Great Lakes Freighter Loses Control on the St. Clair River

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2 жыл бұрын

Bulk carrier Wilfred Sykes had some scary moments on November 25, 2021, when mechanical failure caused it to lose steering as it approached the Blue Water Bridge in Port Huron, Michigan. After dropping anchor to prevent it from colliding with the seawall near the US Coast Guard station and the Dunn Paper plant, the freighter was towed to safety by the Manitou. It happened on Thanksgiving, and we're grateful that no one was injured.
Special thanks to Genny for capturing the video!

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@zubrickadvisors6742 2 жыл бұрын

It's all about the anchor. That is what spun her around so fast. Having that anchor ready for just that emergency is always the plan when entering any channel. Kudos to the Captain and crew for their readiness. When things go sideways, it is all about muscle memory and situations rehearsed a thousand times. Excellent work. And she's a steamship.....can't go in reverse immediately, no controllable pitch propeller has she! Again, excellent work. Just beautiful to watch the professionalism. Wow. Can't wait to read about it in Professional Mariner magazine. Awesome, from one sailor to another, well done!

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

@dar6095 2 жыл бұрын

Spoken by a true sailor. ARrrg !

@TOTALCAMARO 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining about the anchor. I just couldn’t picture how it went down. Now I understand why she spun around so fast. I love learning all about these gentle giants. Especially this old girl. Great captain and crew.

@WAL_DC-6B 2 жыл бұрын

The Wilfred Sykes was originally built for Inland Steel and began service hauling iron ore in 1950 (launched at the American Ship Building Company's Lorain, OH shipyard on June 28, 1949). Nice to see she's still around AND still in one piece after this close call! Thanks for sharing!

@OdeeOz 2 жыл бұрын

*Takes a great Captain, to react that efficiently and quickly to an eminent disaster.*

@jivepatrol6833 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the Captain and crew reacted quickly and efficiently to avoid issues! Great job and hopefully the repairs are completed in a timely manner! 🙂👍

@jackcowles4204 2 жыл бұрын

I remember when I was a kid in the summer of 1967 and a ship lost power at the same location and got sucked into the current under the bridge and collided with a ship docked at the former Peerless Cement Plant under the bridge on the American side . The ship sunk. We rode our bikes down there and walked up on the bridge to see. It was a big deal back then. It was the "Renvoyle" and the "Sylvania",

@erbewayne6868 2 жыл бұрын

That was the ss Sylvania. You can Google the incident.

@terised 2 жыл бұрын

If a ship is going to have a major malfunction, no better place to be than right next to a Coast Guard station.

@redsorgum 2 жыл бұрын

The best part of this video, is seeing the Canadian and American flags flying together. 👉🇺🇲 🇨🇦 👈👍

@karengeorge5812 2 жыл бұрын

Yes awesome!!!!!

@travismiles5885 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! I grew up in Port Huron but live in NC now and watch the stream everyday. I try and explain to my colleagues about the freighters and the currents around the bridge but just watching the water flow by doesn't show the full picture. Watching how the water just pushed that freighter around like a toy puts it in perspective. I'm glad everyone was safe and there was no damage. Cant wait to show my co-workers this video clip. Brave to the Captain as well! Does anyone remember when that freighter hit the wall in front of the Thomas Edison in? I think it was in the 80s sometime. I remember seeing it on the front page of the Times Herald but can't find anything online about it

@rushbuzzy 2 жыл бұрын

I recently saw a freighter turn around and go in reverse down the river, I assume for easier access to its destination dockage, but never saw it happen at the mouth of the river. Good job saving it, Capt.! Spookier at night!

