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This is the most brilliant comparison I have seen of GT7 with any other more serious Simulators....Most people would just concentrate on which game is doing things more realistically and then give the final verdict but you actually explained what exactly both games are doing differently and why both are still great for what they are trying to offer

As a lifelong gran turismo fan, and someone who can’t really afford to get into more serious sim racing, I appreciate this comparison. It’s nice to know the techniques I’m developing in gt7 aren’t trash too. Your point about sportsman and driver rankings is one I share, I’ve had friends get into gt7 and tell me it’s trash because everyone is a noob, and I’ve tried to explain that, once you move up, the competition is quite good and much more respectful.

Great comparison and no one has done a review this detailed. Excited to see future GT7 content and streams

I recently just got iRacing after competing online in gt7. It made my iRacing experience a lot more enjoyable. IRacing felt like gt7 but with a much stronger connection to the car and the ability to predict oversteer and when brakes lock. It also feels as if u approach a corner iRacing u have a lot more ways to approach a corner fast, but in gran tourismo there’s only one optimal way to go through a corner fast

seeing the response in discord where people where shaming you for playing this was interesting, if only they trusted your decisions and weren't so touchy about what choices you make. Keep up the good work and keep making great content.

Great video. As a fair beginner in GT7, I want to improve and learn more but find there is a lot of 'snobbyness' around certain sims, especially from people who moved away from GT7 and now think it's somehow beneath them. I'm glad that you highlighted that you can improve and find good racing in any game.

Fantastic video Suellio! Great job of breaking down both GT7 & iRacing! Keep up the great work!

Great video mate! Happy to see your channel growing so quickly!

I'm a teacher (arts). You are an excellent teacher, with a comprehensive understanding of your subject, the ability to see the tiniest details but also have a great and fair-minded overview perspective, and the language to articulate your understanding that is easily digestible. I've been looking for someone online to give a comprehensive review of the difference in physics between real racing and sim/semi-sim (I play GT7), and you illuminated those differences so well that I believe I can imagine what it is actually like to race IRL much better than before. Well done, mate. I'm sure your students are very fortunate to have your guidance.

Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video👍🏼 Alway learning 😎

Thanks for the analysis. Very impressive stuff. As a GT7 offline campaign mode player on PSVR2, I find it very curious that pro sim players believe GT7 is less forgiving than in iracing and real life. You’d think it would be the opposite, as gt7 is commonly badged as being “arcadey” as opposed to the more puritan like simulators such as iracing and AC.

The thing between these two, in my opinion, is that iRacing offers top notch physics, while not dominating in terms of content or graphics. And what GT offers, is a good enough physics model, while having a large amount and variety of cars, from commuters, crazy concept cars, GT4,3,2,1 cars and so on. As well as it's beautiful graphics and a comprehensive weather system, and other features (photo mode, livery editor, etc). This is why I am sticking to GT, not to mention it's a one-time purchase for a title. Then again, I'm just a casual driver (B driver rating in GT), and iRacing wouldn't be very suitable for me. No hate on iRacing though, it's equally good on some aspects ! 😅

i got gt7 for ps5 and i had no clue about the simracing community. started racing online and within a 3 months i had a t300 and loadcells and had gotten gold in all of the licenses. good thing i already had a gaming pc or else this hobby would’ve put me into debt because now a little less than a year later, I have a full simagic/heusinkveld/next level racing setup😆 point is: I would’ve never gotten into sim racing or cars in general if not for GT. it was simultaneously the worst and best purchase ive made LOL

Thank you! One of the best comparisons. Moreover the new update is covered. Awesome!

Easily the best video I’ve watched comparing the 2 games!

Easily the best video talking about both games and RL perspective as well. Great video.

It's interesting that the big physics issue he pointed out is what was directly addressed in the recent update. It feels far better now.

Finally, an in-depth critique and synopsis with somebody who truly understands what they're talking about.

A very good write up and totally agree about the big change in trail breaking grip feel through the Logitech G Pro Wheel. I’ve only been driving a month since VR2 launched but turn in trail breaking grip felt too strong and before 1.31 but I hit apexes more regularly now. I’m loving GT7 and only a B SR driver but the level of respect is high even at this grade I feel.

