Guide to Manacapuru Angelfish

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This is my guide to keeping Manacapuru Redback Angelfish (Pterohyllum scalare sp.Manacapuru).
Along with my own photos, I have used photos from Horst Linke's book.
One more details which I forgot to mention when it comes to differences between Manacapurus and other wild forms of Angels is that most Manacapuru forms have exceptionally wide central stripe that in older fish becomes the only visible stripe.

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@PaulsFishroom 2 жыл бұрын

If you’re interested in seeing the strain that I have I’ve put a video on KZfaq showing the development from eggs to young fry of a few weeks old (Paul’s fishroom).

@kenthorn7322 Жыл бұрын

absolutely excellent discussion about this particular variant. A+++

@Red-Devi1 3 күн бұрын

perfect info ,thanks

@michaelyciano2123 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! You explained a lot of valuable information that I needed.

@punana4 3 жыл бұрын

What a great video, exactly what I wanted to know, I was trying to know because most retailers say super red and red back is the same fish ! Thank you for this

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. There is usually no way of telling a difference between regular and super red forms until you see an adult fish

@jimlubeskie4312 3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video. I have 3 manacapuru angels myself and I love them. Mine are very calm, very little quarrels with any other fish (one reason I like them)

@TrevorGreenfield2014 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this very informative insight into how to keep manacapuru angels successfully. Very helpful to me as I look to adding them to my collection.

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad the video was useful. I am sure you will enjoy Manacapuru angels!

@kenji.23 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for showcasing this type of angelfish! Just getting into Angelfish too so couldnt have come at a better time cheers

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

@gustavomendoza6952 Жыл бұрын

Mejor video sobre Manacapuru en la Web. Excelente!!!

@Ramraj07Manutd Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this informative video.

@ProtimAquatics 2 жыл бұрын

In India mostly we get crossbreed and Amapa Red Backs and all the sellers here label them as Manacapuru Angelfish. After searching for more than 2 years finally I have found the real Manacapurus today. Thanks Brother.

@abhilashsaha417 2 жыл бұрын

Hi i am from Kolkata, where you have found real manacapuru can you share pls?

@loitubiera2634 3 ай бұрын

I just order my first breeding batch of these babies. Great video bro. Thanks for posting.

@rebornshoebag 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect explanation mate. Lovely Thanks

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you:)

@NiX_aKi 3 жыл бұрын

I love your shirt!

@dougkidd4799 2 жыл бұрын

Great video thank you

@PaulsFishroom 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for an interesting and informative video. I’ve been keeping and breeding Manacapuru angels for the last 4 or 5 years and agree with much, but not all of what you say. For example, I find that the adults can be very aggressive towards each other both in a group or when breeding as pairs. I used to keep the adults in two separate tanks with the males in one tank and females in the other (I found this reduced aggression). Secondly, the strain that I have show full body bars and a reasonable amount of iridescence whereas there is a another “strain” that is lacking the body bars in the centre of the body but exhibit a strong bar that is closest to the caudal. Thanks again for the video 🤓👍

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! This is an interesting observation about body bars. I had a fully striped variant as well. They were German-bred and I had strong suspicions that they had some striped scalare genes in them. They were also far more aggressive than my solo-striped Manacapurus. Interestingly, all solo-striped fish are either wild caught or f1. Do you know whether your original multi-striped stock is tank-bred or wild-caught? There is also a wild rio Nergo scalare variant with visible stripes and red back, which is sometimes crossed with Manacapuru or labeled as Manacapuru. Simon Forkel (the prominent German breeder) says that striped red back variant is 100% rio Negro, not rio/lago Manacapuru.

@PaulsFishroom 2 жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub unfortunately I don’t know my Manacapuru origin they were simply purchased as Redback Manacapuru from a LFS. Simon Forkels comment are however very interesting

@kehw Жыл бұрын

My Manacapuru Angel fish were fed on Vibra bites and Prime reef flakes. Prime reef flakes are something a ram breeder told me about great food even for freshwater fish and normally at a great price.

@tropicalfishhub Жыл бұрын

I will try those flakes! I never checked marine foods before.

@massimomassimo5464 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@pezpythons1532 Жыл бұрын

I purchased 6 blue zebra angelfish online and it looks like they've sent me manacapurus! Ive had them about a month feeding tetramin granules and they all have orange back now and doubled in size!

