Gun Cleaning & Solvents

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GunBlue490

GunBlue490

11 жыл бұрын

Retired city police captain, NRA Police Firearms Instructor, NRA Distinguished Expert, and certified factory trained armorer for Ruger, S&W, and Remington explains the proper procedure for cleaning guns and the selection and use of solvents.

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@freeamerica8430
@freeamerica8430 9 жыл бұрын
As a recently retired LEO you can't buy the fantastic knowledge this gentleman has gracoiusly given us for free. Thank you.
@vitodelorto1796
@vitodelorto1796 3 жыл бұрын
He is very good. I'll lay some even better stuff on you. You know what spent charge is mostly comprised of? Carbon. You know what one one of the best carbon solvents ever made was? Gumout (carberator cleaner spray). It blows the carbon off your whole gun. Grooves, channels, races, in between spring coils- everything. It just blows your gun clean, no Q-tips brushes, or anything. It is also fast evaporating, so your cun is cometely dry, 30 seconds after spaying it clean. Spray it all clean, spray it with rem oil, pull your snake through, wipe everything off- DONE.
@elkilachoCink
@elkilachoCink 2 жыл бұрын
@@vitodelorto1796 thanks 👍
@elkilachoCink
@elkilachoCink 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@Ali-7676
@Ali-7676 2 жыл бұрын
as a pizza lover, i agree.
@machinegreen1413
@machinegreen1413 8 жыл бұрын
I've been a CNC machinist for over 20 years and everything you say makes sense. Some viewers will watch with open mindedness and inquisitiveness. Some think they know better. I learn from you and I thank you for that. Please keep sharing.
@fluxcapacitor05
@fluxcapacitor05 3 жыл бұрын
The absolute best shooters in the world, in every single category, clean their barrels every 100-200 shots at a MINIMUM, and as little as 10-20 shots at a maximum. I think there's something to that technique that GunBlue isn't considering. Afterall, they hold world records, you, me, or GunBlue don't.
@disgracebook5708
@disgracebook5708 Жыл бұрын
@@fluxcapacitor05 Just because everyone does it doesn’t validate the procedure.
@nacho.4583
@nacho.4583 8 ай бұрын
@@fluxcapacitor05 The absolute best shooters in the world are usually sponsored by cleaning products makers to use their products. Besides, many people clean their rifle barrels too often simply because they uncritically mimic what other shooters do.
@zayacz123
@zayacz123 6 жыл бұрын
I was a firefighter for 35 years. I learned a few things. Some big ones: Never take flammable liquids into a basement. Never get them near a furnace or water heater. Another good thing to do is, whatever you use that’s flammable, learn whether it’s fumes are heavier or lighter than air. Gasoline has fumes that are heavier than air. You can cause a fire that’s far away from the liquid. It’s the reason repair garages have their heating appliances and hot water heaters high in the air. I love your channel!
@keithreinert5835
@keithreinert5835 5 жыл бұрын
Ed Zoltay I learned something I never thought to think about. Thank you.
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles Жыл бұрын
Every spring, you hear about an inboard motor boat going kaboom.
@cdavidlake2
@cdavidlake2 7 жыл бұрын
The most engaging 20 minutes on gun cleaning I've ever come across. Thank you, sir, for sharing your knowledge.
@sebastianniemiec8647
@sebastianniemiec8647 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I'm begging my hunting adventure in my 40's its not so easy here in Poland. Only few guys with basic knowledge. You sir share more knowledge that one like me can find in the books. Watching your videos is like listening to my grandpa. Jaw dropping.....no just respect for sharing. Your knowledge is simply fundamental. TRUE educational mission on YT indeed.
@williamjohannesen8342
@williamjohannesen8342 2 жыл бұрын
Your the only guy I watch about firearms ect on KZfaq, I have learnt more from you in 2 months than I have off people in 2 year please keep up the great work with your outstanding knowledge, you are a massive credit to the shooting community 😁👍
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and God bless.
@peterpaul6725
@peterpaul6725 7 жыл бұрын
I do not usually watch long videos, I find it boring. Yours is an exception and I appreciate you sharing your vast knowledge with us. Thanks from a retired Puerto Rican gun enthusiast.
@PlatypusAurelius
@PlatypusAurelius 4 жыл бұрын
It is wonderful to listen to someone on KZfaq with actual expertise on a subject matter. Wonderful.
@Calhoun1224
@Calhoun1224 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You are the voice of reason in the gun world. I am an gunsmith and if people took your advice I would loose most of my business of cleaning and maintaining firearms. Please continue to make videos and impart your knowledge to the shooters of the world. Thank you for your years of policing. May God bless throughout your retirement years. Karl
@777rickster
@777rickster 10 жыл бұрын
Machinist, Metalurgist & Gun Expert all rolled into one. Advice without the hype. Thank you.
@25by30
@25by30 9 жыл бұрын
You are very knowledgeable and what you talk about makes good common sense. I wish you where my neighbor. Folks like yourself are becoming few and far between. Keep up the good work and please continue to share your wealth of knowledge.
@stephenhair5501
@stephenhair5501 5 жыл бұрын
Years of experience and Wisdom. Shared freely for all with an open mind. Thank you Sir for all of your time and videos!! Very much appreciated. And a treat for Benny!!
