Grand Ayatollah Secretly Disbelieves in 12th Imam | Ahmad al-Katib

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Sunnah Discourse

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3 жыл бұрын

In this video ex-Shia scholar, Ahmad al-Katib explains how multiple respected Shia scholars have avoided responding to his published work on the supposed birth of the twelfth Imam, and theorises that one grand Ayatollah even disbelieved in the figure of the twelfth imam completely.
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@SunnahDiscourse
@SunnahDiscourse 3 жыл бұрын
If you appreciate the work we do, please consider donating to our GoFundMe campaign: www.gofundme.com/f/support-quotthe-sunni-defensequot-channel *Correction to subtitles: 21:38 it should say "a beginner" instead of "an innovator".
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 3 жыл бұрын
there are 3 main waves of deception in shiasm i know of. - ibn saba the neo pauline preacher said Ali is a god and pushed civil wars like paul did, then Hasan united them. Ali burned the she'a who said he's god too! 2nd wave when the shias who did taqiyah and weren't burned for shirk by Ali invited Hoosain, shias worship hossain who married a princess from magian areas as a front to continue magian royal worship! 3rd wave, lies on rest of ahlul bait in particularly Jafer Sadiq who said Abu Bakr gave birth 2 me twice, had a daughter named Aisha, until the 12 imam who matches the dajjal. >>> Abu Ja’far, the 5th Shia Imam said: Abdullah Ibn Saba used to claim being a prophet and claimed that The commander of believers (i.e. Ali) is God. Allah is Higher than such claim. This news reached to The commander of believers (i.e. Ali), so he called him and questioned him. But he repeated his claims and said: "You are Him (i.e. God), and it has been revealed to me that you are God and I am a prophet." So the commander of believers (i.e. Ali) said: "How dare you! Satan has made a mockery of you. Repent for what you said. May your mother weep at your death! Quit [your claim]." But he refused, so Ali imprisoned him and asked him three times to repent, but he didn’t. Thus he burnt him (i.e. his corpse after killing him[24] ) with fire and said: "Satan had taken him into his whim, he used to come to him and to induce these (thoughts) in him”. - Rijal al-Khashshi, V.1, P.323 Some knowledgeable people have stated that Abdullah bin Saba was a J*w who had accepted Islam and showed great devotion for Ali (peace be upon him). As a J*w, he used to exaggerate the personality of Joshua, the son of Nun, the Wasi of Moses. After becoming a Muslim, he began to say about the personality of Ali such this(peace be upon him) after the demise of Rasulullah (peace be upon him and his progeny), and he was the first person who manifested the saying of obligation of believing in the Imamate of Ali, and completely dissociated himself from his enemies and he openly opposed them and denounced them as infidels. So, it is in this light that those there were against the Shias said: The origins of Shi'ism and Rafdh are taken from J*d*ism. - Rijal al-Kashi, page.71 >>> If she'a followed Quran they would be Sunni, Quran 25 :74 mentioned make us husbands imama - and Umar married Ali's daughter so imama in Quran is Sunni Caliphas, game over!!! Umar who defeated the magian empire is Quran's imama and should be the she'a "imama"! but shiasm isn't about Quran, its about taqiyah for their magian empire who (along with byzantines) aided the riddah wars beaten by Abu Bakr justifying Umar topping the magians (& byzantines) themselves! - This is symbolized Abu Bakr and Umar's Conquest of Magians and Byzantines from 2 buckets of water unified in one conquered by the umma in the hadith acc. to ibn Hajr & Shafaa: Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whilst I was standing by a well, drawing water from it, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar came. Abu Bakr took the bucket and drew one or two buckets, but there was some weakness in his drawing. May Allah forgive him. Then ‘Umar bin Al-Khattaab came and the bucket turned into a very large one in his hands. I had never seen such a mighty person as he in doing such hard work till all the people drank to their satisfaction and watered their camels that knelt down there.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3676). Quran exposes rafidi shias as disbelievers per Quran 48 :29 history of she'a lies and betrayals to Islam like that of Hossain... - when she'as stole the kaba sharif, aided crusaders, aided monguls, safawids betrayed Uthmanis, cia backing iran in 79 to be israelis hidden ally until today etc... >>>
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543
@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 3 жыл бұрын
also Qayraish asked Prophet peace & blessings on him for a tribal Qayraish Islam, & remove the poor who joined Islam or give exclusivity, this is rejected. shiasm is rejected! I need to find hadith, I think its linked to these verses! Quran 6 : 52 - And turn not away those who invoke their Lord, morning and afternoon seeking His Face. You are accountable for them in nothing, and they are accountable for you in nothing, that you may turn them away, and thus become of the Zalimun (unjust). 53. Thus We have tried some of them with others, that they might say: "Is it these (poor believers) whom Allah has favoured from amongst us?" Does not Allah know best those who are grateful? Quran 18 : 28 - And keep yourself (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) patiently with those who call on their Lord morning and afternoon, seeking His Face; and let not your eyes overlook them, desiring the pomp and glitter of the life of the world; and obey not him whose heart We have made heedless of Our Remembrance, and who follows his own lusts, and whose affair (deeds) has been lost.
