Growing Batteries - Wood Battery Explained

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How We Will Be Growing Batteries - Wood Battery Explained. The first 100 people to use code UNDECIDED at the link below will get 20% off of Incogni: incogni.com/undecided. With the ever-growing demand for electrifying everything, we need more sustainable and renewable batteries. Lithium ion batteries are cost-effective but rely on lithium, graphite, and other materials, whose sourcing has significant environmental and social impacts. One potential solution is being developed where wood is used to replace these materials with a bio-based, renewable alternative. So, would wood work or is it just… deadwood…?
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:09 - Li-ion challenges
03:42 - Lignin for batteries
05:49 - How it's done
06:37 - Lignode
08:15 - Ligna Energy
09:26 - Printing a battery
10:11 - Pros/Cons

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@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
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@LiftPizzas
@LiftPizzas Жыл бұрын
They float on water and we can build a bridge out of them.
@digiryde
@digiryde Жыл бұрын
I think batteries are headed in many directions. I do not perceive any technology that could provide all requirements for all battery situations, power, weight, price, recharge rate, etc. Each new technology opens up more viable uses for batteries. I think we still need more options. Maybe some day, a Shipstone Battery will be invented (see Robert Heinlein, "Friday"). Until then, we will have to have many variations in batteries with different sets of engineering trade-offs. I am fairly certain that we are only scratching the surface of what is possible with power storage at the moment. Chemical power storage is incredibly limited when you compare that to the power stored in sub-atomic particles per unit area. The questions are how do you get it out and how do you recharge it. We are still in our societal infancy in understanding the quantum world, but that world is what powers the universe.
@jjamespacbell
@jjamespacbell Жыл бұрын
That was quite a hit job on the lithium manufacturing process how about balancing that compared to the fossil fuel industry, including images from the Gulf war, sea birds covered in oil when ships sink or BP oil rigs leak, the methane leaks from abandoned gas wells.
@ralphnolletti9988
@ralphnolletti9988 Жыл бұрын
As a professional Arborist/ Nurseryman I find this exciting as I see the literal mountain of wood waste every day.
@soybean7312
@soybean7312 Жыл бұрын
This technology is great, but do we really need battery storage in our future? I don't think so. I am looking at a tiny piece of solar lens a size of a piece of a rice sitting next to the camera lens on the back of a cellphone that is good enough to collecting all the energy it needs to powering up a cell phone. A bigger piece of solar lens for the laptop computer, tablet, electric vehicle, and all the lighting it needed for the heating of a family home, warehouse. Where there is light, either it is from a piece of burning wood or from the sun. Solar panel is the way to go in our future. Our scientists need to focusing more on the solar panel development.
@jopo7996
@jopo7996 Жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn't end up being pulp fiction.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Slow clap ... well done. 👏
@Aaron_b_c
@Aaron_b_c Жыл бұрын
Ayyyoooh
@minkuanlau1
@minkuanlau1 Жыл бұрын
Pulp friction is a 🎥🍿
@El_Stipe
@El_Stipe Жыл бұрын
Let’s knock on wood that this progresses
@markus_selloi
@markus_selloi Жыл бұрын
Fucking genius
@MerrickKing
@MerrickKing Жыл бұрын
This is rapidly becoming the "new battery technology" channel and I am 100% okay with that :') Seriously interesting stuff
@Professor-Scientist
@Professor-Scientist Жыл бұрын
As a professor in battery technology I can confirm all information is correct and that you Sir, should have a good day.
@daviddrake5991
@daviddrake5991 Жыл бұрын
He might be trying to charge up his ratings. Or trying to give us all a jolt. I'll see myself out.
@christo930
@christo930 Жыл бұрын
NO! It's becoming repetitive! There are literally a MILLION other things which affect us in our daily lives. Imagine hearing about a new laundry detergent that has measurably less impact on the wearing out of your clothes. Or a new type of eye glass material. Improvements in the UV protection of stuff we have to put in the sun or in our cars. Literally millions.
@johndoh5182
@johndoh5182 Жыл бұрын
Battery technology is THE technology right now that will affect our world the most. Scientists and companies and govts and colleges all know this so the amount of battery research going on around the world is very large, probably so much so that most people don't release how much time, effort and money is going into research because every technology that works well as a solution is billions of dollars when it scales.