@ChiefDunham
@ChiefDunham 10 жыл бұрын
This video is, by far, the best video on firearms cleaning I've seen on KZfaq. One reason is that it confirms all that I have learned and come to believe after 50+ years of shooting, reloading, and, of course, cleaning firearms. Thanks for bringing common sense back to this subject.
@steveshooter9010
@steveshooter9010 8 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite channels! I learn every time. I also have enjoyed your shooting instruction videos. 20 plus years of military training and I'm still learning. Thanks~!
@andrewdomenitzdmd
@andrewdomenitzdmd 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I heard what you just explained here 40 years ago. You sir are a wonderful teacher of a subject I absolutely love. I read a book on internal ballistics way back when and I wish I still had the book or a newer version if anything has changed. I have read books on the history of guns which are so detailed I get lost in it. I cant say I understood all of what were in them but I got a good gist of things about the proofing they did back in the days. It was all about different countries and steel and how they manufactured things. Fascinating to me. Thank you, I am going to watch everything you have
@RDale-
@RDale- 3 жыл бұрын
I have learned more about firearms in the last 2 weeks than what I ever known listening to your channel. I have a whole new perspective regarding cleaning, maintenance, accuracy and calibers. Your historical caliber knowledge is amazing.
@Zyphen4866
@Zyphen4866 2 ай бұрын
How bout that knowledge now? There's definitely an art to it I've began to notice
@neilsmith3738
@neilsmith3738 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. God bless. I generally wouldn't sit here and listen to something like this for 20 minutes, but I've enjoyed listening to your knowledge.
@vigidriver6281
@vigidriver6281 7 жыл бұрын
I enjoy cleaning my firearms and the firearms of my family. For me, it is perfect Gun-Oil Therapy. I feel like I accomplish something good after an afternoon or evening cleaning, polishing and waxing our firearms. Plus, it keeps me busy and off the streets. :-)
@chrismoody1342
@chrismoody1342 5 жыл бұрын
I think this video was one of the best videos I’ve ever seen. All the info in regards to barrel rifling and their irregularities makes perfect sense. I can easily see how the copper will fill and eventually become burnished smooth. Thank you for your excellent presentation. I’m going to subscribe and learn as much as I can from your years and wisdom. 😎
@nathanielmisouri
@nathanielmisouri 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent information sir. I've watched a couple of your videos and really enjoy it. I work as an engineer in metals, blasting and play a rifleman on weekends - you've nailed it here. I hope the rest of the viewers and can see how much sense these ideas make. Thanks for posting!
@arthursmith643
@arthursmith643 8 жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough. I watch all your videos. You are a wonderful teacher. You explain in detail with great passion to teach us.
@aleksfoxtrot8044
@aleksfoxtrot8044 7 жыл бұрын
I found your channel I'm enjoying it. I wish more people would listen to people like you that have been shooting and cleaning for YEARS instead of some tactical guru selling snake oil.
@robertchandler2573
@robertchandler2573 9 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your videos. The info on barrel manufacture was very interesting and helpful. I'm just getting back into shooting after a 28 year hiatus. After watching many gun maintenance vids, yours are so refreshingly sensible! Nice to see you have not fallen for all the snake oil and mouse milk hype surrounding gun oils and solvents!
@fluxcapacitor05
@fluxcapacitor05 3 жыл бұрын
The absolute best shooters in the world, in every single category, clean their barrels every 100-200 shots at a MINIMUM, and as little as 10-20 shots at a maximum, using all sorts of solvents. Some like Eric Cortina even use hard cleaners like CLR. I think there's something to that technique that GunBlue isn't considering. Afterall, they hold world records, you, me, or GunBlue don't. I would be careful what you call 'snake oil'.
@disgracebook5708
@disgracebook5708 Жыл бұрын
Mouse milk & snake oil endorsements pay for a lot of salaries though 😉
@rickfromtexas4659
@rickfromtexas4659 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I enjoy your no-nonsense approach to firearms and their maintenance. Your sharing of your knowledge has contributed much to my learning although I felt I was already knowledgeable about firearms. Thank you for taking the time to make these informative videos.
@nexgen91
@nexgen91 7 жыл бұрын
So far your video has given me the best run down on the methods of barrel rifling on all of youtube. Thank you
@Mr42960
@Mr42960 9 жыл бұрын
Copper equilibrium is the term. Accuracy is best maintained if the copper is not removed every time you shoot.
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 9 жыл бұрын
Mr42960 Exactly.
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 6 жыл бұрын
Accuracy is best maintained if you don't have copper fouling period. Fouling is CALLED "FOULING" BECAUSE ITS AN UNDESIRABLE, ABNORMAL CONDITION.
@1madmax22
@1madmax22 5 жыл бұрын
So the copper left behind is helpful towards conditioning the barrel? Should the copper EVER be removed?, or just clean the barrel as usual and if it leaves a little copper behind, that fine? I'm asking because this is something I haven't heard about from anyone. If this is like seasoning a cast iron skillet, I get it, but even after seasoning a skillet you can't use soap on the surface anymore or it washes the seasoning right off and then have to re-season if you do. help with some clarification please. Thank you GunBlue490...weapon info just keeps pouring out into these videos, and is greatly appreciated.