@courierton9217
@courierton9217 2 жыл бұрын
The hadis regarding the Turks: Muslim scholar Abd al Zazzaq transmitted from Qatada that "Yajuj and Majuj consist of 22 tribes. Dhulkarnine built a wall, holding back 21 of them. One tribe had got out on a raid and remained outside the wall. They are called Turks because they were left (Turikat) outside the wall" (Musannaf Abd al Zazzaq) Abd al Zazzaq reports that some of the tribes who were with Yajuj and Majuj left them at the last moment.
@eriKhaled
@eriKhaled 3 жыл бұрын
The Safavids were really cruel in that there were many Shi'a rulers that ruled over Sunnis before them. But most of them never cared about forcibly converting their subjects. The Fatimids in Egypt were more concerned about Arabisation of Egypt than making it Shi'a. The buyids of Iran also never forcibly converted their people. The Idea of a hidden Imam was politically attractive to them, that's why they chose it as a state madhab. Or if you look at Sunni rulers like the Ottomans who ruled over a religiously and ethnically diverse society never really forced their madhab on others. I actually believe that the Ottomans should've done more to convert the South lebenese Twelver Shi'a and Nusari Shi'a of Syria. Only because of future ramifications! The Safavids also imported 1500 Shi'a from South Lebanon because Twelver Shi'asm was so scarce in Iran. Even the Mughals in India who ruled over millions of Hindus never really bothered with converting those cow worshippers. My point is that the Safavids were cruel in that they physically changed their people!
@madaxwayne
@madaxwayne 3 жыл бұрын
@MADNUB but why would the ottomans genocide the sunnis werent they sunnis as well
@turan_kaya
@turan_kaya 3 жыл бұрын
@MADNUB you clearly lying or exaggerating. Can you give us the year and names of incident where millions of arabs were genocidaly killed by the ottomans?
@dr.mmaudi8194
@dr.mmaudi8194 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Nadir Shah, he almost returned Iran to sunna
@turan_kaya
@turan_kaya 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.mmaudi8194 and don't forget İsmail II Shah. He was probably a sunni
@turan_kaya
@turan_kaya 3 жыл бұрын
@MADNUB All you mentioned were part of the campaign against the Saud uprising. Which in someway started with the "genocidal" killing of almost all of the 2-5000 inhabitants of Karbala. I use the therm genocidal only because you used it before for far less victims. Your cherry picking the death tolls to corroborate your position against the ottomans. I read there were atrocities made by the ottomans and also by the Saud.
@Fadedfrost1
@Fadedfrost1 3 жыл бұрын
Never clicked this fast
@fountainofspeech1379
@fountainofspeech1379 3 жыл бұрын
May Allah preserve you guys and the viewers
@understandislamseries7386
@understandislamseries7386 3 жыл бұрын
Would InshaAllah watch it tomorrow, it's late night. Allah willing, i would watch it.
@understandislamseries7386
@understandislamseries7386 3 жыл бұрын
Watched it ✅ ☝🏼
@zahraaal-hasani1102
@zahraaal-hasani1102 3 жыл бұрын
😉: Ex-Shias vs Ex-Sunnis
@islamvsatheistsfeminists9371
@islamvsatheistsfeminists9371 3 жыл бұрын
Jazak Allahu khayr
@abdulkarim5176
@abdulkarim5176 3 жыл бұрын
In relation to the birth of Imam Mahdi it seems to have been taken from the stories of the Gods of ancient Greece, the Greek god Dionysus is saved by Zeus as a fetus, Zeus sewed the fetus inside himself and gave birth through his leg when the time came.
@zahraaal-hasani1102
@zahraaal-hasani1102 3 жыл бұрын
😉: Ex-Shias vs Ex-Sunnis
@abdulkarim5176
@abdulkarim5176 3 жыл бұрын
@@zahraaal-hasani1102 ???????
@shafqatishan437
@shafqatishan437 2 жыл бұрын
That's false story. I read multiple versions of greek mythology, and this story is completely incorrect.
