Grommash Hellscream Vs. Guldan; The Betrayal of Kil'Rogg
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@SteveMan927 жыл бұрын
So we going to talk about how Kil'Rogg's beard grew an extra skull?
@nick308able7 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing lol
@oluftheexplorer94767 жыл бұрын
Leave Blizzard alone. They can barely program a game properly, do you really think they can make anything make sense? LOL xD
@antoniociccocioppo5647 жыл бұрын
lol if blizzard can barely program a game properly, you probably never played a game where coding really sucks. Said thus, the more skulls a character is adorned with, the more his might is. you should know that already fam
@Señor-Donjusticia7 жыл бұрын
SteveMan92 well, you see, when a mommy skull and a daddy skull love each other very much...
@aliezahjuarez57236 жыл бұрын
+Cameron Durrantcameron lol
@BeegBWolf6 жыл бұрын
Gul'dan is persistent like that door to door salesman 😂
@bulgarianmemes35695 жыл бұрын
yeah i thought the same like face it old man nobody wants to drink the green shit you offer all the time :D
@aliezahjuarez12124 жыл бұрын
Lol i agree
@Tyrantlizard1272 жыл бұрын
Or Jehovah's Witness.
@beastmaster09346 күн бұрын
@@Tyrantlizard127 “Do you have a moment of your time to talk about our lord and savior Kil’Jaden?”
@Chewy4277 жыл бұрын
Kil'rogg could've trolled Gul'dan by pouring it over his shoulder
@johnnyscifi7 жыл бұрын
Or slamming it down his throat..."you drink first!!!"
@GeneticAlgorithm7 жыл бұрын
that would be legendary... "upsy daisy! slipped off my haand...."
@thrakerzad58746 жыл бұрын
or just do something really weird like shove it in ur pants for later, it would probably spill tho
@patrickperalta596 жыл бұрын
Johnny.... I like that idea of Kil'rogg slamming the drink down Gul'dan's throat that would have been funny.
@moonsoil7016 жыл бұрын
That so shouldve happened
@sfarmerist7 жыл бұрын
he grew another skull in his beard after drinking it....
@supersma06 жыл бұрын
best expansion ever boooi
@vitcermak77379 күн бұрын
"this will put skulls on your chest"
@catsndogs986 жыл бұрын
Gul Dan best sales person all year every year.
@Dor3263 жыл бұрын
Grommash:My son. The day you were born, the very forests of Nagrand whispered the name, Garrosh. My child. I watched you with pride, as you grew into a weapon. Of rightousness. Remember, our line has always ruled with Honor, and strength. And I know that you will show restraint, when exercising your great power. But the truest victory, my son, is stirring the hearts of your people. I tell you this, for when my days have come to and end. You, shall be Warchief
@taasch2505 Жыл бұрын
Gross, no. Don't sullie the orcs with nonsensical human mentality
@TANGL3_BURR Жыл бұрын
You mean of honor?
@TANGL3_BURR Жыл бұрын
Orcs don't do righteousness
@adventofknowledge11 ай бұрын
My puke just puked more puke reading that. How dare you dishonor both the horde and the Menethil line at the same time with that fancannon quote.
@MegaChickenfish6 жыл бұрын
Gul'dan: Come on Grom, all the cool orcs are doing it!
@Sorrow9936 жыл бұрын
Kil'Rogg actually knew what will happen. He saw his own death.
@Tazkar6 жыл бұрын
"Whelp...I'm gonna get my ass dog piled and beat to death by 20 people looking for loot, this can't be as bad as that'll be."
@eternallegacy896 жыл бұрын
Anyone else find it strange drinking demon blood added a skull to Kilrogg's beard that originally had one?
@Tyrantlizard1272 жыл бұрын
Khorne gave him his blessings.
@alordagana93104 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny Gul'dan carried that cup of Fel around.
