Graveyard Overdrive Precon Review: Meh?! Worst Precon Of The Set? - Magic: The Gathering

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Ай бұрын

In this episode, we delve into the Tricky Terrain Simic precon for #mtgmh3 Modern Horizons 3
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@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 Ай бұрын
What were they thinking with the Landbase!?
@xaxscratchxax926
@xaxscratchxax926 Ай бұрын
It's So BAD.
@niklasbolz4267
@niklasbolz4267 Ай бұрын
I was really stoked. But the mana base and the lack of goyfs is really bothering
@robinvouz
@robinvouz Ай бұрын
A lot of people seem incredibly disappointed with the deck but it honestly looks like the most fun out of the four. Reprint value is low, though Archon, Grist and Reaver Cleaver are certainly welcome; mana base is a complete disappointment for sure, but outside that it genuinely looks like a lot of fun! Goyfs might be on the low side though i'd assume going down a changeling and doublestrike route would help a lot. I think it should be easy enough to still flood the board with tokens through trample alone on goyfs. Reaver Cleaver makes a ton of sense in this deck as you're wanting to hit face with really big creatures, and generating that many treasures to play another goyf or mill right after sounds fantastic! I do wish we got Buried Alive in the precon rather than the main set, and am upset this deck seems like it needs the most tuning out of the four, however I firmly believe it's also being slept on in comparison
@avengedprophet1559
@avengedprophet1559 Ай бұрын
It's basically a Jund Go Smash deck, which is definitely not a bad thing. Disa makes a lot of tokens while Coram is a great engine (and probably better out of the box). Many are probably dissappointed because they wanted a Lhurgoyf Tribal precon, which it clearly didn't turn out to be.
@robinvouz
@robinvouz Ай бұрын
@avengedprophet1559 I think it's fair to expect that, however I think there's a lot to utilise with the commander even without changelings and goyfs. Gravebreaker Lamia to cheat out goyfs, or insatiable avarice/codex shredder to consistently mill them are great options, as are cards that shuffle graveyard into library to keep them coming for free
@xr9790
@xr9790 Ай бұрын
I’m honestly surprised Reanimate wasn’t in here, especially since we just got back to back reprints I was really hoping for a third RIP
@robinvouz
@robinvouz Ай бұрын
likely *because* we got back0to0back reprints, but even more likely that recursion isn't the focus compared to filling it
@dam49365
@dam49365 Ай бұрын
Jund, golgari with a sprinkle of red
@pote941
@pote941 Ай бұрын
I was honestly really dissapointed to see that tarmogoyf wasn't even in the tarmpgoyf deck. I was really considering buying this deck after the commander was leaked, but now I feel like I'll need so many switches that I'd rather just build a different, and probably much cheaper, deck.
@zakkuk8694
@zakkuk8694 Ай бұрын
Tarmogoyf not being reprinted was such a flavor fail. I was flabbergasted that it wasn't in here. Almost like they forgot the card existed 😂
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 Ай бұрын
Same here. The deck needs way too many upgrades to play. The landbase is horrible. Worst landbase in a commander product since new capenna.
@TheBlitzgundam
@TheBlitzgundam Ай бұрын
@@questionyourself718 I agree. I wish they printed some more impactful Jund matters cards. But since I am old school Modern Jund player with all my toolbox cards, upgrading this deck won't be a problem.
@unusuallycloudy
@unusuallycloudy Ай бұрын
@@zakkuk8694 It is there though, in the token slot. The card itself is not good enough for Commander and even Modern these days.
@patrickmcathey7081
@patrickmcathey7081 Ай бұрын
Maybe we get a few free goyf tokens which are just tarmagoyf cards?
@jessewinter5826
@jessewinter5826 Ай бұрын
I actually preordered this after some of the leaks showed a goyf theme. Man was I gutted when I finally saw the decklist. No Tarm, terrible landbase, very little synergy. Its very Jund, and thats cool, an homage for sure. It just feels like they squeezed Jund Modern into commander rather than try to make a good commander deck with Jund all-stars.
@patrickmcathey7081
@patrickmcathey7081 Ай бұрын
I disagree I see no fetchlands shocklands or lily of the vale if they were copying jund modern they missed the marks.
@jessewinter5826
@jessewinter5826 Ай бұрын
@@patrickmcathey7081 No argument here, man.
