“Great buildings express their true essence to the world.” | Architect Bjarke Ingels

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Louisiana Channel

6 жыл бұрын

“Great buildings blatantly express their true essence to the world.” The lauded Danish architect Bjarke Ingels here shares his personal story and his bold approach to architecture, which he feels should always be playful, generous and empathetic.
Having nurtured a love of drawing since childhood, 18-year-old Ingels enrolled into The Royal Danish Academy of Fine Arts School of Architecture in 1993, feeling that architecture would be “the perfect missing piece to be able to really draw worlds and populate those worlds.” The school, however, proved to be a very conservative institution where there was hardly any curriculum due to the idea that everything had to be original. In response to this, Ingels and a friend ended up spending their first years in the library, seeking inspiration from other architects such as Frank Gehry, Zaha Hadid and Rem Koolhaas: “You find something that speaks to you, and then you try to understand it, by following its sources, and those sources have other sources, and at some point, things connect.” In continuation of this, Ingels feels that the ideas that you put forward and the new ideas they produce are essential for architecture: “Not only does the building you make matter, but the example it puts out in the world matters maybe even more.”
When Ingels returned to Denmark after a couple of years working for Rem Koolhaas in Holland, it was with a slightly more bold approach than other Danish architects, who seemed to have lost their confidence and sense of experimentation following the failure of modernism in the 1970s. Instead of engaging with the issues of society, it was suddenly more about “making a really nice box and finding the perfect cherry wood for that box.” Ingels, however, dared “to play” and emphasizes the importance of playing, which he sees as a sort of “non-scripted form of human expression that opens for discovery.” The ideas that you put forward and the new ideas they produce are essential for architecture: “Not only does the building you make matter, but the example it puts out in the world matters maybe even more.”
How does a building remain relevant? Ingels feels that if a building has qualities that go beyond executing its original intentions, it’s possible to repurpose it, and if it is used continuously, it can potentially last forever. As an example, the pyramids turned to ruin, because they weren’t in use anymore, whereas buildings on e.g. the Faeroe Islands have wooden buildings that have lasted half a millennium, as they have been in constant use and therefore been cared for. Architecture is “a framework for the life we live.” However, it shouldn't simply be a checklist, it has to be able to transform to accommodate different situations and enable people rather than restrict them. In continuation of this, Ingels argues that the “superpower” of contemporary architecture is empathy: “To accommodate people - different kinds of people - you have to be able to understand and empathize with them.”
“The pen and the paper is a tool to make the world see what you see, or for you to see what you think before you’ve even seen it. And there are other tools for doing that.” Ingels feels that the different mediums that architects use when visualizing a building - such as foam models, 3D models, projection drawings or LEGO bricks - are all “different ways of approaching the same problem from different angles.”
Bjarke Ingels (b. 1974) is a Danish architect and founding partner of BIG - Bjarke Ingels Group - located in Copenhagen, New York and London. In 2013 BIG was chosen to redesign the Smithsonian, the world’s largest museum and research complex in Washington, a project which will be implemented over a period of 20 years. His projects include The Mountain, a residential complex in Copenhagen, and the innovative Danish Maritime Museum in Elsinore. In 2004 he received the Golden Lion at the Venice Biennale and the Danish Crown Prince’s Culture Prize in 2011. Moreover, BIG received the Architizer’s Firm of the Year Award in 2014.
Bjarke Ingels was interviewed by Marc-Christoph Wagner in New York in October 2016.
Footage of Bjarke Ingels drawing: From ‘Architecture should be more like Minecraft’, courtesy of Future of StoryTelling.
Camera: Rasmus Quistgaard
Edited by: Klaus Elmer
Produced by: Marc-Christoph Wagner
Copyright: Louisiana Channel, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, 2017
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@thelouisianachannel
@thelouisianachannel 3 жыл бұрын
*Get inspired by Bjarke Ingels' advice to young architects right here:* kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bt99rb2optq-gqs.html
@dansaber8435
@dansaber8435 2 жыл бұрын
The World Trade Center looks like a stretched- out merkaba doesn't it?
