Guitars vs Humidity | Guitar Tech Tips | Ep. 56 | Thomann

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Thomann's Guitars & Basses

Thomann's Guitars & Basses

Күн бұрын

Humidity is something we guitar and bass players like to ignore. But only until something bad happens to our instrument. Let's be aware of humidity and its effects before it's too late.
Learn all about it in this episode of Guitar Tech Tips. Enjoy!
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Interesting bits and pieces:
0:00 Introduction
0:35 What is humidity
0:56 What happens to a guitar if it's too wet?
1:30 What happens to a guitar if it's too dry?
1:51 How to dehumidify a guitar?
2:58 How to humidify a guitar?
3:52 Time for a test ride
4:27 Outtakes
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@zicon4
@zicon4 3 жыл бұрын
Just to add to the humidity conversation: the percent humidity he is talking about is called "Relative Humidity". Depending on the temperature, air can hold more or less water. This is why it gets so muggy in the summer if you live by a lake, river, etc, because higher temperature air can hold more water, making the air feel dense and uncomfortable. At a given temperature, there is a maximum amount of water the air can hold (100%). If the temperature goes down, it cannot hold all that water anymore, and has to let some of it go (rain, condensation on a cold glass, etc). Humans are generally most comfortable when the indoor humidity is somewhere between 40% - 60%. Apparently, guitars are a little more fussy! Great video guys, it's a topic guitarists don't consider enough.
@adrianojameson629
@adrianojameson629 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was into mentioning that. Not that someone thinks at 100 % humidity you are breathing pure water 😂🤘🎸
@j.a.s.1416
@j.a.s.1416 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone always forgets about relative humidity. To me that's more important when trying to hydrate your guitars in a room year around.
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that it’s the relative humidity extremes over an extended period of time that do damage. An extremely dry environment can destroy your guitar over time just as easily as extreme dampness. Since RH is a moving target in many places, everyone needs to be vigilant about humidity management, when to do setup work, and periodic measurement checking for changes.
@josephhughes9490
@josephhughes9490 3 жыл бұрын
Kris, This show was very informative for me. I live in a very humid state in the US. I don't currently own a acoustic but I have plenty of electric guitars. Great information Kris. As always it was great seeing your show.
@drcks
@drcks 3 жыл бұрын
That intro is gold.
@Galacticgospel.
@Galacticgospel. Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this information 😊
@johnviolette5511
@johnviolette5511 3 жыл бұрын
1) your hard case needs humidity too. Never use a D’addario humidipak until your guitar and case are at normal humidity levels. Otherwise, the humidipak will dry out quickly trying to bring both the guitar and case to the optimal humidity level. 2) never listen to someone one the internet who say they never worry about humidity. They might live in a part of the world with perfect humidity conditions and totally different than your conditions. Always use a hygrometer and the advice of a local luthier. In fact a hygrometer is most important because you will never know if you need to add or remove humidity until you measure it.
@qjarman7753
@qjarman7753 9 ай бұрын
Phenomenal video man… some great information imparted, I have a Taylor Baby with terrible high action and it’s showing 75% humidity…omg!
@erickmo1188
@erickmo1188 3 жыл бұрын
You can create a diy humidifier for your guitar cases by buying bar soap travel containers (soap sized plastic containers), drill 8- 10 .25” or 6 mm holes in it. Put a clean sponge inside and then add distilled water. Just enough the the sponge doesn’t drip when turning it upside down. Leave in case for a week and repeat as needed. I do this every winter and refill the sponge about twice a month.
@johnriley8314
@johnriley8314 3 жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT topic because FAR too many musicians do NOT truely understand what humidity can do to your instrument!!! People just don't take it seriously enough IMO. Humidity will reek Havoc on your instrument if left unchecked. "Why's my guitar fret buzzing all of a sudden?" or "Why's my acoustic cracking at the seam?" are just a few ????'s that pop up. Summer time is way to humid where i live, and winter time is usually dry as a bone. I keep my guitars (especially acoustics) in a case with proper controllers(humidifiers ,etc...) at ALL TIMES. I know alot of people say Keep it out because if ya see it you'll play it, but that;s simply not the best idea at all. Enjoying the series and a future show idea for me would be...what to do if your Truss-Rod is all the way adjusted out or in...many on making adjustments, but hardly any on this matter... Guess because i know the answer lol, but some may not!!! Stay Safe and ... PEACE
@stoicsceptic8420
@stoicsceptic8420 9 ай бұрын
I ignored humidity and stored my Martin DX on a stand in a room with high humidity ( 70% to 80% frequently experienced ) . The top swelled in a bulge behind the bridge , and lifted the string action to 4.5mm at F12 ! Store it in a case with reuseable silica gel to maintain a drier ( 45%-55% RH) atmosphere . Mine is slowly flattening out on the top , and if I’m lucky , the action will return to something like normal and something like playable. At least it didn’t crack !
