GREECE | How Did It Gain Its Current Borders?

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Prof James Ker-Lindsay

Prof James Ker-Lindsay

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On 25 March 1821, the Greek War of Independence - also known as the Greek Revolution - officially began. A decade later, in 1832, Greece became an independent state when the Ottoman Empire recognised it within officially demarcated borders. However, the boundaries of the new Kingdom of Greece were a mere fraction of the territory it claimed as its own. Over the next 120 years, Greece would undergo a series of five expansions resulting in the borders that we know today. So, how did Greece become independent? And how did it expand to its current size?
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Many countries become independent within borders that don't meet their national aspirations. However, sometimes a country is able to unite many of the territories it claims. Greece is a very good example of irredentism - as the quest to claim national territory is known. Having become independent within boundaries that included just the Peloponnese in southern Greece and the islands of the western Aegean, it went through five expansions, including the Ionian Islands, Thessaly, Epirus, Macedonia, Western Thrace, Crete and the Dodecanese Islands. However, the process of Greek expansion - a policy of expansion known as the Magali Idea (Great Idea) - was not without its costs. The disastrous campaign in 1922 saw Greece lose its chance to take Asia Minor and Constantinople. Then, in 1960, Cyprus, the last major unredeemed territory became independent. But not without one last tragedy.
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0:00 Introduction and Titles
0:51 Irredentism and the expansion of Greece
2:22 Greece and the Ottoman Legacy
3:53 The Greek War of Independence
4:46 Greece's Expansion to the Ionian Islands and Thessaly
6:57 Crete, Southern Epirus and Macedonia join Greece
8:49 The Asia Minor Campaign and the addition of Thrace
11:02 The Dodecanese and Cyprus
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@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
25 March 2021 marks the 200th anniversary of the start of the Greek War of Independence. It was one of the most important independence movements in modern history. But it was not the end of the story. Its would be another 120 years before Greece assumed its final borders. In any case, my very best wishes to Greeks celebrating the anniversary!
@rogerdarthwell5393
@rogerdarthwell5393 3 жыл бұрын
Great way to end the week with an awesome James Ker Lindsay video! And Indeed my Congratulations to all Greeks on this important anniversary!
@rezistence
@rezistence 3 жыл бұрын
Almost accurate the description BUT you have the talk more in depth about the greek expansions and the ethnic cleansing they produced and the population exchange between grece and turkey.
@Jurgen_Ibro
@Jurgen_Ibro 3 жыл бұрын
Russia liberated them and Bavaria fixed them: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g59prchimpespnU.html It gets me baffled when I see what sort of damage a mad Bavarian caused to us Albanians.
@ilirianbardhi7901
@ilirianbardhi7901 3 жыл бұрын
I am amaized to see how brainwashed people like u are. I am half ARVANITR. if u know what this mean than you are hiding the truth and if u dont go and see what primary sorces say about us. My grandparents are from Katerina, thesalia and we are not Greeks we have Albanian blood. We speak Albanian language, we are orthodox and we have the same culture and clothes, those clothes who greeks made them miniskirt. Shame on u.
@ilirianbardhi7901
@ilirianbardhi7901 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jurgen_Ibro greetinga from an half Arvanite bro. Modern greeks are anatolians. Hope the best for Albania and for all christian Albanians
@zekliv
@zekliv 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job in describing 200 years of existence of the modern Greek state in
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Yorgos! It wasn’t easy. And there was obviously so much I had to miss out. (As there usually is.) But it is an incredible story, and one that has a huge influence on the creation of so many other countries. My congratulations to all Greeks celebrating next week.
@stephiepapa1693
@stephiepapa1693 3 жыл бұрын
Your video could and should, if you ask me, be shown as a summarizing tool in class after finishing history lessons about the greek independence!! So detailed but at the same time easy to understand, follow and remember!! I'm 36 yrs old and just enjoyed this! Excellent 👌! Thank you so much 🥰
@giorgosgalanos9888
@giorgosgalanos9888 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan The only way for you to exist is to be a thief. You have no identity on your own so you have to steal the identity of other people. You are a crook.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephiepapa1693 bore people to death with lies. Yeah, right.
@jjgreek1
@jjgreek1 3 жыл бұрын
The mountains look on Marathon - And Marathon looks on the sea; And musing there an hour alone - I dream’d that Greece be free........Lord Byron
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@psi1378
@psi1378 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaybar6108 you can’t even construct a proper grammatical structured sentence 😂
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@psi1378 sure, history land stealer. 🤣🤣🤣
@jjgreek1
@jjgreek1 Жыл бұрын
@@khaybar6108 are you 🦃?
@michalipiperakis9380
@michalipiperakis9380 3 жыл бұрын
As a Greek i want to thank you all for your kind words :). May our unity in our common fight for freedom, justice and philotimia create a world where we are all proud to call home! Lots of love form Greece! :)
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I actually lived in Greece at one point and have always felt a strong attachment to the country. It is an amazing story.
@pendrewluo8327
@pendrewluo8327 3 жыл бұрын
Love Hellas 🇬🇷🇬🇷from the PRC🇨🇳! Hopes our relationship will be good forever!
@annaanna8330
@annaanna8330 3 жыл бұрын
🇬🇷 ❤️ 🇨🇳
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan Greece history is made up. Greece used to have Ethiopian slaves.
@Anastas1ios
@Anastas1ios 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan You are the definition of "clinically defective". I assume you dont even have a normal life, only sitting on your chair possibly weighing over 200 lbs and thinking you do smth great by writing utter bs. Which you pull out of your arse. Continue on buddy, Life is good. Aint it? 😉
@davidaxelos4678
@davidaxelos4678 Жыл бұрын
@@khaybar6108 Hi, made up slave!🤣
@mehmeteraslan4779
@mehmeteraslan4779 3 жыл бұрын
The Greek Independence is a great chapter of the history of Europe. It is also a great success story: Greece stands out in south Europe and the mediterranean as a beacon of freedom, democracy, stability and prosperity despite the endless hardship it went through the last 200 years (countless wars, earthquakes etc). It is by any account one of the most developed nations on earth. Which is Greece's greatest weapon through history? Its language! The Greek language has the longest documented history of any living Indo-European language, spanning at least 3,400 years of written records. Very few people realise that Greek is also a sacred language. Most people know that Arabic is the sacred language of Muslims, because the Quran is in Arabic. But which is the sacred language of Christianity, the biggest religion of this planet with more than 2 billion followers? It is Greek, the language of the Gospels. Very few nations can boast that with their language, culture, art, philosophy have shaped the world (China, India, Italy, France, England, Israel, Saudi Arabia), one of them, perhaps the smallest in size, Greece, has had the the greatest and most enduring cultural impact! Just recall that the most used word of this planet on 2020 was a Greek one, Pandemic!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. All great points. It is indeed an amazing chapter in the history of Europe. It was also incredibly influential on so many other independence movements - perhaps second only to the US War of Independence. And the Ancient Greek legacy also helped to secure wider European support for its cause.
@muharremtgt1588
@muharremtgt1588 3 жыл бұрын
Baya yunan tarihine meraklı birisin sanırım. Türkiyede böyle insan bulmak zor. I guess you are very interested in Greek history. Hard to find people like that in Turkey.
@rrocketman
@rrocketman 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment Mehmet
@ycart_tech6726
@ycart_tech6726 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Greek culture is infused into a 2000 year old book that nobody reads anymore, unless they have to. Still, nice to know that someone could figure out a positive perspective. Save the mentally impaired, there's eleven million people in Greece who struggle to see the positive and fail completely unceremoniously.
@vs1279
@vs1279 3 жыл бұрын
I will totally agree. It is the most successful comment I have ever read for Greece!
