Guaranteed: The Right Calcium & Alkalinity Tool. 2 Part vs. Kalkwasser Slurry vs. Calcium Reactor

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BRStv - Saltwater Aquariums & Reef Tanks

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Is two part the right calcium & alkalinity solution for me and my reef tank? What about kalkwasser or calcium reactors? In today's episode of BRStv Answers, Ryan & Randy are diving deep into the hobby's favorite calcium and alkalinity additives to answer which solution is right for you. Find the best calcium and alkalinity solution for your coral here!
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00:00 - Intro
00:09 - When Is Kalkwasser Or Lime Water The Right Solution?
04:40 - When Is Two Part The Right Solution?
12:18 - When Is Calcium Formate The Right Solution?
17:41 - When Is A Calcium Reactor The Right Solution?
24:25 - When Is Dosing Kalkwasser Slurry The Right Solution?
29:11 - Close
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@lucamartino3007 2 жыл бұрын

This is most likely the best alkalinity video on KZfaq. Balanced approach valid risk versus reward and costing info. It’s certainly the most modern one out there as you cover formate and slurry. Nice job guys.

@FoolOfATuque Жыл бұрын

Hope and pray is my standard MO when it comes to reefing.

@BadBarryNetwork 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing -as I am setting up my 2nd tank and running into alk issues. While I am starting with soda ash (waiting for that delivery from BRS now)it was great to hear about the calc formate as a potential solution in the future.

@tymega7680 2 жыл бұрын

I recommend a calcium reactor for anything over 120 gallons, depending on the your goal. Just my 2 pennies, thanks for the video.

@MyFirstFishTank 2 жыл бұрын

This was suuuuuper helpful!

@gonefishing5536 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2500L system and currently use slurry couldn't be happier, but I do manually add alot of trace elements and ICP test frequently to double check trace. As you said I would also recommend a monitoring system.

@meta4355 10 ай бұрын

you guys r AWESOME … no one comes close!!!

@richardbates893 2 жыл бұрын

Good job guys

@Sammy31Dee 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see BRS investigates All For Reef with trace elements on the BRS 160 ....add ICP so we can track trace elements ...next BRS should make their own version....I want to BUY AMERICAN

@nucciboy1 2 жыл бұрын

Yup. I’m using all for reef now. Seems to work

@TattooedDancer91 2 жыл бұрын

Your wish is for them to steal a recipe? How very American of you :)

@thilog5874 2 жыл бұрын

From Germany. You are welcome for all for reef or the Biontech vaccine. No. It is not a Pfizer vaccine.

@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын

We're done using the BRS160 for a lot of the investigates type experiments, but it would be really interesting to follow a tank exclusively run on All For Reef long term 🙂

@Sammy31Dee 2 жыл бұрын

@@thilog5874 BioNtech failed bahahah

@drsalomon123 2 жыл бұрын

I have tried kalk reactor and found it requires more maintenance than 2 part dosed through apex regulated by triton. In my experience the kalk becomes spent over time and as it approaches that point the alk swings down. Alk swings correlate with RTN/STN. Not a problem if you refresh kalk regularly but with 2 part, I can just have a ginormous soda ash and CaCl reservoir that does not change its potency over time. I still have the reactor and would love to try it if others have advice about how to maintain the same alk consistency as 2 part with minimal maintenance.

@MiddleAgedMike Жыл бұрын

Dosing a 3% slurry for over a year now. I have acros that are 10 inches across all the way down to frags. Wish the world look close at this option

@shane6450 9 ай бұрын

Can you please explain to me how to do this? I’ve been dosing Red Sea alkalinity for months and have seen improvement but I’m looking for a cheaper more effective option. I heard the slurry can destroy a tank, how do you know how much to dose? What is considered a slurry? How much water do you use? Do you dump it in the tank all at once or do you use a dosing pump? I’m lost.