Nice and educated review - not very opinionated and entertainment-focused... purely focused on giving an objective and realistic review, and that on its own is entertainment for such video types(reviews) Good job!

Problem I have with IRacing is you have a monthly payment. Even if you spend some money in GT7 It is probably cheaper. VR2 has made screens obsolete for me. It is unbelievable. it’s like you are inside every car.

Exactly the video I’ve been looking for. Thank you.

Sick video! Grew up with gran tourismo n got into race games because of it, sadly tho i had no idea of the gaming world before recent years, in my 30's now n its prob too late for me to get heavy into sim racing, plus wouldnt even know where to begin, no pc doesnt help, keep living the dream!

Great video! Love this channel

Love your video. Would you mind sharing your GT7 steering settings? I have a Fanatec but I could use your Logitech numbers for reference.

That was very brilliant! Could you do another one of these videos except with two oval simcade games NASCAR Heat 5 vs. World of Outlaws: Dirt Racing? Or two actual sim racing titles Automobilista vs. Assetto Corsa? It's actually neat watching these videos. Just now subscribed, hope to learn more from the best!

Well made video very enjoyable and interesting.. well done 👍👍

Thank you for the video first and foremost. Secondly, would you mind making a video for your steering wheel settings for GT7? I'm looking to purchase the same setup (Logitech Pro) and for cockpit the Trophy G. Would also love to know if you are ever on Nürburgring for public meetup on GT7, it's been fun driving on there for stress release. Would be nice to race alongside you, even just to learn better line, braking techniques from a chase. You've been incredibly helpful for my racing development and appreciate all your hard work and efforts. When I get my wheel I would love to see if you have coaching bandwidth available to take on another student, cheers!

One thing to note, the higher rank you are in GT, the less ghosting there is. So if you were in B or A DR and S SR, there will be no ghosting unless a penalty is applied. I'm also interested in the braking techniques because it seems GT7 and ACC match while iRacing takes a completely different approach.

When it comes to arcade with a feeling and a sensation I think Drive Club still holds its ground even today. It is a shame we never ever got a Drive Club 2. What makes Drive Club great is that it was road cars on roads ... amazing visuals and one of the best interiors up to date. Super and Hyper class were a bit too arcade , but the sweetspot was the Performance and Sports class.

What settings do you recommend for the Logitech Pro with GT7? I love the Trueforce around 35 although the wife is less keen at 1am lol

Great detailed review. Wow! In 2017 I bought a 718 Cayman S and started tracking about 6 times a year. Same time also got thrustmaster GT 300RS and tried all at the same time. IRacing, GTSPORT, assetto corsa. Purpose was to have fun and improve my track skills. IRACING just felt more complicated than I cared for and surprisingly preferred the driving physics of GT. Even the bumps on Nurburgring felt more realistic. Assetto Corsa car control felt weird and overly dramatic when loosing control. Makes me wonder if all this depends on the steering brand. Anyway, returned my PC and stayed with GT but makes me wonder how things have changed since. Today my fanatec DD PRO arrives and can’t wait to see how much better it is. But also makes me wonder again about sim racing :)

I have tried almost every simulator out there, and my favorite racing game nowadays is GT7. The level of detail in the game and the PSVR2 give it an incredible immersion. A lot of people get hung up on what’s the best simulator, many say iracing is the best. Here is my problem, I’m a regular guy that doesn’t have access to racing cars, I just drive normal cars and I occasionally go to track days. For that reason GT7 is a better simulator for me as it has normal street cars, which you can’t find in iracing. You can certainly find real life physics in GT7, and things that I have learned in the game I have been able to apply IRL. If your goal is to become a race car driver and you are fortunate enough that this can be a realistic dream in your life, iracing should be your best bet. If you’re a regular guy wanting to improve his driving skills, GT7 is an excellent option.

Looking forward to the VR comparison :)

Hi @SuelioAlmeida, when will you be creating the video to compare VR vs Monitors?? Interested on that, I just tried searching for it in your channel , and cannot see it. Loving so far your course.

