Grand Design/Frame Flex/Carsons

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Lambo & Doc

Lambo & Doc

Ай бұрын

My opinion of GD now and others , unedited off the cuff rambling video about the Rv industry.

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@JohnMartini
@JohnMartini Ай бұрын
The RVIA is the RVs lobbying group. They’ve fought lemon laws on RVs, and claim they inspect RV manufacturers for quality construction. The bar must be set super low. Plus the fact that the workers are invented to push the travel trailers out the door fast, it has led to all of this. I’ve had travel trailers since 1988 and the quality has dropped steadily since 2008.
@hfd413
@hfd413 Ай бұрын
We purchased a 2022 Rockwood Minilite 2509s after extensive research. We wanted aluminum frame with azdel walls. This was the #1 ranked bunk model under 30 feet in the nation. Only two minor issues. Plumbing under kitchen sink came loose and spilled a gallon of water while we were using it and a minor leak at the top of the front windshield. We added an extra seal that easily fit in the gap. Three days before the 2 year warranty expired on the Coleman 15k A/C unit, the compressor locked up. The dealer took it in immediately and it was replaced with 1 day left. I don't think you'll be disappointed with Rockwood.
@gtibbot
@gtibbot Ай бұрын
We purchased a Rockwood 2906BS in 2021 (during Covd) and it has been rock solid, good luck.
@Premier-Media-Group
@Premier-Media-Group Ай бұрын
I'm not usually pedantic, but I'd love it for everyone to stop using the manufacturers' jargon of "frame flex", and instead use the more accurate term of "frame failure". Also, the dealers who refuse to provide timely and effective service AFTER the sale need to be called out as well as the mfg. The dealership is who sold the defective unit, yet they only worry about stalling warranty processes until customers get frustrated and go elsewhere. They need to also be named and shamed when these issues get no resolution.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
I have to agree it is frame failure, the manufactures are acting like our politicians with their own narrative. If we keep saying it maybe customers will believe it. 100% agree getting the dealers name out there, these dealers know they’re selling junk.
@042452
@042452 Ай бұрын
By the way The Carson’s evidently have been bought out again as most of his Videos are now gone again and they evidently are buying a new KZ Durango….so I assume he has signed another NDA
@kecmv
@kecmv Ай бұрын
It's not just GD and there's a reason that there is no Ralph Nader's in the RV world?
@440-6Pack
@440-6Pack Ай бұрын
Please record your videos in Landscape Mode.
@CreepyCharlie
@CreepyCharlie Ай бұрын
This!!
@2010snopro500
@2010snopro500 Ай бұрын
Rockwood and Flagstaff are probably one of the best trailers to buy as far as they're employees.They've been there a long time very low.Turn out in rockwood and flagstaff workers. I've had 3 Flagstaff R VS one travel trailer.2/5 wheels and have not had any major problems.A couple of minor few trim popping off.But other than that no major problems.I will only buy a Flagstaff.Or rockwood trailer
@Adrian-mf2pi
@Adrian-mf2pi 26 күн бұрын
I bought a 2509S 2020 and have been extremely happy.
@me98gt
@me98gt Ай бұрын
We sold our Diesel Pusher last November and bought a Micro Lite and I'm very impressed with the quality of it. We first looked at the Grand Design imagine xls 22rbe. But the Flagstaff (Rockwood) was much better quality and had better features.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc 29 күн бұрын
We specifically went to Elkhart to look at GD, and then we went to Rockwood…..I was sold.
@lakewoodadventures
@lakewoodadventures Ай бұрын
Rockwood is a Berkshire owned company and no one has the guts to push old Warren Buffet around. He's a stickler for selling quality in allof this businesses. For now, Rockwood is safe, but once he passes away, it will be interesting to see if they start cutting corners.
@campergyrl8461
@campergyrl8461 Ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking up.
@brianrussell9419
@brianrussell9419 Ай бұрын