@HNiCDuke 8 ай бұрын

@@shane6450your on youtube my guy, use it. Dosing kalk is easy. You can dose in with a dosing pump or put in in ato. Ppl usually do 1-2 TS per gallon of RO water. Mix and let settle.

@lN3Fl 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see a video on High alk and relation to nutrients and low alk and relation to nutrients. Relation to high alk and low nutrients burn corals??? Idk i hear this but dont know enough.

@drsalomon123 2 жыл бұрын

And for pH, home ventilation has been adequate. If you maintain 400 ppm CO2 in the room air, it will powerfully regulate pH. Just purchased whole home ERV to automate 400ppm maintenance. And elimination of organic carbon dosing helps to keep pH higher at least for Ethanol dosing.

@claudiamelfi3882 2 жыл бұрын

should do video more about kalk slurry I'm already using a kalk stirrer and supplementing 2 part. would be great if i could dose only kalk

@dannymieke 2 жыл бұрын

I use a sulfur denitrificator which results in 580 ppm calcium while kh is at 7 to the low side. Ph measures between 7.8 and 8.1 during daytime. I use ATI ´s 2part dosing also. What would BSR suggest to do to get ph higher, ca lower and kh higher.

@nilamotk 2 жыл бұрын

I just wanna bust your balls a little bit on ORP (oxidation reduction POTENTIAL) and how you guys stated you dont care about it as it's just the "potential" of of oxidation and you felt you don't really care and shrugged your shoulder about the "potential" part. PH is just the "potential" of hydrogen ;) and its really important as we're finding.. maybe you should do more of an investigations into orp and what it actually means for the reefing hobby.

@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын

By far my most favorite comment I've read this week! You are 100% on point. I absolutely want to know what ORP can do for me. I'm throwing this up on the board next Tuesday to discuss potential tests. Thanks! -Randy

@nilamotk 2 жыл бұрын

@@BRStv looking forward to watching and learning with ya 🍻

@igetlotsofspam 2 жыл бұрын

A calcium reactor controlled by Apex (w/kramoer, carbon doser, and trident) is the best solution I've used, and I've tried them all. Once you have your program in place it self-adjusted based on your alk. I have switches to raise, lower, and level my alk w/versions for day & night. I've been able to keep my tank within .1 swings. Media only needs to get replaced once a year. It's set and forget, if anything goes wrong I get an alarm. For a couple of months a year where I benefit from a PH boost (closed windows), I opt to add a kalk stirrer off a DOS but it's 100% not needed. W/a second chamber and drawing my skimmer air from the outside, I have no issues with ph. 2 Part worked really well for me for years but this setup is like going from hand-dosing bionic to dosing pumps all over again.

@born2beashooterjosh397 Жыл бұрын

I was just given that exact ph controller last wk got a new pinpoint probe and It’s dead on was just getting ready to order one thank god might allow me to get a dosing pump 😁 hahah

@karennation3580 3 ай бұрын

I started reefing 5 years ago and I was told that 2 part is kind of dated and I should use reef fusion or something that maintains and also adds essential elements. What are your thought? I live in fl and top of by hand so I heard that if you dont have much evaopration that you proabaly shouldnt use kalk. Is that true? Is reef fusion the only one that maintains alk? seems to work differently! I also need a ph jump! Whats a good choice for me?

@Wraxieus Жыл бұрын

Could I just add this to my ato reservoir? Got a 20 gallon nano and I evaporate around 1ltr a day?

@edwardthayer9386 2 жыл бұрын

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@barthellemans6062 2 жыл бұрын

what about the triton option, showing on your desk but when to use that ?? is it alk and cal plus trace elements ?? and can i use it from the start when just having frags to grow out??

@RoboNarples-et6ky 2 жыл бұрын

Triton is just a specific brand of 2 part.

@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын

Triton generally falls into the "two part" category, although it's really four parts. The big difference between the Triton Core7 and a more traditional two part like BRS calcium and alkalinity is that the Triton Core7 also includes trace elements.

