Why Should I Flip-Turn When Swimming?

Why Should I Flip-Turn When Swimming? | Tumble Vs Touch Turn

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3 жыл бұрын

Do you flip turn when swimming? There's no law on turning in the pool, but it can save you a lot of time, especially in a pool-based triathlon! Mark is here with his top tips to get you to tumble turn faster on your next swim!
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@closmasmas9080 3 жыл бұрын

You can tell how committed someone has been to their summer training by their tan lines

@dannytwosocks 3 жыл бұрын

Never mind the turn style why is he wearing a white T-shirt while swimming?

@chriswilliamson3757 3 жыл бұрын

Lololol

@rooherm8529 3 жыл бұрын

I flip turn. It was a specific goal of mine and took a clinic about @5years ago. Flip turning allows one to more closely mimic the conditions of the swim in a triathlon. In an event you will NOT have the opportunity to take a deep breath which the open turn incorporates. Best to train in conditions that will best prepare for races, ie sighting. Thanks for your videos. I always strive to improve.

@atentat99 3 жыл бұрын

Where did the touch-turn dude go? I like him better😁

@janesmith8603 3 жыл бұрын

I like them both

@jaydesimone4297 3 жыл бұрын

With all the public pools still shut down here, I've been swimming in my parents' backyard pool. It's hard to do a flip turn in 3 feet of water against a curved wall.

@se9865 3 жыл бұрын

I've tried to do flip turns for 19 years, and I just can't do it. Once I got that upside down bit I become completely disorientated, and lose track of where my body is facing. Then, some how I end up in the lane next to me.

@MehmetSevil 3 жыл бұрын

You have it easy, I once tried to do a flip turn in the pool and found myself in my bedroom. =P

@luammerces2461 Жыл бұрын

@@MehmetSevil what do you mean, did you pass out?😳

@MehmetSevil Жыл бұрын

@@luammerces2461 Heheh. No, no, I was just jesting by the way of exaggeration. =D

@luammerces2461 Жыл бұрын

@@MehmetSevil lol 😆 got it hahaha

@parttroll1 3 жыл бұрын

I just need a quiet pool in order to practice my flip turns 👀.

@speedygonzales9993 3 жыл бұрын

Same here.

@willalfred5959 3 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Also nice to see some swimming content returning after the necessary gap!

@john12mclaughlin 3 жыл бұрын

A good open turn is way faster than a bad tumble turn. Though I'd bet if I were a faster swimmer I'd see more benefit from a flip turn 😅

@luammerces2461 Жыл бұрын

I'm bad at both lol, tying to master the flip turn tho

@lizziegutteridge8267 3 жыл бұрын

I originally discovered GTN when I was looking for instructions on how to do tumble turns. I never did get the hang of it and when I showed up to my first event with it's pool swim they weren't allowed anyway! I now do a kind of upside down tumble turn at the pool - roll onto my back on the approach to the wall, take a good look behind me to see who's doing what in a busy lane then flip onto my front and push off the wall. Having said that, I've not been in a pool since March and don't plan on returning anytime soon - I've found my own little bit of river to play in.

3 жыл бұрын

When you do an aquathlon event, they discourage you to do the flip turn (but some still do that provided that there is no one to bump to). But I do flip turns on regular swim days. Loving the video.

@janesmith8603 3 жыл бұрын

That was quite satisfying

@lawrenceprime7236 3 жыл бұрын

Hi GTN, love the videos!! Im currently training for my first ironman, one main issue im having is bloating/pain in my stomach after almost every swim session. ive tried slowing my pace, changing breathing from every three stokes to four and even two with no luck. Any tips would be great! Thanks

@12Wp909 3 жыл бұрын

Learning to do a flip turn is also a great way to improve your coordination in the water!

@joyridaz 2 жыл бұрын

We need a video on flip turn technique for indoor tri events when u have to also switch lanes at the same time. Is the flip turn recommended and if so how to do it and go at an angle under the divider into the next lane

@ladysoapmaker 3 жыл бұрын

I swim in a pool that has a very short shallow end and if I'm not careful I will hit my end on the bottom so I do open turn at that end and flip turns at the deep end. When I the time and space I will actually practice open water turns in the shallow end to practice them and increase my endurance when I can't swim outside.