Like the look of your metal carport . I had a 46’ X 30’ built like that last January for my 2016 Momentum . Would like to see more of yours .
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
Send me your email and I’ll send pics. 30x40 garage with a 12’ door.
@stephaniediamond9161
@stephaniediamond9161 Ай бұрын
Wingman has a new video about how to file complaint directly with the Feds
@doglover8204
@doglover8204 Ай бұрын
How does “extended warranty” keep RVers and the general motoring public more safe? Too many frame failures!
@moorecamping5503
@moorecamping5503 Ай бұрын
We had a 2007 Rockwood and structurally it was fantastic. We have a 2018 FR Cedar Creek 5th wheel and it’s been amazing going on ur 7. No major issues at all.
@davidjohnson9217
@davidjohnson9217 Ай бұрын
I agree with everything you said…except govt do more with less. Seems they strive to do less with more…but I digress. GD owner, time and dimes to maintain but so far so good. Thanks for your perspective!
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
Excellent…..agreed.
@pettittmd1
@pettittmd1 Ай бұрын
I had a 2016 Momentum 376TH (Pre-covid) and every basement floor and the dining room floor rotted, windows leaked, etc.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
What a shame, and nothing you can do about it. I think I’d pull it around with a big ole sign stating it was a lemon…POS !
@pettittmd1
@pettittmd1 Ай бұрын
@@lambo_and_doc I traded it in in October.
@ktrotter7182
@ktrotter7182 Ай бұрын
6:37 Stopped about halfway through, ordered a 2020 Grand Design and have been full time since. Minor problems are expected but not two major companies, perhaps in agreement, greedily putting buyers at risk over a few dollars more in their pockets. Lippert and Grand Design and perhaps others, in my opinion, have bilked people out of their money, security and dreams by the corner cutting they reportedly have done. I’ll stop here because I don’t want to be disrespectful, I want things fixed. Thank you for the time.
@slednecks1124
@slednecks1124 Ай бұрын
I have a 2021 GD 28G Momentum Toy Hauler that had signs of frame flex the day that it hit my dealerships lot. We preordered our unit, and when it arrived we went to do our walkthrough and that is when I found the laminate floor separated from the subfloor. The dealership led me to believe it was just an adhesive problem so I accepted and took ownership of the unit. I found out later on a FB group that the problem was much larger and it was symptoms of frame flex, which was common on the Momentum bumper pull toy haulers near the front bedroom area. GD does not want to acknowledge this as a structural issue and wanted to install a transition strip over the bubbled flooring as their fix. I refused to allow this kind of repair as it does not address the actual problem but only hides the bubbles in the flooring. Since the interaction with GD, there has been MANY people coming forward with their frame flex and frame failure problems. I will never buy another Grand Design again, poorly constructed product and the absolute worst customer service in my opinion.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
Wow, this is sad to hear. Hopefully something can be done about this.
@slednecks1124
@slednecks1124 Ай бұрын
@@lambo_and_doc I do not anticipate anything being done about it, I am just here to warn others of my experiences so they do not have to deal with the same headache experience.
@GrandDesignRVMajorIssues
@GrandDesignRVMajorIssues Ай бұрын
Good video! Thank you for speaking truth!
@Kingskruisin
@Kingskruisin Ай бұрын
Too many Lobbist in Washington.
@tomadams266
@tomadams266 Ай бұрын
Extending the warranty doesn't hold the company accountable to any serious degree. Especially, if your coach spends about a year or longer in the shop..
@user-yi2dj7ce3t
@user-yi2dj7ce3t Ай бұрын
Thank you bud. I am doing research now to buy a toy hauler. I rather hear from a working man and hear straight answer. I understand it’s your opinion but I’m 61 years old retired tradesmen. I have to learn to listen to everything and who to listen to.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