@troytownsend2597
@troytownsend2597 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely cutting against the flow of the popular opinion of the masses .one thing for sure is that there is much to learn and discern concerning information shared by many experts on rifles, and this video sure doesn't make things easier. I do relate to your sharing that it seems like the blue green copper buildup seems to have no end. I have heard that leaving a copper solvent soaked rag was the way to go, bit then I see a video where some experts share that you should never leave anything soaking in your barrel overnight. What did I ever get myself into. Well At least you reinforce your findings with sound logic. So the thing this video now has me contemplating is, is leaving the copper in the barrel like putting a band-aid over an infection, or is it like putting a silver filling over a tooth cavity? I guess that in the case of the silver filling going over a cavity is that the rotten part is scrapped out before they cover it up. So is there anything under the copper in the rifle barrel that will cause it to rott inside out. I'm surmizing that all the gunk that we clean out of barrels, besides the copper, could be covered up by the Copper. Like say from the first bullets that were fired before the last bullet fired through the bore, before cleaning a barrel. But we clean that stuff out to clear a pathway for the barrel to fly out unhindered by obstacles, but then again I have heard in some cases a bullet sometimes flys strainer out of a dirty rifle, back to learning and discerning.. But what causes erosion. I know the bullet passing through a barrel at a velocity of 2700 fps will displace metal in a bore, but what about divets or cavity holes in a barrel, such as I have seen pictures of, is that caused by fouling, or something else like condensation, and couldnt copper covering up rust due to condensation be like putting a band aid over a infection. I appreciate the time and effort to share the logic behind your video, and I will definitely give it a fair shake when I apply it to my rifle. Thank you.
@kmc669
@kmc669 3 жыл бұрын
What a wealth of knowledge this man is! Thank You for you service and thank you for these videos
@jimo680
@jimo680 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I wish I had watched this 6 years ago, lol. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and insight. You verified results I had found in cleaning 3 different eras (cut, forged, hammered) of browning high power and cz pistol barrels. I never realized that my cleaning results were symptomatic of how the barrel was made!
@tomjoseph1444
@tomjoseph1444 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you use Hoppe's 9. I have used it for over 50 years and my dad used it before me. And yes, it smells great. The smell of my youth. I bought a bottle for my wife as perfume. She was not so happy...LOL
@jimholloway3452
@jimholloway3452 Жыл бұрын
Tom, I have a Hoppe’s #9 air freshener in my truck.
@tfrost33elkhunter
@tfrost33elkhunter 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! I love the way it smells! Thank you for all your knowledge. I’ve learned more in the last year from you than I have in the last 50 from dozens of other!!! Thank you isn’t enough!
@discolemonade66
@discolemonade66 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your practical advice and experience. I've just found your channel and I am enjoying your videos.
@royblack8631
@royblack8631 5 жыл бұрын
I hope the "new" generation learns from ones like you, with knowledge and experience. Thanks for the info.
@whitesoxbob
@whitesoxbob 7 жыл бұрын
Great video . I was worried when I saw copper color inside the barrel of my new 38 special. I thought I was not doing a very good job of cleaning it. Now I understand that is not a bad thing. Thank You for the great explanation on this.
@cjmala3370
@cjmala3370 8 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel. It is excellent and I have learned a great deal in a short time. I plan on watching all your videos, especially the ones on handloading. Wonderful!
@RussSchampers
@RussSchampers 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this! I learned a lot from you about things I didn't know about barrel construction and their relation to cleaning. I'm a younger guy who doesn't know much about cleaning so this helped me a lot - thank you.
@upnorthgalcreations8381
@upnorthgalcreations8381 9 жыл бұрын
Russ Schampers me too.
@tedclutter7326
@tedclutter7326 7 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your expert commentary. Thanks for passing down your years of knowledge and experience. There is far too much pseudo-expert and advertising BS out there on such topics these days. Kudos to you, sir.
@disgracebook5708
@disgracebook5708 Жыл бұрын
Refreshing to find someone willing to genuinely pass along time tested field experience vs today’s hyper media sales whizbangery.
@larryticerm.d.1130
@larryticerm.d.1130 8 жыл бұрын
You sir, are a storehouse of knowledge on this subject and I appreciate your articles! Very good advice and very helpful and practical to know! And God Bless You Also!
@Al-Fiallos
@Al-Fiallos 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You bring a clear understanding of what is really happening inside the workings of a firearm. Now I know how to care for my firearms. I hope you post more videos.
@machbaby
@machbaby 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent, concise information. I learned a lot from this. Thank you, sir.
@MagnumMike44
@MagnumMike44 3 жыл бұрын
The plating of the bore with copper, which you referred to as "barrel conditioning", I like that better than copper fouling, which when I first started shooting high-powered rifles in 1986, I was told that I needed to get rid of copper fouling then I learned that copper platting is beneficial.
@dvet9
@dvet9 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Your calm and thoughtful videos are a welcome alternative to the many hyped up smartass people who have a video camera and think that makes them an expert in the field of firearms. Thank you.
@mikunan
@mikunan 10 жыл бұрын
I had to go back and watch this again , you are an excellent instructor. Very important information. Makes sense. thanks
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 10 жыл бұрын
LOL! Thanks.