@thebaneofyourexistence.3377
@thebaneofyourexistence.3377 6 ай бұрын
Where did you get the gel from?
@PTRK490
@PTRK490 2 жыл бұрын
the humidity in my bedroom where my guitars are hanging on the walls, changes drastically.. when i turn on the humidifier, it goes up very slow and when i turn off the humidifier, it goes down within an hour or less. either my room sucks dry or the hygrometer is lying. You can't always rely on hygrometers.
@boomerbassmeme
@boomerbassmeme 3 жыл бұрын
Good tip! I live in a humid environment and have to adjust my necks every now and then. Nothing extreme, but the action does raise a bit over time.
@pauldncn1
@pauldncn1 3 жыл бұрын
Cool subject Kris seen an acoustic crack left In a shed, banana fingerboard! Question A bridge on a tele appears to be causing string buzz can you file the bridge saddles where the string goes over? As always Thanks Kris
@michael_caz_nyc
@michael_caz_nyc 2 жыл бұрын
Great info Chris. This is often Overlooked, and can Ruin your guitar. My NYC apartment is Hot and Dry, so I need to run a room humidifier (constantly) in my guitar room during Winter. What is The Best "In Guitar Case" Humidifier? Oasis, Music Nomad or D'Addario Humidipak ??? - gotta Protect my babies !!!
@richardlowe8062
@richardlowe8062 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I never see mentioned is laminated top guitars aren’t as susceptible to humidity. I had two laminated top guitars in my house for 13 years no problems. Bought a Taylor this year a non laminated spruce top and it swelled up while the other guitars were fine.
@espcustom
@espcustom Жыл бұрын
cross grained wood or pieces glued together with grain in different directions will be less susceptible to humidity and temperature changes...it sucks that more expensive guitars are hence more fragile...but hey when you spend a nice coin, better off check your stuff up to avois your investment going down the drain..
@jjzorolowski5528
@jjzorolowski5528 3 жыл бұрын
If high humidity would be so dangerous for guitars all my instruments should be destroyed in a short time. I live on Corn Island, a tropical island in the carribean sea. The relative humidity is normal between 60 and 85% with temperatures 26 - 32° Celsius. I have two renaissance lutes, two classical and four electric guitars. All instruments are outside their cases and working fine. I only needed to adjust the necks of the electric guitars. I spoke with different luthiers for the acoustic instruments before I went from Germany to Corn Island. They all told me the instruments will probably not be damaged, only the sound of the instruments would be a little bit worse and it's possible the neck comes a bit to the front (but this didn't happened). That may happen, but it probably doesn't. All luthiers told me it's very more dangerous for the instruments when the humidity is too low.
@ItsChicoYo
@ItsChicoYo 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, humidity is not that big of a deal, unless we're talking about extremes... I bet musicians in the medieval times had they're instruments for a lifetime, this humidity topic has some truth in it but for the most part the instruments will be fine, but i def recommend a hard case if the person doesn't have alot of instruments.
@davidpersonneacousticcover5781
@davidpersonneacousticcover5781 3 жыл бұрын
How can you control humidity if you're playing an outdoor venue? Thanks
@aFfoochen
@aFfoochen 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. I live in a humid environment with humidity around 60-65%. The action has risen a lot since I came to the new city (2 years now), almost not playable. I now put 4 bags of silica gel into my guitar case which brings down the humidity inside the case to about 30-40%, would that be too low and cause damage? My plan is to take out the guitar once a day and play it for a while and then put it back.