@kimweidner7351 3 жыл бұрын

When asked, I always tell people “if something is worth doing, it’s worth doing correctly” or “completely “. I also explain that one isn’t a real swimmer unless they master the flip turn. Of course we know that is not true, but it can be a standard and a skill to try to strive for. In triathlon, one never knows fully what their experience in open water will be for that events swim. Maybe the water is choppy and/or has huge swells making it difficult to get the rhythmic anticipated air. Practicing flip turns in a controlled environment like a pool can actually be beneficial in allowing oxygen deprivation. Maybe devote a few 200’s to coming into the wall on no air, do your flip turn and then take two strokes off the wall before you get your first bite of air. Give yourself permission to be uncomfortable as you master the flip turn, devote a small set to them and then return to your open turns for your main set. Flip turns are just another skill that will enhance you as an athlete when mastered. As a triathlete, they set you apart in allowing others to try to figure out what your favorite and strongest discipline is because you are strong in all three. 😁

@Transition2Triathlon 3 жыл бұрын

I don't think flip turn is essential for Triathletes, but it sure does look cool. For that reason alone, it's worth doing

@rhydianmann267 3 жыл бұрын

Epic quarantine running tan :P

@markthrelfall3577 3 жыл бұрын

Is it weird that I’m actually quite proud of it 🤣

@36itaycohen 3 жыл бұрын

What kind of strength and conditioning do you practice?

@aaroiseverything 3 жыл бұрын

you know its 2020 when mark has to do the intro with mark

@sebastienbrochard9812 3 жыл бұрын

Just learnt the flip turn ... like it. But as you say, it's a serious breathing control exercise, and after 300-400m, i can see i lose some freshness of thoughts, and start gagging at the turns. 😋 I'm doing a home made 70.3 this week-end, with a pool swim ... i can foresee i'll flip turn some and will touch turn the other.

@pobrien864 16 күн бұрын

I breathe every stroke and typically swim a mile and then some shorter drills. I can do a flip turn but I usually get out of breath and then need to slow my pace before resuming my normal rhythm.

@LoyaFrostwind 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love to do a flip turn, and I could when I was younger. But I had a cold/sinus infection some time ago, and now I get nauseous whenever 8 flip upside down in the water. Touch turns are much easier and quicker for me.

@xrayfish2020 3 жыл бұрын

Breathe out when flipping over took me ages to get this little bit right

@peterparahuz7094 3 жыл бұрын

breathe out? i've been breathing out over the last two strokes. my lungs are nearly empty. my face is beginning to look like arnold's on the surface of mars. and it's not like i will be able to take a breath immediately after the flip.

@JianYZhong 3 жыл бұрын

I agree a flip turn takes less effort once you get the hang of it. Just try it out!

@seanmarquis3050 3 жыл бұрын

My goal is to become faster in open water. To that end, I would like to do whichever turn will better advance my open water swim (doesn’t much matter which is faster in the pool). The way I have figured it, touch swim better replicate the open water swim: the underwater-dolphin-kick exit isn’t part of open water freestyle, and touch turn allows me to keep the most consistent freestyle swim. Perhaps there are other, more important factors to consider. I would love to see more analysis that breaks down the factors; which kind of turn would best help me advance my open water swim.

@rooherm8529 3 жыл бұрын

I would say flip turn because in open water you do not have the extra opportunity to breath which open turns do. The issue is breathing and amount of oxygen. Also, to put it in terms of physics, if you are doing it correctly your momentum continues with the flip turn while with the open turn you briefly stop and then start. This does not mimic open water swimming

@mikeober9773 2 жыл бұрын

Flip turns take a lot more breath control, so I find touch turns are easier.

@follystone 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of pool-based Sprint & Standard Tris have a snake swim where flip-turns are banned (DQ)

@jobanski 3 жыл бұрын

Not only do I not flip turn, I also don’t kick off the wall, because I don’t want it giving me a faster time than I actually got.

@jeromeibanez2891 2 жыл бұрын

This makes no sense. The kick off the wall + breakout is part of swimming

@13klecan 10 ай бұрын

love flip turns, but due to car accident, i can’t do one, my one leg has no proprioception (feeling) i could bang, cut, trip on that leg and not feel it. I also cannot bring my legs up to my chest. I work hard on my open turns: I take my turn, line up my legs and once legs are lined push off which takes me way past the flags. I see so many swimmers who do flip turns, but are merely doing a summersault along the wall and end up having to do two strokes before even getting near the flags, so why do they bother?

@noonehere4332 Жыл бұрын

I find that flip turns help with avoiding elbow pain from pushing myself off the wall.

@F1tch1c 3 жыл бұрын

I just feel extremely nauseous going upside down in the pool. I stay under the water and do a sideways scrunch turn - it seems quicker than the open turn. I keep up in my lane.

@paawian 11 ай бұрын

I tried flip-turn but I just don't like it. I feel disoriented when doing the flip. I'm also not a very fast-paced swimmer so 1 or 2 seconds don't really matter to me. I simply don't fill comfortable doing those flips. Maybe I'll give it another chance in the future. Thanks for sharing this video.