@MintChocDoublin
@MintChocDoublin Ай бұрын
Notably Disa does Negate counterspells on Llurgoyfs, but has to resolve and stay in play for that. The deck needed more dual type cards to be viable and less randomness. Some solemn simulacrums and burnished harts. Some cheeky tarfires and nameless inversions
@nickd6303
@nickd6303 Ай бұрын
The lhugoyf theme feels like the more casual direction as it will need more work and effort, while having Coram at the helm is much more straightforward. In general theres decent non land reprints.
@afspeellijstnaruto
@afspeellijstnaruto Ай бұрын
Im glad i only paid 45 euro's per deck. But i want more lhurgoyfs.
@ondrejbronec837
@ondrejbronec837 Ай бұрын
It seems to me like they had Life from the Loam in some version of the deck and then forgotten to change it. With Life the mana base actually seems reasonable (cycle lands are insane with it), but now it just seems random and bad. I will personally still buy the deck and loam is my first addition (as well as switching to the backup commander).
@MrEbilly20
@MrEbilly20 Ай бұрын
I bought this deck. I played it three times right out of the box and loved it. Won one game out of the three. I can’t wait to upgrade it.
@Chewy0836445
@Chewy0836445 Ай бұрын
Technically, tarmoghoyf should be in the precon has 1 of the 10 tokens. It will probably be a dual token card though, so but a colored sleeve
@PALIGames
@PALIGames Ай бұрын
Im going to try to make the goyf deck on principle i think basically using every goyf and changeling cards with a lot of self mill cards could be good if the commander sticks. But a horrible precon 😅
@zakkuk8694
@zakkuk8694 Ай бұрын
I'm super stoked for this deck actually. Slap in the lurgoyfs that're missing, put in some more self mill and a few of the missing card types, and play the deck casually. It'll be fun.
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 Ай бұрын
125 dollars for a deck that needs like 20 upgrades PLUS a new landbase to then play casualy sounds horrible.
@jessewinter5826
@jessewinter5826 Ай бұрын
Sure you could, but you're almost better off buying the singles than buying the deck and trying to upgrade.
@therealmerf
@therealmerf Ай бұрын
@@jessewinter5826 proxy from now on.
@user-tc9fn9ux2u
@user-tc9fn9ux2u Ай бұрын
@@questionyourself718 45 Euros here in Europe.
@questionyourself718
@questionyourself718 Ай бұрын
@@user-tc9fn9ux2u were? Not in germany.
@MareczqZglos
@MareczqZglos Ай бұрын
I dont get it to... Thye just needed to put more changlings here, add 2-3 more Goyfs (even the OG Modern - that really is now not wroth a lot of $) and cards that tutor creatures in to grave. With commander in play, any tutor to grave = tutor to battlefield any GOYF !!! That wold be at least FUN ... and still not broken, becose Goyfs are generaly bad in commnader :P We need more way to give trample too - what i will do with 3-4 goyfs taht are 5/6 when i cannot pass the 1/1 army ? The mana base is TRAGIC - its not even bad... its 15 TAP LANDS , and 4 lands that are "semi-tap" lands (the two basic duals, and the new Landscape will not alwasy be untap lands if you need color). Its a more exepsive precon , they just shoud add here Fabled Passage and Prismatic Vista - and it would be not crazy (thye give the same or even better lands in the LAND pre-con). On top of that why Urza's Cave is not here :P
@unusuallycloudy
@unusuallycloudy Ай бұрын
At this point complaining about the land bases in Commander products is a meme. Of course it is going to be standard and basic.
@TaunaMTG
@TaunaMTG Ай бұрын
There's been way better land bases before though. I'm not asking for miracles here
@ThePhoenixPaladin
@ThePhoenixPaladin Ай бұрын
​@TaunaMTG we got spoiled with the fallout precons
@overlordtrey64
@overlordtrey64 Ай бұрын
Disappointed yeah, but I'll still be getting it and upgrading it. Leaning into the goyfs, getting the ones the deck is missing, stuff like buried alive and reanimate. Making sneaking in a combo
@dachivale5319
@dachivale5319 Ай бұрын
Wondering, what combo were you thinking of including?
@overlordtrey64
@overlordtrey64 Ай бұрын
​@dachivale5319 Void Maw combos with the commander if you have a free sac outlet. So with something to benefit from a creature dying or entering the battlefield you win.