@renakoutsoumba4739
@renakoutsoumba4739 3 жыл бұрын
"Greeks, God has signed our liberty and will not take his signature back" Theodoros Kolokotronis
@onzi10000
@onzi10000 3 жыл бұрын
God doesn't exist you fool
@mpampispappas5131
@mpampispappas5131 3 жыл бұрын
@@onzi10000 Still is a badass quote
@luanjakupi1788
@luanjakupi1788 3 жыл бұрын
And Greeks send Albanians from cameri to Turkey and they take Persians from Turks. Greeks are country of religion not of identity
@ilgrandearthas6429
@ilgrandearthas6429 3 жыл бұрын
Po, Theodor Bythguri!
@ilgrandearthas6429
@ilgrandearthas6429 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellenicnationalist5483 🤣🤣 Ella - Ellah--Allah middle east rooted religions. Roots of Bythguri is "Arberor.. He used to call the god as " Zot" not as ella. You can change the name but not the roots! 🇦🇱 Zoti e deshi Arber lindi Arber🇦🇱
@GeographyWorld
@GeographyWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating story which I didn't know much about before. I wonder how much the Greeks inspired Ireland to do the same.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I think many independence movements were inspired by it. Probably second only to the United States in terms of its wider influence. Helped by the fact that it was a cause célèbre of its day. Lord Byron and others.
@gregconstantinidis3338
@gregconstantinidis3338 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan Byzantine history is medieval greek history.... Slavic history now, like ur 'macedonian' history, very hard to follow as you didn't have an alphabet or written language until greeks christianised and educated you to spread orthodoxy ......
@socratessocratous3864
@socratessocratous3864 3 жыл бұрын
The only country that didnt wished Greece for the anniversary of the 200th independence day was Germany....no problem we will invite them to the parade for the 28 of October.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
I shouldn’t laugh. But I did! :-)
@evangeliar.7600
@evangeliar.7600 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because of the turks living in this country..
@socratessocratous3864
@socratessocratous3864 3 жыл бұрын
@@evangeliar.7600 Ή επειδή ήταν πάντα εχθροί του Ελληνισμού...
@socratessocratous3864
@socratessocratous3864 3 жыл бұрын
@iwonnatube well that doesnt change much since Germany never really supported Greece we see that since 1800 so.... cheers
@markog7316
@markog7316 3 жыл бұрын
Even our main enemy Turkey congratulate Greece. Shame in Germany even not invited or not. Should congratulate Greece 200 years independence. They call it European Union. I don't believe it exists. Shame in German politics.
@Noname-ov6vr
@Noname-ov6vr 3 жыл бұрын
As A Greek this video is very interesting
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It is actually quite a personal one for me as I used to live in Greece.
@giorgosgalanos9888
@giorgosgalanos9888 3 жыл бұрын
​@Jordan & Jordan The only way for you to exist is to be a thief. You have no identity on your own so you have to steal the identity of other people. You are a crook.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@giorgosgalanos9888 you are a thief just like Slavs of Macedonia.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@giorgosgalanos9888 you lot are the last one to call anyone a crook.
@giorgosgalanos9888
@giorgosgalanos9888 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaybar6108 What are you; An albanian; turk;; gypsy;;; Hehe
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 3 жыл бұрын
Even though Greece ended up on the rough end of the stick in many aspects, I still think that its culture, language and story are pretty remarkable, and it's at least a small glimmer of hope for a return to greatness that our ancestors never cowered, they ALWAYS fought to preserve our independence and liberate our people so that maybe one day we could live in peace and harmony. Greetings to you, thanks for this anniversary video 😊
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I couldn't let the 200th anniversary pass! The Greek independence movement has had such an important impact on others around the world. Perhaps second only to the United States in terms of its wider significance. (Also, Greece is a special place for me as I used to live in Athens.)
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay that's cool! Yeah, I noticed that you had a pretty precise accent when pronouncing the Μεγάλη Ιδέα. Fun fact it was also called the "Greece of Two Continents and of Five Seas" or in Greek "Ελλάς των Δύο Ηπείρων και των Επτά Θαλασσών". This is referencing of course Europe and Asia, but can you guess which five seas it meant? PS to a Greek person like me, with roots all across these lands, my grandma from Smyrna, my grandpa from Epirus, other grandma from Constantinople and finally my paternal one from Peloponnese, I really feel it when we're talking about the liberation of Greece. Also, I have many friends from Cyprus and Pontus (which you didn't mention that much, but that's ok) and as far as I know, people especially in Cyprus see Unification with Greece as making much more sense than a reunification of their island, especially now that many Turks have migrated there. But political reasons would never allow for that I guess. If there's any reason for different states to exist, that's to represent their different peoples on a global stage and not have their rights or uniqueness trampled by other bigger nations/corporations. So if a Greek state has any reason to exist, that should be to host the Greeks, not for political reasons. So for example, now I hear that the two countries' leaders don't want to ever unite even if Turkey evacuates Cyprus, because by being 2 different states, they can "hack" the EU security council and Veto decisions to be enforced on one or the other. To me this makes no sense. Buy the same logic, Germany should split in East/West, France into France and Provence, Italy into Padania and Italy and Spain into Spain and Catalonia.
@khaldrago911
@khaldrago911 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgios_5342 interesting video, although it looks like the tide has turned in the last century. They lost Constantinople, Smyrna and the north of Cyprus in the last hundred years. With Europe declining, and greece’s demographic troubles, it’ll be interesting to see what happens in the next century.
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt 2 жыл бұрын
@@khaldrago911Numbers were never in favor of Greece. Look at the Turks. They had a strong empire with many, many ethnic minorities. They still trying to forcefully assimilate them and yet they can't succeed because they lack the secret ingredient. It's called civilization. Only through an interesting, highly civilised culture you can really assimilate different Ethnicities. Think about it and you might understand why Greeks, although they were never n millions, they're continuing to survive.
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt
@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt 2 жыл бұрын
@@khaldrago911 According to the Turkish Statistical organization the population of Turkey in 2050 will reach almost 100 millions with over 1/3 of them being Kurds. Imagine that... Time's a bitch and if you lack the secret, essential ingredient you won't survive. The 13th Century great Persian mystic Poet, Jalal-AL Din Rumi wrote "The Greeks are to create, the Turks to destroy. The Light and the Dark" History is full of such paradigms. At the end, with one or another way, Light's prevails!
@Cyberi0nix597
@Cyberi0nix597 3 жыл бұрын
as a greek myself im proud of all the history we carry for all these centuries and im really happy that other nations still know and think about us and support us. From all the people around greece...we thank you🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷💙💙💙!!(and yes i know my spelling isn't great)
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. And don’t worry, your spelling is great. Although I speak Greek, my written Greek is truly terrible! 🙂
@MusicAlparslan
@MusicAlparslan 3 жыл бұрын
what are you proud about exactly? is it the luxury of not having to actually fight? lands being handed to you by big brothers? loans being paid by big brothers? lmao 🤣🤣🤣
@Cyberi0nix597
@Cyberi0nix597 3 жыл бұрын
@@MusicAlparslan we are proud of our history and nationality also we for example do not want conflict with others unlike you . good day to you!
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, be proud. Don’t forget to say thank you Albanians.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cyberi0nix597 Greece doesn’t want conflict? Since when? You steal land and history and you don’t want conflict? People will want Conflict with Greece.
@LekanMakanju
@LekanMakanju 3 жыл бұрын
A truly mysterious country, Greece is in a league of its own😃 but then an inspiration to would-be nations around the world.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes. As I’ve said elsewhere, I’ve often thought of it as the second most influential independence movement after the United States.
@onzi10000
@onzi10000 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Nonsense. That's a very narrow minded western view.
@onzi10000
@onzi10000 3 жыл бұрын
@iwonnatube you have seeing the world through your perspective. My nationality has nothing to do with it. I'm half German, quarter french and quarter Italian. If the same question was posed in Japan you would have a very different answer.
