Hi

EckhartsLadder yessuh

Could you do a breakdown of a Warhammer battle. Perhaps Cadia?

Me: *sees big ships in front of little ships* Also me: Oh yeah, it's all coming together...

Can you do more please

InternetFeline straight up

General- "So call for reinforcements?" Droid - "What?" G - "Look every time the tactical droid says we have a ninety percent chance of victory or victory is a assured we get beaten, so call for reinforcements and prepare a block-aid. "

@@rasgrizrevelations4145 facts though xD

@@rasgrizrevelations4145 no joke I hate those tactical droids so much, they’re just insufferably annoying.

@@MusicFan752 I hate the cheap fucks that kept using them.

I’m not sure but I’d imagine any intelligent navy would have safe guards against that like an access code or something g

@@daenor7807 the thing is, it's his ship

Lol I thought we were talking overall battle tactics, like from moment of engagement

Maybe, although Jedi are known to escape many circumstances and that is an expensive CIS asset

@@andrewgreeb916 I mean, if I was General Grievous I'd give up the Invisible Hand to kill Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ahsoka, and whoever-he-was-again.

ThePhantom OfNightwish thanks lol

@ThePhantom OfNightwish I am more of a.fan of this spelling CoUNT DOOKU

Do you know if either of the CIS ship-types carried fighters? I'm pretty sure Munificents didn't.

Michael J. Oghia Vulture droids can latch on to munificents, but not in large numbers. Grievous’s recusant also has a hangar which can carry fighters.

@@punctuationman334 makes sense!

maybe the author forgot fighters exist. thats not too unrelaistic. sometimes the individual authors, ignore the rules of the universe for it to fit the narrative.

They must have been on a budget.

Right

Plot armor.

And, we do not see a capable commander in the Clone Wars for the CIS until Admiral Trench comes along.

I mean he wasn’t really commanding fleet battles in the 2003 clone wars.

Lowe Expectations he wasnt any tactical mastermind in the 2003 show, stop lying yourself but indeed he was a killing machine and Rasputin the biggest Russian sex machine

I completely agree, it's a great idea

Agreed

Amazing idea do this please

Yes

What is EAW?

I think it is the conundrum between "He is a military genius, which implies being able to win" and "but he is a villain and therefore has to lose." If you need him to lose, have him fight against impossible odds. That way he can lose and be hailed as a military genius for inflicting disproportionate losses.

@Joshua Sharwood If you know what you are doing. That is the problem.

What duel did he lose to a padawan? Every fight between Ahsoka and Grievous resulted in her ass being kicked and forced to escape.

the biggest problem in the clone wars will always be plot armor

The solution is what they did with Thrawn: Give him shitty subordinates, so him losing wasnt his fault

I wouldn't say it was rare or unique. This kind of stuff happenes all the time in Star Wars space battles.

@@177SCmaro it's sarcasm mate

@@mihajlo961x So was I and so is this comment.

@@177SCmaro 😐

@@177SCmaro 😐

Yup. Pretty much.

Plot turbolasers

@MX 3 Most authors aren't the brightest people

@Baldur I wouldn’t say that

​@@mr_confuse It isn't that they're not bright, it's that they don't have any tactical training or, most of the time, any interest in tactics. Writers are more interested in telling a cool story than in tactics. It's unfortunate, but there you are. I do wish that series like the Clone Wars or other war-heavy stories would keep a couple of tactical consultants on staff, though...

Obi Wan doesnt like flying because there is no high ground in space

watchyourlanguage your profile pick is absolutely golden

Oh, burn! Sorry Vader.

Obi-Wan does not only overcome the high ground once, but twice with both Grievous and Maul.

He was to busy getting lightsabres for his fine collection

what're you trying to say about electric fans?

Tartakovsky's micro-series was much better than anything Disney can output. This is the guy behind Samurai Jack, after all.

@@UnlimitedFlyers but both Clone Wars were made under Lucas. Generally I prefer the Clone Wars characters to other versions, particularly prequel movies, but Grevious got the shaft compared to the 2003 version.

The 2003 version is just a whole different animal. It was made to fill in some of the gap between the outbreak of the Clone Wars, all the way to the surprise attack on Coruscant, fleshing out in vivid detail how the Jedi were caught off-guard and Grievous just outsmarted and overpowered them. Compared to that, the Disney Clone Wars is exactly that: _DISNEY_ . It's almost on Kingdom Hearts-level of cartoony, cardboard villains and heroics that save the day through the power of love and friendship.

Like a Leaf in the Wind It wasn’t Disney bro

No Clone Ever Does XD

@@bickenwings1350 wait but it's not Cody, the arms don't match up

A other clone tried it with a droid, broke his hand and got blasted dead...

@@youssefelshenawi8508 tf u talkin bout?

@@commanderpondscc-4112forget his name but he was circled by b2s and b1s punched one and got shot dead

The problem is he usually faces plot armour in the show. How many of his fights are between him and Kenobi or Ahsoka, for instance? As far as cheating goes, you can see a very clear pattern in most of his cheating, that being that it always happens after the force is used against him. As far as strategy and tactics go, clearly he's great at what he does to even have his position, but obsession and overconfidence are his primary character flaws. Canon Grievous clearly isn't as effective as Legends Grievous, but no Canon character is as good as their Legends counterpart. But Grievous being incompetent is a gross over-exaggeration, probably only there because of his 2003 debut. But you don't see anyone saying Canon Windu is bad because he can't punch Super Battle Droids to death. Maul's got the same flaw of obsession, but it rarely hinders him to the same degree because the writers went out of their way to try and make him as cool as possible to the point his flaws mean nothing. Like, Maul being a competent leader is counter to his characterization prior to The Clone Wars, but of course he becomes the competent leader of a group of thugs and then Mandalorians, the "cool soldiers" of Star Wars. Stuff like that. But the presence of Grievous' flaws actually meaning anything is a reason that 'Grievous is a Hero' meme account exists.