@terryhogan2971 2 жыл бұрын

The Sarnia News Today reports that after losing steerage in a sharp turn to starboard that the Sykes dropped anchor but did not run aground. At 23:31:35-45, and it seems at the last second before running into the shore, there was an abrupt stop, fully loaded no less, then a rebound, and the stern swings around in the current, surprisingly fast. Thought at first the Sykes had run aground on the littoral drift sand bar just north of the entrance to the Coast Guard station, but at 23:37:50-38:40 the bow is moving starboard away from the Coast Guard station, so it was not aground then. Don't know how they could be so precise with the anchor. The bottom there is hard clay and the starboard anchor shows it had really dug in (downbound close-up of the anchor seen today at 08:04:20). Did not see any heavy chain scrapes on the hull. Paul Murray comments, "I was down there, and watched as she attempted to back off the sand bar several times, back 50 feet then forward 50 feet. And the Sykes on the marine radio called Sarnia Traffic and reported that they had marine salvage tugs coming to pull them free. And that they were checking all compartments for damage and water. After the call they lowered the starboard bow anchor." Actually, his video only shows anchor chain being paid out. Not clear when it was dropped. I suspect that they stopped the ship with the starboard anchor then paid out chain to get the bow south of the Coast Guard station entrance. Used the bow thruster to keep close to shore but so close they ran up on the sand bar south of the Coast Guard station. Guessing they then needed to be pulled free from that. Either way, the captain was brilliant with quick decisions that kept the ship safe from any damage.

@oceansoul3694 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you very much for this detailed explanation. Being in land-locked Colorado and knowing nothing about ships your comment is most welcome. This is an amazing video and I'm so glad none of the mariners were injured and the ship is intact. Whew! Thanks again

@jamesfrommanitoba.1992 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the terrific update.

@robhay57 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the explanation! Very much appreciated.

@HyperActive7 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds to me like the steering got flooded when they attempted the sharp turn and the quick wits of the captain knowing how to handle it and direct the crew to look for any hull damage is why you don't hear about this nationally.

@oceansoul3694 2 жыл бұрын

@@HyperActive7 Thank you for this information, very interesting to read thoughts about this from men who know about it. The media isn't interested in anything that's not blm or racism it seems, and it's such a shame that important stories like this one are ignored.

@greathornedowl3644 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video. Highlighted on Duluth Harbor Cam chatline. Wow, to lose steering that behemoth mass. Like truck sliding down icy roads (Minnesota January-February) having No Control.

@LadyVineXIII 2 жыл бұрын

Thank good ness for quick thinking and a strong anchor. I'm glad that everyone is alright.

@blackhawks81H 2 жыл бұрын

Woo. Manitou on the scene with no time wasted.. Good that she was relatively close by, that's a big girl, tugboat wise. I like how the coast guard eventually shows up in what looks like a 40 footer.. "We're helping too!" lol I'm just joking though. The coasties are ALWAYS there when we need them. Any time, any weather.

@TOTALCAMARO 2 жыл бұрын

Great job captain and crew. That’s what I call team work with the tugs also.

@dperson6557 2 жыл бұрын

I think the crew heard the gift shop at the old light house was really nice so they pulled in to give it a look. 😅😅😅 Seriously glad everyone was okay, The Shore, Ship, and Crew. These things happen around this time of year.

@rascal0175 2 жыл бұрын

I did not expect to see that in my lifetime. Almost unbelievable.

@grantdubridge7995 2 жыл бұрын

See what, a ship pull up to dock to unload?

@aspiceronni4462 2 жыл бұрын

Oh shit that's the Sykes too!! Glad she is ok.

@terrythebusdriver4912 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve looked at this video on my phone and on my TV. IMO, whoever was at the controls did an amazing job and quite possibly saved the ship as well as the bridge. Things happen quickly and solid experience as well as training keep incidents like this from becoming catastrophic in mere seconds. Job well done as well as to the Manitou.

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

As live streams were going off , captain got no credit at the time only myself actually.. I've sailed all the lakes and locks and captains skill first came to mind , thanks for the tribute to the captain., i believe the sykes was out in the weather on November 10th , 1975 as her legend has another chapter !!

@feliciascott6874 2 жыл бұрын

That had to be a real pucker-up moment on the bridge. Glad she made it to dock without damages.

@Nighthawke70 2 жыл бұрын

Sharp handling of the gear saved a seawall and perhaps a bridge. Someone and maybe the entire crew is going to get a commendation for their actions on this night.

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely.. well said !!

@SilentEcho9194 2 жыл бұрын

👍I agree

@jstoli996c4s 2 жыл бұрын

The bridge towers are on land, so probably no danger for the bridge. But the seawall would have taken a beating for sure.