@onzi10000
@onzi10000 3 жыл бұрын
@iwonnatube No. German full and full. But why would that matter?
@1212Artemis
@1212Artemis 3 жыл бұрын
@@onzi10000 Well, it's his view, respect it. You're entitled to make your own narrow minded eastern video.
@user-yh3xt7mt4k
@user-yh3xt7mt4k 3 жыл бұрын
It is a difficult task to talk about that subject in fifteen minutes. Yet you managed to start by the Byzantium linking medieval and modern Greece, something not many channels on KZfaq have attempted. Despite the omitted details that may change the essence of video's concept you did a remarkable job. Well done.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It was a bit of a challenge and unfortunately I did have to leave out lots of information. But I hope it’s a useful overview for people, especially those who don’t know much about the history of Greece. And you’re absolutely right. The Byzantine aspect is really important. I have always loved Byzantine history. (Psellus - 14 Byzantine Rulers is one of the great texts of eyewitness historiography. His account of Constantine IX Monomachos is just wonderful.) But we weren’t taught about it in school. I’ve always argued that you can’t understand modern Greece without understanding the Byzantine legacy.
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay You are absolutely correct about that Mr. Ker-Lindsay! 👍
@mehmeteraslan4779
@mehmeteraslan4779 3 жыл бұрын
Celebrating the Greek War of Independence is no time for pettiness! I read many bitter and insulting comments against the Greek people mostly coming from Albanians, Turks, Slavomavedonians and few Russians. Just comparing the standards of living and Human Development Index statuses of those countries with the Greek ones explain their bitterness and pettiness. It is a mere proof of the Greek greatness. As a Turk I wish to congratulate my Greek brothers and sisters on their Independence Day, I wish the next 200 years be years of prosperity, freedom and cultural grandeur both for Greece and for all its neighbors! Zito i Hellas!
@adinfinitum000
@adinfinitum000 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! Thank you komsu , we love our (sane) neighbours too.
@adinfinitum000
@adinfinitum000 3 жыл бұрын
@ττ ττ scroll down more
@papageorgebar
@papageorgebar 3 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend Mehmet. Absolute respect to your words and your way of thinking. After all... there is more things that we have in common then those that separate us.
@renakoutsoumba4739
@renakoutsoumba4739 3 жыл бұрын
Everyday people who go on with their life and struggle for a better future for themselves and their grandchildren try to see far ahead. And everyday people aspire only to happiness. And happiness does not exist in material things. We everyday people on all sides of the Mediterranean know that very well. Greetings from Greece.
@ahmetturan7750
@ahmetturan7750 3 жыл бұрын
You are too conspicuous, your master Fethullah Gülen made the same praises to Greece a few days earlier, he even used the same sentences as you
@MegaKoutsou
@MegaKoutsou 3 жыл бұрын
As a Greek, this is a perfect, fact-based video. Good job!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much indeed. I had wanted to do this video for a long time. I actually lived in Greece (and Cyprus) and speak Greek. (But my writing is atrocious!) It is an amazing story. Many congratulations on the anniversary.
@MegaKoutsou
@MegaKoutsou 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Your greek accent when saying Μεγαλη Ιδεα was perfect
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaKoutsou Thank you so much! 🙏🏻🙂 I’m not often accused of having a good accent and so really appreciate it. But you should hear it when I say anything longer. 😂😂😂
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan They should watch Skai documantary of so called Greece.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@iwonnatube If I was a Turk I would be proud. Because then I can say to people we made Greece our bitch for 400 years and ended up fighting the Albanians. But not a Turk my Iraqi friend.
@billaros1338
@billaros1338 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video James. My country got inspired by the ideals of the French Revolution and the notion of the ''nation-state'' and actually managed to inspire other nations in the process. It's true, independence in the early 19th century didn't come easy. Millions of Greeks had already died fighting for freedom in the course of 400 years of Ottoman oppression. Many more died in wars that followed like the Crimean War, Balkan Wars, WWI and WWII, the 1919 war with Turkey, the Korean War and many many smaller wars that are largely unknown to the rest of the world. We thank them and honor them. We wouldn't exist without their sacrifice. Happy Independence Day to every Greek out there.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I completely agree. It is a fascinating story that was inspired by France and the United States, but also went on to inspire others as well. And my warmest congratulations to all Greeks celebrating around the world this week!
@endilasku1029
@endilasku1029 3 жыл бұрын
HAPPY 200TH ANNIVERSARY OF INDEPENDENCE DAY GREECE FROM ALBANIA 🇦🇱🤝🇬🇷
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
Of course they should be happy. Not being there fighting. Who fought the Ottomans, the Albanians. Endi Lasku qenke shpërla nga trruni.
@thomasthomas6330
@thomasthomas6330 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend!
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasthomas6330 don’t go that far. Albanians are friends to each other.
@thomasthomas6330
@thomasthomas6330 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaybar6108 What do you mean?
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasthomas6330 I mean real friends is with ourselves. You might thank him but not friends.
@loizos9565
@loizos9565 3 жыл бұрын
Ζήτω η Ελλάδα μας!
@ycart_tech6726
@ycart_tech6726 3 жыл бұрын
Ζήτω, ρε φίλε... δεν κοστίζει τίποτα σε τελική ανάλυση
@YiannisDrosos-DIO13
@YiannisDrosos-DIO13 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan Get a life Παπάρα!!!!
@giorgosgalanos9888
@giorgosgalanos9888 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan The only way for you to exist is to be a thief. You have no identity on your own so you have to steal the identity of other people. You are a crook.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan you are correct
@yiannisosfp1621
@yiannisosfp1621 3 жыл бұрын
HAPPY INDEPENDENT DAY HELLAS THE BLESSING LAND OF THE MOTHER EARTH 🇬🇷✝️🇨🇾✝️🇬🇷✝️🇨🇾✝️🇬🇷 from New Zealand 🇬🇷✝️🇳🇿
@yiannisosfp1621
@yiannisosfp1621 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan Hi brother IS ONLY ONE MAKEDONIA 🇬🇷✝️🇬🇷 Yiannis New Zealand 🇬🇷🇳🇿
@yiannisosfp1621
@yiannisosfp1621 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan What are you brother?? Bulgarian or mongol
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@yiannisosfp1621 What are you Pakistani or Afghani?
@louisbeerreviews8964
@louisbeerreviews8964 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan nope they are Greek look it up
@louisbeerreviews8964
@louisbeerreviews8964 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan 'The Hellenic World' is a term which refers to that period of ancient Greek history between 507 BCE (the date of the first democracy in Athens) and 323 BCE (the death of Alexander the Great). ... This is the time of the great Golden Age of Greece and, in the popular imagination, resonates as 'ancient Greece'.
@user-ob5il7cy8o
@user-ob5il7cy8o 3 жыл бұрын
Δίνω πανελληνιες του χρόνου και έχω να πω ότι η ιστορία είναι το μάθημα που βρίσκω πιο ενδιαφέρον και συναρπαστικό από όλα. Χρόνια πολλά Ελλάδα. Τιμή σε όσους πέθαναν για την πατρίδα. Η δικιά μας γενιά έχει να διεκδικήσει μια αλλού είδους απελευθέρωση..
@christoskotsias8050
@christoskotsias8050 3 жыл бұрын
An se endiaferei i istoria mathe na psaxneis...ereuna, piges, arxeia..
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 2 жыл бұрын
Καλή επιτυχία, φίλε μου! - εύχομαι όλα να πάνε όπως ποθείς. Ιστορία: τα πάντα είναι Ιστορία.
@pottingsoil
@pottingsoil 2 жыл бұрын
Cool scribbles
@johnpolitis9060
@johnpolitis9060 Жыл бұрын
ΩΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΑΣ Η 25 ΜΑΡΤΙΟΥ 1821 ΕΙΝΑΙ ΨΕΜΑ ΠΛΑΣΙΟΠΟΙΗΜΕΝΟ ΑΠΟ ΗΛΙΘΙΟΥΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΕΘΝΙΚΙΣΤΕΣ!