That reminds me of the Clone Wars Volume 1 and 2. Shown how much of a badass he was without turning him into an electric fan.

He looked at it as kill the Jedi end the war. He could have easily overcome a clone lead military or any standard issue military his only challenge was Jedi

@@nfldend501 except the Jedi were not particularly good leaders. Why would they be Jedi training prior to the clone wars had nothing to do with military tactics, they were peacekeepers at that point. Just look how often they are the senior commanders but are fighting in the front lines, that's a terrible place for them to be as they have no tactical overview and no way to actually control the battle and respond to what is happening outside their immediate vicinity. Then the tactics they employ frequently consist of heaving infantry advance across open ground under fire despite clones being a valuable resource.

Scylleviathan how was maul set up to be a bad leader in the phantom menace? We barely learn anything about him besides he’s a great warrior, and it makes a great story in TWC.

But he was right to focus his attention on The Flood!

@@fuzzydunlop7928 But your inability to protect eeth koth was a collosal failure!

Oops.

General sounds cooler than admiral.

@@punctuationman334 Is that a joke?

He did launch fighters. They all waited in the hangar armed, and ready. With no ships.

Amen to that

As one of the biggest grievous fans going tcw completely butchered him. The only similarity he had to his eu depiction was the appearance. Tcw fundamentally changed everything else about him even down to his origin

Ah yes the prequels fans favorite excuse to all criticisms: “it was all Palpatine’s plan!”

Borni Ekellem oh ok

Borni Ekellem out of the windu?

Max Smith wheeeeee!

The Dynamic Doggo lol

Grevious won't allow that

At least he's learning...

DS-! Orbital Battle Station: "Wait, you got escorts?"

Bismarck did get an escort tho...

GDS Pathe yeah it did but later Prince Eugen left bismark half way the journey

the Malevolence had very very good maneuverability And the ION cannon which exploits this as being able to target almost anything having an escort would just get in the way

Likewise! Keep it up Ecks :)

Priscilla Joseph facts

You can't defeat plot armour. It's level 12.

Jacen Solo no it is level 999999999999999999999999

@@lovenerds6184 lol. It was a reference to the lvl 12 spell in D&D that lets its user replace a god of their choosing with themselves.

Jacen Solo I don’t play d and d

he does, season 7 of tcw he couldnt resist sticking the knife in one last time with filloni cutting out coruscant which was the one time he couldnt butcher grievous as well as having the narrator refer to him as a droid. His one good showing in the whole of tcw is dathomir and he still gets bodied by ventress which is somebody he curb stomped in 1v2 being him against ventress and durge. Every single character is better because of the clone wars except grievous who gets completely decimated by it.

I'm still so mad he got bodied by gungans fucking gungans

Your right in your point that it can launch fighters from the starboard and port hangars but (And im bringing this up using a reference to Battlefront II) if you recall from those maps those hangars are decently big but still fairly small. only able to hold i'd guess around 10 star fighters or so in total so using both of them that gives you 20 maybe 30 if some are held in reserve suspended over the rest of them on cranes. on the other hand the dorsal hangar can hold over 3X that amount so it would be more logical to use that one over the side ones. Regardless its a good point none the less and i was thinking about it too.

@@thenightman7879 yes but if i remember correctly the ventral hangar is connected to the larger one with the colossal doors so all the fighters can come this way

Isn't there also a hammer door that allows the ships to go our underneath it as well?

Actually, I'm fairly certain all four are. I know for a fact the dorsal bay and the ventral launch bay are connected, we see that when one drops off Gungan reinforcements on Mon Cala(the Gungans drop from the main landing bay out the ventral docking bay through a door at the top, though this may have been a later modification), but I didn't know the flank hangars were connected

@@phantomactual8916 well I think it was via direct hallways rather than places to move fighters.

True, but the galaxy isn't 2-3 planets. They can't concentrate everything in one battle. Also, if they wanted they could've waited for support, but by then Grievous could've escaped. Meanwhile a battle for the capital will obviously involve enormous forces, even more with the chancellor at stake.

@@godji9396 Even so, a battle will incorporate far more than three capital ships and four smaller ships, this is something you'd expect out of a skirmish. A battle would, standardly, incorporate from 6-9 capital warships supported by a larger number of support vessels such as Carrack-class cruisers, Dreadnought-class Cruisers, Republic Attack Corvettes (a Consular with a more trapezoidal bow section armed with laser cannons and concussion missiles, Acclamator carrier variants, etc. And you can bet that the CIS wouldn't leave a super-capital warship like the Recuscant Dreadnought (which makes no sense, by the by, considering it's basically saying that they turned a bloody support destroyer into a dreadnought somehow) supported by only three frigates and no other smaller vessels.

@@shadekerensky3691 Bismarck was supposed to raid British shipping with 3 other ships, lol. There is no set limit on how many ships fight over control of an insignificant planet.

Did you mean the senate?

@@jerec1267 he is the senate

@@zakai-kaz not yet