Yeah, so true. But also I imagine they’d feel…hesitant? Considering what happened to their own adoptive family because of Bhaal.

wait what hapend the drudges famely i didnt know they got adopted @@SusanaCanales1

Wyll is kind of the defacto Origin character for me when I play. He’s just generically hero-ish enough to fit my self-insert OC play-style while also having enough unique flavor to keep things engaging without going full Dark Urge.

Total MC and husbando material, 10/10. Just amazing that he's not destroyed by everything because he knows how to stay true to himself, and never doubts for a moment that Mizora would get the best of him

@@garrettcarter5622personally Karlach feels like more of a perfect origin character since the whole dying thing makes her story more about helping everyone around you then saving yourself

Shoot, I agree. I’m still uploading Wyll origin content on my channel before I go to the next origin character.

Really, his alcoholism disturbs me

@@EKATERINAS-bv8ldAnd yet I’m amazed he has no hangovers. I wonder how he does it…

Wyll is overrated. Abstinence until marriage? Booooring!

He is dull as hell, I don't see the appeal. Probably the most selfless of all companions, but is just too dry

He's been more out with my Tav than freaking Astarion. I have no idea what people are talking about about when they "complain" about the Warlock class and his character in general. Would have been predictable for him to start questioning his decisions regarding becoming a warlock, thank goodness we ended up with an adult who not only knew what he was doing but takes accountability for it. Never heard him whine, not once, even though he was dealt a dirty hand. His powers are fantastic. I got pact of the blade really early on in the game and recruited him before Gale, so he ended up being the party's main "mage". Warlocks are wizards, but cooler LMAO. And yeah it's freaking poignant that the "knight in shining armor" is the warlock in this game, because that helps you see them in a new light. When you hear "he made a pact with the devil for his powers" you end up imagining a power hungry man whose reasons are definitely more self serving.... But he's not that at all. Minthara's class also makes that statement, you'd think a Paladin would be forced to be more "good" but she definitely doesn't at least start off that way. I don't know what happens if you knock her out instead of killing her at the goblin camp but I hear she gets better afterwards? Anyway. Love Wyll's entire character and his character arc. I get that his story doesn't progress through act 2 but really picks up in act 3 for obvious reasons, and yeah it's just as interesting as you thought it was going to be. Because he's never allowed to disclose the terms of his pact, and because he comes with a parasite attached to his back (Mizora), it feels extra earned to give him the end he deserves. Also, very much hammering home the idea behind his story when you see him get turned into a demon after refusing to kill Karlach. He does the right thing, it makes him look bad 😅😂

​@@Taric25he's like literally the prince of Baldur's Gate. What kind of religious and societal/cultural norms do you think he abides by? How about when you see him practicing how to dance... Why do you think that is? It's because he actually attends balls. If you want the sexy, there's Astarion. He has no cultural norms to abide by (And no moral values), he will try to f-+k you from the moment you get his approval high enough, it will be for non altruistic reasons of course (On multiple fronts, 1. Because he wants a blood bank to suck on 2. Because he wants a mommy/daddy to protect him from Cazador), and he doesn't attend balls he just goes to orgies. There, you can have that guy if you want "the sexy sex". That's good though, no? That the characters are different, and the writers made sure they act in a way appropriate for their background. But hey, a wise woman once said that Astarion should be grateful that you favored his dagger over Wyll's blade. I can say I concur. Wait till marriage? I'll wait as long as there's a life time supply of ... Blade of frontiers. 😮

​@@dhaunas1224And you never thought that the warlock character being the most selfless of all an interesting narrative take?

Wish they kept that, but oh well. At least we have some options, like this with Wyll.

😂well at least the Ravenguards are morally good, its the best option to prevent another Gortash situation.

@@AnonymousFREEZEpOp1 This is assuming Lily Ravenguard doesn't grow up to be another Tyrant

wyll can become granduke when ulder lives?

@@natg4984 There are traditionally four Grand Dukes at any given time in Baldur's Gate. In the years before BG3, they were Ulder Ravengard, Dillard Portyr, Belynne Stelmane, and Thalamra Vanthampur, though each Grand Duke's status was... complicated at the start of BG3.

She looks very cute indeed

I mean even Astarion calls him a fairytale prince

That's why you go straight for Astarion x Wyll lol

Even Astarion thinks he's perfect 😂

​@@DylanKing-xe4ylI think it's the male equivalent ship to Shart x Laezel 😂👏

I'm guessing you may be able to get this ending if Karlach turns into an illithid. She'd be alive, but wouldn't have to go back to Avernus, so Wyll wouldn't need to go to Avernus either. I haven't tried it out, though.