@JoachimVampire
@JoachimVampire Жыл бұрын
@@christo930 i guess you should watch the videos because either you didn't (understandably) or didn't pay enough attention. battery technology is life changing for the entire world. laundry is meaningless but batteries aren't, specially nowadays that fusion is proven to be viable. imagine being able to feed the entire world electricity but instead of "rationing it" in a buffer you trash it because you don't have the way to store it... imagine the world where batteries don't blow up because the phones go a touch too hot... imagine the world where batteries don't contamine and are cheap AF because they are made out of mundane materials. i understand that's a bit too much for some people and i do agree that he could do a shorter video containing various kinds of batteries where he explains the tech behind and the possible uses. laundry detergent is pointless because clothes are affordable. UV protection is.. pointless. if you talk about objects that get damaged by UV.. that would come too damn expensive (and pointless again) imagine a plastic that even the most powerful waves from the sun can't break down ever... talking about pollution... and if you talk about yourself (humans in general) you don't really need UV protection. your body can handle that with extreme easy. except when the ozone layer went to shit because we used tech that polluted like mad, but thankfully that issue is already taken care..
@swolebro
@swolebro Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty certain trees are already batteries. Solar energy comes in, then it gets stored as chemical energy for later. They even have sustainably-sourced solar panels built in!
@one_field
@one_field Жыл бұрын
Exactly! And highly efficient woodstoves are great at extracting that energy.
@itoothitooth4943
@itoothitooth4943 Жыл бұрын
So long as “man” stops cutting them down.
@NathanHedglin
@NathanHedglin Жыл бұрын
@@itoothitooth4943 we replant them in developed countries.
@one_field
@one_field Жыл бұрын
@@itoothitooth4943 Coppicing is the best answer; cut deciduous trees on a regular schedule during dormant seasons, and they grow back straight, faster and with denser wood while keeping the root system alive and healthy. It's been in use for 6,000 years that we can document but probably longer. Trees that are carefully coppiced become practically immortal because they never reach the imbalance stage of senescence where trunk girth exceeds sapwood's capacity to efficiently cover it. In other words, the trees stay juvenile forever. The soil remains undisturbed, with healthy root systems and microbial colonies in place. The ecosystem experiences maximum biodiversity (with "patch" and edge habitats rotating cyclically), supporting species that have evolved alongside this practice, like the nightingale songbird. Sustainable forestry is the most regenerative fuel source and carbon capture technology yet explored. It's already practiced in many countries, as it has been since the Neolithic period. We just need to regulate the industry so that all logging returns to coppicing.
@itoothitooth4943
@itoothitooth4943 Жыл бұрын
@@one_field agree 100% Wish Brazil would do this!!
@stephentroake7155
@stephentroake7155 Жыл бұрын
Nice one. Stora has existed as a company since the 13th century, due, it seems, to its flexible approach. It started out as a copper mine, but later switched to paper making. It's great to see that they're still innovating.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Talk about an evolving company ... it's impressive.
@MattBellzminion
@MattBellzminion Жыл бұрын
@@UndecidedMF It just keeps branching out...
@platinumsky845
@platinumsky845 Жыл бұрын
@@MattBellzminion nice
@aperinich
@aperinich Жыл бұрын
where can I read about this company's long history ?
@zibbitybibbitybop
@zibbitybibbitybop Жыл бұрын
Now THIS is the type of design thinking that I think we need more of, in which we look for ways to use the waste products of existing processes to solve some other problem. Hoping this works at scale, it'd be way more resource-efficient than mining new crap all the time.
@melchormodales5828
@melchormodales5828 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, good encouragement towards industrial efficiency!
@nogasgofast7665
@nogasgofast7665 Жыл бұрын
It seems better, but for one thing. If this solution uses 7 times more material or battery, then it also has to be 1/7th the cost. Half the price of the alternative won't work without something else to even out the playing field. But it seems a little too early to know the real cost based on this video.
@Thinginator
@Thinginator Жыл бұрын
You might find the Trabant interesting, it was an east-German car built during extreme metal rationing, so to build bodywork without metal they created a material called Duroplast which was made from wasted cotton and surplus chemicals for resin, so the bodywork on the car was made almost entirely out of recycled materials. Duroplast was lightweight and strong, and didn't rust or rot, though it also doesn't biodegrade at all so all the bodies of those cars are still around even if the chassis and whatnot are long gone. Still an interesting recycled material though!
@johngarth1
@johngarth1 Жыл бұрын
I've just stumbled onto your channel. I really like the way you take a neutral position giving pros and cons for each topic you bring. I will be following and sharing.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Glad you found the channel!
@commonsense.1014
@commonsense.1014 Жыл бұрын
I also recommend Diy with will prowse
@John.0z
@John.0z Жыл бұрын
There are several strands to the anti-renewable energy push - and the nature of the minerals used is most certainly a prominent subject in that push. I agree that there is no single technology to meet all the battery needs we have, and if a technology like this can have good enough storage density, and acceptable cost of manufacture, while also being somewhat benign to the environment, then that cannot help but be part of the overall solution.