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Sen, 30% might be too low. 40% is pretty good. Check the case a few times and if it's always around 30, maybe use one less silica bags. Cheers //Kris
@MusicTherapyLaz
@MusicTherapyLaz 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kris! Thanks for this awesome series. I've always wondered what the ideal humidity in my "guitar" room/studio should be? Mine is generally around 51%... and generally 67°-70° F in temp... it's important to me because I keep many of my guitars hanging up on the walls. Which leads me to this question... is there any known negative effect to hanging guitars up on guitar hangers outside of the obvious finish issues?
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses 3 жыл бұрын
Wall mount guitar hangers are great, they keep the neck pretty stable. If the room humidity and temperature are fine (in your case both are ideal) that's the best you could do. Cheers! //Kris
@MusicTherapyLaz
@MusicTherapyLaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Köszönöm! 😎🎸🤘
@AndersNilssonfotoanders
@AndersNilssonfotoanders 6 ай бұрын
Is it bad to use a Oasis humidifier in a gigbag when the home is dry? Does a gigbag leak humidity?
@coldragoon
@coldragoon 3 жыл бұрын
How do I fix the slight hump on the top of my acoustic
@javiermp81
@javiermp81 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kris! Honest question. I noticed the reading in your hygrometer showed 16 degrees C and 54%. Is the temperature still fine, even if it is much lower than the definition of room temperature (25 C)? I ask because I have my guitars in a basement room that is very constant at 18.5 C and around 45-50% humidity. I leave them all in the case because I fear it is too cold even in the humidity is fine…?
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, the hygrometer shows relative humidity and that's what matters. It was pretty cold in the studio (no heating, yay) but it was totally okay, because it was 54% RELATIVE humidity at 16 degrees celsius. So if you have 18.5 C and a relative humidity of 45-50% that's absolutely fine for your guitars. That has to be the best basement ever. haha! Cheers //Kris
@javiermp81
@javiermp81 3 жыл бұрын
Haha 😆. Yeah, climate wise it is an awesome basement room, especially in Summer. In Winter it goes down to just shy of 17 C, and there can be days when the relative humidity decreases to 35-40%, but otherwise it is really stable. I just thought the colder temperatures also affected the wood. My “problem” with the room is that it has lots of uncontrolled small room reverb. So I’m building some DIY acoustic panels with the Thomann Melamime absorber foam 😉. Cheers!
@russell290
@russell290 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a silly question but I haven't been able to find any information on this, do you need to humidify solid body electrics at all? The humidity where I live was 90% today
@DonaldMerrit
@DonaldMerrit 2 жыл бұрын
YES yes yes always try to maintain the humidity level for your electric guitars the neck can shrink and Warp
@ViktorStockmann
@ViktorStockmann 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Episode @kris and the Rest of the Thomann crew! I was really scared of the invisible monster...now I'm off buying a hygrometer to make the monster visible! 👻
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses 3 жыл бұрын
Good call Viktor! Thanks for the kind words! :) Cheers //Kris
@ViktorStockmann
@ViktorStockmann 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses thank you for saving our guitars' asses! 👍🏼
@ArturBrzozowski444
@ArturBrzozowski444 3 жыл бұрын
Because humidity is boring until you see something crack, I'll change topic a bit I don't know what smokes the editor but maaan, keep going 🤣
@tylerrosier1068
@tylerrosier1068 3 жыл бұрын
DampRid is also a great cheap product for humidity. 👍
@basvredeling
@basvredeling 3 жыл бұрын
can you fix fret sprout by humidifying a guitar?
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses
@ThomannsGuitarsBasses 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, to a certain extent. If it's not too bad and it only appears due to dry air, then yes. I couldn't wait for that though and filed the fret ends round in the first winter (=dry air in Germany) when I got my tele. It was fine when I bought it, became sharp in the winter. Since I filed them once I never had this issue again. So you can do both: always pay attention to the humidity level of your instrument, or file the fret ends once and then don't worry about them anymore. Cheers! //Kris
@haydenlee8332
@haydenlee8332 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more guitars made out of humidity-resistant / ultra-durable materials like Carbon-fiber. For hobbyists or people who just want less hassle, mitigation of environmental factors' influence on the instrument would be more useful than having a "perfect sound"
@hargoniyamaki5168
@hargoniyamaki5168 3 жыл бұрын
Those are certainly options, but having a connection to the tree and the wood can inspire different things from the player.