@TheUnflushedToilet 2 жыл бұрын

That's the second time the Sykes made an interesting entrance into PH

@billmiller1253 2 жыл бұрын

Thank The Manitou for being close by. Quick Reaction

@northernbettygirl 9 ай бұрын

That tug boat, the Manitou is small but mighty 🤗

@tubaishansol 6 ай бұрын

Manitou has an attitude, rightly so. She is a good lil boat.

@MegaSnow121 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it ended well. That looked rather scary.

@chuckmvs 2 жыл бұрын

You must respect the water at all times, and learn every day, 🚢

@armorer94 2 жыл бұрын

That's about 5 blocks from my house. Still, I was out of town and hadn't heard about it. Thanks!

@bernielomaxsmustache7204 2 жыл бұрын

Nobody cares!

@erbewayne6868 2 жыл бұрын

I care! It's about 10 blocks from my house.

@eviper67 2 жыл бұрын

I know it’s not what happened but it almost looks like that was a planned turn to get to the dock. Reminds you of the movie where car goes spinning and slides up to the curb. Great job by the crew!

@karen420able 2 жыл бұрын

There is no dock at that location

@eviper67 2 жыл бұрын

@@karen420able I didn’t think there was it just appeared like that was what was happing with the building in the foreground. Still great job by crew preventing something worse happening.

@lindaking9222 2 жыл бұрын

Lived in Sarnia for many years watched a lot of boats going under the bridge..very strong currents there…Port Huron & Sarnia are good friends

@bernielomaxsmustache7204 2 жыл бұрын

Called ships doofus

@erbewayne6868 2 жыл бұрын

I went to the greasy spoons down on Front st or Christina st for fish and chips and Pt Edward roller rink many years ago.

@lindaking9222 2 жыл бұрын

Of course they called ships…but there were also many private “pleasure boats” going under the bridge also….no need to be impolite

@lindaking9222 2 жыл бұрын

@@erbewayne6868 there is still a French fry truck under the bridge

@rascal0175 2 жыл бұрын

I grew up along that river. It is dangerous and not to be underestimated.

@sailorgabbie 2 жыл бұрын

These situations can get ugly very fast. Been there done that. Was on a ship in a high traffic area and we lost propulsion due to momentary computer glitch! That is the bad side of automation

@timothyosborn1697 2 жыл бұрын

Holy cow! Brings up the 3 Cs I learned at McDonald's in the '70s.. Communication, Coordination and Cooperation

@ceejayhey8544 2 жыл бұрын

Shows how difficult this task can be.

@peterforget8296 2 жыл бұрын

Oops, seems they found some black ice and spin out. When they stopped fast then went backward must have been the time the anchor doug in the bottom. Good thing they have those e-brakes (anchors), eh.

@tubaishansol 6 ай бұрын

great video Genny

@duhitsspeedy12 Жыл бұрын

someone should edit this with the Tokyo drift sound. it'd be hip with the kids

@LadyMarie880 Жыл бұрын

I so love this video...

@devonrexcatz 2 жыл бұрын

You don't see that every day!

@tprdfh51 2 жыл бұрын

All the comments regarding the ship hitting the Blue Water Bridge...would be a good trick as the bridge spans the St. Clair River in its entirety.

@jonathanellsworth21 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the ship was loaded with between 20-30,000 tons (not sure exact number) of coal, plus the weight of the ship itself. If it had hit the shore right at the supports, that sea wall and support structure would not have held up to a direct impact by that much weight going that fast! Knife through butter

@jonathanellsworth21 2 жыл бұрын

Not likely, anyway

@tprdfh51 2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanellsworth21 the depth of the water at the point adjacent to the bridge piers (which are set back from the river to avoid damage from grounding freighters) is approximately 40'...Sykes fully loaded at this time of year draws about 28'...do the math.😊

@jonathanellsworth21 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, trying to do the math actually just for the heck of it, too many unknowns though. That left most column doesn’t look like it has much of a buffer but hard to say from just looking at the video. All depends on the conditions of the concrete, the speed and angle of the ship, all that stuff. Not enough information. I’m guessing the ship probably couldn’t take down the bridge but damage it enough to close it for awhile, probably. Kind of fun (in a morbid way) to try and figure it out, unfortunately not enough info just from a video!

