2:10 for these low end GPU specs we have some new information and it is fair to speculate these are for the handheld.

Thats because you have.. and if you don't keep your mouth shut they will come after you. We don't talk about that kind of crazy around here.

And we will see it again

Why?

Just 6 more months of seeing it

@@bousch8253 Smh

I think the cancellation rumors are put out on purpose to build more hype. In the end it's all about boosting money. I could be wrong tho. Just a hunch.

I expect the same from AMD next graphics card generation.

@@myamaha62 Agreed, I don't think AMD's cancelling their high end esp with the recent earnings call from their current gen GPUs.

yep

It's because everyone including their grand parents love to spread rumors instead of the actual truth

That was just clickbait lmao, they not gonna reach 4080 levels

Not unless Intel spends way more then necessary

It's very possible that the reason why it is having such a late release is because they want the drivers to be as good as possible before release so it isn't a repeat of the arc launch

We waited to Alchemist, look how that went

No you shouldn't wait

@@kzip2009 its not hard to wait when the only other person making gpu's to care about wont be talking about them till Sept the earliest. Waiting is gonna happen anyway. 4000 series is can kiss my butt.

Me too. About GPUs though - prefer them compact and cool

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Mine is about the same as my 6700xt give or take.

You say this but even AMD doesn't really have an equivalent yet so... kinda irrelevant atm. Though I heard the Arc cards actually do decent with certain AI workloads and such.

Intel and AMD are both stingy too. I would like to see 64GB VRAM minimum, but the best from Nvidia and AMD is 24GB while Intel only does 16GB. If you want more, you need super expensive professional cards.

@@richardyao9012your crazy

Every new driver update has increased performance significantly on the current ones. What games are you playing that have issues?

Unless you only play GTA V, Detroit: Become Human, and Starfield, Arc is fine. I've been daily driving an Arc laptop since 2022 and it's come a very long way. The majority of the time it performs like any other entry level laptop GPU. There are very few games that are a big problem on Arc nowadays.

After the launch of the rx 7600xt 16gb I have low expectations for amd to offer any good value for gpus anymore

R-word was funny. I'll continue to support amd as I don't really give a s-word about the super high end and I like to keep an unR-worded wallet.

@@jasonvors169good value or high performance? Their VALUE is way higher than NVIDIA. Their cost per FPS in most games is way lower. This idea that because they don’t make a GPU for crypto miners and the rare gamer that has performance overkill brainrot, it makes them worse, is stupid

"Everyone says "wait for AMD/Intel" each generation" Well Intel is new, so... no, no one says that. This time there is BM to wait for, but lets be real, you are waiting for 5000 series anyway.

@@xBINARYGODx Seeing what nvidia did with the 40 series with the hardcore gimping with everything lower than the 4090, Than the amazing connector melting issue the 50 series will be a joke to.

we have yet to get hardware specifications

Exactly. I can't argue the value of 4070s perf at $4-450 but with 50 series launching 4080 should be the target. $5-550

That maybe true but unlike the competition they have to work twice as hard to get caught up with drivers and trying to keep up while, The competition doesn't have to worry about getting support and gets all the support they want, Meanwhile new releases don't even have the Intel cards listed in the system requirements.

@@jasonvors169 XeSS XMX is about as capable as the DLSS. There is not much between. Then we have the APO that isn't been talked much that can give 10-50% boost. ARC is paired with INTEL CPU and it seems that can give 20%. Lot of potential that isn't been talked about. My guess is because most of these channels have heavy AMD/Nvidia sponsorship behind them. But in my eyes the Battlemage is late. We should be seeing Celestial end of the year or start of 2025. Instead Nvidia went with their "Super" and it seems the 50 series will be launched at the same time as Battlemage. That is very bad for INTEL and they have to cut the prices. There are AMD releases and Nvidia releases. It splits the releases. In the end I see INTEL having almost as much supported XeSS games than the competition.

well if its a 4080 that costs way less and nvidia keeps the bs priceing with the 5000 series, then intel will move plenty of GPU's so long as the software is better this time.

@@xBINARYGODx I believe it will be around 4080. Some rumors showed some shipping manifest with Battlemage chips that were around A770 mark but as it seems those might have been for the handheld that is also in development. B980 Xe 64/256 bus/16-24gb/250-300W B970 Xe 56/256 bus/16gb/225-250W (launch after B980) Mobile Xe 40/192 bus/12gb (launch 2025 with the new mobile CPU) These specs have been knows for some time. B980 as is already is matching 4080 by these specs. But these specs do not take in count Intel Application Optimization (APO) that has a performance boost of 10-50% in supported games. Also XeSS XMX is matching Nvidia's DLSS very closely. The catch is that you have to pair the ARC with INTEL CPU. For Alchemist I believe there is still about 20% on the table paired with INTEL CPU. We see the gap getting wider with every driver update to AMD CPU. My opinion is that INTEL had to launch the Alchemist with a compromise to perform equally with AMD CPU to sell. That is also why I think INTEL is in news failing with their high end CPU's. This is deliberate sabotage in my eyes from Asus. No other manufacturer has problems. base is 400A by INTEL. Asus pushing it to 511A where the chips fails. Now only giving 280A to under perform. On Asus even if you manually set the correct values the score is just under 37000. The correct score is almost 38000. So Asus seems to be compensating their own shortcomings or even worse been paid to give bad publicity. It is a high stakes game where Nvidia already was forced to launch "Super" for their 40 series in fear of Battlemage. I think INTEL lost that launch window and now is actively working on drivers and APO.