@vinnnocc 2 жыл бұрын

how long can brs two part stay premixed for? say i mix up 1gal and tank uses 20ml a day that’s almost 200 days.

@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын

As long as you keep it sealed up to avoid any evaporation and keep it away from direct sunlight, it can be stored nearly indefinitely. 200 days is not a problem.

@guille85defy Жыл бұрын

Hello, can all for reef and kalkwasser be used? With the all for reef I maintain the parameters well but the ph does not rise above 7.9

@BRStv Жыл бұрын

you can use both, just keep in mind that kalkwasser also raises alkalinity and calcium levels. You'll have to factor that into your dosing volumes.

@jestronixhanderson9898 2 жыл бұрын

I mix up 100 litres at a time, then dose 2500ml a day for my 400 litre tank. It does 80% of my alk and calc. Two part is dosed by my alk controller. ,

@RoboNarples-et6ky 2 жыл бұрын

Unrelated to this video, but I'm wondering what fish ya'll have in the BRS/WWC e170?

@davidgarciajr5571 2 жыл бұрын

So can you add kalkwasser and all for reef or would that be overkill? Since you don't get and ph boost with the all for reef

@RoboNarples-et6ky 2 жыл бұрын

It probably isn't a good idea to mix multiple additives that fulfill the same roll. Personally I'd go with the all for reef unless you feel like you really need the PH boost or lower cost of kalk.

@justinthibodeaux1460 2 жыл бұрын

I'd go limewater (saturated kalk) at night and all for reef during day. This will help balance PH and add some trace elements. Best of both worlds..

@JeanEstevez 2 жыл бұрын

I started dosing kalkwasser everything close on the tank i don’t know why, dosing. * 1ML * every hour, i think im just going to rely on water changes for now

@scottshipley570 2 жыл бұрын

Mine drops down over the week just by having a skimmer running, my gf and two dogs breathing 😮‍💨 🤣

@fishpony1211 2 жыл бұрын

Interested in trying all for reef… hmm

@vargagergely152 Жыл бұрын

I would Just love to raise my ph ( my alk , calc , mag is a bit under i want .. i use 2 part dosing ( 3 part actually tropic marin balling) and want to know how could i Just keep constantly adding a bit of kalkwasser the whole day ? Like 1 drop every 5 sec or something like that ( my tank is 900 liter .. dont want to add kalkwasser in ATO because sometimes it Just fill too much once and I want to avoid a ph spike ) dont find anywhere a good video where kalkwasser support 2 part dosing :/

@BRStv Жыл бұрын

You can definitely add kalkwasser solution slowly throughout the day. Actually, one of our favorite ways to add kalkwasser is via a kalk stirrer and a dosing pump. This way, you can control exactly how much kalkwasser solution is being added to the tank each day.

@vargagergely152 Жыл бұрын

@@BRStv ty for the answer , u guys are always kind and helpful whit everyone 👍 1 more question if you dont mind : does it matthers when I add the kalkwasser? I mean I does TM balling abc each hour separetly in 24 hour( 8xA,8xB 8xCpart ) So can I Just split kalkwasser and add it for example whit C part at the same time ? 8 Times a day ? Ty

@janir1838 2 жыл бұрын

What is brs opinion dosing allforreef when lights are on and dosing kalkwasser at night? Will these mix right way in aqvariums?

@TattooedDancer91 2 жыл бұрын

Why not ask Tropic Marin that has made the product?

@janir1838 2 жыл бұрын

@@TattooedDancer91 Thats true. J will send e-mail tropic Marin 👍.

@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын

That's not something we've tried before, but in theory, there isn't anything that stands out as an issue in doing so. A lot of reefers mix different dosing methods together like dosing with a calcium reactor and kalkwasser. As a precaution, we just wouldn't dose them at the same time, which wouldn't be an issue in your scenario.