@jonathanellsworth21 2 жыл бұрын

I will just say unstoppable force meets immovable object and leave it lol (Before someone inevitably beats that to death, it’s just a joke)

@neveldas 2 жыл бұрын

So happy it worked out!

@MitzvosGolem1 2 жыл бұрын

Wow awesome capitan ! No Bow thrusters single screw? he should get Admiral prize.. Good his anchor was all prepped and ready to deploy fast.

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

Funny .. on the chat rooms. Huron live stream cam and even duluth canal cam nobody mentioned captains skill and and had crew throw out an anchor to boot !! I did mention the captain several times on huron live stream as it unfolded and also canal cam Duluth, where it originally departed ( with coal i believe ) thanks for honorable mention , could've took out that bridge partially. Hell of a wind that night.

@MitzvosGolem1 2 жыл бұрын

@@douglashurd8652 most are clueless. I grew up on boats on Long Island worked smaller craft under 80ft and understand something about that. That great lake is no joke this time if years. Gales of November remember...

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

@@MitzvosGolem1 yup . sailed superior alot of years with crazy dad captain, even whacked whitefish shoals somehow , after roage wave snatched the dink eariler lol sailed all the way to fla . and one thing's for sure , the fresh water is so dense it will pound sub quality yachts to pieces , verses saltwater , our boat was built in holland for the north sea as my late father smartly did as we did sail lake superior quite extensively, long island area is dangerous and scarey if your not ready lol . Hudson river actually pretty crazy waves lol .

@MitzvosGolem1 2 жыл бұрын

@@douglashurd8652 nice. I was worrying he would hit entrance jetty rocks and split ship in half sinking blocking that inlet for weeks months even .

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

@@MitzvosGolem1 those lakers are pretty well built and thick hulled , that particular spot is really really busy, they'd probably come up with some serious removal there quite quick , with the amount of coal that goes through there and iron ore , but crazy things can evolve . I know there's some stories there on the st.clair river , there's quite a current, i remember by Detroit as we chased a fender we dropped and nearly self destructed in current going towards a bridge going to belle isle marina , one night at barbed wire surrounding Detroit marina was enough Lol . Big nice . ship museum on belle isle too .

@vernamurawski150 2 жыл бұрын

Glad all are safe. I am sure Sara (our angel) was watching over you and your crew. Safe travels Walter & Verna Murawski

@jstoli996c4s 2 жыл бұрын

Dang, talk about a pucker moment 😳

@shirleybalinski4535 9 ай бұрын

The. Big bend of the river & the really swift current.

@McBadger77 2 жыл бұрын

Great seamanship there Cpt & Crew!

@historyadventureswithcandi3497 2 жыл бұрын

Still thankful it was loss of power and no grounding. Safe travels capt and crew.

@richardallison8745 2 жыл бұрын

I am here on the Florida gulf coast and see ships around here all the time. I am curious how fast the current goes on the St. Clair and no one brought up the wind but by looking at those flags, the wind was between 10-30 kts and I am sure that was also a factor on getting this ship under control. There was an "on the ball" skipper on that bridge....

@Erin-Thor 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Initially I thought the ship drifted forward, but the flags showed it was going against the wind.

@georgeshannon9370 2 жыл бұрын

It's where Lake Huron empties into the St. Clair river.

@jeffhorn6052 2 жыл бұрын

I believe it is around 6-8 kts current

@rockeerockey6941 2 жыл бұрын

It's not fixed in under the bridge, but it's typically upwards of 10 knots

@drumguycpm 2 жыл бұрын

And heads immediately into an s-curve downstream. Expert seamanship required even in ideal circumstances.

@yoyo762 2 жыл бұрын

WWEEEEEEEEEE!!! That was fun. A spinout!!

@karengeorge5812 2 жыл бұрын

Steady as she goes!