Do you have a video on getting the wheel dialed in? I just got the vr2 and logi pro setup. I've got some real-life driving experience but new to sim. Building a PC, but the PS5 was easier to get online quickly. Great video!

GT7 telemetry is available through UDP ports, software and mobile apps are also available. Perhaps you could use this to your advantage going forward.

You are very eloquent and know how to transmit your message in a very clear and entertaining way. Big props to you. Would love for you to check out and give us you feedback on AMS2 1.5. It likes a slidey driving that is nothing like iRacing

Will your Motor Racing Check List course be discounted like the black Friday deal any time soon?

Wow. Amazing video man.

Im slowly getting into Time Attack irl, and I came from iRacing background. I have gotta say, with the habits that I developed from iRacing really helped me on track driving. IRL, you can tell a lot quicker with the grip level from your vehicle than iRacing.

Great analysis and comparison of the two platforms. I have been interested in iracing but the cost is concerning.

Hey, just noticed you were racing in Trois-Rivières, Quebec. Are you gonna go back there this year ?

Nice video. Have you done any reviews of ACC?

Good video, I would like you to make one analyzing AMS2, my favorite simulator, to compare it with others....

I liked the video. For $70, GT7 is in a damn league of it's own. All tracks and cars are added to the game for free. Free VR support, rain and day/night time transitions. iRacing obviously wins the "sim" genre, where as GT7 blurs the line between Sim and Arcade. For a fraction of the cost and the ability to race with a Gamepad or Wheel makes GT7 a damn hard contender. Keep up the videos, you got a sub.

Great review. Can u also review ps vr2 also. Many thanks

90.1k subs keep it up btw new subscriber here 😁

Since on gt7 its easy to go from understeer to abrupt oversteer, would it be possible to use a harder or the hardest compound tire available (due to the wheel's softer cornering stiffness) to be practice being in the neutral steer state for longer?

The trail braking part really is the main problem I have since I started in online simracing with my G29 even I don't know how to apply well or I release too early the brakes and trying to make an early corner entry more with these physics on GT7. Really I wish to learn to apply well that tecnique and try to get used.

I started sim racing back when GT was new on the PS1. Made me a better driver as an adult. Fisherman's ranch is GT7's sueto-Nurburgring dirt track. Hard to master. Even harder in cockpit cam for VR. I was doing the circuit experience and something just clicked about using the audio to track shift points instead of using the tack or the HUD. Days landing 3.11. Now I'm comfortable in the 3.7 range.

Your method of explanation alongside your demonstration while concentrating solely on the individual point you mean to communicate at that particular moment is no less than at an Absolute Genius level my friend!! 👏👏👏 Thank You for that...and thank you for not feeling the need to expect or even demand the sudent to catch up then keep up and learn at the level you set rather than simply having the patience to "play to your audience " or " _Drive what the car/tires like & can handle_ " Stay Safe Be Well ✅Liked ✌ ✅Subbed

It is absolutely wild to me that it is possible today to be drafted for a real race car, if you are a really good sim racer. It makes sense, but... The possibility is astonishing, look 10 years back you could forget about that. I am really happy for you guys having that option!

I’m just ordered the vr2. I HOPE it is all I want. Because of that I ordered the wheel and stand too (had an Xbox version but not the biggest fan of fh5 right now).

The quick in-and-out of laps on GT7 makes it the winner for me. I've played tons of ACC and other sims on PC, and it just takes way too long to get something good going online. Too much tweaking, organizing, and stuff like that. GT7 is plug-n-play and it takes seconds to get into a good race.

Thanks for the comparison as i would like to try out iracing, comming from years of PlayStation and the new GT7 in VR2 !!! Thanks again Cheers!!!

Yep. This video just earned you a subscription. I will be watching closely here, time permitting.

Excellent comparison, would like a Project Cars 2 comparison

Would you recommend a force feedback/sensitivity for GT7? I'm using Fanatec DD PRO 8NM...