They are gaming GPUs, who cares? I’m glad they aren’t focusing on making them good at AI and Crypto mining because I’m tired of the prices skyrocketing due to high demand

Yes, they're quite good at it too. Arc are generally a little bit better for productivity than gaming.

Why does it specifically work good on intel cpu? Any feature or reason?

​@@MJsPrOuTsnot yet, they promised some sort of optimization but if it was released they told nobody

​@MJsPrOuTs , there is no difference in terms of game performance. The one area where you will get a benefit from running arc with an intel cpu is for video encoding because arc can leverage the igpu on recent intel cpus to improve quicksync performance, but you have to have a recent intel cpu with an igpu; not the F variant.

@@MJsPrOuTs It is already looking like 20% bump with INTEL CPU. ARC architecture is different to AMD/Nvidia and the latest driver updates are boosting the pairing with INTEL CPU. Matching architecture. My view is that to sell INTEL made a compromise to have AMD CPU working almost the same. Now it seems there is plenty on the table for optimizing with INTEL CPU. So when the Battlemage hits the shops your best option is to pair it with high end INTEL CPU. Check Intel Application Optimization (APO). Still very new but it promises 10-50% boost.

Unfortunately Intel’s fumble on the recent gen CPUs dying means AMD CPUs look much more enticing now

They're working on releasing arc igpus first as that's an easy sell. It's hard to be first when you don't have the money of Nvidia devoted to gpus, even if you try to beat them to market they'll probably have something ready to go

@@nimrodery I am almost sure it is not about money. Intel probably plays different game, kinda like Nintendo in world of consoles. Theywon't go for performance crown and no-one expects them to do it, so they will wait for other two to release something and set pricing. An Intelw ill price Battlemage accordingly. With AMD it is also most likely not a problem of money or NVidia being ready. They are just grifters. They learned that people talk about them better when they present themselves as underdogs. So they wait for NVidia's pricing to put their pricing as close as possible but still lower to be "the more consumer friendly". Of course in this calculation they mostly ignore NVidia's superiority in RT and features like DLSS or FG. I think people sitting there simply prefer to sell less GPUs for higher unit price, rather than more GPUs for lower price. But this gen AMD will f*ck itself over more than with 7000 series and *etarded pricing. Because now with no high-end they will compete against Battlemage from the bottom (most likely) and Alchemist had better 1st gen RT than AMD, their own 7000 series, NVidia's 40 series and low to mid 50 series. And they also release late. Can't wait to see the pricing and then sales after 1st couple of months.

5000 series is not coming before battlemage - an a 4080, perhaps, but that costs much less is a good deal especially if 5000 series is still prices like shit and is not some massive improvement (which the 3000 and 4000 have not been existing at all).

why wouldnt nvidia price like shit again? anyway, 5000 series not com,ing till after battlemage

Power consumption, die size, and proprietary frame gen support from the top of my head. If it's between a 4070S and a 4070 Ti, it would also be notably faster than the 3080 12GB. The used market will always be inherently better than the new market if you know what you're doing, but most people are very stubborn about sticking to the convenience, straightforwardness, and security that comes with buying new.

@@Vorexia I know what ya mean but how would it be noticeably faster when both cards are 30 teraflops and Nvidia has better drivers?

​@@Jolly-Green-SteveRumors are just that take it with a huge grain of salt, The Intel arc cards are past that 30 teraflops

The issue though is nvidia is offering you less every generation, The rtx 4060/4060ti is pretty much the rtx 4050/4050ti but with a huge price tag the rtx 4070 is the 4060 and the rtx 4060ti is the rtx 4070 super so the rtx 4070ti/super variant is just a rebaged 4070 graphics card with extra steps and costs more for no reason. Only card worth 2cents is the rtx 4090 cause it isn't gimped

"And AMD will challenge that." lol riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

Say that to nvidia with their unrealistic pricing 🤣

Bro what? Considering the last few Intel GPU gens were a couple gens behind on performance, the next one being inline with current gen is an insane jump! That kind of progress is huge.

You fool the a770 is already that level lmao.

​@@thetheoryguy5544With every driver I make I'll be getting closer to you," Intel arc a770"

No, the not dumb with money people will buy it. You nvidia shills need to stop acting like your shit don’t stink just because you make bad financial decisions