I wish he’d pull GTR2 or rFactor 1 out for a new video

Technicaly speaking it's the same AI as in any other isiMotor game with small tweaks here and there, so it's basicly the same as in rF, AMS or in GTR Evo/Race series. As much as I like GTR2, the AI part makes it quite frustrating at times. Stuff like those fantasy times that they run in qualy, being faster in the wet than in the dry just to bunch up in first lap and crash into each other with zero spatial awareness or even just to t-bone me at every possible occasion makes me pretty much stop every try to run a offline season with this sim. Surpisingly in Jimmy's video the AI survived the chicanes somehow. When I tried that combo during my last offline season at Enna, cars were flying through the air. Anyway, I am glad that developers are past this level of AI coding today.

Funny how back then we all cried about how bad the AI was in isiMotor titles and now we watch videos of it and wish we had AI like this, not like in Assetto Corsa for example ... :)

Well, I mainly play rF2 so I am quite spoiled when it comes to offline racing. ISI did a pretty decent job in that area to say the least and improved it alot from rF1. I heard NR2003 had pretty good AI too, but I never played it. GPL seemed pretty good aswell from the few times I drove it, so maybe good AI is/was a Papyrus thingy. That said, those Papyrus titles were extremely specialiced to one kind of racing so it was propably a tad easier to implement them compared to the sims of today with all their different kinds of racing and rules. AC AI is still pretty bad, bud they have improved it alot from what it was at the beginning. AI coding isn't easy, so I still tip my had to Kunos for trying to implement it from scratch. Good thing is that most sims are evolving, so there is chance for improvement for all of them.

Why do you want Ai that crashes all the time its completely unrealistic?

There is a simple answer. Because that AI is not exactly a AI. The AI is not driving the car with the same phisics applied for you, and can brake, acelerated or move faster to avoid contact. On Assetto Corsa, otherwise, the AI have to be 10 times smarter because there are not any ways to avoid a contact if the AI cant calculate your moves like a real person can do in real life. In real life you can predict when someone is slower, or are changing the line for defense, the AI on a simulator cant predict this. Also, look to the first lap, he can overtake half of the grid. This is because the behaviour of AI is different on first lap, just to avoid contact. But make pole position senseless. If you can start on sixth position on GTR2 it is just the same of the pole. The AI on GTR2 also can run faster than 100%, and why? because the phisics are not the same. The devs did a good job to hide these things on GTR2, but if you can play Nascar Sim Racing, a sim by EA, you can see the strange behaviour. The AI slowing down 50, 100 meters before the corners and being stupudily fast on straights to compensate. The AI on GTR2 are doing this all the time, but on a hide way, and the players cant perceive.

I don't have my copy of GTR2 any more, I fell on hard times and became homeless for quite a while, yet it was my first ever experience of online racing, I got to the best and the worst, to my surprise I came 3rd in my first ever race, then I was running second after climbing the field, only for a deliberate act by 3 cars to go nose to tail horizontal across a straight on a blind corner, I didn't online drive again till 2014 :(.

Could you perhaps let me know what cumulative patch you found?

The game is more fun with the stock physics.

It is - something that's more worth testing is the GTR2 Essentials mod. Though it really has to be said, GTR2 is pretty much best if it's just left in stock form.

+scotty Reborn is more accurate though. thee Mitchi Why leave it vanilla when you can make the physics and the AI better ? I'm not saying you or anyone else should only play Reborn or NAP or anything like that but why leave it as it is when you can make it better ? Especially when you can have more than one installs and one can be vanilla.

I have my stock install still and made 1 for Reborn I just haven't had time to run it yet. Was just curious if Jimmy had since his video is where I heard about it.

Satellite Racing Oops my reply was meant for the guy below you, sorry :)

To me, those are GT2 cars. Proper GT1 cars are like the McLaren F1 and the Lister Storm, not the prototypes of later years.

(your reply confuses me....) It seems like GT1 and GT2 are classes that nobody really cares about when it comes to modern sims. I seem to be one of a very small group of people that would like to see more of it around, but yes, the McLaren and Lister are sweet cars.

When the ACO restructured their classifications for 1999, GT1 became LMGTP, (since they were all prototypes anyway) the class formerly know as GT2 became GTS. In the FIA GT series, the classes GT1 and GT2 remained, but what was the GT2 class became GT1, and GT cars (formerly GT3) became GT2. In 2005, the ACO renamed GTS and GT to GT1 and GT2 respectively. This is where people get confused on the classes of GT cars during the last decade. So for example, the Nissan GT-R was never technically a proper GT1 car since it competed under modernized GT2 regulations from the 90's. So by technical definition, the original GT1 died in 1998 when it became LMGTP, old GT2 (which later renamed GT1) died in 2012 when the FIA dropped them. The class once known as GT3, later became GT2, now GTE, is running on modern technical regulations from the 90's.

I see what your saying now..

Nick Gregory Thx! So confusing tho..

That was my attempt at saying specific. I'm glad that's the only thing you took from this video though (y)