@johnpolitis9060
@johnpolitis9060 Жыл бұрын
Οι Τούρκοι είναι αδέρφια μας.
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 3 жыл бұрын
Nice view of the subject! Although, the Greek Revolution didn't start just in the lands of modern Greece. Cyprus, Smyrna and even places in the Northern Balkans, such as Iasi in Romania raised the banner of the Greek Revolution.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Indeed. It stated in Moldavia - and before 25 March. I had thought to put it in, but in a short video like this it always becomes a balance between trying to provide enough detail for those who know a region and too much for those who don’t and could become confused. (I actually also had a bit in the script about how the independence movement also divided Greeks. Another fascinating story. I once spent Greek Independence Day on an island in the Aegean where they were all celebrating. At one point a historian I was with leaned over and with a wry smile told me that it was all hypocrisy. The island had in fact declared neutrality at the start of the War!)
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 3 жыл бұрын
Its started in Macedonia and Epirus as well.
@erlin3036
@erlin3036 3 жыл бұрын
Romania served as base for a lot of people to launch their national movements. Same thing happened with Albania
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot to mention in stated in Asia Minor as well but ended up in massacres
@thomasthomas6330
@thomasthomas6330 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay You may have been in central Aegean island. Because those Greeks have been converted to Catholic Church since 4th Crusade, and they stayed neutral due to fear of loosing their privileges in case of failure.
@ted1452
@ted1452 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you James. If only Greece did not go inland stretching it’s supply lines and just defended the region of Smyrna.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That’s a really interesting point. Obviously, the Treaty of Sevres was seen as a humiliation by the Turkish Nationslists, but one wonders how things might have panned out if, as you say, Greece had focused on consolidating what it had rather than pushing inland. The question of Eastern Thrace is also interesting. I didn’t go into detail on that. That could have been a much easier gain for Greece.
@ted1452
@ted1452 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Yes James you are right on Eastern Thrace. I think this was Eleftherios Venizelos biggest diplomatic mistakes. From what I have read, even after the Asia Minor failure Greece had a capable force to defend Eastern Thrace, but basically gave it away.
@sotoskun861
@sotoskun861 3 жыл бұрын
@@ted1452 What are you talking about? Asia minor catastrophe wasnt Eleftherios Venizelos mistake. He lost the elections in 1920 from the anti-Venizelos party who spread lies that he wanted to continue the war inland. When they came to power they were the ones who wanted to continue with the dream of taking credit of the eradication of the turks. Eleftherios Venizelos was the one who wanted to stop the war. He had very good diplomatic relations with Kemal we could had Smyrna and eastern thrace if he didnt lost the elεctions. Eleftherios Venizelos was the best diplomatic leader and politician we ever had until today.
@jortheo
@jortheo 3 жыл бұрын
@@sotoskun861 The question that Ted put is why Eastern Thrace was returned by Venizelos in 1923. Population percentages might have had something to do with this.
@sotoskun861
@sotoskun861 3 жыл бұрын
@@jortheo I still dont understand. We never got eastern thrace. It was part of a treaty it never came to be. We had briefly eastern thrace during the war.
@ethanisraelsohn2647
@ethanisraelsohn2647 3 жыл бұрын
love greece from israel 🇮🇱♥️🇬🇷
@geraltofrivia9533
@geraltofrivia9533 3 жыл бұрын
Am Yisrael chai! Love from Greece 🇬🇷💙🇮🇱
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 3 жыл бұрын
@MrPolinikis oh shut up
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 3 жыл бұрын
@MrPolinikis lol what truth? Your just angry about this topic and commant stupid things like this one
@giorgijioshvili9713
@giorgijioshvili9713 3 жыл бұрын
@MrPolinikis oh whait your talking about slavadonia?
@ashaadana9295
@ashaadana9295 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@ghostofathens6600
@ghostofathens6600 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@Bill Nat ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@Bill Nat ⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@peacefulworld1717
@peacefulworld1717 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful history! Thank you for this lesson. We keep learning by the day.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope you are well.
@marcustilliuscicero7642
@marcustilliuscicero7642 3 жыл бұрын
The genesite of Greeks in Asia Minor in 1923 will never be forgotten!!!!!Turkey will once pay for what they have done!!!!!!
@1212Artemis
@1212Artemis 3 жыл бұрын
genocide*
@marthoula1977
@marthoula1977 3 жыл бұрын
Thank to Russia and to venizelos genocide was successful
@marcustilliuscicero7642
@marcustilliuscicero7642 3 жыл бұрын
@@marthoula1977 Its not Venizelos fault is the kinks fault
@marthoula1977
@marthoula1977 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcustilliuscicero7642 I won't analyse this
@ashaadana9295
@ashaadana9295 3 жыл бұрын
Greeks aren't Asians tho
@nikostouboulidis5393
@nikostouboulidis5393 3 жыл бұрын
Accurate as always James! Keep up the good work,the limit is the sky!Greetings from Greece .
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Nikos. Many congratulations to you and all Greeks around the world celebrating today!
@nikostouboulidis5393
@nikostouboulidis5393 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay On behalf of my compatriots ,we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. l hope this day's message to be spread all around the world were everyone would live in peace and harmony.
@FearTheNorth
@FearTheNorth 3 жыл бұрын
Its not over... KALI LEUTERIA Thank you my friend
@kanenasithaki4669
@kanenasithaki4669 3 жыл бұрын
how did Greece incorporate it's national boundaries without having it's historical capital, Constantinople, in it?
@R3LAX94
@R3LAX94 3 жыл бұрын
They did,today there are no greeks in anatolia,eastern thrace and istanbul!!!
@kanenasithaki4669
@kanenasithaki4669 3 жыл бұрын
@@R3LAX94 as there are no Russians in their historical capital Kiev?
@steliosx7835
@steliosx7835 3 жыл бұрын
@@R3LAX94 but they did until 1923
@giokun100
@giokun100 2 жыл бұрын
@@R3LAX94 Greeks can go back, problem solved.
@DCCrisisclips
@DCCrisisclips 9 ай бұрын
Not sure but many Greeks including me will say that Athens is just a temporary capital until we get Constantinople back. But it does look very unlikely due to population differences. But we can hope.
@DarthxLuna
@DarthxLuna 10 ай бұрын
I've been looking for years for a video like this. Thank you
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Reply glad it helps. Ironically, I’m in Greece at the moment. :-)
@georgekiosses6800
@georgekiosses6800 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations for your video . You describe very precise all the events .
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you very much indeed. I really appreciate it. It really is an incredibly story. I often say that I think it is probably the second most influential independence movement after the UnitedStates. Many other movements were inspired by it.
@Asamations
@Asamations 2 жыл бұрын
Great video James! Greece is a beautiful country. With a rich history, delicious food and friendly people. What's not to like? Keep up the good work! I am loving your vids! 🙂😉
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I really appreciate the support.