@Blues-man.
@Blues-man. 10 жыл бұрын
It is refreshing to learn from someone that really knows what he his is talking about ! thank you
@degonzoman
@degonzoman 10 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that knows what there talking about. Thank you very much for the video, keep up the good work
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir.
@swampyankee72
@swampyankee72 Жыл бұрын
Great post, I am a forever fan of Hoppes, it brings me back to when I was cleaning guns with my Uncle John just before hunting season.
@gtd-sq2pj
@gtd-sq2pj 3 жыл бұрын
This gentleman always has good common sense advise. Thank you. And God bless you.
@ur2insecure
@ur2insecure 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to pass on your knowledge, much appreciated.
@MsPastor777
@MsPastor777 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all this valuable information. I just "discovered" your videos and I am enjoying every bit of them. Keep up the good work, God bless you and your family.
@lenwalker7393
@lenwalker7393 4 жыл бұрын
Th usual excellent video. I never get tired of listening to this guy. Thanks.
@pegleg1717
@pegleg1717 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, Someone who knows what they’re talking about! Thank you Sir for sharing your knowledge! I’m subscribing!
@jncarlos007
@jncarlos007 10 жыл бұрын
It would be so great to hang out with this guy for a day and just listen to him talk about guns. imagine all you could learn.
@cw5865
@cw5865 Жыл бұрын
I thought this and with your knowledge, has explained what made sense with the holes being filled in and the Carbon is more like sandpaper and thanks for the explanation of how barrels and coatings and jacket of bullets are made.
@baugwan1
@baugwan1 7 жыл бұрын
Warren Page wrote about how a clean bore was next to godliness and I'm no one to argue with him but after years of shooting I find what you say to be correct. As you point out the new way to manufacture barrels has more to do with how a gun shoots than anything else other and the nut behind the gun. Outstanding videos and very well articulated. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 7 жыл бұрын
baugwan1 Warren Page was deeply involved with accuracy shooting and cartridge development, and contributed much to the 308 and 243 engineering. Read his book "The Accurate Rifle" by Winchester Press, long out of print. He never used JB bore paste or any of the many aggressive procedures people now employ, and abhorred the notion. Cleaning as he did it, and as I describe, is 100% effective, simple, and without any caustic compounds. He would have appreciated hammer forged barrels and their nearly hand lapped smoothness!
@hughhughp68
@hughhughp68 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching this Man and his advise is excellent. My recent experience has certainly changed how I do things. I followed the traditional Way, remove the carbon, powder residue, and than battle the copper fouling. I have M700 Sendero in 270 Win. Very accurate Rifle. Recently it was shooting like 2 rounds together and the third one was an inch or 3 inches away. Constant fliers, well we checked the bedding, the mounts, Rings. Replaced the Scope, I had cleaned the Rifle Throughly , forty bronze brush strokes with KG12 copper remover. Well we bore sighted the Rifle and it was full of Copper, it looked like a copper mine. From Breech to muzzle, only an inch of Rifling showing up towards the Muzzle. That level of Copper was causing my accuracy issues, a little is fine in a barrel. Not the amount I had. Why the KG didn’t remove it ? I have no real idea, perhaps it has a shelve life and Mine is there a long time. However it was totally useless. We swapped the Barrel in ‘ Wipe out’ no brushing needed. Two hours later 70% of the copper was gone. That day I shot 3 rounds into one hole at 100 meters, no flyers, no nasty surprises. I than cleaned the barrel soaking it over night for 3 nights, again no brushing, no elbow grease, the barrel is spotless and copper free. I than cleaned my other Rifles. I think the copper build up was there for a few years, my other Rifles had very little copper. A bore scope will tell you if a solvent is doing its job or not. That’s the prove in the pudding. My days of solvents and bronze brushes is over.
@JW52654
@JW52654 3 жыл бұрын
I like this gentleman , he's very practical and full of common sense, thank you sir for your wisdom.
@rayauger4683
@rayauger4683 3 жыл бұрын
You are great thank for all of your explanations. I have been hunting since I was 10 years old only to find that I have been cleaning my gun incorrect all this time your explanations. When really think about are super informative Thank you love your channel
@brianmatthews2299
@brianmatthews2299 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very knowledgeable cleaning experience. I've been shooting all my life and always using Hoppe's products. I will pass on the info you have provided. Thanks again.
@disgracebook5708
@disgracebook5708 Жыл бұрын
I spoke to a successful, competitive, long range shooter recently. Asked him what products he uses, prefers Hoppe.
@edadpops1709
@edadpops1709 8 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that told me he only cleans his 1911 every 5000 rounds,i didnt know so i adopted his say so. I got to about 2500 rounds shot and decided cleaning was necessary. It took me 2 hours and tons of supplies to get it perfect,i decided my friend didnt know what he was talking about,i now clean after every range day,usually once per week. It only takes me 10-20 minutes. Ive used balistrol ,but hate the smell ,it gives me a headache and the wife complains. Im going to try hoppes solvents. Thanks for a great series of vids .a treasure.
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 8 жыл бұрын
Cleaning a gun is not unlike bathing. You can go 5 months without it and live, but it's not necessarily the best thing.
@JohnChubbSr
@JohnChubbSr 7 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos. Thanks so very much for your sharing of information.