@sabrettinyigit1197
@sabrettinyigit1197 3 жыл бұрын
Love this guy..reminds me why i studied architecture..he speaks fully by my heart
@IMatthew26
@IMatthew26 3 жыл бұрын
"Empathy is one of the greatest superpower......." Well said
@akibmahdi9987
@akibmahdi9987 3 жыл бұрын
"If we have the power to radically change our planet by accident, imagine what we can do if we are doing it willingly"
@daprovocateur
@daprovocateur Жыл бұрын
His presentation of the 8 House - manipulating space to show design - has remained one of my most watched videos. How you share your ideas can be as important as the ideas themselves.
@JorisTillmans
@JorisTillmans 4 жыл бұрын
Super inspiring. Incredible choice of words, especially for a person with a non English background.
@dr-k1667
@dr-k1667 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to have discovered this architect and look forward to discovering his work and following his career. Thank you for posting this interview.
@albewillbuild
@albewillbuild 6 жыл бұрын
Empathy is the greatest power that you can possess as a human being. There is strength in understanding an opposition. There is great power in patiently understanding the cries of a small child. There is strength in understanding the feelings of a woman. The most important form of empathy is the uninhibited understanding of yourself and how you can apply that power to benefit the world. This documentary was thoughtful and well produced. Thank you very much for creating it.
@TheAbhi2112
@TheAbhi2112 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing this..!
@genetung8590
@genetung8590 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Emphatically yes. However, all is not good and the fight to overcome the evil is a never ending struggle. This is a fight that requires broad and committed strokes where empathy and humanity may be at times sacrificed for this greater good. This is happening NOW.
@ronaldnapoleon5225
@ronaldnapoleon5225 5 жыл бұрын
i was actually moved by what he said, very interesting for this generation of very ectreme and one sided thinking.
@Rafiq_Khawreen
@Rafiq_Khawreen Жыл бұрын
While watching him talking and pausing, and looking for proper words, I couldn't help thinking what if he were a philosopher? The way he speaks requires a very deep focus and ignoring the surrounding while diving into the deep ocean of your own thoughts and opinions. I have studied Political Science, and the reason I watched this interview was for the exceptional ability to speak I saw in this amazing guy.
@d.r.4640
@d.r.4640 4 жыл бұрын
Really, really good. I particularly enjoyed the clarity and depth of thoughts and the logical arguments - great!
@studiocurtis
@studiocurtis 6 жыл бұрын
A brilliant mind and a compassionate heart... a great combination. I'm grateful to see that his approach is succeeding in the architecture world. I appreciate his emphasis on empathy and his definition of architecture: "The art and science of accommodation."
@chenthurraaghav459
@chenthurraaghav459 4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrKWiLBlvqvXj3U.html How to design responsive architecture
@vitof.4626
@vitof.4626 Жыл бұрын
I am so happy, that he achieved his mission to make every roof usable. Who of us do Not have this swears to ourself, what we are going to make when we grow up.
@jojomoman
@jojomoman 6 жыл бұрын
Scandinavian grasp of my language always impresses me. They speak it somewhat differently than I, however never sound foreign. It feels like english is something we share rather than something they borrowed.
@doodleyourexampaper7995
@doodleyourexampaper7995 3 жыл бұрын
if you tried to learn more about languages, you'd understand that english has more similarities to Scandinavian languages than maybe Arabic or Korean.
@vicbuehler9428
@vicbuehler9428 6 жыл бұрын
Bjark, very profound comment at @ 29:00 that "buildings (substantial) should outlast their original purpose", thus be able to be re-purposed" for a future function, that is so true. It's what I deal with every day. Good bones with a good core. IBC, ADA done, established?
@jamespatrickgrennan
@jamespatrickgrennan 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Completely self thought and now single handedly changing the discourse of architecture and teaching everybody that you can be so innovative and daring as to design the potential to walk or ski on roofs. All this genius in one man, and yet he is so humble and modest. What a brilliant person. Thanks so much for all you've done for architecture Bjarke.