@Kacper_Sy6 жыл бұрын
Kil'rogg then proceeded to create the mightiest cereal in the entire universe
@TheRogueminatorАй бұрын
Lol 😅
@CptVanguard7 жыл бұрын
And to me we have one of the best cinematics ever in this one scene, and people dont even realize how subtly powerful it is: Gul'dan throws Grom the axe of Garrosh, proclaiming Garrosh , his son. In the short story prior to this expansion, Garrosh could NEVER tell Grom the truth due to the shit-storms of time shenanigans, thus, this is the first time ever, grom learns that Garrosh is his son. The subtle acting in his tone and his expression was perfect from the animation POV "Garrosh... My... *Son*?" That confused stare, that sigh of revalation, that baleful glare at Gul'dan, in this moment, Grom realized what Garrosh was trying to tell him, to never, fall into the same trap that Grommash of the MU did.
@shawnfady35296 жыл бұрын
too bad the animation is shit
@zannibalable9 ай бұрын
your comment is bullshit since we tell the truth to grommash in the nagrand levelling quest chain many patch before this one....He is just sad to lose his son, but he knew garrosh identity
@badrinath53068 ай бұрын
Basically your logic is just confirming grom had an unknown illicit affair...... in this timeline garrosh didn't exist.
@ioannisparaskevopoulos24896 жыл бұрын
If i'll ever become a Barkeeper, I will act like Gul'Dan fo' sure.
@Zasheir_6 жыл бұрын
KIL'ROGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@IAmChris74232 жыл бұрын
Y’all gunna miss Gul’dan in a few years. WOW! He was the greatest, GREATEST villain you were ever treated to. Legend.
@Tyrantlizard1272 жыл бұрын
And Illidan just dusts him like a common grunt. Gonna be honest, being killed by the very power he used to kill billions is poetic justice at its finest.
@rustyshackelford4613 Жыл бұрын
Not even close to being the greatest villain. Also think that killroggs betrayal makes no sense and is poor writing
@julianz75557 ай бұрын
Does Arthas just not exist to you?
@teencomment7 жыл бұрын
If they ever do remasters of Warcraft I wouldn't mind the cutscenes being in this engine.
@Xalocin4 жыл бұрын
Well well...
@patriousthefallenknight31856 жыл бұрын
Gul'dan was the best character along with Blackhand in WoD
@NicolasPine6 жыл бұрын
It's almost like Gul'dan knows that Thrall cheated in Mah'Kora
@ciba88144 жыл бұрын
Thrall didn't cheat... mages.. shamans... their magic is allowed in Mak'gora... Fel Magic or that shit Sylvanas used aren't... Shamans are honored by Orcs and they like them...so Thrall didn't technically cheat... it could be considered as cheating if Mak'gora participants agree with each other not to use it.... i doubt Garrosh and Thrall did that..
@bunnieskitties2934 жыл бұрын
@@ciba8814 Mak'gora has very specific rules. Technically the first of which is no magic. However, if it is an exception it is under the pretense it is their weapon. Thrall wielded the legendary Doomhammer as his weapon. You are not allowed a second. No body armor. You fight bare chested, Thrall donned the impenetrable Warchief's armor handed down from Ogrim. Both parties must have a witness. Garrosh was permitted no such witness. He was allowed to die without any to tell of his fate, while Thrall had many witnesses on his side. The only thing shown is the agreement to Mak'gora, which means by its rules. Thrall Cheats. He cheats hard. He saw himself losing to a superior warrior and took the cowards way out, which is why he was punished by the very elements he abused in dishonor, losing the power to wield Doomhammer at all.
@kiemugen983028 күн бұрын
I didnt play wow since pandas but as I understand grown Garrosh is from future no? so Grommash should have a spare baby Garrosh?
@metal_monocle73344 күн бұрын
@@kiemugen9830 No, WoD Grom lost his mate in an ogre raid before siring any children. That's why Kairoz chose *this* exact version of Draenor.
@fgcaccount6 жыл бұрын
A little known side effect from drinking the blood of Mannoroth is that it for some reasons doubles the amount of skulls in your beard
@josephemeraldt3350 Жыл бұрын
I like how the fel juice made a second skull materialize on his beard to show he leveled up lol
@asherwilliams44106 жыл бұрын
I got you to 200 sub's I'm the 200th
@Tommybotham7 жыл бұрын
Grom Hellscream killed Mannaroth... Yet Gul'dan was able to subdue him? Bullshit.
@DartLuke7 жыл бұрын
It is parallel Hellscream.
