Green Lantern/Green Arrow by O’Neil & Adams

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An overview of the thirteen issue, early 70’s run by the creative team of Denny O’Neil and Neal Adams.
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@dfcsons 4 жыл бұрын

That image of the two screaming in each other's faces is one of the most enduring in the entire industry.

@SnakeRoadComicsOfficial3677 Жыл бұрын

And without context, it's hilarious.

@IsiahTomas 3 ай бұрын

"Fighting the good fight."

@MutantsInDisguise 19 күн бұрын

That artwork was done years later, though.

@ShinoSarna 4 жыл бұрын

It's funny when you think about it - everyone knows that this storyline saved and defined Green Arrow as a character, but I only now learned that Green Lantern was on the verge of cancellation. For all we know, this run also saved Hal Jordan from obscurity and helped GL become one of DC's top properties.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 жыл бұрын

You know, that's a good point. Green lantern could have gotten canceled and faded away to obscurity if this experimentation hadn't occurred.

@beefgravystudios 4 жыл бұрын

In an alternate universe this run never happened and GL was cancelled. Instead of a GL shirt in my closet I have a Plastic man shirt.

@boscopappas234 2 жыл бұрын

@hehoneverhits You’re absolutely right. Hal Jordan was thought of as the old guy with the gray hair. I remember how shocked I was that the “Reign of the Supermen” event crossed over into Green Lantern’s series (# 46 I think?) because his character has such a low profile in 1992. Geoff Johns not only resurrected Hal Jordan, he restored him to a prominence the character had never really had previously.

@jimgillespie6109 4 жыл бұрын

I've always considered Green Arrow's liberal politics to be a socially acceptable variation of Robin Hood's code of "robbing from the rich to give to the poor." Arrow was always intended to be a modern day Robin Hood, but could never embrace Robin's outlaw ways for obvious reasons. However, as a passionate liberal, he could stand up up for the "little guy" against "The Man" (or "The System"), and these are the stories where this began.

@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 3 жыл бұрын

6:40 funny. For a guy called “Speedy”, heroine certainly isn’t the drug you’d expect him to get hooked on.

@KardboardKenny 2 жыл бұрын

R.I.P. both Mr's O'Neil and Adams.

@caligulapontifex5759 4 жыл бұрын

Neal Adams does give Stan Lee credit for being the first to break the Comic Code Authority's strangle hold on the industry with those Amazing Spider-Man issues.

@DavidTSmith-jn5bs 4 жыл бұрын

I met and talked with Neal Adams at NY Comicon regarding this series-within-series. He basically said what you cited regarding his drug issue idea preceding Stan Lee's Spider-man "non-code issues." He was grateful that the Spider-man issues opened the door for his and Denny's story regardless of the timing. He's a great guy and he was generous with his time at the con.

@StrangeBrainParts 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome. I've been told he's a very charismatic gentleman that interacts very well with the fans. Good to hear another story that confirms this.

@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 жыл бұрын

@@StrangeBrainParts he once cut me off in traffic, and when I protested he threw a dirty diaper in my face

@youraveragecrownofthorns8919 4 жыл бұрын

@@noneofyourbusiness4616 I am very sorry to hear this...i'm sure that was an emotionally polarizing incident. Please hang in there!

@StrangeBrainParts 4 жыл бұрын

@None of Your Business - Neal Adams carrying dirty diapers with him when he travels is a proven urban legend. So, I find your version of events...suspect.

@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 жыл бұрын

@@StrangeBrainParts It was actually a copy of the comic "Mr. T and the T-Force," but it read like a dirty diaper.

@youraveragecrownofthorns8919 4 жыл бұрын

I owned this material in various printings over the years, but never the original issues. Never was overly hyped about the stories, but the art was certainly in a class by it's self.

@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author 4 жыл бұрын

Who would win in a battle of wits: Big green magic space cop man, or one green pointy-sticked beardy anarchy boi?

@DzustComics 4 жыл бұрын

What I'd give for a softcover trade of that book!

@brunofranco4416 4 жыл бұрын

i always heard about this storyline but didnt know the specifics. Thanks a lot!

@StrangeBrainParts 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I'm glad I could clarify the series for you.

@jonfowler7182 3 жыл бұрын

"This veracity of the anecdote is...difficult to confirm." :)

@beefgravystudios 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for choosing this one. Shows people can work together and be friends despite differing political views. What a concept.

@hillside21 2 жыл бұрын

It is also worth noting that Gil Kane worked on the Spiderman drug story series at Marvel, and that was initiated by the US Dept of Health, Education and Welfare.

@thepowerout 4 жыл бұрын

ace video, as always!

@StrangeBrainParts 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@javib2978 9 ай бұрын

I learned about societal expectations. Phew. For me, at the idea of societal expectations are not forced upon me or many people at the very least. Instead the term "societal expectations" depends for many people in their lives and ideals. As in what is going to happen or believing how people will become in society. Not to be forced or pressured. It just takes time. This is what happened to many generations ago as well.