@priteshnivangune3776 9 ай бұрын

Good information❤

@kye51961 2 жыл бұрын

Great informative video thanks, I have 5 super reds quick growing majestic fish

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@NYGOLD 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome information!!! I just acquired some Manacapuru Angels that are very small, I believe they are striped wild type. I'm hoping the get real big.

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Good luck with your Manacapurus. There is always a chance that they'll be redback because small fish never display red colour

@phillymanpete 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I have been in the hobby for 45 years and only recently have I been introduced to the Manacapuru Angelfish. In fact, I am going to convert my 90 gallon aquarium into a SA biotope with the Manacapuru as the feature fish - - a group of 5. I recently saw some juveniles at my LFS that were labeled as "Manacapuru." Now these could be red backs OR just plain zebra coloration. I thought all Manacapuru's were red backs until I watched your viewed. I will need to be careful when purchasing and ask to make sure they are the red variety.

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad the video was useful. Non-red back Manacapurus are a rarity and only specialised retailers stock them, in which case they always labelled as non-red back. but of course it is always safer to ask!

@riccardoricci9420 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this video. I wanted to ask you how many could I keep in a 360 litre tank? I was hoping to keep MAX 5, would that be ok or even more? Thank you for your help.

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You can have 6-8 of them in your tank. If they pair up and start breeding, you'd probably have to reduce their numbers.

@riccardoricci9420 3 жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub ah that’s really good I’m happy to hear that. Thank you so much.

@saviofernandes1557 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@mostafasamadi2345 2 жыл бұрын

Very beautiful 👏👏👏👏😍🥰🥰🥰

@hamaarahof5712 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! I was debating last year to ship them across the country (Canada), but than decided to wait and am playing with the idea to get Phillipino Blues. I just found some Thailand imported juveniles yesterday and so far are doing great. But so glad I found your video, was gonna add a 40 gallon tank, so better go to the 60 gallon instead. They are in a 20 gallon now, but only 4 month roughly. If they are truly calmer that`s great, but wasn`t aware they are bigger. Couldn`t find much info before, so thank you;0)

@tropicalfishhub Жыл бұрын

Thank you:) I'm glad the video was useful. If your angels are still juveniles, they should be fine in 20 gallons

@hamaarahof5712 Жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub Yes right now they are just 4 month old, so much fun to see them setting in well. Hope to get the Philipino Blue and maybe Bulgarian Seal Point some time in the future. Glad I waited, these seem to be very healthy, even though they were imported from Thailand two month ago. My mom used to have Altums with her Discus in Germany and I had some regular angelfish that bred in the past. Now just having fun to watch them and learn more. Subscribed and looking forward to new videos to keep learning;0)

@tropicalfishhub Жыл бұрын

@@hamaarahof5712 Thank you! Good luck with raising the Angels; it is always so much fun to see how they colour up and mature!

@mrswapyyc 4 ай бұрын

@hamaarahof5712 Where can I find these in Canada? I am in Calgary.

@hamaarahof5712 4 ай бұрын

@mrswapyyc Check with the Planted Tank in Edmonton. They have also a new website now, makes it easier to check inventory. Or give Gene a call. He brings some stock in on request

@hdyal1979 8 ай бұрын

Great video, is there a retailer in the UK you would recommend to buy these through?

@tropicalfishhub 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! Wildwoods used to import some German bred Manacapuru. I had mines from them. Sometimes Pier Aquatics also have some good quality ones in stock.

@DaisyUSA 2 ай бұрын

How often and in what percentage should water be changed in a 55 gallon tank ?

@chinesekid9456 Жыл бұрын

recently bought 2. at what age should i expect the red color to fill in? These were not cheap at $60 per fish at 3 inch size!

@tomwyatt899 3 жыл бұрын

I have been curious about the Mamacapuru. Thank you for the video. Is their temperament like a standard wild scalare or clam like an Altum? Thank you for your videos.

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

They re certainly not as calm as Altums. They can be rather quarrelsome with other angels, but tend to ignore all other fish

@tomwyatt899 3 жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub Thanks for the info and keep up with the videos. Very informative!

@loveisforever9739 18 күн бұрын

@tropicalfishhub sorry I'm late ....I said manachapuru ignore other fishes!!!..Do they avoid cardinal and rummy nose tetra too?

@Anarchy306 2 жыл бұрын

This is fabulous information. I am getting a small group of them soon, however there is conflicting information online about what is the temptature to keep them at?