@@Danielledaydreamer oooh that’s a good point

@@Danielledaydreamer Technically not, the illithid form is basically the tadpole consuming you, and adapting into your personality. When Karlach becomes Illithid, she dies, and the tadpole thinks it's her

I think you could get this ending in multiplayer without Karlach dying. I was going to test if one of my friends could go back to Avernus with Karlach while I romanced Wyll for this ending. Unfortunately Palworld, among other games, stole my friends as soon as we got to Act 3...

@@PalatableDinner That’s how it played out for our 1st playthrough. My BF romanced Karlach & I romanced Wyll. His Tav & Karlach are blazing through the Hells while my Tav got the HEA with Wyll & Lily. I bout cried when we played through the epilog. So sweet!! 😊😊😊

I think you can imply you'll have a "family" with Gale in his romance

​@discoelysia I think same with ascended Asterion and redeemed durge, if you have Jaheira she'll call you out for thinking about starting a family

@@discoelysiaoh I can only assume Gale would love to settle down hard, even though he claims he is not “father material.” He already has a little book of baby names, I just know it 😂

You can. Played with a friend Gith who was best friends with karlach. He took her to Avernus along with Wyll. While I dated Shadow. We came back to the feast with everyone alive.

@@cosmosvision I'm curious. Who was the host in your game, and when did you finish your playthrough? Because I looked this question up online, and most answers suggest that only the host gets to decide the ending. I'd be glad to learn this isn't the case.

She won't go to Avernus alone. Karlach is either dead or Illithid in this playthrough

@@thornelson1411yea so literally dead or dead, it’s so fucked up but being real it’s probably better for Wyll to be out in Avernus and fighting to make sure people don’t have to be in the same situation he was then just being some boring ass politician

I prefer the other ending for him, the blade of frontiers shouldn’t just stop fighting and be a boring politician, in the blade of Avernus ending he’s saving people from having to be in the predatory contracts that he was stuck in, and that’s way more in-character for him

1) Karlach death because I can't go Avernus with her if go Wyll no more Lover. 2) She fly alone if go with her Wyll no more Lover. 3)I try it but not work for me. Wyll's father death in prison when go Iron Throne. Need breaks a pact and go save him. 4)There was a box of clothes at the party. Near SH old camp.

Ah ok, that’s difficult if you romance Wyll. I had Wyll not take the pact. Then i went to the Steelwatch foundry, talked to Zanner Toobin. He told me that his daughter and the families of the other Gondians are captured and Gortash forced them to work for him. In the basement, there’s a note. You have to read it to update the quest. So i made my main character invisible so i don’t have to kill any Gondians, read the note. Then i went to the Iron Throne and Wylls father was still alive. I sent a healer with Wyll. Open the cell, healed the father and then let him out. That way he should even survive the attack of Mizoras spiders. Plus i also saved all the Gondians and Omellum that way But your ending is cute. I hope Larian also lets us have it in the future with Karlach alive Glad to hear about the clothes box, I don’t like the standard clothes, Larian put everyone in. They don’t look so nice on female characters ^^ Thanks for the answers ❤

​@MoonsongReverb You dont even need the quest. You can just go to the warehouse straight away. Though you probably should still go to the priestesses of umberlee and take their quest beforehand since its quite easy to miss

​​​@@Dochi78307. Then, I definitely made a good decision killing Karlach (I imagine she died later in your playthrough). I mean, she is nice and all, but I prefer this ending for my romanced Wyll, and also, I don't like horned Wyll.

I broke the pact but Wyll never lost his horns 😢

Not in 6 months.

Nah. She even says something like get used to the new form because there's some things even my magic can't undo. Those babies are permanent, pact or no.

@@waitwhat1029 Oh, so I remembered things incorrectly. Good to have things cleared up.

@@arashimifune2853 ...no big. This game is massive. And it's just one little line in the middle of a dialogue. Every playthrough I hear something that I didn't hear the time before.

She says it will be half a year until she releases him and he loses his powers (which you can negotiate down to once the Absolute is dealt with it the pact ends immediately). The transformation is permanent, unless you find a god to fix you. Ao certainly could, with a mere thought, but wouldn't. Asmodeus himself, despite not being a full god, might be able to undo it... but it would probably take a few thousand souls as sacrifice (whether the magic itself required them to power it, he would no doubt demand them all the same). You might be able to undo it with a True Resurrection scroll if you killed him and completely destroyed his devil form body with disintegration, but that would be at the whim of the gods to allow it and even if they allow the body to be restored as before they still may or may not let the soul be healed of the changes. The changes are not just to his mortal shell.

