
@makromann2008 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Will! Could you tell me what kind of Wheel mount you're using there on your Rig in this video? The red pieces especially? Thank you :)
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
The mounts that come with the FGT Elite
@TheEpyonz 2 жыл бұрын
When are you going to explore the force feedback vs other titles like mentioned? Do you have the boost kit? Need more info for those looking to use the same set up.
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
Yep we will go into more detail on all these things. We will get to it as soon as we can. Dealing with floods again at the moment.
@aonghusofaolain8686 2 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen so far giving me a sense of the game. It looks awesome
@Smartguy898 2 жыл бұрын
Should of looked at average lap times as well to compare the two. I think overall the wheel and pedals had a faster average and it is smoother and better inputs. As someone only using controller, I find it very difficult to string multiple fast laps together as your hands get more of a workout using a controller.
@banger566 2 жыл бұрын
The but kicker on the two T-GTs is a nice touch. It adds another level of feedback 😀
@exile3469 2 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@Cookie2k 2 жыл бұрын
Slight off topic but how comfortable is the NLR ES1 seat on your rig? I’ve got that rig on the way but not sure what seat to get! Any help appreciated. Ta.
@justinhutchins3335 Жыл бұрын
Dual sense feels different for each camera too. I’ve found running cockpit let’s you feel body roll more compared to an outside view
@rchatte100 2 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could see if can use pedals and wheel from diff companies in GT? I have a fanatec LC pedal set & thrustmaster wheel & base. I presume not but would like to know for sure. Thanks mate.
@mikesanders5433 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently purchased by first basic wheel setup for GT7. A Logitech G29 and GT Omega Stand. I played GT Sport using a controller and the first weekend same with GT7. Now after a few days using the wheel/peddles the difference is astonishing, and so much more immersive 🙂
@YorkshireBoy 2 жыл бұрын
how so bro?
@mikesanders5433 2 жыл бұрын
@@YorkshireBoy best au to describe it mate is the ability to better control the cars. Notably (for me at least) being able to modulate the steering and accelerator/brake input to a far more accurate and smoother application. I struggle on controller to be smooth with steering input (I tend to make lots of repeated jerky inputs into the steering and my accelerator/braking application is blunt and very on/off). With the wheel I’m smoother on the steering with much less input into adjustments and for the pedals I’m finally able to modulate the throttle and braking properly. For me it feels much more rewarding
@sharifali1129 2 жыл бұрын
Im am surprised with the immersion on brakes & acceleration on trigger button on DS5. Plus the vibration. Minus the steering feel which is we cant do anything on that lol. Does the loadcell feel the same with ds5? If yes im considering to buy steering.
@k31n3rd4 2 жыл бұрын
I started to play with the controller and the G923 switching back and forth, GT7 has the best controller implementation of any racing game yet, and I tried a couple on PS5 already, the pushback from the triggers is helping a ton in using just a portion of the gas or the break pedals. The additional haptic feedback in the controller itself helps a lot with “reading” the traction of the car as you literally feel if you are on the curb or about to slide.
@l555mat8 2 жыл бұрын
Controller may be faster or slower, it doesn’t matter. A wheel makes any driving game so much more immersive.
@kencee9213 2 жыл бұрын
Great video would like to see the budget logi and thrust master compared to controller. Like using a desk to play the game.
@KieranVella 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the full review, I don't think your capture process is getting the Tone mapping right for HDR/SDR. Might want to play with that. GT7 looks much more vibrant than that!
@darnoth772 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the controller because my dd pro hasn't come in yet and the controller is pretty sick. The force feedback in the triggers is pretty cool. Although it is harder to control you car.
@nateriver1005 2 жыл бұрын
Cool vid! I'm getting the slightly inferior Logitech G293 wheel setup to couple with the later PSVR 2 port. It's going to be awesome!
@DoomiePookie 2 жыл бұрын
So gt7 will be on psvr2??
@dirtyminerapparel 2 жыл бұрын
We are running Thrustmaster and I’m thinking it’s time to upgrade our dual sim units. These have been good but I want more realistic and a larger wheel. I know I can upgrade the wheel and I’ve already inverter the pedals on the metal chassis. Probably build something more serious soon.
@Cosharek 2 жыл бұрын
Racing cars dont have inverted pedals fyi
@smanzoli 2 жыл бұрын
How do you fell the force feedback? Are 5nm enough? Or should we get the 8nm upgrade?
@drog343 2 жыл бұрын
I can't drive with the ghost on, I find that it always pulls me into that lap's rhythm, I always tend to follow their line, etc. if it gets ahead of me.
@simonliu3905 2 жыл бұрын
A g29 review would be appreciated! I have a g29 and always wonder how much of a difference it would make upgrading to DD series. What I don’t like about g29 is the pedal being too shallow.