@countblue
@countblue 3 жыл бұрын
I am extremly lucky. I live in a condo that holds between 35-55% for almost the entire year. Only in the winter due to heating it falls on a few days below that 35% mark. I have sadly ;-) so many guitars I couldnt afford to put them in cases the are all hung on the wall.
@ItsChicoYo
@ItsChicoYo 8 ай бұрын
Don't be too paranoid tho, your guitars are ok.
@gonepickin990
@gonepickin990 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I have two hygrometers in my house where guitars live. I have a dehumidifier in the entry way where most humidity comes into the house. Winter is humidified by the furnace and I have let a blanket finish drying over the bannister when a quick blast of humidity is needed in the winter. I have a large cast iron kettle on the wood stove that is always refilled after I burn. These simple things are now habit.
@shleppy
@shleppy 3 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how dry it is in Alberta, Canada. I have a mist humidifier in this room and its 29%
@sorenahlback
@sorenahlback 3 жыл бұрын
Same here in Sweden. Wintertime it can be 10-20%. I have a humidifier and have the door closed and still I barely get 35-40%.
@PTRK490
@PTRK490 2 жыл бұрын
@@sorenahlback i have a humidifier along with two hygrometers, one digital and one analog. The digital changes quickly, for example from 38% to 43% within 25-30 minutes, and then it goes down fast from 43% to 38% when i shut down the humifier. It changes very much while my analog, stays at one level of humidity for hours and it sometimes rises to 50-60%! I don't know which one is accurate.. so frustrating.
@greatsouthernpansy
@greatsouthernpansy 3 жыл бұрын
"Metal doesn't shrink" is very 80s statement :D
@nikotsalis
@nikotsalis 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Kris good evening from Greece. Thank you for your video(s). Totally understandable what you told us. But I remember a part of a Jimmy Rosenberg's interview telling that, for better guitar tone you need to keep your instrument totally dry, suggesting to use the music hole as an ash tray. Do you have any comments on that? (Jimmy Rosenberg the gypsy jazz musician)
@eclipsekitsune4837
@eclipsekitsune4837 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this applies for electric guitars too?
@jishnubiswas8905
@jishnubiswas8905 3 жыл бұрын
No it’s for guitars made out of wood
@eclipsekitsune4837
@eclipsekitsune4837 3 жыл бұрын
@@jishnubiswas8905 electric guitars are made out of wood though? Unless you play an aristides, since those are made out of a material called Arium.
@PTRK490
@PTRK490 2 жыл бұрын
@@eclipsekitsune4837 still figure that out but yet nobody gave a straight answer
@ItsChicoYo
@ItsChicoYo 8 ай бұрын
​@@eclipsekitsune4837Some parts are made of wood tho, but from what i have heard humidity barely affects eletric guitars.
@dagoat8319
@dagoat8319 3 жыл бұрын
OK
@FoxMulder22
@FoxMulder22 6 ай бұрын
Ich hätte grundsätzlich meine Wäsche im Wohnzimmer auf wo meine Gitarren hängen oder stehen. Luftfeuchtigkeit zwischen 60 und 80 %. Wenn es zu feucht wird, setze ich einen elektrischen Luftentfeuchter ein.
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV 3 жыл бұрын
lmao...guess where my instruments have been in my house for the past 5 years? The Laundry room lol. That's no joke either.
@scottbubb2946
@scottbubb2946 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@countblue
@countblue 3 жыл бұрын
If you live in a rather dry climate, which is a thing I dont know, that might be perfect. It could just balance it out.
@scottbubb2946
@scottbubb2946 3 жыл бұрын
I just noticed this morning that it's so humid here that my toilet paper is drawing the moisture out of the air. I was thinking about how my mom used to put a piece of Saltine cracker in the salt shaker to draw moisture. Although I wouldn't recommend throwing crackers in your guitar case. 😂
@jaumemercader7090
@jaumemercader7090 3 жыл бұрын
Yu
@saucermanraygunx1815
@saucermanraygunx1815 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha!