@javib2978 9 ай бұрын

I believe Margaret Thatcher wanted to deal against corruption in the political landscape of Britain. She doesn't want to embrace this view. Margaret Thatcher is not having it.

@JohnMinehan-lx9ts 4 ай бұрын

Adams did do a drug story . . . . in the second Deadman story in Strange Adventures in 1967 and the CCA approved it for some reason.

@tokkyu6497 4 жыл бұрын

I love this part of the sliver age green lantern

@tyrport 3 ай бұрын

It was more than a little preachy. I was an eleven year old kid and it made me mad. It wasn’t balanced. The duo of creators were in love with no powers super heroes which is weird. The art was fantastic and carried the books.

@alfieingrouille1528 10 ай бұрын

I have the ominous of this run I love it was so good I kinda need to reread it

@richardmapa2585 Ай бұрын

Omnibus..?.

@toxsun Жыл бұрын

7:50 I always looked at this cover as Hal getting a little back at Ollie with that statement.

@anibal5845 2 жыл бұрын

I don't know, everyone is saying how great it is that O'Neal balanced conservatism and liberalism but it sounds like he just leaned the narratives left.

@tonyyoung3985 4 жыл бұрын

Did you cover the Mike Grell issues immediately afterward too?

@Maxwell03 4 жыл бұрын

I might be wrong, but I don't think that the O'Neil/Grell issues have ever been collected. Which is a shame, considering how great Mike Grell's solo Green Arrow run is.

@tonyyoung3985 4 жыл бұрын

@@Maxwell03 It just came out in hardcover. It's called "Space Travelling Heroes" would love a revie.

@Maxwell03 4 жыл бұрын

@@tonyyoung3985You're right. Although the final few issues still aren't collected. To my knowledge it's up in the air if they will be reprinted.

@youraveragecrownofthorns8919 4 жыл бұрын

On a related note, the recent Green Lantern 80th anniversary 100 pg spectacular contained a short piece by O'neil and Grell, done just for that book. Possibly the final material O'neil had published before his passing

@bradenhogan2 3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the All in the Family of DC Comics

@juanvazquez5036 Жыл бұрын

I am a fan of Marvel comics, but I love DC Comics because of the things that this video demonstrates. The wiliness that DC Comics had to experiment with their characters and the williness to tell distinct types of stories and take risks. Look at Alan Moore on Swamp Things, Grant Morrison's the Invisibles, Animal Man and his superhero stories, The Specter, Statman and Hitman in the 90s, Vertigo Comics, and the Waller vs. WildStorm from its Black Label. Mature comics. Yes DC Comics had make mistakes and had its misfires but Marvel is too pedestrian with its comics.

@samuelleelongworth536 4 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to read preview catalogs from 2004-2006 hahaha they're hard to find was hoping someone could assist

@garytucker3563 Жыл бұрын

Imagine if Dwayne McDuffie didn't pass away when he did and JLA Unlimited continued a little longer...bet you he would have did a versioxn this with Stewart, Queen, and......Kara Zor El......?😮

@OptimusNero Жыл бұрын

Superman: "Darkseid intends to destroy the Earth with his Anti-Life equation!" Green Arrow: "Then we must stop him at any cost. I don't religiously pay my taxes just to have someone destroy my planet!" Green Lantern: "You say that because, being rich, you don't mind giving money to the State. There are others who can't afford so many luxuries and yet, politicians still take their money, you know?" Superman: "Guys..." Green Arrow: "Without taxes we wouldn't have roads, sewers and many other things that make life easier, you know?" Green Lantern: "So what? If I don't give my money away willingly, it's still theft, no matter what it's used for." Superman: "Guys..." Green Arrow: "Your financial situation is good enough to easily give away a small percentage of your earnings each month, Hal. It's not that bad for you!" Green Lantern: "But it's not as stable as that of a rich man like you, you know? Also, Carol wants with all her soul that I get her pregnant. How do you want me to give the love of my life a child if the money that should support my son is spent by the president's at parties?! Anyway, I don't think you care about the baby my girl wants, considering that you didn't care at all about the one that Dinah had in her womb for only 4 weeks..." Superman: "Guys!" Green Arrow: "Dinah is a grown and responsible woman! She can do whatever she pleases with her body!" Green Lantern: "That "My body, my rules" philosophy means sh*t if it's at the cost of the life of someone who can't even defend themselves. If both of you made a mistake, then grow up and take responsibility for your actions!" Superman: "Guys!" Green Arrow: "How curious that you care about beings that have not yet been born, while you don't mid about all the children who die of misery for not being able to enter America!" Green Lantern: "Any foreigner is welcome as long as they do so following the Law. If you allow them to enter without the legal procedures, you are inviting them to not respect the law at all!" Superman: "GUYS!!!!" Green Lantern/Arrow: "WHAT?!" Superman: "Darkseid has destroyed the Earth while you were arguing..." Green Lantern/Arrow: "...He started it" *Point to each other*

@luminus9556 4 жыл бұрын

I love how this run balances the two political views without forcing one. Now that's how you do politics.