The force feedback on gran turismo you have to change the settings ( feedback sensitivity and feedback torque)

Good comparison! With the onset of PSVR2 GT7 has never been better. In fact, PSVR2 is so good I will never race again without it.

Great comparison! 👍 As a long-term PlayStation user, I will always favour Gran Turismo games as they are much more accessible. While I've never raced in a real race car, I often drive a domestic road car and van and find that playing GT has improved my real-life wheel and pedal inputs, even though the game physics are not true to real life. Play whichever game suits you best and enjoy the drive my friends!

i couldnt find any video of yours on assettto corsa what do you think about it? if i learn how to drift on assetto can i use what i learn there in real life?

The understeer is a deal breaker for me. Been there since GT3. I do not recall GT2 feeling like that. I honestly cannot enjoy the game because of this. But as always have been saying for years, what you gain and learn from all these games can be applied to real life or any other game because at the very minimum they all work on the same basis. Even on a controller, you learn what a line is, a turning point, a breaking point, what oversteer and understeer is, even if you do not have the proper application of it due to controller it has a lot of information there you can learn from and if even on a controller it is adding to you then I would say ALL these experiences definitely add to your skill overall. Simple idea is don't do on the road what you would do on the track. Either keep it on the track or in sim racing or simcade or whatever (once upon a time GT was simply considered a sim racer but anyway, its all the same just different levels imo). But what your every day driving adds is the understanding more of what is happening. Even aiming to drive safely for yourself and others around you, these concepts make you a better safe driver too. And perhaps some day may help in a situation that is forced on you as well. But yeah in terms of preferences, from the now simcade front FM was always more to my steering liking, but tbh I phased out of FM too for many years. Was absent from racing games for quite some time, and recently picked up AC. So much fun and so happy I did. And the steering is just how I want it. So seeing GT7 is STILL on the low end really turns me off. I couldn't stand it back in the day and still can't stand it now. Feels like I am forcing myself to drive in a certain way whereas even FM felt like I could adapt more realistically to a track. GT is much more as you say, focused on the line of a turn. This also teaches you a lot, but after you learn the line of a turn, there is so much more and that is the level I am at even for gaming for a long time now. So not having that level of control is a deal breaker to the point of not making the game playable, so I don't bother at all at that point. And seeing as we have so many other options now, well, I feel there is even less a reason to play GT7, much less the new FM.

Good read on both

Hey, i have logitech g prp aswell, can you tell me your settings so i can copy them and try from there?

I've played also most of the Gran Turismo titles and honestly when I saw the Super Speed Ring and Daytona I just screamed in happiness. Motorsports was, and now is again, a major part of my life

With PSVR2..GT7 literally shits on the other sims It's now compatible with 120fps...graphics are still by far the best. And you have normal road cars. Oh and the lobbies are actually populated. Lot more content. It's a no brainer at this point.

Loved this comparison! The snap oversteer in GT is real haha, and the only thing I don't like about that game. It makes reckless driving really hard and less rewarding. It's especially twitchy with the lightweight cars I love the most. The neutral steer issue got me thinking, too. I certainly did that regularly in a real car, and have a hell of a time pulling it off in GT, it just doesn't "click" for me. I mean I might be picking the wrong cars for that, or just lack the "resolution" in my thumbs (playing with the controller), idk. But this narrower margin of error does explain a lot! Overall though, I do love GT7 and the fact that it plays so wonderfully well without assists on a controller, you can just sit down every morning with a coffee, run a quick lap or two and get on with your day. That is hard to beat, and I feel that that's a strong selling point for people who are car enthusiasts, but not sim enthusiasts (let's be honest, sim racing got waay to serious for the most of us).

Really good video, you've more than earned my subscription. 👍

Great video, definitely will have to re-watch to understand it all. Great technical insights.