@rockeerockey6941 2 жыл бұрын

The old man is trying to keep control with the thrusters

@carlthor91 2 жыл бұрын

Good thing he has the help of the tug(s), otherwise, could be really ugly.

@benghaziwarrior3687 2 жыл бұрын

Gales of November going wild

@oceansoul3694 2 жыл бұрын

WOW! How do you tow a ship like this one? Oh, and I LOVE the Wilfred Sykes' Christmas lights! I hope no one was injured in this mishap! This is amazing footage, thank you!

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

Tug pulled it out after after nearly 4 hrs. At about 3:15 am she had a load of coal for Detroit area from duluth, mn.

@oceansoul3694 2 жыл бұрын

@@douglashurd8652 Thank you so much, I cannot even imagine what the tug uses to pull a ship that big..chain or straps or ropes made for this? Forgive my ignorance, never been around ships, but I do love the Duluth Harbor cam. Thank you again!

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

@@oceansoul3694 actually interesting question on tug actually using a pulling act as current and wind required, instead of pushing activities, but I'd think some refined composite type of rope might compliment traditionally used rope possibly . Could've been a combination of cable with rope , been decades since i was around lakers , locks and docks . Kinda wondered that , duluth is beautiful neat place. And bayfield nice too but no ship views up close , but neat car ferrying activity to Madeline is. when the ice road gone and hovercraft not needed .

@oceansoul3694 2 жыл бұрын

@@douglashurd8652 Thank you!

@cnunya3731 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure which ship this was but a couple for two weeks ago I saw a ship coming down they have the Christmas lights and Santa and a Christmas tree up where the captain is it was actually pretty decorated it was pretty cool

@glm777 2 жыл бұрын

Whoa doggie that was exciting...

@donmartin7460 2 жыл бұрын

No horn…….must have been in Stealth Mode.

@Karen-wo9fh 2 жыл бұрын

Thank goodness on Thanksgiving.

@johnd.johnson5294 2 жыл бұрын

Don't need towing on the St. Clair River just steering.

@johnd.johnson5294 2 жыл бұрын

Downriver.

@e7boats 2 жыл бұрын

That's the reason for one way traffic between Lake Huron cut bouys 1 and 2 and the traffic bouy down river across from the entrance to the Black River. Downbound traffic has right of way. Upbounded traffic heaves to awaiting downbound. I was with the Coast Guard for a little more than 4 years, on the Bramble and at the Station. Current is an average 3 to 5 knots under the bridge, but can be higher at times. Saw a pleasure boat anchor by the stern under the bridge. Didn't end well and I was glad we were right there to assist.

@Jim1Tom 2 жыл бұрын

Wow That could have been bad!!

@Jim-hw1xr 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. There's got to be a morning after.....

@paulbetka2966 2 жыл бұрын

. What happened. How'd they corrected it ❓❓

@rarleyposting5546 2 жыл бұрын

I bet if it had collided with the wall it would be scrapped from so much damage.

@LCG65 2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@alexandersarojz9222 2 жыл бұрын

non-Michigan here can someone explain what happened please?? thanks

@warrenrodgers7544 2 жыл бұрын

A ship with lights came into view....Knoxville Tn.I fell asleep before the end

@beekeeper7535 2 жыл бұрын

@doubleheadergr What the hell is a smelt. Never mind I just looked it up where I'm from we call that fishing bait. Do you eat minnows.

@beekeeper7535 2 жыл бұрын

@doubleheadergr I watched a KZfaq video Townsend and son they said pickled smelt was a huge thing. Nowadays it's mostly frozen smelt

@beekeeper7535 2 жыл бұрын

@doubleheadergr I've never seen the great lakes. I should make the drive there one day to see them I'm a few hours drive away in Maryland. I seen a KZfaq video called Townsend they say pickled smelt was really popular nowadays it's mostly frozen. As for salmon I could eat those at least twice a week. Is it fairly easy to catch salmon there.

@professorr.5427 2 жыл бұрын

@@beekeeper7535 Fresh caught smelt is delicious. There were usually not many left to freeze. Great weekends in childhood: catch, clean, eat.