@jessejohnson529 Жыл бұрын

I think that CO2 is the problem with my tank. My tank is a 75 gal FOLR, and for a while we just had firefish and a clownfish in there, but since I've added 10 clownfish I'm seeing significantly lower pH into the 7.4s and lower, and have been trying to using Seachem Reef Buffer to raise the Alk (around 12 dKH) to temporarily raise pH, but over the next day or so the pH just goes back down and the dKH is too high to add more... I've taken the glass off the top of the tank and raised the windows in the house all day but the pH seems to never want to stay above 7.8. The tank has been cycled for a while, used NH3-H doing 2ppm and did water changes religiously. I definitely think its an aeration problem, but I need to find a way to reduce the CO2, raise pH without spiking Calcium or Alk. If I change to Kalkwasser, would that effectivly take the CO2 out of the water (maintaining pH) and raise the dKH at the same time (which would be like hitting two birds with one stone), BUT will this cause my Calcium to reach a point in which in it precipitates out if I start doing Kalk daily? If thats the case, would doing Mg along side Kalk help with the Calcium buildup while the CO2 and HO- make the carb/bicarb? I would really appreciate some clarification if I need to tweak my logic. Trying to avoid anything that affects salinity as I have finally gotten the hang of keeping salinity stable between top offs and water changes.

@jessejohnson529 Жыл бұрын

current tank stats are as follows: 10/3/2022 1:30 PM CLEAR appearance 77.8°F 1.0230 SG Alk 11.2 dKH pH 7.4-7.8 Ammonia 0.0 ppm Nitrite 0.0 ppm Nitrate 5.0 ppm Ten clownfish One firefish feeding one block of frozen food per day no corals the dKH seems to deplete at about 0.1 or 0.05 dKH per day, meanwhile the pH is in the toilet. pH kinda comes up around 7.8 during the day, but I'm worried about it falling very low at night which I think killed a Royal Gramma, a Snowflake clownfish and a Pigmy Angel. The two other specialty clownfish began showing signs of brook so I dipped them in Ich-X for the formaldehyde for 25 mins, and did a 20 gal water change, and they all seem to be doing fine now, except the pH is still going so low that its making me think its just a ticking time bomb for me to wake up with ten dead clowns.

@Haynaaan 2 жыл бұрын

Currently I am dosing Triton other method 100%, planning to switch to calcium reactor 70% Triton 30%. I am worried about ph and wondering if kalk will be possible in this case!! Any advice?

@BRStv 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of calcium reactor users will dose kalkwasser to help fight against that pH drop from the calcium reactor. It's actually becoming pretty normal to use both 🙂

@Haynaaan 2 жыл бұрын

But in this case I'll be running three things at a time. 1. Calcium reactor 2. Triton core7 and 3. Kalk. Is this easy to follow and tune?

@HugDeeznueces 2 жыл бұрын

where is the first part?

@RavineDriver 2 жыл бұрын

Let’s face it…the absolute best trace element solution is Reefmoonshiners. Hands down.

@jackielau1536 2 жыл бұрын

Having used Kalk on a 65 gallon tank, all I have to say is: “precipitation”. New reefers, be careful.

@jackielau1536 2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeRies that only works when the object providing the flow, is working. Google kalkwasser pump seizure

@audiotom3855 2 жыл бұрын

@@jackielau1536 then maybe you should clean that pump. Its never "set and forget" bro.

@jackielau1536 2 жыл бұрын

@@audiotom3855 and it’s all about reducing potential risks. Bro. You do you. Never hurts to learn the pros and cons of something.

@audiotom3855 2 жыл бұрын

@@jackielau1536 ok youre the kinda guy who's not reading and learning the pros and cons before you try something? if u talk about precipitation, you did something wrong. fact.

@born2beashooterjosh397 Жыл бұрын

I was just given that exact ph controller last wk got a new pinpoint probe and It’s dead on was just getting ready to order one thank god might allow me to get a dosing pump 😁 hahah