@melchormodales5828
@melchormodales5828 Жыл бұрын
Good to have more options on renewable sources of energy.
@diablo.the.cheater
@diablo.the.cheater Жыл бұрын
@Sebastian Hahn the problem tho is that windmill and solar beat in price the syntetical fuel combustible and nuclear by a factor of 10
@Jermain-cz4bh
@Jermain-cz4bh Жыл бұрын
i can imagine angry oil companies are also a big part of the anti renewable energy push
@John.0z
@John.0z Жыл бұрын
@@Jermain-cz4bh But of course Jermain.
@ulforcemegamon3094
@ulforcemegamon3094 Жыл бұрын
@Sebastian Hahn to solidify your argument even more , we should take in count that Solar panels and Wind Turbines are extremely subsidized in most countries , something that studies regarding the price of Solar and Wind vs other technologies never take into account , i remember reading an article talking about that 3/4 of the price of the energy that Solar produces is subsized by the goverment , meaning that without goverment subsidy Solar would be ALOT more expensive , now imagine how the case it Will be with Wind Turbines
@aaronhill5908
@aaronhill5908 Жыл бұрын
They appear to be barking up the right tree with this idea. Let’s see if it sticks. Hopefully they can branch out to a variety of use cases since it’s sounds like it won’t end up in our trunk anytime soon. I’ll log off for now.
@Hexcede
@Hexcede Жыл бұрын
This was a tree't.
@Cliffdog01
@Cliffdog01 Жыл бұрын
I wonder, is there a future where these paper-thin style batteries (like how the Lab battery was printed to paper) could go into Solar Panel manufacturing so that every individual solar cell has batteries underneath it? Instead of buying the Panels and batteries seperate, you'll have combo panels that release the power all day and night.
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 Жыл бұрын
It's a cool idea, but there's a issue with the efficiency. Tldr is the more panels you have the less batteries you need for a given storage unit. Tony seba is a good Google search
@mfb424
@mfb424 Жыл бұрын
Around 2014 this kind of innovation was applied for a patent. Single layer bi-polar separator coated LFP cell with polymer electrolyte (which standa high temperature) laminated in the PV panel frame in a way where silicon cells are 7 in series to provide 3,5V charging voltage for the li-ion cell. Li-ion cells (4 or 8) were the connected to series with BMS and DC chopper switch to do SOC matching. I hope this was not too messy explanation. 😅
@janami-dharmam
@janami-dharmam Жыл бұрын
@@mrspeigle1 batteries are like capacitors; they store charge but in the form of chemical reaction. It is certainly possible to have a supercap of the size of the solar panel that can supply reasonable power day and night.
@victorhopper6774
@victorhopper6774 Жыл бұрын
a good panl lasts over 25 years so nope
@wrenmoliner9353
@wrenmoliner9353 Жыл бұрын
“Battery capacity doesn’t just grow on trees!” “Hold my beer”
@abyssstrider2547
@abyssstrider2547 Жыл бұрын
Hold my wood.
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 Жыл бұрын
Your channel beats the stuffing out of the competition "covering" alternative energy. Thank you and keep up the good work.
@bobnelsonfr
@bobnelsonfr Жыл бұрын
"It seems like there's a new technology every week ." Yes, and some of them will click. Thanks, Matt, for keeping us up to date.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
👍
@andoletube
@andoletube Жыл бұрын
Feels like none of them will because they always get dropped for the next, more promising hope on the horizon. A bit like the cure for insulin dependent diabetes. Always 5-10 years away.
@bobnelsonfr
@bobnelsonfr Жыл бұрын
@@andoletube Yes, that's frustrating. OTOH, I watch BOTH sides of the Atlantic, so I'm seeing more kinda sorta moderately priced EVs. ON SALE to real customers. America is perpetually in a "bigger is better" rut. Compromise is a dirty word. The second half of the 19th century must have felt like this, with each new technology destroying the previous.
@tonydeveyra4611
@tonydeveyra4611 Жыл бұрын
Pyrolysis is the magic that makes a thousand different materials. There was a researcher looking at making these out of hemp too. The woody chips of the hemp plant have a lot of micro pores so after its pyrolyzed you have a lot of places for electrons to go
@wescarmichael6587
@wescarmichael6587 Жыл бұрын
I hope they find a faster growing medium than trees. I’m no scientist by any stretch of the imagination. I wonder if bamboo would work. It’s extremely fast growing and abundant.
