Rack off

Murph #51 was awesome

detroit nelson let them have an opinion the world doesn’t revolve around your opinion

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If only Holden sold em with a factory turbo option

Jeremy techically speaking, holden and ford still use engines based on those from 60s and 70s

That's pretty apt Lucius. The 60s and 70s are where most Supercar fans are stuck.....the time when V8's ruled before things like turbos became a common thing in cars.

But as the name suggests now - Supercars, not touring cars. A touring car series would see alot better racing especially at Bathurst like it was before, in the era we are talking about.

Where cars were winning by laps instead of seconds? Anyone who complains about the level of competitiveness in modern supercar racing is viewing the past with very rose coloured glasses.

Today it's all about the drivers. Everycar in V8 supercars is exactly that, exact same formula tube chassis supercar. All identicle, same power, same suspension. Nothing actually local holden or ford except the panels. The better driver wins, the more reliable car wins. Boring for me because I like to see what manufacturers can bring to the track to win or to have the edge over the others.

lukaku20wba i like the v6 in f1 more than the v8 in sound...sounds unique

having heard both in person, the f1 6's sound 10 times better lol

F1 sound puts me to sleep lol

NurbKingSim True. The cameras miss a lot of the noise

agreed .....i couldnt keep my eyes open at F1 in Austin - the sound was hypnotic

Lol nothing happened after this “development”

fuk yeh

Umm that wasn't a prototype lol its the model about to be released to the public or the model that has just been released to the public

@@bluehornet197 definitely not

@@mattymaher3 umm year mate lol the monaro that Peter Brock drove in the 03 bathurst 1000 was the model the new monaro that was about to be released you can even look that up

It only costs 250k

You didn’t do shit

Most left foot brake with sequentials neway, if they don't they ain't doing it right.....

everyone racer left foot brakes... its not the 80s

Michael Billings There is still gonna be V8s you know.

Sassil the Sasquatch! If you mean in Supercars? You're wrong :/ it's unfortunate but they seem to be going down the same path as formula 1 down grading engine size to lower emissions (don't quote me on that) but we'll get the same times and stuff.... But I'm gonna miss the sounds of those V8s just like I miss the sounds of the V10s in formula 1

Agreed!!!!

Rochelle Murguia and you ruined this comment section

10 years time f1 will be on pushbike, v8 supercars will be 31cc single cylinder skate boards why do emissions matter when its 15 to 25 cars racing for a few hours once every few weeks ffs.......cut emissions on road cars and leave race cars to roam freely in their natural habitat! its like painting a leopard bright pink or removing a lions teeth! rant over.! maybe

Noel Burland - you're very kind using the phrase 'traditionalists', I'd say something along the lines of 'v8 knuckle draggers'...

Aor87 The traditionalists remember the days of 4s and 6s mixing it up. Of Minis going up the inside of Mustangs at the elbow and then getting blown into the weeds down conrod. Traditionalists remember Peter Williamsons Celica making Camaros look slow. The history of Bathurst is all about different sizes of cars and engines going at it.

I'm going to miss a full field of V8's, but time marches on. As long as the racing is good I'll still be watching. Like many, I look at the various series' and wonder what the future holds. In 20 years most cars sold will probably be either full electric of hybrids, and will drive themselves (and if you choose a car without self-drive, your insurance premiums will probably be higher).

What till they are freaking electric.

Noel Burland everything you just said couldn’t be any further from the truth.

A hectic beloved turbo? That's what habib means.

Literally cracking up right now😂😂

Lol

look up hectic habib and his canary yellow vl turbo

DVN no he didnt. He meant habib. Hectic Habib VL Turbo

Ofitus 21 sounds horrible

Sounds like an old Audi S1 Group B rally car which sounded awesome back in their prime.

detroit nelson It is a phrase used to show amazement or shock. Unlike you I won't immaturely insult you

Don't bother dude, that person is just a troll, leave them be, they want attention.

The flutter's about the only good thing. Sounds very European and mild, like it could do a 24 hr or something

Funny you should say that as McLaren are the current owners of the Mt Panorama lap record.

Bhahahahahaha looooseeeerr

@@matgee8892 In a Mclaren Mercedes which was way better than the mclaren honda

@@thespookymilkman7015 actually for a while the Mclaren GT3 car held the lap record driven by Shane Van Gisburgen in one of the Bathurst 12 hours, Jensens lap in the Mclaren Mercedes is the unofficial lap record however both the Mclaren Merc and the gt3 are faster than Mclaren Honda 😂

The most successful f1 car of all time is a Mclaren Honda. The mp4.