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you:) temperature is the same as for other angelfish 25-28C

@juliaabelle8581 Жыл бұрын

I live in Sweden and too got F3 from a Polish breeder here who had his ones från Simon Forkel as F2 :-) Very regal fish and after having a nightmare of having black marble scalare constantly squabbling and killing each other, these ones are just "angels" for real. Have 3 of them and a zebra since before. They all got in pairs and divided the tank in two defending their territory. Though not closely as ugly as nasty black ones. Just miner pokes and pushes if a intruder approaches. They go with gourami and ternezias, very peacefully indeed, but as clearly an alpha fish of the tank. Colored out at probably 7-8 months in very bright red now though Tetra Pro color is not every day on their meny - mostly frozen larvae of all kinds, as I spoiled them, haha. They often ignore dry food nowadays.

@tropicalfishhub Жыл бұрын

I also noticed that Manacapuru angels are more docile than captive bred varieties. I guess decades of inbreeding has made marble scalare aggressive.

@juliaabelle8581 Жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub It probably what it is!

@waterlover 2 жыл бұрын

I have a pair that looked the ones you have on your video but the only difference is the have long fins. The upper dorsal bends and it’s long but the have a red back with the red spots where the red is but the two lower fins are almost neon blue. Have them for 6 months but they are a total of 9 months now pretty big but nit super big. Do you know what type I have?

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds like they are some form of cross; it is not usual for manacapuru angels to have neon blue fins

@Alex_Correa 2 жыл бұрын

So many questions come to mind when I watch your videos, I keep posting them so I don't forget... in your tank you have sump. In one of the pictures in this video there was an inlet for a canister filter. Why do you have a sump instead of a canister? I think sump would be cleaner and more efficient for gas exchange, besides easier to maintain. Are these the main reasons why you chose sump? Thanks very much for the videos and answers! All the best!

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you:) I used to have sump on my main display tank and canister on other smaller tanks. The sump was great, but unlike saltwater hobby there is no point of installing a sump on smaller tank; there isnt much of a bioload there so canister is more than enough.

@asurajeff6316 2 жыл бұрын

Hi i got 2 albino ones today, cool vid but my questions are how long is their lifespan and will albino have red back?

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of albino manacapuru! Regular manacapuru can live over 15 years.

@dexer8141 2 жыл бұрын

Hi…nice video. Do you think that manacapuru are bigger than rio nanay? Thanks.

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Yes they are usually larger

@Alex_Correa 2 жыл бұрын

What would be the minimum height for a tank with Altum or Manacapuru angels in your opinion, please? Let's say for a 180cm long and about 45cm front to back tank? Would 50cm be enough for it's height? Would those measurements be good to keep about 10 to 15 Altum and/or Manacapuru angels? Thanks!

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Yes your tank size should be great for a group of angels. Some people say that need minimum tank height of 60cm, but I think 50cm works quite well. They rarely grow taller than 30cm

@Norbiqwer1 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Sorry to bother You, but I got stuck. Do You have any information about Lago Grande de Manacapuru natural habitat? I couldn't find enough info about fishes, plants which are located there.

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

As far as I know its a blackwater biotope, with white sand, a lot of driftwood, leaf litter, but no aquatic plants. Discus also live there and geophagus, severums, many tetra species, including rummy nose, checkerboard cichlids, possibly no L-numbers.

@SHFT101 3 жыл бұрын

I heard you mention a PH of 6, how do you manage and maintain such a low PH? RO water?

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Actually, my tap water is at pH 7.0 and it drops to 6 or lower within few days after adding to aquarium. I have tons of driftwood which I believe helps to lower the pH a bit

@wolfhorn9315 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the good information. I will get my 12 Angles in the next days. Hope that 900 litres are sufficient 🙂

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Good luck with them! Your tank should certainly be large enough for this group.

@Arachloroptera 3 жыл бұрын

900 litres should be enough. But how tall and long. Preferably at least 5 feet long and 2 feet tall.

@kanakan-balintagos3512 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. I am about to buy a longfin manacapuru red back angelfish. Is the longfin variety a wild type or a new man made strain?

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

It is certainly not a wild type. Its selectively bred cross-breeding manacapuru with striped long fin.

@kanakan-balintagos3512 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. You are right. The seller just told me thar they're a new man made strain from Taiwan.

@KennyGarland 2 жыл бұрын

Would Super Red also be called Red Shoulder or is that a different variety?