@DarwinBinAhmad
@DarwinBinAhmad 3 жыл бұрын
1st liker from philippines
@ily5872
@ily5872 3 жыл бұрын
I really like these videos
@SnowLeopard-lt1vf
@SnowLeopard-lt1vf 3 жыл бұрын
Salaam Alaykum wa rahmat Allah
@seekfactsnotfiction9056
@seekfactsnotfiction9056 3 жыл бұрын
_If the Ummah knew how important it is for us to support, subscribe, like and share the content of this channel (and similar channels) to spread Truth and create more awareness in our own communities of Sunnis before Rafidis! Majority of Muslims today are sleeping in coma, they don't know the danger of this cult crippling the Ummah in all walks of life! Had they knew it... they would not sleep, instead they would be sharing 24/7 to bring awareness to the gullible masses_ *ولكن لا حياة لمن تنادى*
@harriskhan7671
@harriskhan7671 3 жыл бұрын
yes brother I understand your point and see some sunnies walking into rafdi traps jazakAllahhukhair .
@micoberss5579
@micoberss5579 3 жыл бұрын
ماشاءالله تبارك الله
@sword-master
@sword-master 3 жыл бұрын
The description by the shirazi turben head of the mahdi is straight out of the Marvel universe
@falcongulf5470
@falcongulf5470 3 жыл бұрын
I'v never been to cinema long time ago alhamdulillah , but when I heard the story of mahdi birth , it was really too much 😂 , I'm wondering why still we haven't this character on movies . Very weird still not existed, except in the imagination of shias .
@zahraaal-hasani1102
@zahraaal-hasani1102 3 жыл бұрын
😉: Ex-Shias vs Ex-Sunnis
@muhammadmalik2449
@muhammadmalik2449 3 жыл бұрын
Moreover, it is a very important topic for all shades of Muslims ; therefore, I request that a written version should be made available on the KZfaq.
@saadaziz6011
@saadaziz6011 3 жыл бұрын
where is previous video on this channel name as did imams preach imamah.
@seanshui5909
@seanshui5909 Жыл бұрын
Allahuma salli'ala Muhammad wa'alli Muhammad
@mohammadaltiwainy3981
@mohammadaltiwainy3981 3 жыл бұрын
Salam, so I’ve asked for favors here before and I would like to ask for evidence of how the prophet(S) prayed sadl. Shias claim umar did bid’ah as it was originally qabd. I’m trying to convince my parents sunni Islam is the truth it’s really hard right now if there’s just any help or advice. Jazak allah khair.
@inshalrauf9667
@inshalrauf9667 3 жыл бұрын
If you elaborate the question further إن شاء الله I'll be able to help. Just tell me what specifically do you need
@ahasansheikh8003
@ahasansheikh8003 3 жыл бұрын
Assalamu Alaikum, plz upload some new videos of Farid and buNoor
@ishrakmohammad7307
@ishrakmohammad7307 3 жыл бұрын
Farid does not work in this channel in present.
@zahraaal-hasani1102
@zahraaal-hasani1102 3 жыл бұрын
😉: Ex-Shias vs Ex-Sunnis
@thecpt6265
@thecpt6265 3 жыл бұрын
tfw shia try to be logical and prove anything at all about their faith is true
@j.lforever3622
@j.lforever3622 2 жыл бұрын
سبحان الله
@authentichadiths5979
@authentichadiths5979 3 жыл бұрын
I invite you all to listen to Hadith narrations
@Shah_hssn
@Shah_hssn 3 жыл бұрын
Why is his previous video not playing
@SunnahDiscourse
@SunnahDiscourse 3 жыл бұрын
There was a mistake in the subtitles. We are working on fixing it and will re upload when ready.
@Shah_hssn
@Shah_hssn 3 жыл бұрын
@@SunnahDiscourse JazakAllah
@muhammadmalik2449
@muhammadmalik2449 3 жыл бұрын
What a physical labor to read the English and I hope that I am not asking for too much, but it should have been dubbed in english which would have made it so convenient for me and many others , the non Arabs and so many man hours saved. I abandoned it at 7 minutes.
@SunnahDiscourse
@SunnahDiscourse 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea, although we do not have the time to do it. Our work on the channel is voluntary in our free time. You have the English subtitles, please go ahead and dub it and send it to us at twelvershia.net@gmail.com.
@al-atheemservant6609
@al-atheemservant6609 3 жыл бұрын
Learn arabic atleast try to understand it. U r muslim cmon man
@zahraaal-hasani1102
@zahraaal-hasani1102 3 жыл бұрын
😉: Ex-Shias vs Ex-Sunnis
@7asan_r
@7asan_r 3 жыл бұрын
@@zahraaal-hasani1102 please stop spamming everywhere.
@7asan_r
@7asan_r 3 жыл бұрын
@@al-atheemservant6609 my friend islam is not an arabic religion. It is for all.