I really suggest tour some Rv manufacturing plants. It was a great experience. Shipshewana Indiana is a great place to visit.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
Also I just watched a video from RV Wingman regarding this issue, he has a Rv lemon lawyer as a guest.
@CreepyCharlie
@CreepyCharlie Ай бұрын
We own a 2018 Rockwood. It is better in many ways than GD. They spent a little more where it counts. Suspension, floors etc. Solid.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
Agreed
@RonSmith-kx6ut
@RonSmith-kx6ut Ай бұрын
Just sold the best 5th wheel I’ve ever had. A 2004 Sunnybrook.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
We spent 5 months in our Sunnybrook last year touring. Then passed it on to our youngest son.
@LuisRamos-jw7zr
@LuisRamos-jw7zr Ай бұрын
Sounding like the Carsons. A different RV about every year. Anyway, who on earth thinks that a monstrosity called a ‘fifth wheel’ trailer towed by a monstrosity called a ‘Ford F450 Dually’ is a good idea?
@samconnor7907
@samconnor7907 Ай бұрын
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@LuisRamos-jw7zr
@LuisRamos-jw7zr Ай бұрын
Well Sam, I look forward to your RV horror stories. They are quite entertaining.
@edyoung6573
@edyoung6573 Ай бұрын
Well said!!! It's so bad out there! Would not take a GD for free! What GD has done to the Carson's is sickening! GD is like the current Whitehouse!
@kellyburdette6108
@kellyburdette6108 26 күн бұрын
I have a 2011 Montana 34rl will never sell 😊
@wardog392
@wardog392 Ай бұрын
Grand design has came out with a 5 yr. Frame warranty . Don't know how well it's working.
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
After the complaints they added two more years. Step in the right direction.
@robv4053
@robv4053 Ай бұрын
Actually, it's meaningless. Read it carefully. It's fluff, not protection.
@GrandDesignRVMajorIssues
@GrandDesignRVMajorIssues Ай бұрын
That warranty allows Grand Design to pick and choose who's warranty they want to honor. They use to have a 5-year warranty until they had Lippert spec out a thinner and lighter frame. Don't let this warranty fool you. Plus, they keep blaming social media content creators for spreading lies and with these people exposing them, we would have never even known about frame failure. This is way, way bigger than they are acknowledging and they keep trying to buy out these content creators and making them sign NDAs. One would ask, why is that??? Plus they have certain brand ambassadors try to make excuses for them. They will not even acknowledge that they are dealing with frame failure at such a large scale. Yes, a large scale!
@robv4053
@robv4053 Ай бұрын
@GrandDesignRVMajorIssues Some of the original brand ambassadors, both social media and traditional ones that were show goers, rally staples, etc. are no more. There are reasons for this, and I can say with absolute certain all were due to significant issues with their coaches.
@conniel72461
@conniel72461 29 күн бұрын
We have owned 2 Rockwoods and loving both of them. We would never own a GD.
@LuisRamos-jw7zr
@LuisRamos-jw7zr 27 күн бұрын
Carson who?
@alittletexasingeorgia
@alittletexasingeorgia Ай бұрын
Why does everyone keep blaming the quality of RVs on the manufacturers? Yes they build them but who is buying the trash, knows they are trash, complains they are trash, and wishes they would fix the trash. Quit buying the trash and they will fix the trash.
@user-hk7lh5sb8j
@user-hk7lh5sb8j Ай бұрын
Had a GD for 4 months a pice of shit glad it’s gone ! Won’t ever look at it again !!
@peterealey4004
@peterealey4004 Ай бұрын
Extended warranty is meaningless! That’s like saying hey we are going to double your death benefits yeah tell me are you going to be better off? How about just get better at building the damn camper!
@lambo_and_doc
@lambo_and_doc Ай бұрын
Hell yeah !
@Hunterlewis675
@Hunterlewis675 26 күн бұрын
RVIA = $. You pay for that piece of plastic
@stephaniediamond9161
@stephaniediamond9161 Ай бұрын
Wingman has a new video about how to file complaint directly with the Feds
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