@donholstein9333
@donholstein9333 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about Knowledge, GunBlue490 has it. Ask him how to clean a Bore ...he ends up telling you how to make one. Great information, Great presentation. I realize how much I learned and how much will never completely understand or retain. Thank you GlueBlue490 for sharing you wealth of knowledge 👏🏻👏🏻👍🇺🇸
@kkkngnavy1
@kkkngnavy1 2 жыл бұрын
I wished you could be my teacher for life, thanks for your wisdom, experience and knowledge. God bless you sir!
@featherst1
@featherst1 10 жыл бұрын
Imagine... somebody who actually knows what their talking about creating a KZfaq video. Ex-cop myself and thoroughly enjoy your submissions. Thanks for sharing your wisdom.
@bungalobill7941
@bungalobill7941 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. A lot of people over clean their guns, which is not necessary and can even decrease the life of the gun. You are correct. People also do not realize that the softness of bullet metal is the reason for the life of the barrel and why the coating of copper on the inside is normal. I have seen barrels badly fouled and built up with lead though. When solid lead bullets are being fired on a regular basis, more attention has to be paid to the possibility of barrel fouling.
@WholeCosmos
@WholeCosmos 8 жыл бұрын
I had the green patch problem too, I thought geeze my barrel is never going to come clean. However after realizing the bore brush was a copper alloy (Bronze: copper and tin) I simply didn't repeat bore brushing again and ran solvent through again with a clean patch and clean dry patches and solvent again and clean dry patches again and "voila" no green copper oxide residue on my solvent patch. It's not brass jacket (alloy of copper and zinc) plating of the bore, all that brass fouling from jacketed rounds gets brushed out and is dissolved by hoppe's 9, it's the copper coming from your bronze bore brush leaving residue and oxidizing from the solvent. The barrel steel or chrome is a harder alloy than a bronze brush so the brush leaves microscopic pieces behind but is a harder alloy than just brass jackets so it can scrape the brass from rounds out of the barrel. If you don't believe me use a nylon bore brush after using a brass one. Also hoppe's has kerosine and ethanol in it. I bet anything hoppe's is flammable but I have never been dumb enough to try igniting it. MSDS has the flammable box checked for Hoppe's 9. The bore does get "plated" as you say (plating is actually a permanent electrochemical deposition process) or "seasoned" or fouled with brass your first few shots and the POI changes that's why you sight in after a few shots after a cleaning and why one shouldn't go hunting with a freshly cleaned gun. Shoot it a few times the day before the hunt or target competition to make sure it is still sighted in and the barrel is "conditioned" with brass. That way your shots will be on target and also use the same exact ammunition to have the same POI. Furthermore I learned from chemistry classes that two different conductive metals Have different resistances to the flow of electrons and when two different metals with different conductivities or electrical potentials touch they start to react electrons flowing to one from the other. One side is oxidized the other reduced in a galvanic reaction. This is the basis of a battery and causes corrosion pitting and rust. So please clean the brass completely out of your barrel! Also the reason why oil (an electrical insulator) should be between every metal surface contact point in a gun. It doesn't have to be dripping, a very thin layer does the job. Especially if you don't shoot on a regular basis clean the brass out. The solvent base in Hoppe's 9, ammonium hydroxide, reacts with the copper alloy from rounds OR a bore brush leaving BLUE copper oxide. Although this destroys the potential galvanic reaction of the barrel to the copper, the copper oxide should still be removed completely and the barrel lubricated to prevent rust. Especially for long term storage or in high humidity climates. The green color is the blue (turquoise just like lady liberty) from the copper oxide mixed with the yellow color of hoppe's 9. yellow and blue make green! Oh and Hoppe's 9 has oleic acid in it (an oil, technically a fatty acid ) in it so you ARE oiling the internals of your gun GunBlue490. Just saying. The devil is in the details. Very good info on barrel manufacturing. www.hoppes.com/Hoppes/files/9d/9dc3db35-232c-4353-bc5c-9b3e79cfc834.pdf
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 8 жыл бұрын
+WholeCosmos I learned that as an electroplater of precious metals; gold, silver, rhodium, nickel, copper, etc. making coaxial electronic connectors in the aerospace industry after high school and on my return from Vietnam. We used to rig special jigs with a wire anode down the middle of cylindrical bodies in order to deposit plating, as electrical current does not flow around corners. While I have not seen the system used by barrel manufacturers to hard chrome barrels, I presume they chrome plate bores the same way. I have read tedious articles about how some uninformed folks scrub such barrels with abrasives, which does nothing except wear through that precious plating that's intended to make the bore slippery and make undue cleaning unnecessary..