@prashantm4834
@prashantm4834 5 жыл бұрын
4:23 Frustrated, Curious, Became Passionate about architecture... I guess most of Architecture community experience that 😊
@stevecooper3010
@stevecooper3010 3 жыл бұрын
You are bringing some great interviews, with some amazing minds, Louisiana. Thanks
@aybigetek
@aybigetek 3 жыл бұрын
He is pure.
@AFOLABITIMI
@AFOLABITIMI 6 жыл бұрын
Architecture ought not be a checklist.... taking this home
@elagregore
@elagregore 5 жыл бұрын
made me realize sooo many things in life and architecture
@rishavsankrityayan3749
@rishavsankrityayan3749 5 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff. A ton of things to learn from the legend Bjarke Ingels. I wish if i could ever meet you. @BjarkeIngels
@leiyang2445
@leiyang2445 6 жыл бұрын
Bjarke gives us a good answer to solve the big problem that nobody is going to commission you to do a building before you already build a building.
@michaelburgess9707
@michaelburgess9707 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful man, stunning architecture.
@zhangeldykaupynbayev4619
@zhangeldykaupynbayev4619 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible. Really​ really bright
@liebingf
@liebingf 5 жыл бұрын
I am really happy about this content,- very interesting thoughts and facts here. 💡⭐️✌🏻
@MohsinMirza
@MohsinMirza 4 жыл бұрын
"Pragmatic Utopian Architecture" , Philosophy of Bjarke Ingels!
@robertbeckman6362
@robertbeckman6362 6 жыл бұрын
Extremely well done.
@urasg2613
@urasg2613 4 жыл бұрын
You can understand that he is actually considering a very wide range of topics when approaching his work: like environment, demographics, politics, science and language and many more, that have something to do with the people that inhabit his projects. That really takes to be curious about those things and take time to research them and be active in daily life.
@melissah6235
@melissah6235 3 жыл бұрын
36:28 "front paws" love it
@zedreiter
@zedreiter 4 жыл бұрын
If someone would make a list with links to the readings that he mentioned, that would be helpful
@tommyhf.l7880
@tommyhf.l7880 2 жыл бұрын
This was so motivational, I know what I have to do
@roman2011
@roman2011 5 жыл бұрын
Love it. So inspirational
@Sheilafilosofiamusic
@Sheilafilosofiamusic 4 жыл бұрын
I love this architect...!
@ai-man212
@ai-man212 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like his education was like me surfing KZfaq. Just finding out how to do it yourself. Proving that the entire education system is outdated. Instead of teachers, just mentors you can call up and Skype. Instead of tuition just tests to certify you. Open source curricula etc.
@bmates5167
@bmates5167 4 жыл бұрын
Great lessons from a great mind. Thank you for this.
@Dev1nci
@Dev1nci Жыл бұрын
24:44 I call this type of design ‘Brief Engineering’. It’s a classic Koolhaas strategy where you set up requirements for the building such that the outcome will yield an evocative design. This strategy allows the architect to claim that he is a functionalist. It can be effective however the pit-fall is that it can cost a city at the urban scale because the outcome will almost always be aggressively different to the context. This can be fine if the function of the building suggests communal landmark such as a library, however if the function is residential block, you have to ask the question- should someone’s home suggest landmark on an urban scale seeing as it is functionally, a landmark for relatively small numbers of city users.
@Jamesp1972
@Jamesp1972 2 жыл бұрын
Somebody worth admiration
@augustoiglesias7468
@augustoiglesias7468 Жыл бұрын
Love it, buildings may not be scalable, but ideas are!
@heenakewalramani5310
@heenakewalramani5310 6 жыл бұрын
Inspiring!!!
@vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906
@vaiyaktikasolarbeam1906 3 жыл бұрын
he is... amazing
@milesagha7582
@milesagha7582 6 жыл бұрын
Bjarke Engel is a freaking GENIUS, well done sir I am a fan of your work
@dannysze8183
@dannysze8183 5 жыл бұрын
He is definitely not a genius but he is a good salesman. If you talk about genius, Norman Foster achieve far greater in scale and in depth than Bjarke Engel. If you talks about depth, Mies Van Der Rohe, Frank Lloyd Wright or Louis Kahn should be someone to look up to.