@@masondeross I remembered the half a year thingy, but forgot the details - have over 500h on the counter, but completed the game once only. I think it was in October. Well, Wyll can always pass a tiefling, I guess ;p

You can go to Avernus with them

Yes, its from "Silver's Hair Pack" on Nexus.

Probably adopted no matter, as the PC could romance Wyll as a man.

Well, Karlach dies in this scenario, so... I don't know, sounds depressing giving her this name.

They probably will eventually but it's only been six months. So... at best your Tav would be pregnant lol

mmh, headcannon it is then@@Cassandra_Solidor

I think it’s because the tav is a gith not a human/elf/halfelf

mmh, idk if that would change it. but i just assume it's so you can still have the option even if you play male?@@oliversmithey723

Well, looking at the dialogue option, it makes sense that the Dark Urge wouldn't want to risk having a kid who could be influenced by Bhaal. Instead of risking passing down that urge, she can repay the adoptive family that took her in when she was a child.

I disagree with you his writing

@@marquisepixley684 Wyll's writing is objectively the weakest out of every single companion mostly because he has no relevance to his own personal quest.

@@Kek393 That's because he has two: Duke Ravengard and killing/sparing Karlach. One comes from Mizora, the other is quite literally his own family. Saying he has no relevance to his own quest is very much ignorant of the fact that Wyll's father is the guy you have to rescue in the Iron Throne, and also that Wyll still genuinely cares for his father. Definitely true that he needs to at least do some stuff by Act 3 though. Wyll doesn't have to be the one that opens up the Iron Throne, you can just do it yourself. You could go through the entire game effectively never using him if you wanted, and still complete his quest. He should at least be a shortcut on some aspects of it.

@@hythunza1811 its not ignorant since he doesnt even have to be present for his own quest aside from the "big decisions" where he has no relevance either. You make all of the important choices FOR him. YOU choose if you want to kill Karlach, YOU choose of you want to sacrifice his soul or not and YOU choose if he becomes Duke of Baldur's Gate or the Blade of Avernus. He has no relevance in his own quest on the note that he literally has no strong opinions one way or the other in the literal most important moment of his life. Plus the writing for other characters reacting to him not selling his soul is just fucking criminal. When Shadowheart sacrifices her parents everyone goes "oh poor Shadowheart" but when Wyll doesn't sacrifice his soul everyone shit talks him??? It's like everyone collectively forgot what it means to sell your soul to the devil.

It makes me so sad bc I truly love him and find his dialog around his quests + Karlach really endearing, but a lot of it feels like there were scenes missing and we're having conversations like they were supposed to be there

You know she came from an egg, right? Edit: And she's a Durge, which means her biological child will have to face the exact same sh!t she went through.

In this case, just a matter of keeping it simple. 6 months is not enough time for a human birth, no factor in the different races for tav whether they are compatible, how long is gestation what type of offspring they produce... trying to factor all these things in an ending...

@@TheSteve285 Okay, ya got me there. Still though… it’d be nice if Shadowheart could’ve possibly become pregnant or Lae’zel could’ve produced her own egg that was being looked after by Voss or something.

@@JStryker47 Shadowheart might not be able to have kids (coming out of the cult of loss, where everyone is adopted), and regardless of that she's in a constant state of being hunted--pregnancy would kill her. Giving birth (a process that would take several hours where she's unable to protect herself) would get her killed. Even were those not problems, the likelihood of Shar intervening and killing her or the child, or, worse, stealing the child, would not be worth the risk. Absolutely not something she would agree to because it's a bad idea once you think it through. Would not be safe to do so for years if not decades. If she chose Shar she would not ever have children for religious reasons. Lae'zel I don't think is capable of egg laying. Not every githyanki female is fertile, only some of them. If she could she would probably have been off doing that as her full time job.

@@Kat-xy7fm At that point in time, I'm inclined to believe that other deities - like Selune, would be compelled to intervene on Shadowheart's behalf. Particularly after how instrumental she was in taking down the Chosen Three and the Absolute. And that most remaining Sharrans would be pissing their pants at the very mention of her name, after that, along with all the failed attempts to take her down. Not to mention, a certain other hero by her side (hint, hint) or their many friends in high places; such as the Guild, the Ironhands, Isobel, Aylin, and Withers - just to name a few. How do you know Lae'zel isn't fertile? Or that her mate couldn't assume the duty of looking after their egg? Sure, Vlaakith made the rules before, but if Lae’zel’s fighting *against* her now…