@svarthert84507 жыл бұрын
grommash killed mannoroth in wod too, get real duuude
@devincampbell50077 жыл бұрын
The Grommash in WoD was able to kill Mannoroth because of the smoke
@Marksman34347 жыл бұрын
Critical Strike, bro
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm7 жыл бұрын
Wasn't our Grom also a Blademaster? I mean he was said to be an extremely skilled warrior, unlike his WoD Brute Version. He was also more slim and agile. And it's still an impressive feat to one shot the King of the Pit Lords. Smoke or not, he outsmarted him by using the warmachine while being shot at and still managed to get him. And having the strengh to ram your axe into a giant demons skull without the help of any Magic is also impressive.
@Talla50k6 жыл бұрын
One thing I always question about Kil'rogg's transformation is where did the second skull on Kil'rogg's beard come from?
@bluewolvesstudios28224 жыл бұрын
For some reason, i feel bad for Grommash losing Garrosh. But on the same token, Garrosh did become somewhat of an asshole towards members of the Horde.
@pain13736 жыл бұрын
How can you see this cinematic in game i tried looking for it but no luck .
@hat10797 жыл бұрын
Thing is, Kilrogg knew everything Gul'dan was saying was bullshit. He saw his death in Hellfire Citadel, and had to have known that Gul'dan would go down shortly afterwards, so Kilrogg got the last laugh between him and Gul'dan, at least regarding Draenor.
@The1Floyd Жыл бұрын
Love how Gul'dan tosses Grom aside like he's nothing. Warlocks mad powerful.
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm7 ай бұрын
If we're honest it would be the same with Varian. Or how Thrall handled Garrosh once he used magic. We forget just how powerful magic can be. And that Warriors(That aren't the player) are just fit dudes with good weapon skill. But you can hardly cut away magic bindings that pin you instantly while you lack any magic. Players are spoiled by game mechanics. ;,)
@LinaaaYT7 жыл бұрын
1:03 Ultimate CC (Crowd Control)
@patrickperalta596 жыл бұрын
strange that this alternate Gul'dan some how found out that Garrosh was Grom's son. he shouldn't have known that.. and Garrosh wouldn't have told Gul'dan. so the question is how this version of Gul'dan found out Garrosh's secret.
@AquaLantern6 жыл бұрын
My best guess is that some of his Shadow Council buddies captured some Horde/Alliance soldiers and interrogated them. One let slip that Garrosh is Grommash's son from a different timeline.
@washo29966 жыл бұрын
Apparently demons tied to the twisting nether are one of a kind, meaning the demons in this reality are the same as in ours. It's unclear exactly which demons are tied to the nether and which aren't but it stands to reason they could've briefed him on events in our timeline so he could better persuade the orcs
@unbreakablelag6 жыл бұрын
How and why did he grow a second skull on his beard?
@sasca8547 жыл бұрын
Why is this so inconsistent with what happened to the Orcs when they drank the blood in the main timeline? In the MT, they just turned green-- some of their eyes started glowing red. That's it. Why do they all of the sudden mutate into hideous Chaos beasts in the alternate timeline?
@xxxxx66227 жыл бұрын
I know that this comment is old but i gotta explain. Kilrogg turned like this because, the blood hat he drank was extracted from mannoroths body after he died so it had a different effect
@ryangoodman53717 жыл бұрын
Really I thought it was archimondes blood
@sasca8546 жыл бұрын
It was _always_ Mannoroth's blood that the Orcs drank. Mannoroth says so in Warcraft 3.
@carlosc21046 жыл бұрын
It is speculated that wod demon blood came from a different demon. So no point going around it forever since they never mentioned mannoroths blood after he died at the start of wod. So yea 99% sure it came from a different demon.
@washo29966 жыл бұрын
It couldn't have been Manneroths blood, dude was a skeleton at this point
@horner3856 жыл бұрын
Just noticed that even his skulls ignite in fel
@user-jz5tf5se7e6 жыл бұрын
The demon blood give you an extra skull in your beard... Okeyyyy..
@DeepSpaceDubs7 жыл бұрын
OMG who keeps messaging me on battl-
@RQS3216 жыл бұрын
Why is Grommesh Hellscream Himself not in the comments shouting "Kilrog!"?...