@laughinggas5281
@laughinggas5281 Жыл бұрын
@@wescarmichael6587 hemp and bamboo both have lignin. However, the lignin they are talking about exists as a waste product already.
@wescarmichael6587
@wescarmichael6587 Жыл бұрын
@@laughinggas5281 thanks 🙏
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 Жыл бұрын
Admittedly there extraction methods of lithium without that water impact (being scaled in Germany) Also I think a large share of lithium deployed in Germany is on track to be recycled indefinitely
@neutronpcxt372
@neutronpcxt372 Жыл бұрын
This video is actually reminding me of the study that I found a few weeks ago about how various lignin based components in a lithium-ion cell could improve their performance in all ways(capacity, power density and cycle life) over traditional cell components, such as the separator and electrolyte. You could also get a lignin based binder, which has massively improved cycle life, but at a large energy density cost.
@blue_beephang-glider5417
@blue_beephang-glider5417 Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and Happy new year to you and your family Matt. Many thanks for all the informative videos you have entertained us with, Blue
@Babarudra
@Babarudra Жыл бұрын
That paper based battery sounds like a good opportunity for life rafts on ships. As soon as it hits the water the battery gets power and you could get light and send EPIRB signal/phone.
@Trojansteel-hh5xd
@Trojansteel-hh5xd Жыл бұрын
They already have them for lights on life jackets.
@Treksh
@Treksh Жыл бұрын
With how good bio tools are becoming I wouldn't be surprised to see living batteries within my lifetime.
@tomizatko3138
@tomizatko3138 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are called extremely efficient genetically engineered fat cells that store most of our energy for billions of years. And are high density , cost effective, space efficient, ling lasting. 😉😂
@Treksh
@Treksh Жыл бұрын
@@tomizatko3138 lol, if only they could be mass-produced and had a good energy efficiency for storing electric charge.
@dapsychokilla
@dapsychokilla Жыл бұрын
sounds like the matrix
@BitterTast3
@BitterTast3 Жыл бұрын
What are bio tools? What's an example?
@andoletube
@andoletube Жыл бұрын
@@tomizatko3138 I resemble that remark!
@truckerslater1753
@truckerslater1753 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Matt! Your videos Inspire, Inform, and give us hope for our world. A very merry Christmas to you and your family !
@frankbauerful
@frankbauerful Жыл бұрын
This printable battery sounds like the perfect solution for those electronic greeting cards that start singing when you open them.
@AmiGanguli
@AmiGanguli Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff. I think it makes a lot of sense that these technologies will coexist, serving different use-cases. What makes sense depends on the financial details. Provided they're cheap enough to produce and recycle, grid storage can tolerate really low performance batteries. It all comes down to cost and sustainability.
@mfb424
@mfb424 Жыл бұрын
For grid storage the most important properties are: 1. Reliability 2. Efficiency 3. Cost to make and operate 4. Raw material abundancy 5. High scale manufacturability
@PxsDD
@PxsDD Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect video to top off the year. I really appreciate the transparency about the cost of extractive energy solutions. Lignen is now my number one favorite renewable! Thank you so much!
@winfriedtheis5767
@winfriedtheis5767 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another super interesting and informative video! And a huge thanks for all the effort you clearly put into your texts! Coming up all these word plays is yet another of your special talents!
@aeonspast
@aeonspast Жыл бұрын
All of these different battery technologies is incredibly interesting and leaves me optimistic that one if not more will stick. And despite this not being viable for electric vehicles, if any of this "works on a large scale like backup power storage for the grid" technologies bears fruit, it will lessen the overall need for Lithium which is a big win. I just hope we keep on this path and some if not all of these alternatives make their way to market.
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s important that we explore as many sustainable technologies as possible. I don’t think there will ever be a perfect battery for all applications - and seeing as how NiCAD and NiMH have continued to exist along lithium batteries, I think that’s evidence of such. Those biodegradable ones would particularly be great for disposable things like vapes, which people tend to throw on the ground when they run out…
@danielmadar9938
@danielmadar9938 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I wrote about these technologies a few years ago, it's good to see that they are still around.
@Santibag
@Santibag Жыл бұрын
Dude, you're amazing in making videos with this channel concept. Because, in my opinion, the videos on this channel are both quite exciting and unsatisfying at the same time. You tell things that MAY cause significant improvements, but they are all "Undecided". This looks like a risk to me for the channel owner, since people may get annoyed. But you're still doing it. And I really respect you on that.
@SequoiaElisabeth
@SequoiaElisabeth Жыл бұрын
Matt, this is a great channel. Your reporting on cutting edge technology keeps me informed and inspired.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks.
@melchormodales5828
@melchormodales5828 Жыл бұрын
@@UndecidedMF I enjoy it too! Thanks a lot Matt.