@ratan4692
@ratan4692 5 жыл бұрын
@@dannysze8183 Doesnt mean he is not a genius
@dannysze8183
@dannysze8183 5 жыл бұрын
@@ratan4692 You do not understand what is architecture.
@ratan4692
@ratan4692 5 жыл бұрын
@@dannysze8183 Yeah. Sure 😂😂😂
@euniceslanwa
@euniceslanwa 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannysze8183 lol in years to come, your kids will think of him the same way you think of Wright and van der Rohe. Each generation has its geniuses. He's paving the way for the future of architecture, stop being so stuck in the past or limiting your view of ingenuity
@mxrty78
@mxrty78 6 жыл бұрын
impressive guy i like his mind
@mattkim2890
@mattkim2890 2 жыл бұрын
As he mentioned understanding other people, despite you do not agree is the power to success.
@rmontena4583
@rmontena4583 6 жыл бұрын
superb!
@syukridesa
@syukridesa 5 жыл бұрын
When Jason Bourne become a architect
@elmirasmiscellaneous1129
@elmirasmiscellaneous1129 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@sanketsarvaiya9705
@sanketsarvaiya9705 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pyesd7316
@pyesd7316 4 жыл бұрын
Love this guy
@sarkiss6569
@sarkiss6569 3 жыл бұрын
A driven man with broadminded views who conveys a level- headed understanding of the total picture although I don’t believe it translates that seamlessly well in the overhyped architecture he does along with his team of professionals - its basically good modern architecture with a certain twist. Also he seems enjoying the business side of architecture to a significant amount added that his appearance and personal charm combined with the great connections surely serves him well in current architecture industry. 😌
@sarkiss6569
@sarkiss6569 3 жыл бұрын
Anyways if another architect would have a similar mindset to his but a different ethnicity I would assume with high probability that he/she would barely be taken seriously or even be given a fraction of the platform and the plethora of opportunities the media and the architecture community has bestowed on this being.
@beccareynolds4625
@beccareynolds4625 6 жыл бұрын
Oh my God!! I'm in love!!
@canweng5546
@canweng5546 6 жыл бұрын
wonderful
@thejatsukru5352
@thejatsukru5352 5 жыл бұрын
wow just wow
@zheenahaydari5145
@zheenahaydari5145 4 жыл бұрын
32:50 im from erbil/ kurdistan, in love with all your works i always make presentations about your projects in school 😁 you’re such an inspiration THANK YOU
@conversacionesconmipadre
@conversacionesconmipadre 4 жыл бұрын
Talk about a person that has it all: youth, beauty, intelligence, a great family, having born in one of the best countries in the world, incredible talent and genius. He also was born in the right era to being able to build this kind of modern buildings. (and also super-rich).
@user-us9sv7gc7t
@user-us9sv7gc7t 5 жыл бұрын
멋진 영상 잘 보고 갑니다.^^
@priyabukte
@priyabukte 6 жыл бұрын
Elon Musk and Bjarke Ingels would make an amazing team!!
@gabhub920
@gabhub920 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, those two are my heroes
@iagoeu73
@iagoeu73 6 жыл бұрын
Thought about that the moment I knew about this guy!
@palzer023
@palzer023 6 жыл бұрын
they already are! check Hyperloop projects!
@filoflin5345
@filoflin5345 5 жыл бұрын
this can only be said be a first or second semester student who just learned about them.
@TheJoddy12
@TheJoddy12 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think elon is good point guard
@blackwhite4099
@blackwhite4099 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite
@arcachata4137
@arcachata4137 4 жыл бұрын
I think 6:18 was his way of saying, "stupid question, bro."
@ronaldnapoleon5225
@ronaldnapoleon5225 5 жыл бұрын
wow inspiring
@honestlyna
@honestlyna 4 жыл бұрын
43:23 What an infectious laugh!
@tsos4957
@tsos4957 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to play Minecraft with him
@gregorylent
@gregorylent 6 жыл бұрын
wow, great mind
@user-pw8gl2fz5i
@user-pw8gl2fz5i 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. ..verynicetomy special someone
@tomcologner1943
@tomcologner1943 6 жыл бұрын
Mix feelings but I definitely adore you infinitely!!! Hope to shake your hand one day
@kimm.8718
@kimm.8718 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious. Why are your feelings mixed?