This is very interesting video. But I wonder, have you tried the game after a new update (that changed the physics), or before? Edit: Nevermind, just watched the whole video.

which one of Assetto Corsa, Automobilista & iRacing have overwhelming long career mode with diverse cars similar to GT 7 on PC? because im not into online racing. 1822

Nice comparison, whats the top age for a try en real racing? Im 42 😅 and im still learning a lot of this, i use psvr 2 gran turismo 7, asetto corsa ps5 and pc.

is iracing good using a dualsense ? i wish to try but im afraid to try using a dualsense so i have to wait till i get a steering wheel

Such a fire vid!! Instant sub 🥵

great video... but the music choice was a bit distracting, especially on the second half

I definitely feel the new update has made Gran Turismo a lot more realistic with the abs at least before u could really turn and dive into corners while on the brakes still where now u just go strait on lol

As a bike racer, I don't need perfect car physics, I need immersion and close racing to keep me sharp. GT7 VR excels at this, it feels so real. Just did a 45min 'ring race at night in wet conditions I was literally sweating. Unbelievable.

I like both tbh, ACC is a blast but it's also fun to collect and customize cars and not be super serious

I really enjoyed gt7 coming from only playing assetto corsa, but noticed the same thing with the cars not sliding and then suddenly your spinning out with almost no chance to correct like you would be able to on something like assetto or iracing

Really nice video and really good comparison of the two But i dont see any benefit in playing on 120fps to 60fps i tried it and for me there is no difference

Ive spend large amount of time on both GT and iRacing and both are by far the best in the business when it comes to competitive multiplayer.

GT7 with the G29 wheel in VR2 is fire, but it will spin you in the wrong direction in many circumstances that can def feel arcade-ish. IE: Sometimes I'll just approach a turn, bump the outside wall at 10 mph, and the car does a 180 and I'll lose 5-8 seconds😂. Sometimes as you come back on the track, you'll find you will go perpendicular right across the track to the opposite side of the same turn before you can steer normally again. There are times you can tell the game is attempting to keep you off balance (usually when your approaching 4th 3rd 2nd & 1st) So as you try to gain a position, you'll find the brakes don't work quit as good, or the accelerator will lag coming out of turns, or steering becomes marginally exaggerated. Interestingly, I have performed my best with the steering sensitivity turned ALL the way down to -2.

Excellent video, I'm a Gran Turismo Pro Player, and I agree with everything you said 👍👍👍

I've been having problems with my g920 and it's not letting me change the degree of steering I'm on Xbox to

With the cost of living in my community. It's very difficult to compete in such great events. 1 meal will probably cost a little over 200 for family of 8. 1 meal, like breakfast, 2nd meal another 200.

As a person who can't afford a PC it feels nice to have gran turismo on ps4

I will practice more😊👍

This is what we must see nowadays. Someone just has a channel, gives his own OPINIONS about varied subjects and then voila!!! They entitled themselves Coaches! Good God!

Great video by GT Academy already proves it in 2012

Thank you

Wondering if you plan on going for Olympics, they will have GT7 as an esport

I've always enjoyed Gran Turismo since gt2. I also like the convenience of its format. The only thing that has ever bothered me is something that I call the physics inversion penalty. When you hit or glance a barrier and hit the throttle the car automatically turns in the opposite direction (or turns into the wall). As if to train you from trying to use the wall to your advantage. I get why you want to do it is to stop the cheaters, but you are also punishing the admirable players or the people that play honorably and don't want to be penalized when the touch the wall. They just want to correct their mistake and get back on track. I just wish that they'ed change the programming and at least allow you to turn it off. You know for those that just want the most realistic physics feeling even when you're making mistakes.

Wreckfest solves the driver safety rating with crash dynamics that are more sim than all of the Super Mario Cart sims

I went from F1 2018 to buying a G29 to F1 21 which I felt was way too stiff and disappointing to AMS2, rfactor2 and mostly, ACC. I'm sadly behind 5-10secs behind the top drivers lol after over 300 hours of sim-racing experience...I just don't get it.

I do mainly iRacing but I do own GT7 and even Forza (it is terrible though). I play them both because they are fun and relaxing but still gets to feed my love for cars. They are also a memory of childhood and something I can enjoy with my son.. I do use a controller on GT7 though because my wheel isnt compatible and I enjoy these more as a relaxing experience.

GT7 is one of my favorite games. I keep trying to replace it with an F1 game but can’t so I just keep going back to it.

What about over under steer in gt7 now?