@koushiro86 Жыл бұрын

*ahchoo* someone must have invoked false equivalence, that always makes my nose act up

@alfieingrouille1528 10 ай бұрын

@@koushiro86 ?

@tolfan4438 3 жыл бұрын

I think that page with the three panels with the black man is the most powerful page in all of comic book history

@therussiancomicbookgeek 4 жыл бұрын

Speedy...What’s in a name?

@shengcer Ай бұрын

GA as a leftist, except he shot boy scout which clearly was a symbol of government in Miller's view.

@uranuslad9855 4 жыл бұрын

I remember how "powerful" that scene in the first issue was when I was a child. Now that I've grown some, I realize that the guy for some reason didn't realize who GL was and what he actually did, and didn't seem to think he himself was a native of Earth, and was saved along with the rest of the fricking planet most times GL went into action. Hal never did ANYTHING for a specific "white" person other than Carol Ferris, so was the old guy offering to date Hal?

@khumomasokoane3722 4 жыл бұрын

😂😂I thought I was the only one that realized how strange that scene was. I always just found it dumb.

@RockandrollNegro 3 жыл бұрын

It would have been way more iconic a moment if in response to "what about muh oppression" GL would have said "I've saved your ass dozens of times along with everyone elses, and you're asking me what I've done for you? What have you done for me, Mr. Victim? That's what I thought. You're welcome, btw." Then GL flies off as the black man says " Motherfu..."

@notfromhere8889 3 жыл бұрын

It's not perfect but the black man does reference GL's world saving ability. He just points out that GL has the ability to do more...if he cares to. Many in GL's position would ignore the plea but some would become stronger heroes.

@uranuslad9855 3 жыл бұрын

@@notfromhere8889 That's ridiculous. The old geezer never once suggests what Hal's ring would be capable of doing, since he has no clue. Likely what he's hoping for is the soft fascism that Inza Nelson employed as Dr. Fate, which was ultimately shown to be a step too far. The old coot should be GRATEFUL that the Earth he LIVES on was saved repeatedly, rather than whining about his personal issues.

@therussiancomicbookgeek 4 жыл бұрын

😎 cool

@albertlopez2237 2 жыл бұрын

Is anyone watching this in 2022

@alexalbaugh6972 Жыл бұрын

"The fascism of the leftists" bruh

@koushiro86 Жыл бұрын

literal nonsense, a perfect fit for fantasy comics

@darnis6497 Жыл бұрын

@@koushiro86 delusional

@alfieingrouille1528 10 ай бұрын

You know it can happen right?

@guillesuperior Ай бұрын

Fascism isn’t exclusive of the right

@ottosixtysix8546 4 жыл бұрын

The books were very much of their time. An approach to telling a different kind of story with Hal (conservative) dealing with Oliver (liberal) over issues relevant to the audience. Problem was, comics fans want rock'm sock'm evil aliens who don't resemble anyone even remotely recognizable to real world counterparts. Head in the sand? Sure. But there are other places where con vs lib issues can be hashed out. I, for one, never forgave Denny and Neal making Speedy addicted to drugs. Being raised in the 50s, I see comics as "Funny Books" there to escape the humdrum of everyday problems. That said, you've done a damn fine job, as always, of encapsulating a chunk of Comics History. Thanks for that!

@johnminehan1148 4 жыл бұрын

The odd thing is that, as John Broome had written the character from 1959-'70, you would expect Hal Jordan to be more liberal (or at least humanistic) in his outlook. The character had been willing to buck authority (The Guardians) to do what was right, and was respected by the Guardians for doing so..

@CosmoShidan 4 жыл бұрын

@@johnminehan1148 I'd argue that both Hal and Ollie are both liberals but from two different strands. Hal being more of a classical liberal, while Ollie is more of a social liberal or social democrat. They both have the same goals in terms of freedom, but the former believes in retributive justice, while the latter is rehabilitative justice.

@johnminehan1148 4 жыл бұрын

The thing is, John Broome, when he was writting the book, had done "relevant" stories like GL #69, which concerned student protests and change or GL # 12, which concerned a thinly disguised version of the Challe Putsch is France in 1962 (set in 58,000 AD). (Broome was living in Paris at the time.) As Broome (and Fox) had handled the charactor, Hal Jordan was always seen as an "outside the box," decisive guy who tried to balance the "needs of the many" with the "needs of the few." That is why O'Neil handling of the charactor after # 76 never rang true t me and dd not tally with O'Neil's own earlier stories like # 72.