@leeanucha
@leeanucha 5 жыл бұрын
i was good at drawing to and then i forgot about until i am now 42 and regretting not be working in the art field. it’s too late now i cannot go back.
@mmjnice97
@mmjnice97 5 жыл бұрын
Its never to late to follow your dreams.
@dhabstudio
@dhabstudio 4 жыл бұрын
you can. architects are late bloomers (thats what i have heared). Geoffrey Manning Bawa, you can search about him.
@arpitranka23
@arpitranka23 6 жыл бұрын
Genius!
@parathink
@parathink 6 жыл бұрын
Density in Midtown Manhattan is a nightmare. Architects are contributing to this catastrophe. I wonder what Jane Jacobs would have to say about the Hudson Yards.
@Jay-jq6bl
@Jay-jq6bl 6 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, are you advocating sprawl?
@Boleh888
@Boleh888 2 жыл бұрын
The functionality is the keyword for the buildings will last forever...
@guilloguerra3094
@guilloguerra3094 4 жыл бұрын
what architect he named at min 13:23 that works with calatrava and zaha
@mitchelvrolijk2060
@mitchelvrolijk2060 3 жыл бұрын
Ben van Berkel
@ivonnedmonsalve5977
@ivonnedmonsalve5977 4 жыл бұрын
29:00 my currently question: how/can a building survive through the years?
@maurodelossantos6848
@maurodelossantos6848 6 жыл бұрын
minute 6:19, ur welcome.
@kazoosc
@kazoosc 5 жыл бұрын
that he makes a momentary weird face is the least important of this interview
@CHMZ366
@CHMZ366 5 жыл бұрын
@@kazoosc WHY SO SERIOUS? HAHA
@felipeparedes8861
@felipeparedes8861 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@minjieliang5603
@minjieliang5603 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@user-ou3tu2uh7j
@user-ou3tu2uh7j 4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@EmakhosiniSiyakhuleka
@EmakhosiniSiyakhuleka 5 жыл бұрын
DOPE!
@architexture4344
@architexture4344 5 жыл бұрын
great
@anarchoarchitect5192
@anarchoarchitect5192 5 жыл бұрын
6:18 Somebody clip this LOL
@reviveproject
@reviveproject 4 жыл бұрын
loool
@jackhubert
@jackhubert 2 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion what architecture schooling has lost, and what most architects of today have failed to learn is this: what is beautiful. Does the design call forth our best? Does it emotionally elevate the humans who see and interact with it? This is a pillar for designing single-family homes, multi family development, religious institutions, government institutions, and communal/civic spaces. European architects of the 16th-19th centuries understood this well. I suppose we could use more masons, stone cutters, carpenters, and other craftsmen, that useless 4 year degrees?
@sibam_debnath
@sibam_debnath 3 жыл бұрын
That ghy interesting,,,
@welwro7170
@welwro7170 3 жыл бұрын
Super! Zobacz też: poradnikinzyniera.pl/obowiazek-podatkowy-w-vat-dla-uslug-budowlanych/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/dach-platwiowo-kleszczowy/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/porownanie-ceramiki-budowlanej/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/stropodach/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/izolacja-termiczna-poddasza/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/folie-i-membrany-wstepnego-krycia/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/rodzaje-izolacji-polaci-dachowych/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/charakterystyki-geometryczne-figur-plaskich/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/wskaznik-intensywnosci-zabudowy/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/kratownice-budowa-statyka-i-wyznaczalnosc/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/krycie-dachu-papa/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/pokrycia-papowe-cz-2-pokrycia-jedno-dwuwarstwowe/ poradnikinzyniera.pl/pokrycia-papowe-wentylowane/
@tomaszdudek5042
@tomaszdudek5042 6 жыл бұрын
Can anybody write for me the name of a mentioned architect at 13:50?
@kylesantilli3738
@kylesantilli3738 6 жыл бұрын
Alejandro Zaera Polo of AZP and formerly FOA
@studiocurtis
@studiocurtis 6 жыл бұрын
Rem Koolhass: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rem_Koolhaas
@studiocurtis
@studiocurtis 6 жыл бұрын
I just did a search. El Croquis #72 is a book on Ben Van Berkel.