@almukhlabi
@almukhlabi 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know where I can buy the book?
@fatemaafrozza4346
@fatemaafrozza4346 3 жыл бұрын
Well..iran not good but why u do not make video about soudi western puppent Royal family !
@snysworld
@snysworld 3 жыл бұрын
Islam teaches us not to curse muslim rulers. The only way to advise a ruler is taking him by his hand and advising him.
@bashar4550
@bashar4550 3 жыл бұрын
@@snysworld cmon.
@saifaladwan9321
@saifaladwan9321 3 жыл бұрын
They talk mostly about religion not politics, and when they only talk about politics when it’s connected to religion.
@fatemaafrozza4346
@fatemaafrozza4346 3 жыл бұрын
@JayRedRum I am sunni from Bangladesh but respect Iran
@fatemaafrozza4346
@fatemaafrozza4346 3 жыл бұрын
@Sabir I am sunni. not shia but western puppet Salman is real Khawaeijs
@falcongulf5470
@falcongulf5470 3 жыл бұрын
Did Ahmed al Kateb became Muslim ?
@samy7013
@samy7013 2 жыл бұрын
Al7amdulillah, Ahmad al-Katib left Twelver Imamism since the 1990s.
@syedahmedshaheer117
@syedahmedshaheer117 3 жыл бұрын
is he a sunni now?
@jawad15
@jawad15 3 жыл бұрын
No, he’s still an ignorant heretic but at the same time he tries to be a free thinker
@sunnianonymous4416
@sunnianonymous4416 3 жыл бұрын
@@jawad15 هلا فيك يا حبيبي كيمو من قروب احفاد الصحابة❤
@almukhlabi
@almukhlabi 3 жыл бұрын
@@jawad15 really? :/ that sucks
@jawad15
@jawad15 3 жыл бұрын
@@sunnianonymous4416 حياك الله حبيبي الغالي الله يحفظك
@defenderofdecency7218
@defenderofdecency7218 2 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as Shia and/or Sunni. There is Muslim and Non-Muslim.
@achraf9946
@achraf9946 3 жыл бұрын
How misguided you need to be to be from this sect subhanallah.
@abuabbas3695
@abuabbas3695 3 жыл бұрын
This is nothing compared to Hadith rejectors. Atleast Shia believe in the concept of Bidah even tho they practice Bidah.. For Hadith rejectors, it is free real estate
@achraf9946
@achraf9946 3 жыл бұрын
@@abuabbas3695 but how they follow a3tiu lah wa a3tihu rasur obey allah swt and obey the messenger of allah swt. how you want to follow the messenger without the authentic sunnah?
@zahraaal-hasani1102
@zahraaal-hasani1102 3 жыл бұрын
😉: Ex-Shias vs Ex-Sunnis
@ahmedw5
@ahmedw5 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha brutal
@Atheneon
@Atheneon 3 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁😆😆😆😅😅😅😅
@fatimaabbas9001
@fatimaabbas9001 3 жыл бұрын
Labbaik Ya Mahdi (asws) 🙌 I don't care whether he vanished or he is not yet born. But I know he is going to Arrive soon. Because Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.s) told that He is going to arrive before day of judgement....
@muhammadmalik2449
@muhammadmalik2449 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, yet I worry about the fact that ahadeeth can be manufactured in a factory of the liars whoever they may be.
@sunnianonymous4416
@sunnianonymous4416 3 жыл бұрын
Yes..we as sunnies we have correct narrations about it But I CAN'T say the same thing about the Mahdi of the Shiites
@abuabbas3695
@abuabbas3695 3 жыл бұрын
Did Nuh have 12 Imams? Did Musa have 12 Imams? He had 12 tribe leaders, all of them were sinners. All of Bnai Isreal rejected Musa's call to Jihad, remember? Did Ibrahim have 12 Imams? What is this concept that is from the principles of the religion that is not found within the other Ummahs. Are these 12 Imams within the Ummah of Muhammad [saw] equal to the other Imams for the other Prophets if they even exist.
@dr.mmaudi8194
@dr.mmaudi8194 3 жыл бұрын
Fool
@fatimaabbas9001
@fatimaabbas9001 3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.mmaudi8194 stfu
@jamalatmaca8071
@jamalatmaca8071 2 жыл бұрын
For me when I inquired about the origin of the Mahdi after shia: It looks like a "money redistribution machine". Very unbelievable when you read it alone. They are off not God centered but Imams and Mahdi centered.
@faheemabbas8303
@faheemabbas8303 2 жыл бұрын
We don't believe in him. He is false If 13 sahaba's can be Munafiakh he is still a ordinary human who can easily fall for money 🤣🤣🤣
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