@CosmoShidan 4 жыл бұрын

@@johnminehan1148 Now that makes pre-O'Neil/Adams Hal Jordan even more of a liberal, in the philosophical sense; that is, he sounds more like a Hegelian liberal who tries to have it both ways by increasing human flourishing.

@JohnMinehan-lx9ts 4 ай бұрын

@@CosmoShidan I think Broome based Jordan on USAAF Fighter Pilots he had served with in WWII, confident, brave, idealistic and a bit overbearing and hyper-competitive. There is something of the popular image of John Kennedy in the portrayal.

@itsnotme987 4 жыл бұрын

God this run is overrated

@itsnotme987 3 жыл бұрын

Dark Wolf it’s a half ass attempt

@itsnotme987 3 жыл бұрын

Dark Wolf the people praising it cause they are told it’s good . I read it and it’s boring af

@itsnotme987 3 жыл бұрын

Dark Wolf I agree gl saves all of 2814 which means he’s saved the world over and over . And that the people couldn’t solve their own problem seemed kinda dumb

@alfieingrouille1528 10 ай бұрын

I read and I loved it

@JohnMinehan-lx9ts 4 ай бұрын

I thought #76 was solid and #89 is close to a masterpiece, the rest are well intentioned but uneven.@@itsnotme987

@Mr.DeeTea 4 жыл бұрын

'Arguably the most famous three panels in comic book history." No.....just no. Not even close. Any random 3 panels out of Dark Knight or Watchmen or many other masterpieces would be much more famous than these three panels.

@coolguy0926 2 жыл бұрын

Watchmen and Dark Knight wouldn’t have happened if this run never happened. Watchmen is filled with political symbolism and questions against the modern superhero trope. Rorschach’s character literally expresses how his fascism impacts his morals and acts of heroism. Gotham has always been used as a device for anti-fascism and he corruption impacts life.

@alfieingrouille1528 10 ай бұрын

Bro is mad

@nohbuddy1 11 ай бұрын

But comics aren't supposed to have politics

@alfieingrouille1528 10 ай бұрын

No one has ever said that wdym by that?

@vaderetro264 4 жыл бұрын

5:58 Well, it looks like he was spot on about the feminist movement. So called liberated women hate either men and their feminine nature.

@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 жыл бұрын

Spoken like someone who hasn't had listened to what women are saying and prefers to watch KZfaq videos which reinforce his fears and resentments.

@tomlandon209 4 жыл бұрын

I sincerely doubt that YOU ever listened to a liberal woman long enough to know what she thought!

@beefgravystudios 4 жыл бұрын

They also attack other women that don't share their views

@noneofyourbusiness4616 4 жыл бұрын

@@beefgravystudios I'm sure none of those women who don't share their views have been attacking them... inconceivable. It's all naughty feminists causing trouble!

@beefgravystudios 4 жыл бұрын

@@noneofyourbusiness4616 Naughty feminists causing trouble just need their cellulite covered ass spanked by a firm but fair male hand to remind them how to treat others.

@britshell 4 жыл бұрын

The first SJW comic... ugh.

@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 3 жыл бұрын

Man. You’re making SJWs sound pretty good. But no. Comics aren’t allowed to tackle sociopolitical issues. They have to be about absolutely nothing and have no message at all! Unless of course I agree with it, in which case it’s good. Are Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns also SJW comics?

@britshell 3 жыл бұрын

@@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770 When you grow up you will understand.

@shortstuf1105 3 жыл бұрын

@@britshell I don't really like books that are preachy, but comics are a narrative art form where the artist can choose to make a story about whatever. Discrediting any and every book because someone tells you it's SJW propaganda is just plain stupid. Seeing opposing views in any media and actually thinking about it instead discrediting it because you're told by others that it's stupid might help you stop being a little boy with his dad's shoes on.

@britshell 3 жыл бұрын

@@shortstuf1105 I bet you would change your tune if you disagreed withe message of the book. But since it confirms your bias you say we should all read it and take it's message into consideration.

@shortstuf1105 3 жыл бұрын

@@britshell I honestly think it's very important to look at opinions that completely go against your morals/values and consider why you think the way you think. Most of my friends are polar opposites to me politically and in regards to thoughts on social issues. Do I only talk about politics or thoughts on social issues? No. But I think those conversations and experiences with media are extremely important to not exist in a constant circle of confirmation with no outside or controversial opinions.

@HailEarendil Жыл бұрын

The woke stuff back in the day was just as cringe as now.

@alfieingrouille1528 10 ай бұрын

Nah it was way better back then

@HailEarendil 10 ай бұрын

@@alfieingrouille1528 Actually, you are right. At least it was counter culture back then, and being done by mostly competent people.. not hacks and shills.