@keshavborana7323
@keshavborana7323 5 жыл бұрын
👌👌🙂😊
@timurfayzullaev1561
@timurfayzullaev1561 6 жыл бұрын
cool guy!
@harryrammer
@harryrammer 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating mind...but who affords all of these structures?
@ashrafalam1618
@ashrafalam1618 3 жыл бұрын
@ 06:19
@arianindie
@arianindie 4 жыл бұрын
6:18 😂😂😂
@maciekm0007
@maciekm0007 6 жыл бұрын
Not extremely dynamic document :)
@jetuarintt870
@jetuarintt870 Жыл бұрын
"Evey Architect wants to change the world, even without Client consent.
@miguelsantana6925
@miguelsantana6925 3 жыл бұрын
6:17 whohowhohowhohoh
@melaniamonicacraciun9900
@melaniamonicacraciun9900 2 жыл бұрын
Computer simulations could help you imagine how to use buildings as best anti smog shields, make them work like trees, give them a green coat, made of veggies or bushes, enough tiny to stay safe in kinetic moving windows balconies or outside walls, lets save the planet together fans
@radarh7910
@radarh7910 3 жыл бұрын
He steel have a eyes of child :)
@carloplayz3628
@carloplayz3628 Жыл бұрын
Ok
@voidproductions669
@voidproductions669 4 жыл бұрын
Different Ingles
@ramadhaniksan5841
@ramadhaniksan5841 2 жыл бұрын
Please translate to indonesia.. 😊😊
@diogocapelo6598
@diogocapelo6598 5 жыл бұрын
vaidades...e pouca consciencia
@flowerchild630
@flowerchild630 5 жыл бұрын
he looks like LIAM PAYNE
@jesseyoung9654
@jesseyoung9654 5 жыл бұрын
We don't call bicycle lanes in Sydney and Melbourne "Copenhagen Lanes". We call them a monumental waste of time and money that are making our major cities even more congested.
@johnnylee8194
@johnnylee8194 4 жыл бұрын
many confused people throw around false equivalency by comparing pritzker prize to nobel prize. pritzker prize is just a vanity project and is a branding effort for wealthy pritzker family name. moreover, the prize committee is composed of mostly random buffoons who have not knowledge of building design and hence the prizes has no credibility. its akin to trash collector in nobel award selection committee making award for physics. architecture is a more a humanities degree than anything. most top tier us college or university do not offer this degree for a reason. harvard graduate design school has lot of people from second, third rate undergraduate schools because most kid smart enough to get into top tier schools are too intelligent to get into this non technical profession.
@SonicPhonic
@SonicPhonic 5 жыл бұрын
Ingels is somewhat arrogant in claiming that Ghery and Wright only built a couple-hundred buildings and haven't made much of an impact, because Wright revolutionized American architecture. Ghery's influence has revolutionized Bilbao and people travel from all over the world to see his creations.
@edwinstar100
@edwinstar100 2 жыл бұрын
Fix the new Vancouver House, its not just about interesting design it has to be built with your oversight. Pissed off
@productiveaccountproductiv9400
@productiveaccountproductiv9400 5 жыл бұрын
Bjarke Ingels? More like Bizzare Angles.. I’ll go now
@shzaka
@shzaka 6 жыл бұрын
art and science of accomodation???? his last two buildings in new york city cater to the super rich. an apartment in any of them are out of the income range of middle class new yorkers. where's the empathy?
@saisiddarth1576
@saisiddarth1576 6 жыл бұрын
Shzamir Garcia but its still accommodating tho. What's your point? Do you really think an L.I.G housing can fit right in the middle of the Downtown Manhattan Skyline? That'd be preposterous I think
@pierrekaufman5175
@pierrekaufman5175 5 жыл бұрын
market prices is not something he controls...
@diogocapelo6598
@diogocapelo6598 5 жыл бұрын
cockalorum!!!!!!!
@emielwolfs3294
@emielwolfs3294 4 жыл бұрын
saaai
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