@skyline3230
@skyline3230 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, and also the language is the most beautiful in the world 🌏❤🇬🇷🌍❤🇬🇷🌎❤🇬🇷🇺🇲❤🇬🇷
@GeorgeSBlonsky
@GeorgeSBlonsky 3 жыл бұрын
Hi James..!! Hope you are well... great video as always and my admiration for being able to recount the entire story in just under 14mins..!! All the best to you.. g
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Hi George, so great to hear from you! I hope that all is well at your end. It wasn't easy to condense it all. :-) As you can imagine, I had to leave out a lot of things I would have liked to include. But it is amazing story. And, of course, I have a special affection for Greece, having lived there at one point. Next week's anniversary is certainly a cause for celebration! By the way, if anyone else sees this comment, do check out George's channel. It is great. Absolutely stunning photography: kzfaq.info/love/2cjFacK2whkZ93nZ6Jt4_A
@GeorgeSBlonsky
@GeorgeSBlonsky 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay ..thanks for the plug James.. :-).. I’m well ta.. back in Greece for the duration but hope to get back to the uk again soon.. wish you well.. g
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeSBlonsky I can think of worse places to be sitting it out. :-)
@GeorgeSBlonsky
@GeorgeSBlonsky 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay ..true..! 😊
@anastasiossarikas5510
@anastasiossarikas5510 2 жыл бұрын
I am so pleased to have discovered your channel. You analyses are well researched, well-told, and accurate. I am pressing the "subscribe button" now.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын
Sas efcharisto para poly, Anastasie! I really appreciate it! Greetings from London. :-)
@user-nr3sd4dg3y
@user-nr3sd4dg3y 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Greece
@iaw7406
@iaw7406 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated but I really like greek yoghurt.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! Well, there is that too! :-)
@sookmacock69yearsago99
@sookmacock69yearsago99 3 жыл бұрын
❤️ from Greece
@exchef7555
@exchef7555 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@sookmacock69yearsago99
@sookmacock69yearsago99 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan *Greek
@exchef7555
@exchef7555 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan how come it’s Turkish when it’s well known all over the world as Greek? Turkish companies even use Greek names to promote their product.
@vs1279
@vs1279 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!!It was an excellent presentation of the historical events that led to the independence of Greece.Greece could be much bigger if the Greeks did not have a very big enemy.....the Greeks!
@Glasgow_kiss
@Glasgow_kiss 3 жыл бұрын
very interesting video. thank you.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope all is well at your end. Hoping to make it over to join you all this evening. For anyone up for some discussion on the UK, Europe and other current affairs, do take a look at Max Robespierre kzfaq.info/love/SiYkMylC3F_eQfIodMHkOw
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 3 жыл бұрын
Just stumbled onto your excellent channel - immediately subscribed! Greetings from Greece.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much indeed. Warmest greetings from London!
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 3 жыл бұрын
James Ker-Lindsay - Cheers! 🙂
@adinfinitum000
@adinfinitum000 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see your take on the ancient Greek world and their legacy on modern Europe. Πολύ καλό βίντεο , I'm now a subscriber.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I hadn’t thought of going that far back. But it might be interesting to look at the idea of statehood in the ancient world. Great suggestion!
@hammanbanjiram1611
@hammanbanjiram1611 2 жыл бұрын
Informative! Thank you, sir!
@j.kapiris
@j.kapiris 3 жыл бұрын
Really liked this video. Thank you so much
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@spirosgreek1171
@spirosgreek1171 3 жыл бұрын
Even if not really detailed, its still a really good video considering it lasts 14 minutes. As a greek thank you for this presentation of the history of my country, especially on the 200th years anniversary. A person to do your research and if you want, a video on is Ioannis Kapodistrias. He was first Governor of Greece and a really interesting figure. A doctor that eventually turned joint minister of foreign affairs of the Russian Empire, a big political opponent of Metternich due to his different ideas regarding the post napoleonic Europe, a big supporter of the greek indepedence war even if he had spoken against an armed uprising, since he considered the conditions not ideal for such an action and a figure that met a very tragic end.
@rrocketman
@rrocketman 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary, thanks Professor James
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. It is an incredible story. Many congratulations on this week’s anniversary! 🙂
@demphotiou
@demphotiou 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent analysis no one could have done it better!!!! Very precise and not biased at all, historically accurate!!!!! Perfect!!! I would propose that you would go over a lot of details on a future small clip on the Treaty Of Lausanne that would clarify a lot of things that people do not know till today!!!! Like the status of all the Greek islands plus the treaties of the straits which is also of vital importance.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. So glad to hear that you liked it! :-) Great point about Lausanne. I did discuss it in another video exploring the origins of Greek-Turkish tensions. But I do hope to come back to it. There are also some other issues I’d like to cover, such as the population exchanges.
@profesor1992able
@profesor1992able 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and as always fantastic!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Albert! I hope all is well with you.
@carloviljoen8226
@carloviljoen8226 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Prof another detailed and well-informed publication, please consider doing a talk on the Cape of Good Hope.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It’s certainly on my list of cases to cover.
@jackwiegmann
@jackwiegmann 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully informative video. I checked a language map of the region after you mentioned Greece's desire to annex Asia minor + Constantinople and was curious why Greek would want Turkish speaking land - the later ethnic cleansing answered my question.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. The population exchange was something that I didn’t cover in as much detail as I should have. I might try to come back to it. What was fascinating was that it was based on religion, not ethnic identification. Many Christian Turkish speakers suddenly found themselves in Greece and many Greek speaking Muslims suddenly found themselves in Turkey. It must have been horrifically traumatic for so many of them.
@dimitrisoikonomou3568
@dimitrisoikonomou3568 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, from the population exchange, the Greeks of Constantinople and the Muslims of Thrace where excluded, however after the pogrom of Constantinople (1955), most Greeks living there were expelled. In general, its considered that more than 10 million Greeks/Christians were living in Asia Minor before 1922.
@pendrewluo8327
@pendrewluo8327 3 жыл бұрын
Annex (No) Regain (Yes)
@1212Artemis
@1212Artemis 3 жыл бұрын
@@pendrewluo8327 Exactly. How do people not know this?
@thomasthomas6330
@thomasthomas6330 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 10 million is overrated (i'm greek), but 2 -3 million i think.
@farhanhyder7304
@farhanhyder7304 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another excellent video
@CedarHunt
@CedarHunt Жыл бұрын
Wow, it's kind of crazy to see a country that can directly trace its cultural roots back to almost the dawn of human civilization. Greece has to be one of if not the oldest civilization to have a direct, unbroken line of culture and heritage from the classical period to the modern era.
@V-man117
@V-man117 2 жыл бұрын
From the Mycenaean civilization all the way to modern Greece. More than 3500 years of history 🇬🇷💙
@drinimene9126
@drinimene9126 3 жыл бұрын
Greece stands as the luckiest Balkan state to win most of what it firstly claimed. Its ancient legacy, the very important foreign support, its geostrategic position, its people's great will for expansion and the relaxed rules of the past, were the main factors to enable a territory to remain Greek speaking after three Millenia.
@adinfinitum000
@adinfinitum000 3 жыл бұрын
Inspired other people as well to create their nation states.
@TartarusPyro
@TartarusPyro 3 жыл бұрын
expansions? you mean taking back the stolen expansions? wtf
@billaros1338
@billaros1338 3 жыл бұрын
Luckiest? Really mate? We attempted more than 200 times to gain our independence between 1453-1821 and failed every single time. Scores of our people being butchered, crucified, force converted to Islam and even being impaled or roasted alive and you call us lucky? Compare that to Albania that gained independence without even firing a single shot or other Balkan countries. The only reason that Albania even exists is that Italy didn't want Greece to expand further in the Adriatic coasts, in the lands that we conquered not once but 3 times and still Italy lobbied everywhere against us.
@drinimene9126
@drinimene9126 3 жыл бұрын
@@TartarusPyro In which way stolen? Wars and diplomacy changed the territories.
@drinimene9126
@drinimene9126 3 жыл бұрын
@@billaros1338 We can talk about Albania as much as you want, but our topic is about Greece. Could you please provide some information about those 200 unsuccessful efforts of gaining independence? I had never heard something like that.
@nynthia1300
@nynthia1300 3 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Thank you !
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! It was such an interesting story to tell. I had wanted to do it for ages, but the bicentennial was the perfect moment. My warmest congratulations to all Greeks celebrating this week!
@georgeloizou1090
@georgeloizou1090 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary. Thank you
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. It really is an incredible story. Many congratulations on the anniversary!