@jimskelton1355
@jimskelton1355 9 жыл бұрын
Hugely educational - thank you! Your take on all this will send many in the firearm community off the edge where lubrication is concerned. Or perhaps that is better said as your thoughts on NO lubrication needed will do so. I've always tried to keep it (lubrication) to a minimum, but not to this degree. Must rethink my entire approach to cleaning, storing, and prepping to shoot. I would add this thought for those who may listen and consider. I've been involved in the synthetic oil business as a distributor working mainly in the motorcycle aftermarket arena, specializing in air cooled V-Twin Harley-Davidson Evo engines. As a long time Harley owner and long-distance rider (member, Iron Butt Assn.), I can tell you that those Harley folks, especially the factory trained techs, absolutely HATED the idea of using a synthetic oil in those engines and spread many tales of woe and disaster that were going to happen to any engine that got those products installed. It was all a lie, corporate fueled so as to promote using H-D petroleum based oils, which was all they had to offer until about 2005. That was when Harley introduced its own synthetic lubricant, Syn-3, under the H-D Bar and Shield. Now dealers could make a buck with synthetics. As if by magic, all was suddenly well in the world of use of synthetic il in a air-cooled V-Twin, and all those old tales they had so well told disappeared. I had predicted this exact thing in response to a letter to the editor at a National Motorcycle magazine that focused on Harleys by the head Tech at a dealership. He was rabid in his hate for synthetics and disdain for anyone using them. I asked him in my response what he would have to say to his customers when Harley put one on the shelves of his dealership. He didn't reply. About two years later Syn-3 hit the shelves. I still wonder how he explained himself. Apoogies here - this is turning into a note about Harleys, not firearms. Let me get on point. I tell you this because I see some stuff here on the net that talks about using synthetic gun oil in much the same way. And they are just as wrong as Harley was back then. I use a Birchwood-Casey synthetic oil to lubricate and protect all my firearms for the same reasons I run it (synthetic products for vehicles) in my Motorcycles (any make or model), my auto and truck, lawn care equipment, and would, if I owned one, in a boat, off-road vehicle, snowmobile, or anything with a motor that gets hot as it operates, has potential for metal-on-metal contact with internal surfaces if not lubricated that will destroy an engine in very short order, or operates in extreme cold where the temps "thicken" the lubricant and cause things to gum up and seize. Firearms can suffer from these same conditions. To say they get hot when fired is an understatement. You want a lubricant that does not lose it's viscosity and therefore its ability to protect under stress. You want a lubricant that will not get thick (I'm using that term for effect - its not the technical way of expressing it, but you get the point.) You want a lubricant that will not run off the surfaces as it sits. You want a lubricant that provides a microscopic, molecular-level film that keeps any metal-on-metal contact from happening. And you want a lubricant that, in and of itself due to the inherent properties of a properly formulated lube, will assist in containing residue created by extreme conditions. Synthetic lubricants - oils, if you will - do all that and more So while I am intrigued by this presentation that essentially says NO LUBRICATION REQUIRED, I can't quite buy into that 100%. May get there, I don't know. I know that at this point I won't be comfortable with an entirely dry gun, either firing it or storing it. I may well reduce even further the (very few) places I have been lubricating for the past 50 years, and stop using that second drop when one will suffice. But I will ALWAYS use synthetics. Flat out truth is THEY WORK BETTER than ANY petroleum based formulation. And that statement is based on unbiased, independent, controlled labratory testing, not opinion or conjecture. Thanks for listening. And thanks again for this very educational video - I finally know how to swap out magazine springs and what is meant by a "hammer-forged barrel", and why, exactly, having some copper remain in the barrel is actually a good thing! Look forward to more of your wisdom from the years ...
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 9 жыл бұрын
+Jim Skelton Jim, your wisdom on lubrication of machinery is well-founded. However, let me elaborate on the dissimilar nature of the beasts, and remember that my intended audience is the sport firearms shooter. While I am fully familiar with, and have great experience with machine guns, none of my comments are directed at those who expend belts of ammo from a mini-can. So, let me explain... As you know, engine parts are heated due to a combination of two factors: Internal combustion and friction. While it can be logically derived from this that firearms produce heat by the same corresponding factors, they do not. In an engine, both sources of heat are combined in one monolithic block of metal, where one feeds the other so intimately and efficiently that water and/or ambient air must flow deeply into the parts to get them cooled. Even if the engine were not firing, copious and continuous bathing of oil is necessary to prevent seizure or galling due to friction of interacting metal surfaces. An engine is described in terms of continuous service. Once started, the owner's manual imposes no time limit on its operation, except to change the oil. Now, let's examine a gun, and see how it compares. Remember that while I am speaking of non-military firearms, most of this would hold true for many of the guns associated with heavy service weapons designed for combat. The source of internal