@TheBakedalaskajoe
@TheBakedalaskajoe Жыл бұрын
Wooden shoes... Wooden skyscrapers and now wooden batteries. That is awesome. I hope it works.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
It'll be interesting to see how this evolves.
@rojavabashur6455
@rojavabashur6455 Жыл бұрын
@@UndecidedMF The city where Northvolt is building its gigafactory Skellefteå also have a wooden skyscraper Sara Kulturhus.
@alanwhite4427
@alanwhite4427 Жыл бұрын
Happy new year 🎈. I loved all your videos over the years, keep up the good work. All the best from Ireland 🇮🇪.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Thank you and happy new year to you too!
@gordonbruce373
@gordonbruce373 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff Matt! Very interesting and encouraging work being undertaken. Thanks for sharing and explaining it to those of us hopeful but uninformed masses!!)))))) Happy New Year when it comes.
@jvin248
@jvin248 Жыл бұрын
Rather than wood -- faster growing with lower resource requirements in a chase for Lignin include bamboo, miscanthus giganteus (bread for more growth control or the invasive fast growing Chinese Silvergrass used as suburban ornamental), sorghum, and corn stalks.
@TheIgle
@TheIgle Жыл бұрын
But by providing an alternative to burning the lignin that is created as a by-product from paper you can encourage more green friendly energy sources. These by-products will continue to exist. There is no reason to avoid using them in a way that is better than just burning them
@davejack8973
@davejack8973 Жыл бұрын
another amazing and FULL OF INFORMATION VIDEO . as always thanks to Matt and the rest of the team !
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for watching/commenting, Dave.
@izerochan
@izerochan Жыл бұрын
Every time you do a video on a new battery technology I get especially excited. I don't think any single one of them will be the solution we need, but rather all the new battery techs together will eventually help us solve our energy storage issues in a sustainable way.
@clintsheppard9699
@clintsheppard9699 Жыл бұрын
Super cool topic, VERY impressive delivery/presentation, and spot-on puns. Glad I found your channel!!
@Elitemusicman1
@Elitemusicman1 Жыл бұрын
Flower Power!
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
🌸⚡
@jannepeltonen2036
@jannepeltonen2036 Жыл бұрын
This all sounds very exciting, but I have an issue with "sustainably grown Nordic forests" after just reading an editorial in the largest newspaper here in Finland taking the stand that the problem we have about our forests having turned from net carbon sinks into net carbon sources due to accelerating deforestation and unsustainable forestry practices - taking the stand that this must be dealt with, and quickly.
@mirjam3553
@mirjam3553 Жыл бұрын
Hear hear! A field of (same age, same species of) trees does not a forest make. (We have this problem big time just south of you.) I saw a comment upwards of here that talked about getting the lignin from bamboo, sorghum, corn instead.
@Adrian-qk2fn
@Adrian-qk2fn Жыл бұрын
@@mirjam3553 As I understand it, one of the main sources for Lignum is that it is a waste product produced by the Paper Making Industry. As this is already being burned, thus increasing CO2 emissions then, by using the Lignum to make anodes you are killing two birds with one stone: Using a waste product that would otherwise be disposed of and reducing CO2 emissions at the same time. As for sustainable forestry prectices I agree with you. The UK carried out a massive planting effort for Evergreen timbers to fulfill a perceived need after World War 2, cutting down a lot of our native tree species at the same time. Now, that need has disappeared but we are left with the ecological effects of it which will be with us for centuries. We have to be very careful what we do to avoid disturbing the natural ecological balance of a region- and we should remember that different regions have different balances.
@mirjam3553
@mirjam3553 Жыл бұрын
@@Adrian-qk2fn The fact that it's made from paper mill waste products is good, but... Right here right now, the demand for the lowest grades of lumber (for paper products and for pellets) far surpasses the regrowth rate of our local forests and has resulted in legally grey felling practices at best. (Because pellets used in home furnaces are technically a renewable resource etc., the demand is huge, the profits are big and so on.) If these industries get any _more_ help, for example additional sellable products (now this paper mill can sell something it used to have to dispose of), prices and profits will increase even further, incentivizing more clear-cutting etc. Basically, we're here rapidly slipping into the bit of the equation that you were at after WW2 and I think it's easier to prevent than deal with the consequences down the line. (But then again, those won't hit in the next election cycle so... *shrug*)
@MrSpritzmeister
@MrSpritzmeister Жыл бұрын
Previously I’ve read from that same newpaper that the biomass and the area of forest cover is growing in Finland, thanks to forest management practices and longer growing season.