@Rapunzelgr
@Rapunzelgr 3 жыл бұрын
Υπέροχο βίντεο!! Σε ευχαριστούμε πολύ!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏🏻🙂
@eliassolomou5503
@eliassolomou5503 3 жыл бұрын
This story isnt over but it is heading into the terminal phase. A peoples whom gave so much to the world and achieved ever enduring legacies whilst enduring so much hardships, pogroms and persecussions ultimately prevail with aspirations realised. I personally dont believe the golden age of hellenes was in classical greece nor in being the catalyst of europes renaissance but rather the true golden age of greece is yet to come. Zhtw h ellas.
@billaros1338
@billaros1338 3 жыл бұрын
The Golden Age of Greece was either the 5th century BC Athens or the Hellenistic Age or Basil's II Byzantine Empire. Obviously Greece had many more glorious moments like the decade between 1912-1922 with the Megali Idea and many more are sure to come but I'm not that optimistic about any other Golden Age. Not in the near future at least. That applies not only for Greece but for the rest of Europe and the Western World as well. We all have stagnating economies and shrinking populations. Compare that to Asian or African countries that are developing with 5% or 8% rates every year and they are doubling their population every 20 years or so.
@eliassolomou5503
@eliassolomou5503 3 жыл бұрын
@@billaros1338 , greece wasnt great because they had an 8% growth rate or 300% growth. But were great for their achievements and legacies . The uk calls her self great Britain but there is nothing great about them unless enslaving others,usurping their wealth and exploiting them on an industrial and systematic way with grim legacies that persist to this day is your benchmark. I tell you that the worlds modus operandi is faulty and obsolete by unitentional design and will soon enough fall on its sword, there and only then will my remarks be concise and obvious. Time and providence will reveal all.
@spiritusIRATUS
@spiritusIRATUS 3 жыл бұрын
Lol Greece has a failed economy that is only supported by tourism and an ailing public sector, an ageing population which will decrease severely in the next decades, no sister nations as they are not slavic, arab, latin or any of the huge groups around them, a language that is very difficult to learn even for its own youth that are increasingly illiterate since english is like 100x easier and more relevant and its youth is migrating to other countries and will stay there for the most part. Greece will be lucky to exist after a century or two, let alone have a golden age. It did have a good run though and will be remembered throughout history for its impact.
@billaros1338
@billaros1338 3 жыл бұрын
@@spiritusIRATUS I checked your profile and you have a variety of Greek artists and KZfaqrs in your playlists. Thus you are either a little Greek leftist or an Albanian who for some reason hates his adoptive country. Anyway that's kinda weird. If Greece has a failed economy then 90% of all countries have a failed economy too. Greece has the largest merchant fleet in the world, a massive tourist sector and is an advanced economy that is based on services. By far the best per capita economy in the Balkans. Don't forget that before the 2008 crisis, Greece was wealthier than Israel, Ireland, Portugal etc. Don't worry we'll get there again. Regarding the aging population, that's not solely a Greek problem. Every country in Europe is facing the same problem right now. Regarding migration, you don't always need to speak Greek in order to live or work here mate. Plus I'm pretty sure we don't want more people from Asia or Africa. Let them go to the "rich" Germany. I agree with you that it's unlikely for Greece or for any other European country to have another golden age anytime soon but for Greece not to exist mate? Hahahaha are you nuts? We have always been there mate and always will be. No Persian, Roman, Turk or anyone else could change that. Greece of 11 million people will be here long after countries with 10 times our population disappear or be renamed to something else.
@makeracistsafraidagain7608
@makeracistsafraidagain7608 3 жыл бұрын
Another great explanation, thanks James 🙏
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I hope you are keeping well.
@makeracistsafraidagain7608
@makeracistsafraidagain7608 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Indeed I’m doing well, James and you’re too.
@AMat-vx3ew
@AMat-vx3ew 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video, historically documented. from today I am a subscriber
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Really appreciated. It was a video I had long wanted to make. Such a fascinating story.
@AMat-vx3ew
@AMat-vx3ew 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay I see you are fascinated by history and that is why I will set you a historical challenge, to deal with the ways in which the Ottoman Empire was enforce on other peoples. There, you may discover facts and truths that others later used to enforce themselves. Yes, I know it is a difficult task in every way and very sensitive and a lot of work but believe me you will discover many "skeletons buried" in this closet of history, maybe many more than you can imagine. And at the end of the day the Historical truth is what counts, because we humans learn from our mistakes, that is the objective of the history and not to argue who has the "bigger" hahahaha Good day to have dear friend. just α Greek .
@nermainmerl6108
@nermainmerl6108 3 жыл бұрын
Legends says that Greece keeps expanding.
@lvoldum
@lvoldum 3 жыл бұрын
Ευχαριστώ πολύ! King George I and the last Queen Anna-Maria being Danish, Greece has always been interesting to a Dane! As usual very well explained. Χαίρε ελευθερία! 😉
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, of course. The Danish link is strong in this one! :-) I always found it interesting that George took the title king of the Hellenes. His predecessor, Otto (Othon), was merely King of Greece.
@lvoldum
@lvoldum 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Otto was German and expelled, as far as I recall. As for Vilhelm (George I), we had a tradition in Denmark of including in the king’s title the peoples he reigned over (apart from Denmark proper), and he came from a family with strong family values, so that may have inspired him. Apart from that, he was a shy 17-year old, so the concept “king of a country” might have seemed overwhelming - his sisters were Queen Alexandra of England and Tsarina Dagmar (Maria Feodorovna) of Russia. ;)
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
@@lvoldum Thanks! The Greeks always present it as a deliberate decision designed to reinforce the Megali idea. It’s interesting to think that it may have had different origins.
@lvoldum
@lvoldum 3 жыл бұрын
@James Ker-Lindsay Certainly, η μεγάλη ιδέα plays an important role, but I think Vilhelm has been very open to the concept. He really threw himself all in to be Βασιλεύς των Ελλήνων - he quickly learned Greek, abolished the unelected senate, etc.
@sto_karfi842
@sto_karfi842 3 жыл бұрын
King George had byzantine lineage from Emperor Alexios Komnenos, not that he ever took any pride from it since the line goes 35 generations back.
@conm87
@conm87 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thank you.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I have been really overwhelmed by the positive responses, especially as I touched on a couple of issues that I know are still incredibly sensitive.
@andrem1403
@andrem1403 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was actually a very personal one for me as I used to live in Greece.
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 2 жыл бұрын
Χρόνια Πολλά Ελλάδα μας! - Με πατριωτικούς χαιρετισμούς σε όλους τους Έλληνες και Φιλέλληνες του κόσμου από τον Καναδά.
@efthymiosanagnostos7427
@efthymiosanagnostos7427 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, I feel like it would’ve great to mention the conflict over North epirus as well
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I did want to do more on that, and several other aspects of the emergence of Modern Greece. But unfortunately in any 15 minute video it becomes a fine balance between providing enough information into get the point across and cramming in too much information, which can divert the narrative and become confusing for people new to the subject. But I do plan to come back to Epirus in one way or another, whether as a video on Greek-Albanian relations or a video on Albania as part of this series on how countries became independent. But thanks again for raising it.
@aldix1646
@aldix1646 3 жыл бұрын
North Epirus is another Fascist idea for expanding Greece my friend. First, there is no such a cause, and second Epirus has never been Hellenic. But before talking of Epirus, lets first talk about Çameria. It would be much more faire.
@efthymiosanagnostos7427
@efthymiosanagnostos7427 3 жыл бұрын
@@aldix1646 north Epirus 100 years ago was majority Greek. Chams aren’t native to Epirus they came during medieval times as immigrants. Greeks on the other hand have been in Epirus since ancient times while albanians were not.
@thomasthomas6330
@thomasthomas6330 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Thank God you should make a video about them. Because they are accusing us of stealing their identity and history...