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Cant stand Murphy, he throws tantrums and is rude asf. Plenty of other kiwi drivers that would of loved to take his place

He punted Ambrose all the way the God damn US and A.

@@Gman1044 Lets not forget what he did to Bargwana as well. The guy is a full time fuckwit.

What about Scott McLaughlin? Greg's was 2:06.8594, Scott's was 2:03:8312, 3 seconds faster is much quicker.

@@BatMan-oe2gh Someone didn't get the joke

Minh Le so much slower than f1

Wz Tr your point?

joe mudda just f1 is really quiet the noise

Sorry

Minh Le fair enough friend

Twin turbo or put a blower on that ute NOW!!! Or put the Buick V6, built for big boost in her and get 1000+HP. Of V6 powa baby. i have an Ecotec turbo that's ran high 9s with a bad rear end and other issues, due to spending everything on the motor ans drive train so far. Shes had major top and bottom end work. Runs a single 92mm turbo and haltech ECU. Wasn't too laggy even before nitrous, having a few more cubes than most jap cars and once made a 1311hp 40psi hub dyno pull! But unlike when I was pushing stockish V6s to their limits, I now have to turn it down to make sub 10 passes 😂 I could have 2X900-1500hp, reliable LS engines for what I spent on the boosted mang engine.

Obviously the V8 is wonderful, but this is not a bad sound. At least, it sounds better than other V6TT

This is a good sounding motor but nothing compares to the v8 sound.

Steven Alush im a huuugggeee turbo straight 6 over v8 guy...but wtf are they thinking?? Dont fuck with something thats not broken! It was only getting better with other manufacturers coming into the sport...now we have this to look forward too! 😔🤧😱

Meh, but it still looks like an Aussie made Holden cos it is. When its that heap of crap Opel, yeah just great..

While I agree with you, sadly the supporters saying they prefer a V8 but with sales down most supporters not driving locally produced cars, its just how it is.

Probably not as fast as the V8 Commodore considering this was a sandman without the same aero

Well it's as boring as it possibly could be even though it's got the best drivers ever now.

ben pasquale the whole point was to get rid of the GTR and to some extent the ford turbo too. It has taken 20 years for the old v8s to catch up, they are now only a few seconds faster than 20 year old cars without all the Aero........ think about that. I miss Godzilla! Rarrrrrrrh.

which means the gtr and serrias will be able to come back

might start watching again hate the v8's with a passion. look like taxis can't tell them apart

I've got to agree. The current series is boring, and I've been following the categories since the early 80's. Group C was fantastic, what a mix of engines and cars in the field. The new twin turbo does sound great, looks bloody quick too.

Yeah open it right up, get the mini's back in spanking big engines on the mountain, holden V ford is like a crusty nugget dangling off australia's ass, cut the thing loose. Bringing variety to a race is more appealing then a stupid grudgematch between 2 dead manifacturers

detroit nelson The team who builds and designs parts for all teams and this V6TT is called Red Bull Holden Racing Team, commonly abbreviated to simply "Red Bull". You fucken degenerate.

I want to know as well

Matthew Smyk It was about a 2:16.

Crosses the line @ 0:19 & 2:35 so roughly 2:16, but it looked like he wasn't going 100%, lifted well early before the chase

Matthew Smyk I'd bet it's not near the 2.03 the v8 put down.

he deeeefinitely wasn't going 100%. it's a development car still, not a machine that's in race trim

About 13 seconds slower per lap. Now that Scotty Mclaughlin did his 2:03.8 in the Top Ten.

They weren't actually "racing" it, it was just a demo. That being said Dane has said it still needs some work, but they don't introduce it until 2019. Theoretically it should be quite capable though - the appeal of a V6TT is that it has really good power output with a *lot* less weight. That being said, the Supercars rules suggest they would be equalising the cars so if you're using a V6TT you have to weigh the car down. It's an odd plan...

It had a great note at the track. (Even said to Roland Dane and Greg Murphy at the time it sounded like an Audi S1 rally car to which they half chuckled and agreed with)

Ethan Bradberry They are V6 so the barra will never be used

Private user. They won't be using your so much loved BARRA so you can forget about that

barra is shit and they are out of production so fuck off please :)

Fuck off back to China you stupid Panda

Sim00110 I bet he's actually just a bogan. They love their Holdens and ever non-Holden is automatically terrible. They'd prefer to drive a Barina over a 5-series.