@xZombiexNation7 жыл бұрын
Eternal damnation for a useless spell. Worth it
@patroclus81633 жыл бұрын
Man I wish I could fit an axe into my pockets as well
@Astraldragon17 жыл бұрын
so is there a story in a book or in game that explains how Gul'dan knew Garrosh was Grom's son. in this other time line. unless I'm wrong I don't think Gul'dan and Garrosh ever met in the normal time line.
@PhilipXander7 жыл бұрын
Astraldragon1 At the beginning in the trailer of Warlords, Gul'Dan and Garrosh meet each other.
@charis8296 жыл бұрын
シャーマンの新ヒーローカードのやつ!
@wertyupanoptikus97876 жыл бұрын
Why did orcs change of color without any reasonable explanation? I mean it was all ok with the brown to green, but then in WC3 the greens that drink mannoroth blood again get themselves red skinned and now they not become green at first but they get gray-skinned and green fel horns in the body? I really don't understand if Blizzard lore makers are stupid or they just don't care a shit about they own creation.
@derenter33036 жыл бұрын
Or you could stop sounding like an ignorant mong and google it.
@wertyupanoptikus97876 жыл бұрын
Do you think I will ask it here if I weren't already googled it? Really? Is it painful to you use your only 2 synaptic cells? Or are you just trying to be some kind of stupid fanatic or some pathetic kind of troll bot that do its therapy online? and Mong? Really? 21st-century bobo, mental disease are not insults anymore unless you are some kind of anachronic nazi.
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm6 жыл бұрын
Wertyu Maister I think we got the awnser in bc. Illidan made his deformed fel orcs with another pit lords blood. Since Mannaroth is dead at this point during the cinematic it is likely this is again another Pit lord. Since Mannaroth was the King of Pitlords his was most likely purer or something.
@washo29966 жыл бұрын
Different demon's blood has different potency and effects, it's the only logical explanation for it
@TheWTFsauce6 жыл бұрын
Different fel blood, as for red I think it was more for because of them being more under the legions influence
@richardshiflett51816 жыл бұрын
Thrall fought without honor.
@ollsmz9887 Жыл бұрын
1:05
@Abelhawk6 жыл бұрын
Does Chris Metzen voice every character nowadays?
@dillan73144 жыл бұрын
Metzen didn’t voice anyone in this scene lol - Gul’dan is Troy Baker and Grommash is Kevin Michael Richardson
@markurbanowicz66199 ай бұрын
I wonder how that drink would taste like?
@LeBrow4202 жыл бұрын
So Guldan could just one shot Grommash like that?
@djpaulieb7 жыл бұрын
I used to raid with the publisher of this video lol
@lancegamingph70853 жыл бұрын
Gromash Hellscream is look a like durotan
@marcusblacknell-andrews1783 Жыл бұрын
Gul'Dan: 1, Hellscream: 0 Gul'Dan wins
@douglasvargas15374 жыл бұрын
ahay alguien que able español f
@TheAuthor96 жыл бұрын
wheres his cut scene from?
@Ginjikaos6 жыл бұрын
It's when patch 6.1 came out, it's the continuation of Khadgar's Legendary quest line.
@blackhoofs6 жыл бұрын
What the hell I've never seen this cutscene was it ally only?
@fushisaky6 жыл бұрын
blackhoofs legendary quests
@blackhoofs6 жыл бұрын
strange I did those In wod
@aliezahjuarez57236 жыл бұрын
there's a bunch of silly comments about this video, but kinda true about the legion hellfire 6.2.😂
@aliezahjuarez57236 жыл бұрын
6.2 I mean😂
@aliezahjuarez57236 жыл бұрын
+Aliezah Juarez 6.1
@Soulcalibar417 жыл бұрын
All these Orcs talk about it honor. And what exactly has that honor brought them?
@Tazmai7 жыл бұрын
More honor!
@AlexZebol7 жыл бұрын
Tazmai Honor Overwhelming
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm7 жыл бұрын
Well out Grommash left a Legacy behind that relied on true honor. This is why most green orcs ,especialy the older ones that were part of the wars are like Nazgrim. Nothing but loyal, honorful and never giving in to their rage to blind themselves. Especialy Veterans like Saurfang are haunted by the Events similiar to Veterans irl. It's Young Orcs like Garrosh and his Kor'kron that never been part of this time, and thus never shared the expirience others like Thrall , Grom and saurfang went through.