@giorgioviras8266
@giorgioviras8266 2 жыл бұрын
@@aldix1646 Tell to Rama if touch any Greek from North epirus again we will take Albania in 4 hours
@ephilippos
@ephilippos 2 жыл бұрын
A documentary about Greece very well done, documented and presented.
@catalinmarius3985
@catalinmarius3985 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, James! I knew Greece expanded, but never knew it in that much detail. Greece's path to independence and irredentism mirrors Romania's on some level. Starting from the Ottoman vassal states of Wallachia and Moldavia, having a revolution to get rid of foreign rulers who would pay money to the Ottomans for the throne, then taking advantage of the Crimean War's peace negociations to bring up their desire for unification to the Great Powers, exploiting a loophole in the treaty to have the same man ruler of both countries, eventually becoming independent. Gaining Southern Doburja from Bulgaria in 1913 after Bulgaria refused to give up Silistra in the First Balkan War. And at the end of World War I former regions of Moldavia (Bessarabia and Bukovina) with Romanian majoritary regions in Transylvania and Banat declaring their desire for independence and union with Romania. Leading to Greater Romania. Although, it's worth pointing out that this wasn't the maximum extent of the Romanian irredentist idea. Which was actaully "From Dniester to Tisza" claiming historic right and including Western Crisana/Alfold (that remained part of Hungary) and West Banat (that remained part of Serbia, later Yugoslavia), but unlike other territories, those territories had an insignificant Romanian population, it claimed historic right, not ethnic self-determination. With Greater Romania ending in 1940 after the Fall of France when Germany and USSR demanded Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina to USSR, Northern Transylvania to Hungary and Southern Dobruja to Bulgaria. Originally pro-Allied, Romania tried to appease Germany after the Fall of France, but it was too little too late, other powers who previously declared their loyality to Germany already made territorial claims to Romania, who even with its change of allegeance, was looking only for a German guarnatee, it was only after the coup that ended Carol II's reign that Romania started to take an active implication and joined the Axis. At the end of World War II, due to King Michael's Coup in 1944 that changed sides, Romania took back Northern Transylvania from Hungary. But lost Snake Island to USSR in 1947 reaching its modern borders. However, much like Greece, Romania has a Cyprus of its own, Moldova. When Bessarabia was taken in 1940, it lost some of its territory to Ukraine and became a Soviet Republic, which later became an independent state in 1991, only to have its own Northern Cyprus in Transnistria who started a war against the independence. With Russian support, much like Turkish support in Cyprus, the conflict reached a stalemate that exists to this day.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Romania is another fascinating example. In fact, although I had to omit it, the Greek War of Independence actually began in Moldavia, as you probably know well. I really must do more on Romania and Moldova. I’ve been meaning to do a video of Transnistria for ages. But I am also fascinated in the question of Romania Moldova unification. What hasn’t it happened? Could it happen? And how would the EU respond?
@Pavlos_Charalambous
@Pavlos_Charalambous 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me I'm wrong but Romanian and Greek modern history are more interconnected than we might think, for starters the Greek community of wallachia did rebelled against the ottomans in that region in 1821 and at least tried to " get on board" the local population although the locals didn't trusted the Greeks due to the fact that many of the Greek leaders used to held positions of power with in the ottoman system Then there is the balkan wars after Bulgaria tried de facto to take over the territories was claiming, the found themselves in a three fronts war ( Serbia, Greece, Romania) and it did worked well for them, to say the least.. Ps I bet we can find more examples if we "lift the dust from the history books" 😉
@lexyp4337
@lexyp4337 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I wish you had spoken more on the true tragedy that the Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians suffered in Smyrna at the hands of the Turks in the 1920’s.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I understand. In any video of 15 minutes taking a look at such a brush sweep of history there is much that has to be omitted. But I think I did get across the tragedy of the loss of that ancient community. And hopefully it may have prompted people who are interested in the topic to look into it further. I have put some links to some great books on Greek history in the description.
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 3 жыл бұрын
Greek, Armenians, Assyrians and Jewish as well.
@yarenguney6410
@yarenguney6410 3 жыл бұрын
@@aokiaoki4238 ottomans and Turkey always protect Jews. Jews always welcomed here, Turkey.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
Boo hoo. There is no Genocide on Greece. Keep lying.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@Bill Nat I wish we did help Turks do that to you lot but no we didn’t, just Greece imagining things again.
@ApaleutosMits
@ApaleutosMits 3 жыл бұрын
The country north of Greece is called North of Macedonia,Not Macedonia.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I am aware if that. I did a video on it. But it also takes time for maps to be updated.
@user-cs6yd8dc8d
@user-cs6yd8dc8d 3 жыл бұрын
Is called Skopia !
@giorgosgalanos9888
@giorgosgalanos9888 3 жыл бұрын
​@@JamesKerLindsay You had to look more for an updated map or change the name yourself with an image editor. It's very easy. This acts as a provocation for us Greeks and for this reason I will downvote an otherwise good video.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
@@giorgosgalanos9888 Whatever pleases you. Sad that you feel that way. But it’s your choice. Anyway congratulations on the anniversary.
@user-un5kj8yu5t
@user-un5kj8yu5t 3 жыл бұрын
Makedonia is 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷Greece,,, not balkan. You are speek.. Balkanish, you are speek,, slavish,, και εγώ μιλάω.. Ελληνικά.. Είμαι Ελληνίδα.
@josephj6521
@josephj6521 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. 👍 Greetings from Australia.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Greeting from London.
@thomasj3421
@thomasj3421 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video
@rapushajfatjon8893
@rapushajfatjon8893 3 жыл бұрын
RESPECT FOR YOU JAMES .VERY REAL HYSTORI.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 3 жыл бұрын
This is very well done, the graphics are great and really add to it. The Ionian Islands are really fascinating, not colonized by the Ottomans but instead by Venice all the way until the republic’s destruction by France and Napoleon, who also took the islands, and then by Britain, at first under military control and then later as a British protectorate but one of the more oddly administered ones, as the local government under British protection was not, as in the case of most British protectorates, a monarchy, but was instead a classical republic; it was nonetheless a full protectorate of the British Empire.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Yes, the Ionians are fascinating. It might be an interesting story to return to. (I also hope to do Turkey as part of this series. I had to cover the War of Independence very briefly, but that is an amazing story in its own right.) And thanks so much for the comment on the graphics!! You’ve made my day. They took me ages. I recently upgraded my computer (m1 Mac mini) and some of my software and have been learning photoshop. (I’ve also been working on the audio.) It is allowing me to do a lot more and much faster, but this was still very fiddly. It was all the islands! :-) But it is so nice to have it spotted! Thanks.
@GeoBBB123
@GeoBBB123 3 жыл бұрын
I think you mean Venice ...
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeoBBB123 yes of course the Most Serene Republic of Venice, I must have had the Florentiner Marsch on my mind when I typed this
@costaathanasiou8125
@costaathanasiou8125 2 жыл бұрын
Knows our history better as we do and has and excellent Greek pronunciation! Well done!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 2 жыл бұрын
Sas efharisto para poly! :-) I have a deep affection for Greece. I actually lived there for a year 20 years ago.
@Alkomp75
@Alkomp75 2 жыл бұрын
Great work Professor ! I am amazed you pronounce greek words perfectly ! Greetings from Athens !!!
@geoellinas
@geoellinas 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tribute to the independence of Greece. Bravo!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Thank you to Albanians.
@geoellinas
@geoellinas 3 жыл бұрын
@Jordan & Jordan Greece has always been on the right side. In the club of civilized countries with cultural values and constantly seeks peace. Greece drove out the darkness brought by the Turks and thus was liberated, then sided with the allies in two world wars and stopped the schizophrenic Hitler. Turkey, Albania, Romania Bulgaria, Croatia, Ukraine were on the side of the most criminal man in history. Hitler. You have no right to talk about what Greece did.