@yxhankun 9 ай бұрын

but l am using a siphon n using breast strokes. How to do the flip turns the?

@fturla___156 3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't do a flip turn on shallow pool settings because the margin for hitting the bottom of the pool increases if you don't do the turn properly.

@lukeobrien7578 9 ай бұрын

44 year old swimmer here with bulged discs in lower back. I can’t do flip turns anymore. The twist that takes place right before your feet touch the wall equals a knife stab in my back.

@chloecoronadowinn1451 3 жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat as Mark, it baffles me when people don't do them, mainly because I can't remember a time when I didn't do flip turns (I was probably 7 when I learned how to do one), it's second nature at this point, but definitely interesting to hear the other side and I can't imagine what it would be like to learn how to do one as an adult.

@mikeober9773 2 жыл бұрын

Much harder. I finally got back into the pool last July and it took me over six months to get my flip turns into something resembling competence. My knees still aren't together and they never will be but I have a tight turn and come off the wall upside down. On the other hand, when I'm swimming distance and trying to maintain a one minute lap (25 yd pool) I need to use touch turns for the additional air.

@elliyeti73 3 жыл бұрын

I can do flip turns but it means spending more time underwater without a breath. Running out of breath is a problem for me so I've actually starting do touch turns to get an extra breath.

@jeromeibanez2891 2 жыл бұрын

Holding your breath will improve lung capacity. You actually notice it even just after a few sessions. Another way to improve it woukd be to do 4 butterfly kicks after your kick off the wall (hold your breath the entire time). When you break out of the surface, do two strokes (you can already start breathing out here) before breathing in. Goodluck and try not to panic so much. When I feel like Im going to lose my breath I always try to tell myself that I will regain the breath after two strokes. It really helps!

@ygalel 11 ай бұрын

It's just cooler 😎

@sbyrstall 3 жыл бұрын

The real reason is that Garmin doesn't pick up touch turns very well. 😉

@markankone9362 3 жыл бұрын

🥳

@justalurkr 3 жыл бұрын

So, a farmer's tan is actually a triathlete tan?

@jeffreywiddop762 5 ай бұрын

I am not a competitive swimmer. At 71 year old I get dizzy doing flip turns.

@dannystaten5701 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure which would get more of Marks judgemental attitude, me doing open turns, or me doing my awkward version of a flip turn 😀. I usually do to flip turns but they feel so awkward and clumsy. I can't seem to get any of the rotation without using my arms.

@alexandergeorgesgretener 3 жыл бұрын

i'm a pretty good/fast swimmer.... until I do tumble turns..

@dbabs1128 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, it is the same guy. U did not tricked me.

@andrewthomas8737 3 жыл бұрын

Tumble turns Geezers

@waynemar11 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re swimming faster than 1:50/100 fair enough but any slower and you have no momentum at the wall. Try doing another example with slower swimmers and there will be no difference at all.

@mikhaillastname8719 Жыл бұрын

why 1:50 not say 2:20? even if not faster flip allows for more smooth routine and also benefits to you mastering breath control (and maybe a dolphin kick though you can kick after touch-turn as well)

@Mach5sun 3 жыл бұрын

Does flip turn make me swim faster in a race? No? Oh. Guess I'll see you on the course then.

@selboury 3 жыл бұрын

Flip turns and push off the wall aren't useful for training for open water swimmers or triathlon amateurs, it gives you a false sense of performance... Some swimmers clear 10 to 15 meters at every flip turn while training then really struggle on a 2 mile OWS 😅

@realalbertan 3 жыл бұрын

Experienced swimmers are still probably way faster are open turns, especially those who have a lot of experience with butterfly and breaststroke

@trbeyond 3 жыл бұрын

i'm confused. if this was true, why aren't they doing open turns in the 50m freestyle?

@realalbertan 3 жыл бұрын

@@trbeyond you missed my point. A good butterflier or breaststroker can execute a faster turn than the average triathlete can doing a flip. They would of course be even faster swimming free and flipping of course.

@realalbertan 3 жыл бұрын

@@trbeyond there is no turn in the 50 Free unless you mean bathtub racing (25m pool)

@trbeyond 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking US college distance- even shorter bathtub!

@donatina1987 3 жыл бұрын

Ahah... you doubled up.

@tandersson 3 жыл бұрын

Forgot to mention that flip turns are great for building core strength (which obviously makes you a better swimmer overall). Oh, and freestyle touch turns just looks ridiculous so please stop!