@NameName2.06 жыл бұрын
Soul Akai the bitches. Honor always brings orcs some fine bitches.
@johannessimola16156 жыл бұрын
Trafalgar Water D. Law Well Thrall never experienced the horrors what Saurfang and others did during the rise of the horde till the battle at blackrocks mountains. Actually Thrall is younger than Garrosh and Thralls honor is most questionable because part of honor is take revenge on a dishonorable actions and Thrall nearly always forgave his enemies dishonoring himself.
@Pokemania20027 жыл бұрын
Guldan sucks at infomercials
@adeckh5 жыл бұрын
Wasnt Grommash the first to drink the demon blood?
@avitaed7 жыл бұрын
C NIO
@thrakerzad58746 жыл бұрын
Why did his skin turn grey instead of green? Also can any race drink demon blood and survive it? Could u have a fel human or troll?
@ravegt10646 жыл бұрын
Thrakerzad Mulrocs survived it
@washo29966 жыл бұрын
Fel trolls would be badass
@bendix68904 жыл бұрын
I didnt understand what this szene should show us
@CamSiv9966 жыл бұрын
Their one thing I don't get: Why didn't Grommash accept the blood?
@joshuamacal36416 жыл бұрын
Cameron Sivret Garrosh told him not to. That it would enslave his people. Did you watch the WoD cinematic?
@CamSiv9966 жыл бұрын
Joshua Macal I did, but Kilrog didn't listen to Grommash or Garrosh.
@washo29966 жыл бұрын
Kilrogg saw his own death, presumably drinking the blood would lead him to that death. Which is what he wants, since bleeding hollow chieftains are supposed to embrace their deaths
@sasca8547 жыл бұрын
Grom looks more like a mutated freak here than he did in WC3. Blizzard artists need to reign it in a bit.
@seanburke48677 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like they've gone with this look and retconned his appearance in Rise of the Horde. He looks like a steroid monster now...
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm7 жыл бұрын
Grom was always a more slim, heroic straight back warhero kind of figure, not a broad brute like his son. It's really a shame how generic they tried to make every Warchief, save for a few eements of their culture in their texture. They even managed to give the Troll council in MoP diffrent Bodytypes, so why not sticking to their main universe style.
@seanburke48677 жыл бұрын
That's understandable, he had a unique look to him so you could pick him out in a crowd (slim but intimidating). Chronicle vol. 2 completely redesigned him to be more aligned with his WOD and WoW movie counterpart too. This is officially how he looks.
@Scarletraven877 жыл бұрын
Would've been funny to see Kil'rogg stab him.
@jthorpr97307 жыл бұрын
Grommash can beat Gul'Dan... in hand to hand combat when Gul'Dan plays fair.
@irllcd137 жыл бұрын
That's like saying Mike Tyson could beat up Stephen Hawking as long as they don't have to take a physics test.
@garytaylor38807 жыл бұрын
Ziggy Wynder yeah cause Gul'dan will totally play fair lol
@turpaan23736 жыл бұрын
GUL'DAN CHEATS!
@thrakerzad58746 жыл бұрын
Ziggy Wynder a warlock not using magic is like a warrior not using hand to hand combat
@fang19687 жыл бұрын
I thought grom died when he was fighting mannoroth with thrall.. ????
@burakverid6467 жыл бұрын
He died. This is the alternate universe.
@kiraihasz27407 жыл бұрын
Please someone explain how they all went to an alternate timeline?
@kaiserbeelzebub4th6 жыл бұрын
he was revived by a powerful paladin in warcraft 3 together with mannoroth and they became friends like teletubbies.... idk wtf im talking about....
@LordHypnos46 жыл бұрын
They made Grom into such a bitch, and after trying to genocide our people and rule our planet we just let him go because Gul'Dan was a dick too. WoD had such hope but just didn't go anywhere
@Ozolz4 күн бұрын
Well done, you managed to turn the fel into looking like green slime. Animators FAIL.
@Dizturb3dwun4 күн бұрын
I'll let blizzard know you think their 8 year old cinematic looks bad lol