@SuperTommox
@SuperTommox 3 жыл бұрын
Irredentism is a concept every italian school students study! Nice to know that it's internationally known
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Indeed. I have long meant to do a video on the unification of Italy. A truly fascinating story.
@alexiospapadopoulos620
@alexiospapadopoulos620 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you James!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It is an incredible history!
@alexiospapadopoulos620
@alexiospapadopoulos620 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay it was an excellent presentation of modern greek history James.. Congrats
@tasosfilippoy
@tasosfilippoy 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation! It is really fascinating to live the 200th anniversary of the hellenic state, especially in such a difficult period where the covid-19 pandemic has changed so much.
@gogogeegee76
@gogogeegee76 3 жыл бұрын
BTW please do not forget the 11 other Greek revolutions that took place during the 400yrs of Ottoman rule, thus paving the way for the 1821 revolution.
@sucramyalcin
@sucramyalcin 3 жыл бұрын
Great video James, basically we see the continuation of the fight of borders in the dispute between sea borders/eez in the Aegean and Mediterranean seas between Greece and Cyprus on the one hand and Turkey on the other.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Indeed. Although the borders were settled in 1923, there have been some changes (the Dodecanese in 1947) and alterations to international law that have led to the tensions we have seen recently. With goodwill, they would actually be relatively easy to resolve. Sadly, that is lacking in the current climate. We just need to hope that tensions don’t flare up again and lead to conflict. It is really worrying.
@dimitriospapadopoulos1924
@dimitriospapadopoulos1924 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Dear friend, THE instrument to resolve the tension between Turkey-Greece exists! Is called UNCLOS III (United Nations Convention on the Law Of the Sea) No goodwill, no good faith! Just the Law! Then why they don't use it? Ask Turkey. Turkey is not contacting Party of the Convention. I wonder why not!
@dimitriospapadopoulos1924
@dimitriospapadopoulos1924 3 жыл бұрын
@@queenkalliope Bravo! Very accurate opinion!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimitriospapadopoulos1924 No. Goodwill. Even most courts prefers when things are settled amicably between the parties! :-)
@demphotiou
@demphotiou 2 жыл бұрын
@@dimitriospapadopoulos1924 there is no need to go no where...The Treaty Of LAUSANNE is crystal clear....
@aliimran9796
@aliimran9796 3 жыл бұрын
@James Ker-Lindsay Great video James Next video for you to make How did Bosnia get independence and the aftermath
@Universal..
@Universal.. 3 жыл бұрын
Good video sir 👍
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much indeed!
@marie-francebarbier4144
@marie-francebarbier4144 Жыл бұрын
No mention of Haiti being the first country to recognize Greek independence in 1822? It is also reported that Haiti sent massive amounts of coffee to Greece as a ressource that could be sold for weaponry
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I never knew that! Incredible. As someone who works on recognition and Greece, I’d really like to look into this more. Many thanks again.
@greekmapper5531
@greekmapper5531 3 жыл бұрын
Greece maybe didint get all its lands today but we are still standing proud and see what our ancestors have done, and how incredible were the things they had done, greetings from the Hellenic Republic!
@stefanoslyras1187
@stefanoslyras1187 3 жыл бұрын
James is an honor.
@alenema87
@alenema87 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you good job from Ethiopia 👍👍👍
@andrewmichaels5725
@andrewmichaels5725 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you are a good Historian!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much indeed! 🙂 It is a fascinating story and one I had wanted to cover for a while. The bicentennial was a great opportunity.
@Ardit1996
@Ardit1996 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see your view on the partition of the Albanian lands in 1913 and on the Albanian independent movement. And as always great vid.
@Gold26502
@Gold26502 3 жыл бұрын
yes same
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I actually want to a video on Albanian independence as part of this series. It is also such a fascinating story, and one that took a very different direction to the Greek case.
@Gold26502
@Gold26502 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay looking forward to it :)
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 3 жыл бұрын
@@JamesKerLindsay Please include the Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus of 1914 in it, so our Albanian friends learn some real history they hide them.
@arbanitpelasgoillyrian1341
@arbanitpelasgoillyrian1341 3 жыл бұрын
@@aokiaoki4238 Jamie dident mentioned Arvanit are Albanian the same as Arberesh of Italy so is story is made up from fake country and 1821 was not greek warr of independent but for freedom of people just after the war the great powers made this fake nacion
@ChillakoC92
@ChillakoC92 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't only the Ionian islands that didn't experience Ottoman occupation. The Mani peninsula and the Souli area also kept their independence
@iraklismel
@iraklismel 3 жыл бұрын
new greek history simplyfied excellent!!!
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 3 жыл бұрын
Hellenes is just the Greek version of Greeks.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. That I do know. :-)
@marcopolo2395
@marcopolo2395 3 жыл бұрын
It hearts me we lost Smyrna and East Thrace. They were always greek. So sad
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
You didn’t lose anything.
@marcopolo2395
@marcopolo2395 3 жыл бұрын
@@khaybar6108 so constantinople never fell? the turks built it, right?
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcopolo2395 No don’t be stupid and it’s pronounced Konstantinopojë and written the same way since he was Illyrian. The Turks changed its name to Istanbul.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcopolo2395 as I said Greece lost nothing, only gained. If we are talking about the real Greece then Peloponnese maybe with the islands like Create and other small islands too south of Greece because Korfuz is Albanian and Chamëria alois the real Greece. Anything more then Peloponnese is stolen. Stolen territories by Greece. Korfuz, Chamëria, Aegen Macedonia and Thrace. Konstantinopojë belong to Byzantium Empire not Greece. Byzantium Empire lost it in battle not Greece. It’s named after an Illyrian Constantine the Great.
@khaybar6108
@khaybar6108 3 жыл бұрын
So don’t give me nonsense that you lost anything. You only gained.
@panagiotisdouvris8738
@panagiotisdouvris8738 3 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you mentioned Constantinopole more than one time,unfortunately we lost our change to retake it and the east Thrace too athough we had the opportunity in 1920
@stephanos2758
@stephanos2758 3 жыл бұрын
perfect pronunciation of the greek language.. kudos to you sir!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I actually speak Greek. (I lived in both Greece and Cyprus.) But it’s not often I am accused of perfect pronunciation. It might sound good over a couple of words, but any longer than that and I most definitely sound like a Brit butchering Greek. 😂
@Pan472
@Pan472 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you got everything right, except a minor detail about the population. It actually might probably stand at 11.3 million, because there was a terrible mistake in the 2011 demographic census from which all estimates stem from, and left out 500-700 thousand permanent inhabitants unrecorded. This was realised after Eurostat's comparable data. But otherwise perfect video 💙🇬🇷
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification! 🙂🙏🏻 I was going on the Eurostar data so that makes sense.
@dinoscobra0153
@dinoscobra0153 3 жыл бұрын
2:30 you have a map that is says Macedonia which is not true. It’s North Macedonia. Other than that great video.
@charadradam9985
@charadradam9985 2 жыл бұрын
a very respectful and historical accurate video about greece. i would like to mention that you could had included the most importart tries of the older revolutions that tried to set greece free like the great revolution of the 1770 , the known as orlofika, that had much impact on the generation that started the revolution of 1821, 50 years later. the revolution of 1821 was not just one revolution but the last succesful try for the greeks to set free.
@blava3155
@blava3155 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I have one note which is that I think Bulgaria retook Western Thrace from Greece during WW2 before ofc losing it again.
@fieralbaniafieralbania1135
@fieralbaniafieralbania1135 2 жыл бұрын
How do you explain the fact that the main figures of the revolution in Greece were Albanians like Marko Bocari, Kollokotroni, Zhapa. Didn't they know that the country they were liberating was called Greece ?? !!! How do you explain the fact that in these times half of the population Greek was Albanian ??? !!!!
@cheeseofultimatedoom
@cheeseofultimatedoom 2 жыл бұрын
Name checks out
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Theodoros Kolokotronis, such an Albanian name
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