@K9IGHTRIDERINDIA 2 жыл бұрын
I have a g29 too and it feels great on ACC. GT series are simcade experience and u may not feel the feedbacks ur looking for on any wheel on gt games. they are what they are... not a simulator but a Simcade. u want to know how gt7 will feel on a g29 just try GT sports. u will be disappointed if u have ever played ACC , AC or dirt rally
@Saitam79 2 жыл бұрын
I also have a g29 and used it for gt7.. It doesn't feel as hard as PC2 .. and the feedback is not as strong as F1 2020/21.. but it is still a good experience.. I think the handling varies on the type of car you're driving and also the settings.. it's definitely worth playing with the wheel instead of the controller
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! It seems that your PS5 was probably in HDR mode and your screen capture hardware doesn't support it so you get greyish image as a result. You either have to disable the HDR mode in PS5 or fix the colors in post-production. Looking forward to hear experiences with cheaper wheels!
@felixisme 2 жыл бұрын
Nice catch!
@joshuacooper1332 2 жыл бұрын
One thing you missed out on is using the 6-axis feature where you use the controler like a wheel instead of using the stick. It is so much easier to be smooth with your steering inputs.
@JayM1989 2 жыл бұрын
I tried that and it's way too janky. Hell no.
@elbowsout6301 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was interesting to see these lap times with the loadcell pedals. I remember the video you made some time ago where you compared a logitech G29 with a DD wheel and load cell pedals and one of the takeaways from that video was that your lap times were far more consistent with the loadcell. I think most of your laps were within 0.4 seconds with loadcell. We didn't see that here though. I haven't bought GT7 yet but I'm sure I will eventually just really bummed there is no VR or triple screen support. Even GT4 on PS2 had triple screens. It would have been awesome if they let you run triple 1080p with this.
@CalculatedRiskAK 2 жыл бұрын
It's a tad harder to be consistent under braking on GT7 because ABS on weak is pretty much a requirement. Otherwise it's like braking on soap.
@julianr9873 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I notice that you have mounted your Fanatic DDP Pro wheel using side brackets instead of the usual bolt fixings underneath the unit. I have just ordered the Next Level F-GT cockpit and Fanatic DD pro wheel so would like to know what is the best way of attaching the wheel base to the cockpit. If side brackets are preferred where can I get them from?
@boostedmedia 2 жыл бұрын
On the F-GT it’s better to mount from the bottom :)
@rodp.1 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a wheel so I was surprised at how nice it felt using motion controls compared to the stick. I turned my sensitivity to -1, and I've made it through the first 20 cafe books
@defyingtheodds1987 Жыл бұрын
Usually when apply the break when coming into a corner, I’ve learn not to press it completely due to the force feedback reminding me that I do need to monitor the pressure. So sometimes I apply it half way and that’s enough for me to enter smoothly and press the throttle just a bit to coast through. I still want a wheel and pedals though lol
@-ksj- 2 жыл бұрын
Should I wait for newer models for wheels to come out? Are there any new products coming out soon, optimized for the ps5?
@qurondon902 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question about the dd pro. Is the base/wheel supposed to vibrate pretty hard when you understeer/oversteer? Whenever I’m racing and taking a corner it vibrates if I put a little too much steering angle or if the car isn’t able to turn anymore but I still try and turn it it vibrates. It’s noticeable when I do hairpins or 90 degree turns. I’m new to DD wheels so I have no idea.
@qurondon902 2 жыл бұрын
Are the vibrations simulating the tires not being able to catch grip which is causing the vibrations?
@bensoncharly4700 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids :)
@stephen3164 2 жыл бұрын
On your last lap with the wheel, you carried more speed through the turn at 24 second mark, and were able to stay ahead of your ghost car. Without that ghost car in front of you, your driving inputs seem to indicate you were looking further down the track at your entry, apex, and exit points. When you look further down the track, you drive smoother, with less corrections, which makes you slightly faster. I think the ghost car automatically shifts your mind in to multi-car driving situation where you are looking close to the car on the track for passing opportunities than when you have an open track ahead.
@TheWITE-FOX 2 жыл бұрын
He did the same. They make no difference
@IXcerberusXI 2 жыл бұрын
You should try with a controller again with motion steering, it's surprisingly efficient.
@pv1nny714 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot play with the joystick after using motion controls from GTSport. I completely agree.
@KingJuulForever 2 жыл бұрын
I really really like the feeling of the asphalt plates on tokyos city speedway idk the name (the tokyo city track) and that you feel all those bumps lol
@kurtburns2758 Жыл бұрын
Ive gotten DAMN GOOD with the Dualsense controller, the adaptive triggers really communicate a ton of information about what the car is doing. I will eventually have a sim rig when i have the space for one.
@gsalvatored 2 жыл бұрын
Did you setup the steering whell and pedals or you just used the standar comfiguration? Because the top speed was 3 or 4 miles faster whit the controller
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