@SailorAllan 2 жыл бұрын

"hey Cap ! betcha can't drift this sucker under that bridge ! " " hold my beer sonny"

@oceansoul3694 2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAA! too funny

@iloneclezar Жыл бұрын

Que lindas as bandeiras desfraldadas !

@StreamTimeLive Жыл бұрын

Indeed! Thanks for watching!

@stickman920 2 жыл бұрын

Was that the wilford syikes

@timothyspearman9347 2 жыл бұрын

They dragged her downriver a bit to Marysville where she sits today.

@alidycepaisley3829 2 жыл бұрын

After a sudden stop like that I would expect she would need some sort of an inspection... I've never seen something that big stop that quickly.

@snydedon9636 2 жыл бұрын

@@alidycepaisley3829 Stacey abrams

@bobberger918 2 жыл бұрын

In the navy we dip the anchor coming in

@randygravel2057 2 жыл бұрын

That’s what she said

@bernielomaxsmustache7204 2 жыл бұрын

I bet you dip yourself in all sorts of navy men

@Bob61944 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone have the story? Nice camera work!

@LCG65 2 жыл бұрын

I wondered also, it’s in the video description box below the video.

@davidtx8777 2 жыл бұрын

Read the description!

@mastermanion1 2 жыл бұрын

She lost steering.

@motorcityemt5903 2 жыл бұрын

Lost steering/rudder control entering the river. Got turned around due to strong current. No damage per radio traffic. Steering was re-gained, tug manitou assisted to Sarnia anchorage for inspection.

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

A couple guys did cameras, really on the ball , and proper zooms documenting the sudden unfolding as it exited mighty lake huron on a very windy night into the immediate mouth of the st Clair river with a load of coal for Detroit area from duluth, mn.

@solarusthelonghaulerrailfa3226 2 жыл бұрын

Well the bigger they are the bigger mess that they make 😞🤔

@phillipseaton7163 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely not the captains day

@boblister665 2 жыл бұрын

Lucky it didn't happen a couple minutes later.

@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 2 жыл бұрын

Bringing her about!

@okboomer6201 2 жыл бұрын

There is a high pressure LPG gas pipeline from Zug Island to BP Windsor a few hundred yards south of the bridge. God forbid someone drags an anchor across it. The "Cochin Pipeline".

@monsterbellzy4307 2 жыл бұрын

This is Port Huron/Sarnia…

@tylerkapteyn5830 2 жыл бұрын

This is not in Windsor, thats the Bluewater bridge therefore is port huron/sarnia and there isn't any pipelines for several KM

@charleskesner1302 2 жыл бұрын

WOW

@harley8680 2 жыл бұрын

oh no!

@BigChuck_1 2 жыл бұрын

How you can tell it's a husband & wife team driving the boat.....😎 "You said turn Left not Right !" "I thought you were watching where you were going" "Don't you raise your voice at me" "Tuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrnnnnnn" "Stop screaming at me" 😎

@mikegerdeman362 2 жыл бұрын

Captain Hazelwood or what?

@dottiea.2186 2 жыл бұрын

What happen with the Captain??

@scootertrash911 2 жыл бұрын

He is now a First Lieutenant.

@thomasm195 2 жыл бұрын

It was a steering malfunction

@douglashurd8652 2 жыл бұрын

Captain supposedly no frills , always on time and dont waste no time and certainly was not going to deal with the bridge in all due respect handling the situation in high wind as well as humanly possible. Amazing work , throwing the hook to avoid drifting in current towards big ass bridge connecting to Canada.

@benghaziwarrior3687 2 жыл бұрын

RIP THE EDMUND FITZGERALD🙏🏼

@alexandersinclair9006 2 жыл бұрын

Get over the Fitzgerald. Seriously

@northernbettygirl 9 ай бұрын

@@alexandersinclair9006 what an INHUMAN and CALLOUS thing to say!!! You wouldn't feel that way if your grandfather, father, brother or uncle were part of that crew that lost their life. JERK!

@Milakitty1563 7 ай бұрын

@@alexandersinclair9006sounds as if YOU need “to get over the Edmund Fitzgerald”. Most adults have learned to disregard or ignore topics they have no interest in.