@MrHunter830
@MrHunter830 Жыл бұрын
Your content is awesome. Thank you for the updates. Happy holidays 🎉.
@Xero1of1
@Xero1of1 Жыл бұрын
3:42 When working for Milwaukee Tool in the battery R&D department, we purposely overloaded tools with batteries installed and batteries by themselves. We had to put them into well ventilated, concrete- and bulletproof glass-encased rooms, with a little tiny tube to run all of our testing wires through. When one of those things went off, you felt the heat THROUGH the bulletproof glass... it's kind of insane. Also... don't let your Li-Ion batteries recharge and sit on the charger for long periods of time in sub-zero (°C) temperatures. The cold reduces the energy storage, but the charger may recognize this as the battery being undercharged, so it tries to put in more charge which could overload the battery causing a thermal runaway event. Keep your batteries warm as best as you can and try not to force too much power out of them when they're cold until they've warmed up a bit. Just some helpful tips... :D
@adr2t
@adr2t Жыл бұрын
Well I mean if they can lower from 2$ to 1$ that cuts half of half the battery cost right there. The other half could be cut down using salt or suf that also reduces the cost by 30% - meaning we could see batters cost as much as 70% less would be pretty big deal even if they don't hold as much charge per weight/volume. That would be REALLY good for grid storage to the point that instead of installing new power plants - we could just instead install new battery plants. With that said - I am a bit confuse - you you talk about how Lignin charges faster by being random - while graphitic is more layer design - yet some how it holds less? Wouldnt that mean we would want a mix of the two instead? One that allow for faster charging by mixing in like 1/x over the graphitic to increase storage by lowering the over all cost? Even at something of a cost savings of 20% would still lead to cheaper storage + faster charging that the grid needs would be a good balance between the two.
@TimbrrWolfe
@TimbrrWolfe Жыл бұрын
As someone who tries to exclusively use sustainable resources in Minecraft (including making charcoal out of tree blocks instead of digging for coal) I'm all for the idea of wood batteries. Obviously real life is different than Minecraft, and there's almost definitely not a cascading solution like one piece of charcoal being able to make 8 more, but the more fuel and materials we can make out of renewable sources the better.
@jimbenge9649
@jimbenge9649 Жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed this year's videos and have learnt a great deal. you have inspired me to research for myself and learn a great deal more. Sincerely, thank you and a very merry Christmas to you and yours (I hope it's ok to say that. It's the standard greeting here in Englandshire. Hahaha.). 🎄
@janisvaskevics93
@janisvaskevics93 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for laying out info in a comprehensible way! I recommend your channel to my friends that speak english and need more info about energy.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@ScottiStudios
@ScottiStudios Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I can imagine you choose you a topic based on 50% how interesting it is and the other 50% how many puns you can add to your script based on that topic 😆👍
@leebuckley7436
@leebuckley7436 Жыл бұрын
If they go into production, keep them away from Samsung. Woods flammable and they've already had issues with their phones power supply. 🔋🔥
@curiodyssey3867
@curiodyssey3867 Жыл бұрын
Wow that was ...what 10 years ago? Man I think at the very least they have proved beyond a doubt that is no longer an issue....
@pauloazuela8488
@pauloazuela8488 Жыл бұрын
Ah you know the issue was that they're not actually using Lithium-Ion. But a battery that is still Lithium but still uses another component on it , which is less resistant than standard lithium ions. I don't see the point of it since this new tech is cheaper so there's no need to compromise. People like you will only spread misinformation
@kurosakiichigo5067
@kurosakiichigo5067 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but their batteries still have a tendency to expand and push open the back of the phone. Mrwhosetheboss made a great video on the topic.
@leebuckley7436
@leebuckley7436 Жыл бұрын
@@curiodyssey3867 indeed they have. It was a tongue in cheek poke at their past history is all 😋
@brianwood5220
@brianwood5220 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing and have a great holiday season. 🎅
@haroldwestrich3312
@haroldwestrich3312 Жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on your videos; Just want to let you know it's because you are very thorough and cover all of the questions most people would want to ask. Bravo On ALL of your videos and Thank YOU For being YOU ! ! !
@bellofbelmont
@bellofbelmont Жыл бұрын
Thanks and Merry Christmas. 😊 Looks like a good addition to the growing range of options. .. Jim Bell (Australia)
@DanielSalley3D
@DanielSalley3D Жыл бұрын
Your content is some of the best stuff on KZfaq (seriously), but your jokes are the best stuff in the world..
@carmanconrad8684
@carmanconrad8684 Жыл бұрын
Great info Matt. Thanks for all the digging you do into new technologies. Keep up the good work.