@federico8631
@federico8631 Ай бұрын
Tbh i don't care of Goyfs i will just swap with the second(and definetly stronger) commander and create a full graveyard/sacrifice/self mill inferno
@user-qw3oh3dx1o
@user-qw3oh3dx1o Ай бұрын
This deck just saved me 16 bucks on a reaver cleaver 🤣
@leonfriedemann9151
@leonfriedemann9151 Ай бұрын
I really somehow expected a greater good reprint ... Orignal tarmogoyf would have been nice too and the mana base yeah .... Just sad stil thinkin about since some value is in it and i like the trynax and borrowgoyf ... The other new cards maybe the 3ple goyf is allright ... don't know ... The spoiling was awful btw there are at least a couple german mtg tubers that would have deserved it more and would have made a great video with it!!!!!
@Solus3D
@Solus3D Ай бұрын
They don't include enoung goyfs or cards like Buried alive.
@scottganiere523
@scottganiere523 Ай бұрын
Just buy the goyfs
@dachivale5319
@dachivale5319 Ай бұрын
Agreed and someone was still defending the deck, because Wizards did not flat out state it was a Goyf deck, but the theme was a Graveyard deck. But even that is not accurate. Because really what cards are in there that say, graveyard theme. There are no cards like Burried Alive for example to really support this idea. The reprints feel very random and disjointed, like the deck has an identity crisis. The mana base is horrible. Don't get me wrong, there are some pretty nice reprints, but they don't really fit in this deck. What is Selvala doing here or Reaver Cleaver for example.
@ThePhoenixPaladin
@ThePhoenixPaladin Ай бұрын
They're busted with coram
@dachivale5319
@dachivale5319 Ай бұрын
@@ThePhoenixPaladin wel that might be true. Though his power wont be that big in the Precon I imagine, because the biggest creatures are like 6 power.
@patrickmcathey7081
@patrickmcathey7081 Ай бұрын
Kinda funny the goyf deck doest have goyf in it. I don't think I have or ever will see a good mana base in a precons, wotc hates giving good mana fixing
@renan3381
@renan3381 Ай бұрын
This was Wizards' chance to reprint the old Lhurgoyf and thus put more in this deck.....it's a shame they did that
@SwagMaster824
@SwagMaster824 Ай бұрын
Might as well wait for this deck to go down in price to like $45 to buy it
@The_Dying_Rose
@The_Dying_Rose Ай бұрын
It's 48 bucks now, I'm picking it up to work on making a Coram deck and upgrading my Slimefoot & Squee deck. Coram is a pretty good commander and I've already got a lot of stuff to work with him.
@ThePhoenixPaladin
@ThePhoenixPaladin Ай бұрын
This deck has plenty of value. The issue is the face card lured ppl into believing this was going to be a goyf tribal deck when it isn't. Coram, gluttonous hellkite and infested thirnax are absurd. Selvala and reaver cleaver are great reprints with coram. Garruk apex is an odd choice. The mana base is really the biggest con, but only an issue for new players
@Ger0nimo76
@Ger0nimo76 Ай бұрын
I'm rather disappointed too...some nice reprints, but I don't understand what the deck wants to do. Mana base is terrible.
@Szayek
@Szayek Ай бұрын
The fact that half of the "new cards" of the deck don't do anything remotely close to what any of the commanders want to do is laughable. Most of the deck don't do anything that the commanders want to do, manabase is utter trash, not even painlands is a spit in the face... not to mention that the others precons got a lot of support in the main set, meanwhile this deck... I was so hyped and is by far the worst precon...
@MAGWAII
@MAGWAII Ай бұрын
I was excited but They did a horrible, horrible job with this one. It was such a cool idea and on theme but they took the junk theme too literally. This deck looks like a mess. Where are the goyfs, are you kidding me.
@ondrejbronec837
@ondrejbronec837 Ай бұрын
Worst thing is that they have all of them. OG Tarmogoyf and Changeling Colossus are the only real omissions. In total there is only 13 Lhurgoyfs in these colors which include stuff like Magnivore which will often just be a 4 mana 1/1. The deck really needed the new Goyfs to be pushed and they are not unfortunately.
@Koresh5610
@Koresh5610 Ай бұрын
Instead of the dragons they should have made more goyfs... there are only 13 Goyfs in that color ... you cant even build a tribe Deck around that! ... waste Potential :(
@toddpacker1015
@toddpacker1015 Ай бұрын
Jund Boomer Deck
@thenewlollipopjam8248
@thenewlollipopjam8248 Ай бұрын
How disappointing.
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