One thing to note is the increased active frames on winter cherry plus the tumble on Rensen means that if you hit the first hit of Rensen on someone pretty much anywhere but point blank, if you use a medium delayed winter cherry, it’ll actually hit the opponent during their tumble and allow for a second Rensen + non delayed winter cherry to follow up. Basically with a bit of practice you get two Rensen and winter cherries for hitting one. It’s very nice