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@tombh74
@tombh74 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video. Keep up the good work you do.
@charizard69420
@charizard69420 Жыл бұрын
this is really interesting... many paper mills have shut down since paper use has gone down. We could bring these plants back on line to 1) produce more cellulose products in order to replace plastics and 2) use the lignin byproduct for battery anode. Also the old mills, with their roll-style assembly lines, might be amenable to conversion into roll-style battery anode printing... another benefit is, since paper mills have historically been built at hydroelectric power sources, there would be extra-resilience of such "battery mills" grid outages since hydroelectric could serve as a backup
@SvenHeitland
@SvenHeitland Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Merry Christmas and a happy new year
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sven!
@shumann1605
@shumann1605 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Matt, very interesting stuff. Who would have thought, a battery anode from wood waste. I love tech. Keep it up Matt!
@michaelkelley6158
@michaelkelley6158 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate all of the various types of batteries you have highlighted. I would love you to share a video of your top 3 favorite alternative (non-lithium) batteries and why they are your top 3.
@kaf2303
@kaf2303 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, happy holidays to you
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
To you too!
@rchokelal
@rchokelal Жыл бұрын
Great Video Matt! Love your work and thoroughness of reporting.
@bjornfleuren
@bjornfleuren Жыл бұрын
Love your work, feels so pro. Very close to a tv production.
@ztornow
@ztornow Жыл бұрын
I’m from a paper mill town in Wisconsin. Stora used to be here and then left. Now the mill sits there unused. This may be an interesting spin on an old industry that would bring those jobs back
@JoePolaris
@JoePolaris Жыл бұрын
Happy holidays, looking forward to see you ideas for 2023!
@amrunwerhekau9001
@amrunwerhekau9001 Жыл бұрын
Apart from the great content, I really like the abstract desktop wallpaper :) are those accessible somewhere? Thanks for the great videos and happy holidays!
@wlhgmk
@wlhgmk Жыл бұрын
Also, if you char lignite(or any other organic material) the gasses that come off are a combination of cooking gas, gasoline, diesel, airline fuel and right on up to road tar. They can be separated by a standard fractionation column such as is used in petroleum refineries
@sig861
@sig861 Жыл бұрын
I love this type of thinking. I am sure there must be other industries out there that can take a look at what there out going wast is and make use of it
@WomanSlayer69420
@WomanSlayer69420 Жыл бұрын
Everyone gangsta until “Quicken, Aggravate, Spread” shows up when you power something on.
@kdm1234gmail
@kdm1234gmail Жыл бұрын
wow thats amazing. I have never heard anything about anything like this. Its good to see their moving in a greener direction. I also love the idea of using "garbage" to make a fancy product. I love doing similar here. human impact in the area had degraded the natural processes that were responsible for helping break down course woody debris and in turn caused more build up and fire hazards. Well reducing soil quality. So when we moved into great grandmothers house after her passing. I used natural processes to work to build soil and encourage natural processes. As well as removing excess debris from the woods and helping it break down into its base materials and returning it. As to help nature build itself back up. The difference is phenomenal as I do little bits of input. The diversity of plants increases each year and worms are returning and growing in large numbers. Which has brought back birds and other wild animals. Who's natural actions work in junction with the forest and helped it grow so strong
@JoePolaris
@JoePolaris Жыл бұрын
Matt , great video!! I liked the devil’s advocate vs hype of the new shiny tech. Keep it up !
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
👍
@simonreeves2017
@simonreeves2017 Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, greetings from the U.K.! What a fascinating concept - it almost seems too good to be true. I will be watching this story with huge interest. Thanks for all your research on the technologies of tomorrow.
@stevedavies2712
@stevedavies2712 Жыл бұрын
I am looking at options in the UK
@stopscammingman
@stopscammingman Жыл бұрын
This looks to be an excellent combination of effectiveness and abundant.
@stopscammingman
@stopscammingman Жыл бұрын
Very well explained and presented.
@GLJosh
@GLJosh Жыл бұрын
Potentially diaper material based green energy source, most newly created bioreactors can produce a green waste product dependent in inputs. There are quite a few containers designed to retain this waste product and those with large amounts of those containers are in a great need to assist with disposal.
@2Fast4Mellow
@2Fast4Mellow Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Curious what would happen if you combine graphite and lignin together in certain ratio's. Composites are often used to improve existing materials. Usually because the current patent is about to expire...
@Jamaicanboi407
@Jamaicanboi407 Жыл бұрын
NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO we "i" need one more before the year is out lol lol happy holidays to you too matt..!