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

Red shoulder typically is used interchangeably with red back, so it is the same fish

@sasikafish 20 күн бұрын

im watching this video 2nd or third time never gets old , nice video my ones did net get the color yet , still yellowish color 😁 . they are like 6 montha old i think i bought them in february . when i got them they are like 1.5 cm length . 5 inch height , never fed colour feedings until now . i fed ultra fresh exellent bits and dr Basler chlorella . now im going to mix vibra bites of hikari also . only gave that food two days . 🔴will they get the red color when they grow . they are in a bitope aquarium with geos an corydoras . n 🔴 giving a color feed disturb breeding ? our breeders don t give color enancing foods thats a pain 😥

@tropicalfishhub 20 күн бұрын

Thank you:) I'm happy that you liked the video. Some Manacapuru strains might take more time to colour up. If your fish are not from wild parents or f2/f3/f4, they may never get truly red because red colour begins disappearing with over breeding. I think you don't need to feed them colour foods, just wait another month or so and they may colour up

@andrewrodriguez7706 3 ай бұрын

Hi, I'm about to order 18 of them. They're coming in at 1.75 -2 inches in size. Would my 100 gal be ok?

@tropicalfishhub 3 ай бұрын

They should be Ok there as juveniles, but you'd probably will have to move some of them as they grow up

@nhimai7017 Ай бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub hi where can i order these? Thanks!

@claytons4579 4 ай бұрын

What is the name of the plant you have growing out of the tank?

@tropicalfishhub 4 ай бұрын

Pothos and monstera

@mohitbaid8148 2 жыл бұрын

How many of them can I keep in 46 gallons tank ? I have a few tetras as of now.

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

you can keep an adult pair of angelfish, or 6-7 juveniles.

@mohitbaid8148 2 жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub thank you so much and what if I plan to go with discus how many can I add ?

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

@@mohitbaid8148 You keep there a pair of discus but it will be too small for a group

@mccrabby7728 3 жыл бұрын

Is there anyway to identify between Male and Female fish when there young?

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, not. It is a huge challenge even when they re adults.

@Hnightcom 3 жыл бұрын

Is It normal a manacapuru angel red back without stripes?

@tropicalfishhub 3 жыл бұрын

Most manacapurus only have one noticeable stripe. Depending on their mood, they might display no stripes at all.

@nobrainsnoheadache2434 4 ай бұрын

I got ten yesterday :) now about 3 cm body, no red just yet edit 11:00 now I wonder, if 90 gallons is enough for that many. Besides catfish they are the only ones in the tank, I think they should be OK?

@tropicalfishhub 4 ай бұрын

90 gallons should be ok while they are juveniles. You'll have to separate them once they pair up

@nobrainsnoheadache2434 4 ай бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub Are they that territorial? Are they aggressive? Perhaps I should have done some more research before I got them, but I did learn a lot from your video. I grabbed them because my fish guy showed me some photos, but he didn't say much of any of the topics you brought up. I had koi angels in the tank previously, they were OK in there, but body size only about 8-10 cm. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post :)

@tropicalfishhub 4 ай бұрын

@@nobrainsnoheadache2434 angels will fight each other and other fish when breeding. However, there is no guarantee that you will get a breeding pair out of your group, so no need to be concerned about it yet. You can move a breeding pair into a different tank in case if they pair up

@nobrainsnoheadache2434 2 ай бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub well an update :) they are starting to get some colour on the back, and I have a couple of pairs at least. One has occupied front and centre of the tank and they are fighting off everyone, they even go at the intruder as a pair; there's a lot going on in there :) They are absolutely voracious, with very heatlhy appetites and they eat everything I give them. So far so good, they are turning out to be beautiful :) thank you so much for your responses and for making this video :)

@tropicalfishhub 2 ай бұрын

@@nobrainsnoheadache2434 I'm glad you are enjoying them! Sounds like there will probably be some spawning soon

@AgrimAggarwal1 2 жыл бұрын

fillteration ?

@Tooadie 2 жыл бұрын

Hm i did use the same tetra food now for 2 years on my red back but the are not red

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

well, a lot of Manacapuru angels are so heavily interbred that no food can colour them up! Most fish sold at non-specialist aquatic stores are likely farmed, I wouldn't expect much of them.

@Tooadie 2 жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub when I buy them as babys from fish store 2 years ago the told me the was F1 and the told me the will be really red but I cant even se somthing red 🤔

@tropicalfishhub 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tooadie That's strange! F1 should have a lot of red on them, especially at that age. Do you have a video of them?

@Tooadie 2 жыл бұрын

@@tropicalfishhub i do not only 1 pic