@fickbasterd
@fickbasterd 3 жыл бұрын
welcome to harley benton guitars
@timothywright5369
@timothywright5369 3 жыл бұрын
I've been putting silica gel packs inside my acoustics for years. I freaked out when you mentioned them because I was thinking of asking.
@evanharnett
@evanharnett 3 жыл бұрын
Future topics: best way to thin a fat neck and best way to reduce weight of strats and teles.
@andreasbravos7943
@andreasbravos7943 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kris, what about electric guitars and humidity?
@szrnkabela
@szrnkabela 3 жыл бұрын
Same rules apply for the neck. The body can deform on the spots where the lacque is damaged or not present.
@andreasbravos7943
@andreasbravos7943 3 жыл бұрын
@@szrnkabela According to your information I understand that those rules are applied for unfinished necks. For finished necks, we have to care about damaged points. Am I right?
@szrnkabela
@szrnkabela 3 жыл бұрын
@@andreasbravos7943 The fretboards are either unfinished or get spots where the finish comes off with the time. Neck joint cavity is sometimes unfinished for perfect sustain.
@FoxMulder22
@FoxMulder22 6 ай бұрын
Ich finde es schon seltsam, dass ein deutsches Unternehmen in Englisch ein Video hinterlässt, weil sich Amerikaner oder Engländer nie die Mühe machen, ein deutsches Video zu hinterlassen. Wir haben doch so eine schöne Sprache.
@hargoniyamaki5168
@hargoniyamaki5168 3 жыл бұрын
OK, listen up. The RH of your home, not the case, not the room, needs to be 50% every day and every night for your guitars to be healthy. You can accomplish this with affordable humidifiers in winter and dehumidifiers in summer. It is a waste of money and time to humidify in the case or in a single room unless you can play the guitar while it is in the case. Once you take it out, it is subject to the conditions of the room environment you have now placed it in. Honeywell and Pure Air make the most reliable humidifiers for winter, while Danby (in my experience) along with Toshiba (Danby, anyway) have been the most reliable dehumidifiers for me. If you manage humidity in the whole home, you can display, play and enjoy your guitars whenever you are motivated, rather than putting them in a case and hiding them from the world. This process of purchasing and maintaining proper equipment requires a minimal investment of money and time. Changing filters and paying for them can get a bit frustrating as they don't last as long as they should, but overall it is very easy to keep the RH at 50% every day. The amount of power these machine consume is nothing compared to the cost of humidifier filters in the winter. I have been caring for an extensive guitar collection my entire adult life. I have guitars as old as 1929, and instruments from the modern era. If you maintain the RH at 50%, you will also note that your cabinets and hardwood floors remain in mint condition, pretty much permanently, so it is not just your collection that benefits. Having stable humidity in the home also assists in maintaining good health, and being able to predict exact cooking times for items you roast and bake (seriously affected by humidity swings). If you allow wild fluctuations in your home's humidity, you will suffer the consequences. As a technician, I have seen guitars with their binding peeling from dryness, and guitars with domed tops from humidity. A guitar is a thing of beauty, and should be loved and cared for. Whole home RH control is the only way to ensure absolute safety for your treasured musical instruments. I will make a video on my channel covering the equipment you need in the next few days.
@latouselatrec
@latouselatrec 3 жыл бұрын
Why are you using other people's video to advertise your site. That's low class
@hargoniyamaki5168
@hargoniyamaki5168 3 жыл бұрын
@@latouselatrec if I were using this reply to promote my channel, my promotion would appear at the top of this lengthy comment. A reader has to wade through a tremendously long response to see how low class I am, in your opinion, but your response rather instantly tells us your reasoning skills are at a very simple level, doesn’t it?
@latouselatrec
@latouselatrec 3 жыл бұрын
@@hargoniyamaki5168 typical sophistry reply.oh and grow up will ya. You act like an adolescent
@Adrian-yi8fl
@Adrian-yi8fl 7 ай бұрын
I should have listened to you. This morning I opened my guitar case and my beloved guitar exploded in my hands. Turns out I only had 49% humidity in the room. 😮
@calebriley7611
@calebriley7611 Ай бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH! I can’t believe all these people are trying to keep their guitars in cases😂
@bazerkly907
@bazerkly907 2 жыл бұрын
Solid wood guitars need 70% humidity..... Dry air damages solid wood instruments
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