@UndecidedMF
@UndecidedMF Жыл бұрын
Ha! Appreciate that. 🎉
@Kenwaldek
@Kenwaldek Жыл бұрын
I was looking in graphene and found a company that makes it from feedstock, thats a more sustainable way than what i saw in your video. I’m great i found your channel it helps me to look at the entire cycle of a product and how often we think its green it really isn’t. Btw the company is gmg it makes battery’s but also other products. Also polyjoule battery is one to look into an battery made from polymers . Greetings from 🇧🇪
@TheVoidSinger
@TheVoidSinger Жыл бұрын
it's definitely interesting on the tech side, and pivoting off the current waste stream is certainly a smart move, I do wonder about the long term stability in market costs (byproducts that find use often increase in value) as well as the ultimate scalability once the immediate stock of by products reaches saturation, this puts a lot more pressure on wood as a resource, which *can* be done sustainably, but historically has not been.
@northwoodsliving101
@northwoodsliving101 Жыл бұрын
Good Job Matt, so fascinating, as always, very thoroughly presented, THANK YOU
@PinskiYT
@PinskiYT Жыл бұрын
If they could improve the wh/kg that would be great for using less materials for energy stored 40wh/kg is quite low
@billdillard885
@billdillard885 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting Dis-Batt Dat-Batt! Lithium is a huge environmental disaster in process…. The answer or answers are out there… love how you keep looking under rug for one that might be the right one!! Keep looking and sharing!!
@RasmusLodenius
@RasmusLodenius Жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about circular showers? Does it work and how much energy/water do you really save? :)
@artboymoy
@artboymoy Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Love this outside of the box thinking.
@lorenzovecciosegniore1212
@lorenzovecciosegniore1212 Жыл бұрын
Cool i did not know that I used to work at EMPA and recently had a tour there with my coworkers. I know they come up with some crazy stuff there.
@energyeve2152
@energyeve2152 Жыл бұрын
Cool tech. Thanks for sharing
@drbenben
@drbenben Жыл бұрын
great video! I think it definitely has some applications but whether or not it will hit the mainstream anytime soon is up for debate
@FerociousPancake888
@FerociousPancake888 Жыл бұрын
Well solid as wood might not be enough, I want a plan that’s solid as concrete! I’m excited to follow battery tech this decade. I think we’re going to see some really cool things.
@norvusordoseclorum
@norvusordoseclorum Жыл бұрын
You can tell he really has fun whilst writing these videos
@rondunlap4628
@rondunlap4628 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great new-aged Content the facts are the facts. Thank you Again
@machupikachu1085
@machupikachu1085 Жыл бұрын
Great video! That wood be cool!
@trysin4704
@trysin4704 Жыл бұрын
Matt definitely had fun with his puns in this one.
@CarlStreet
@CarlStreet Жыл бұрын
VERY impressed with sourcing lignin as a waste product of the paper industry. "Garbage is just resources we are too stupid to utilize yet" -- Buckminster Fuller echoes loudly here. Thanks for all your hard work and creative insight.
@luisfelix7989
@luisfelix7989 Жыл бұрын
Good information, as always good presentation
@tedhamilton2362
@tedhamilton2362 Жыл бұрын
This is encouraging... making renewables' storage using renewable resources (wood-based materials).
@km5lb11
@km5lb11 Жыл бұрын
comes to commercial grade use, it is good to see companies trying to find new uses for what had been a waste product. And I think looking for bio products instead of mining is a great idea.
@joshhall470
@joshhall470 Жыл бұрын
I would be curious to see different vessel elements and how their ion exchange differs ie xylem vs pholem vs ray cells etc
@danieljolley9319
@danieljolley9319 Жыл бұрын
I love technology and wood haha I'm excited thank you
@jestersi
@jestersi Жыл бұрын
That gave me hope :) thx.
@ironclay3939
@ironclay3939 Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt - good last post for the year - you're always thought provoking, have a nice one and see you in the new year. For places like NZ - sheep - trees - Hydro - make our own paper, it looks good. Got any ideas on stopping WWIII ?
@Gabrong
@Gabrong Жыл бұрын
Yeeyyy. Finally you covered them :D
@stephentroyer3831
@stephentroyer3831 Жыл бұрын
I really look forward to seeing how well wood based batteries stack up against the competition
@Steven.Stovall
@Steven.Stovall Жыл бұрын
Quick and to the point. My first thought was... "Wait... Wood is more of a resistor than a conductor.". I finished watching it and it seems impressive.
@theodoremiller1951
@theodoremiller1951 Жыл бұрын
Great content and I am now hopeful we can create more environmentally friendly batteries. I am still very concerned on how we will be able to charge them in the near to midterm.
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