combustion in a firearm is its chamber. But unlike the cylinder of an engine that is nested inside the engine, the chamber of a firearm is disassociated from the rest of the gun. During internal ballistics of a fired cartridge, the flame is projected forward into the barrel. The chamber on the other hand, being generally the widest and/or thinnest part of a barrel, cools first. Not only is it a good heat sink, everything else; the receiver, the bolt steel, frame, and slide, even the stock and grip, dissipate heat. The barrel itself, giving off heat, is effectively radiating destructive temperatures to the atmosphere not unlike a steam radiator, and the larger the barrel mass, the more efficient it is at doing this. The effect of cooling to the larger surfaces of cold metal works in the same way that a plumber lays a damp rag over a valve to protect the nylon seats inside while he is applying extreme soldering heat to a union two inches away, or in the same manner that this computer's CPU is being cooled by fins and a fan... much like the H-D engine is. The chamber's size in proportion to the rest of the barrel is comparatively small in handguns, and miniscule in many rifles. Now, what about the destructiveness of this heat from combustion? There are two types of guns in this regard... those that self-destruct due to internal combustion, and those that don't. It is only rifles that produce high pressures above 40,000 psi that begin to impose sufficient heat, combined with pressure and if not permitted to cool properly during firing, that the metal directly in front of the chamber breaks down metallurgically over time. So, in the extreme, my M-60 machine gun would do this, if fired for too long a time, and would require a barrel change. On the other end of the extreme, and after 2,500 rounds over ten years, my Sako 270 Winchester throat began to fail. To what degree? I seated the bullets less deeply by .025" within the case in order to be near the rifling leade. But it was still accurate. If it had been a .30-06 with less chamber pressure, or even better, a 7mm X 57 Mauser, nothing would have happened yet. A prairie dog shooter, shooting his gun too frantically and without allowing it to cool, can chew a barrel of his .22-250 up in several outings. The guy who shoots 30 round mags, one after another, with his AR-15 can do likewise, perhaps mitigated for a time with a chrome-lined barrel. HOWEVER, not one whit of this is associated with any amount of lubrication, and it cannot be mitigated by oil in any part of the gun. The barrel lives or dies, at a rate corresponding to its caliber and rate of fire. Period. Does the barrel heat get into the rest of the gun's inner workings? Well, remember that it is only the immediate portion forward of the chamber that begins to flake after thousands of rounds or from firing a few too quickly. It generally is less than an inch or so in sporter guns, though in continuous-feed belted machine guns it can be half its length. The barrel beyond that, which gets really hot during firing, remains pristine, having acted like a radiator, dissipating heat. The largest part of a barrel remains so good and unaffected that many bench rest shooters simply cut off an inch of the chambers of their guns and re-thread and chamber them, until the barrel is too short to qualify in their events. However, at no point does a receiver or frame ever reach any destructive sub-molten heat level. You wouldn't be, you COULDN'T be holding it, or even within feet of it. The highest possible heat that a receiver can be handled would be on the order or 140 degrees F, which is almost 1,000 degrees below aluminum's melting point and 2,500 degrees below steel's. To reach even 140 degrees, the entire barrel would have to be many times hotter, close to it's molten point. Nobody shoots melting barrels. Even a machine gun cannot produce heat that will destroy a receiver. When the barrel was toasted, the receiver was still like new. Only one glove was needed, to remove the barrel. As for lubrication, we never applied more than a few drops of light oil to the sliding parts of machine gun bolt, and there was no reason to apply it to anything else, lest it turn to caked mud before we got a mile down a dirt road riding on the hood of our M151A1 jeeps. We wiped a light coat of oil on exposed surfaces, and wiped it off. That was good for my M-16, and M-60, and it's more than sufficient for my personal guns, and yours. Can you destroy a gun with friction? No. At least, not a well-made firearm. If you know anyone who can fire a gun so fast and long that they can reduce good, hardened gun steel to a perishable state, let me know, and I'll publish a warning about that brand. Firearm lubrication has one function only. It's to break the surface tension of the two interacting parts, which is accomplished with the single drop of simple oil that comes in a gun oil bottle filled with medium grade mineral oil, as I have done all my life. I hope this explanation helps.
@jimskelton1355
@jimskelton1355 9 жыл бұрын
GunBlue490 Thanks for that detailed explanation. In truth, I can become too verbose when writing and go off down roads never meant to be traveled. How I veered onto the Harley thing is anyones guess. What I wanted to express, and all I wanted to express, is my conviction that synthetic lubes work better than petro ones no matter what the application. I still believe that unless it can be proven to me with lab tests that I am incorrect.Your depth of knowledge is astounding. I'll be following your work from now on and look forward to whatever you next post up. I'd love to hear your take on the 22TCM round and the 1911's from Rock Island Armory (division of Armscor) that are purpose built to fire them. Disclosure: Yep, I own one of the full size, single stack, 22TCM / 9mm, tactical versions of these pistols. That 22TCM is a HOOT to shoot and the ballistics are off the charts!
