el scientifico Where those tapes at El? Lets trade.

el scientifico you took me waaayyyy back Lee suits with the big bell, silver medallions with the ruby, mock-necks and plaids (everybody had the same one in gray) . name belts, tray bags bigger than todays dimes, 90 watt 'boxes' the size of suitcases....tagging up the train yards under linden plaza...the leather string hanging out your back pocket from the 007..

Wow!!! You said a mouth full those was the good days.

You brothers bringing back good memories. Man we was FRESH on the scene. Word.

@@coreyoliphant3268 Kids knows nothing about I can say our era when we was having fun dressing and doing so much you know what I'm saying.

Jonathan Wiskee : This NEW generation D🛑N’T wanna put in that type of W🔥RK ✍🏾mumble trap rap is S🤮 much easier besides REC📀RD COMPANIES don’t L👀K for talent now they L👀K for HYPE , I hear 👂 the talent on the streets of NYC but they are N🛑T gonna get any RECORD DEALS 👌🏿

What is that song name?

Best 3 to ever to rap and are legends to start it from the very beginning.

ROB ski from Dean. St. Park don't forget the fever flash furious 5 and the treacherous 3 British knights BVD'S OR PARIS SET THEN THE DAMION KNIT THEN STRAIGHT LEG CALVIN KLEIN PLAY BOY SOCKS WALLABEES AND KANGOL AND STRATOJAC WITH CAZAL AND KANGOL AND A SPLIFF A BAT and a 25auto nobody NEW power to Harlem world ROB BASS 1979 AND THE FAT ROPE AROUND THE KNECK PIECE.

Or the WALLABEES and THE big ROPE and the 25auto nobody NEW power to Harlem world

1979 R.I.P.50CENTS ORIGINAL AND KILLER BEN ORIGINAL BROOKLYN FINEST.NUMBER.1.FOREVER.

And the STRATOJAC and sheep skin hat gloves and 25auto 2

troy smith one question did you ever live at 1010 on the 6th

troy smith did you dj with the dynamic 3 mcs

they were out way before the CC4. As I said they were way better than the anyone. Crews got better as time progressed. As Hip hop Crews go if you look @the time and dates Flash was and is a True Pioneer. Along with the Furious 4 Then 5. taking nothing away from The Treacherous 3 and DJ EZ Lee. They were definitely Fire. All MC's in the Crew could more than hold their own at any time.

(As u said) lol.. The furious 5 were dope in their own right, but as far as routines go, they don't comepete with the CC4...

Grandmaster Caz of the cold Crush was the creator of the stolen Rapper's Delight by the Sugarhill Gang...

That's right The Cold Crush was in a league of there own.

@@productionzonenyc Stop it. The only thing Caz had to do with 'Rapper's Delight' is most of Big Bank Hank lyrics, that's it. And from Caz own mouth, he said he gave Hank those rhymes

DJFRANKNICE - Freelance it’s on the flash album - the source

The record is called Heat. google it, you should be able to download it with no problem. Do you have any tapes to trade?

Do you have Tapes?

G Rap,Ice T,Schooly D & NWA was doing it in 86

Heat

Troy - are you saying the bit at the end wasn't live? It was taken from a studio recording? Discogs has nothing called "Heat" by the Treacherous 3. I'd like to figure this out. THanks.

do you have tapes to trade?

Nah bro..can i purchase it?

Do anybody know what happened to the original tape master? He use to tape all the jams.

1987 New Music Seminar Battle.

@@troylsmith21 Who's battling please?

@@kevinscott59Tape 204- New Music Seminar 1987. (Note: In the Emcee competition, at the end it was a three way tie between Mele Mel, King Sun and Grand Master Caz. In the semi finals Mel went against emcee Breeze from Philadelphia and slayed him with a rhyme that was about a stick up kid/ killer. With that rhyme alone Mel could have won two, three years in a row. It reminded me of Denzel Washington in the movie Training Day, Denzel played a character we have never seen him play before, but he played the role outstanding! The same with Mel, I never heard him do gangster hip hop. His description was like a Slick Rick the Ruler story, something that should be listened to. King Sun killed it when he went against Female emcee Disco Cee in his semi final. King Sun used the Judges of the New Music Seminar in his routine, which ended with him saying Nelson George dissed him in his Billboard write up! Caz blazed Bangle Bee Boy the Outlaw emceeing about back in the days. In the end Caz was the second runner up, King Sun the first runner up and Mele Mel the Champion. In the finals of the D.J. battle, Cash Money is the Champion and very impressive doing it. Joe Cooley the runner up did an outstanding job as well. The hosts were P. Fine and Dr. Funkin Kline. The judges were Marly Marl, Lady B, Red Alert, Flash, Kool Moe Dee, Nelson George, Doug E. Fresh and Barry Bee. The sponsor was Techniques.) 90min.

Kev if you on Facebook request me then check me for LegendaryHipHop. That's my page on Facebook about Hip Hop from the early days. I just finished a story with D.L.B. and his solo record F 4000. Also I'm up to 320 live tapes from this era and earlier

@@troylsmith21 Man,you don't know how much I appreciate you providing me with such a lengthy and detailed response about the nms rap/dj battles.(I just watched the footage of Cutmaster DC battling Joe Cooley for the first time just yesterday.) I'm always trying to brush up on my history while following the work of people like yourself,Jayquan and Mark Skillz. I was born in the 70s so I have to retroactively learn about this history. For instance I'd never even heard F4000 until around 2003 when old school hip hop tapes were being made available on soulseek. Needless to say I was blown away when I heard it.Next-level shit.Indeed I've always been more partial to the more cutting-edge stuff from the ogs, like Treacherous Three,Fearless Four,Rammellzee,Pumpkin and the Fantasy Three,World Famous Supreme Team and Malcolm McClaren,Fab Five Freddy,Funkmaster Wizard Wiz etc. Any recommendations on what you think I may enjoy hearing I'm all ears. I'll definitely be checking out your Facebook page. Respect due!