Still struggle to keep up Holden domination

This isn't going to be the model you'll be seeing. This is just a wagon that's show casing the V6 turbo that will be introduced in 2019. Next year (2018) will be featuring the new 'Holden Commondore' model but with the V8 engine under the bonnet. The new 'Commondore' doesn't look great, it's not Australian or have any DNA of previous Commondores in it and people are pissed. The respectful thing to do is call it something else and put a pin in the Commondore name.

Thanks for the update...glad it won't look like a wagon.

Fucking hell it will never be better then the mighty Barra

It's not called V8 Supercars anymore, they dropped the V8 a few years back, it is just Supercars now.

I guess AVESCO will need to change its acronym?

I missed that one

Galarn! I stand corrected but I still call them V8 Supercars

Godzilla Boy Now it is Supercars only. Although a lot of people still call it V8 supercars

Its just a Supercar chassis. It was also the RedBull Drift car that SVG drove as well from memory. But now the Groves own it www.supercars.com/news/championship/triple-eights-sandman-changes-hands/

Sorry correction the drift chassis isn't the Sandman chassis.

Why? It's still all V8s next year. They aren't allowed to introduce the V6TT to the race lineup until 2019, and even then, not everyone will necessarily adopt the V6TT.

there was a storm in australia, they identified it as typhoon

@@zurasho043kranky7 🙌😂

You mean the sound of the music?

@@ryanokeefe12 lap time

Sierra RS500's were doing 2:17's 30 years ago with a 4 cyl engine, bicycle tyres & added parity weights!

Bravo dean you are completely correct

Winning is winning, regardless of displacement.

Unfortunatly the Holden name should die along with the Australian manufacturing of them!

corey boundy Nah, keep the Holden name. I can't support Ford, or Nissan or Merc.

There's some pretty nice shit boxes in Auburn bro.

Except they dropped the V8 from the Supercars name a few years ago. Teams are allowed to develop either a Turbo 4cyl, Twin turbo V6 or naturally aspirated V8

BEEF05 ooh a bit touchy there big boy!?

01ajmc to be fair, they could probably turn up the boost quite easily on these and get some massive power figures

01ajmc back in the 90s, the R32 was just another car, it is lauded by you kids so much because you grew up playing computer games. The Group A Sierras at the time were just as fast but couldn't make their 90s tech tyres go the distance. Or were you too young to watch racing back then?

R Soul I'm a 47 year old "kid"! Yeh the rs500 cosworth sierras were an awesome car aswell, the gtr was the only thing that could keep up with or beat them, Holden v8's had nothing.

01ajmc am glad to hear that, it is just most people who revere the R32 are schoolkids, in this case I am proven to be wrong.

If you are talking about the sound when he lifts off the throttle that isn't the wastegate, it's called flutter or surge and is on the compressor side.

DriftNick the turbo flutter usually is caused by an external wastegate. People usually run no blow off valve and only wastegates to get the flutter.

The sound is from the compressor side, the wastegate is on the exhaust side and has nothing to do with it.

DriftNick as long as there is no air escaping when it does a blow off. Then it will flutter. But with a wastegate the revs open up and everything is wayyyyyyy louder. Everything is louder with a ext wastagate.

Minus the wastegate part you are correct, wastegates have nothing to do with the sound, you could remove the wastegate and the flutter will happen the same.

Technically its a sandman/panelvan sorry

Nztrailriders you should think yourself lucky that Australia had a proud history of making some of the best muscle cars and road cars in the world. And you should also think yourself lucky that Australia has provided your police force with cars for thirty years when they probably would've been driving British shitboxes. Your little island has produced nothing worth speaking of

Captain Kaos We produced Jim Richards

Captain Kaos We split the Atom, we allowed women the vote first, climbed Mt Everest first, first to drive to the south pole, we invented the Hamilton Jet, the Bungee jump, the Britten V1000... plenty happening in Kiwi land. At least you invented the rotary clothes line in Aus though. Good job with that one.

Brem lol thanks mate, we are real proud of the old hills hoist washing line. But in saying that, you kiwis are some smart cookies over there, you have a good car culture too.

Jacob Stofmeel Was the rotary lawn mower Aussie too? I seem to recall something about that.

James Chapman It really doesn’t though, but not as good as a V8.

Absolutely James

1. It doesn't 2. Carrera Cup cars sound amazing

But I love shits...

A carrera cup car is NA, this turboed

Shark1076 Butthurt V8 fanboy

You actually have balls??? Typical Gamer