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 9 жыл бұрын
Jim Skelton The .223 Remington/5.56x40 NATO case has had countless wildcat design adaptations over the years; necking up, down, shortened, for just as many reasons, from silhouette shooting to varminting, and from rifles to handguns. It was itself a modified .222 Remington Magnum, which was itself, back in the 60's, a respectable step up from its daddy, and the King of them all, the venerable .222 Remington, which has so unfortunately been forgotten, owing to the vast number of .223's and 5.56 NATOs produced in the world. It's an exceptionally good base from which to work, if one desires to play with brass, as one can't possibly miss. No cartridge based on it has ever been less than accurate, given the correct sizing of barrel to powder ratio. The very first shortened version, ideally suited for a 10" barrel, was Remington's own proprietary .221 Fireball, introduced with their XP-100 bolt action pistol, based on the 600 Remington rifle action. This commercial shortening of cartridge to match yet a shorter 1911 barrel seems to have taken a longer time than one would have expected! Others have played with similar wildcats, but the great problem has always been the need for handloaders to make their own custom wildcat brass for their custom wildcat guns. Cartridge acceptance and success runs a good deal less than restaurant success. It's a huge leap of faith and a monstrous financial risk for any company to put money down on a new cartridge offering, especially when it's tied to a gun, and it's an even greater risk to buy what might very well be a maverick gun that goes the way of the Dodo. In particular, bottle-necked .22 wildcats have had a very dismal acceptance, and have stranded many owners with fine guns for which they could get no ammo. Having said that, Armscor may have hit on something here, and it may catch fire. But having said that, I won't be putting my money down until it has been a Top Ten seller for ten years. How about the round? Excellent. Ballistics are in the varmint hunting category at close to 2,100, exactly what I'd expect from that combination, though the bullet Armscor is using is, I suspect from its terminal performance, a heavier jacketed bullet than one would find on the shelves. If that is so, that's good from a performance standpoint, but bad from an availability one. I could be wrong. Often, varmint bullets react like heavier hunting bullets at velocities lower than their design parameters, so it could simply be a standard 40 grain .224 bullet. In terms of practicality, I'm not so sure it has the potential to rise above the curiosity class. It's very light 7 pound recoil spring means that my wife would be able to draw the slide back... something she cannot do with my 1911 45 ACP. But having said that, it's not exactly the size pistol that she'd have the least inclination to pack in her handbag. Or elsewhere. So, it's not a ladies gun. The 17 + 1 capacity is interesting, but whatever does one need to tote a double wide gun on one's belt when it boasts near rifle effectiveness? I'd welcome a reduction in size of my carry 1911, not an increase. A flat mag standard 1911 width version would be more appealing to me. It's flat shooting, but that has never been a criteria for combat handguns. Great range potential in a handgun has very limited practical application, especially when the accuracy doesn't meet the demands that a long shot requires. Reports of about 2-3 inches at 25 yards is standard 25 yard 1911 accuracy, but 8 to 12 MOA will incite a lot of yawning for the 150 yard crowd, where the ballistics carry it. Bottle-neck pistol cartridges, notably the .357 Sig, are found to be prone to bullet setback in the case after repeated cycling from a magazine, at which point the case neck completely loses its grip and the bullet drops in, dangerously raising pressures. Most 1911s are best allowed to slap home with a new round to assure that the slide is in battery, which is not conducive to mitigating this problem. As to the gun itself, Armscor makes a very decent gun, though quite far down the ladder in terms of fit and finish compared to say, a Colt or Ruger 1911, and more closely akin to a British WWII Webley, so it won't attract whistles from the tenth floor. Over the years, there have been many niche guns, aimed at a particular market, and I'd call this a "deep niche" gun, with a market that Armscor has apparently identified, which may be larger than I'm aware of. The fact that you're enjoying it means they discovered you. ;-)
@newcars11
@newcars11 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have been cleaning rifle barrels for fifty years and I'm learning from you.
@darkoleljak732
@darkoleljak732 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge! Great videos! Greatings from Croatia.
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching from your beautiful country!
@josef351cleveland
@josef351cleveland 9 жыл бұрын
+GunBlue490 I had I smile when I read your message yeah that's what I meant cosmoline. Thanks for the quick reply you might have just saved my rifle I had just got back from the store with the odorless minerals. Unfortunately it was an idea originally brought to me through a KZfaq video. Glad you take the time to make these informative and sometimes gun saving videos. Thanks +GunBlue490
@jonathanmcgowan7746
@jonathanmcgowan7746 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the education. I used mineral spirits to clean my rifles the last time I went to the range. I have to say, I have not seen the bores as clean as this time using the mineral spirits.
@dansaver8247
@dansaver8247 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific show, again. Thank you.
@ronniebaughman1666
@ronniebaughman1666 3 жыл бұрын
Hoppe's # 9 is the best I have tried some of these chemical type cleansers that you pull through your barrel and didn't like them it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks thanks for sharing your expertise. The same with what they have done with scopes i like just regular duplex style cross hairs for hunting.
@cinaetscott8340
@cinaetscott8340 7 жыл бұрын
Hoppe's smells like coming home from hunting quail and pheasant with my dad through the years.
@jc.1191
@jc.1191 3 жыл бұрын
My dad used WD-40. Lol
@dougrogers835
@dougrogers835 Жыл бұрын
I had to chuckle when he talked about flammable solvents. My uncle told stories about refinishing wood floors and the fireball that came roaring down the hallway at them from the gas boiler or water heater LOL
@BFD378
@BFD378 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a bottle of hoppe's #9 when I bought my deer rifle in '96. Still have them both.
@danceshadowmoon1
@danceshadowmoon1 9 жыл бұрын
So informative! Well done! I love this video!
@6h471
@6h471 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice. I had to laugh at myself remembering the first bore solvent I ever bought in the late 1960s. It came in a rectangular metal GI quart can painted OD green with yellow lettering labeling it rifle bore solvent, cost probably $1 from the local surplus store. What was inside was a very dark liquid reminiscent of the old types of immersion type carburetor cleaner that are no longer sold. That stuff would take the hide right off you, and stunk to high heaven! I think I used it once and mixed the rest of it with drain oil and disposed of it.
@michaelfortney7510
@michaelfortney7510 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent information. I think you are bringing a lot of common sense to a topic that has a thousand different opinions. Great video. Im done buying high end super lubes and cleaners with harsh ammonia. Thank You. Keep them coming
@danhiggins5393
@danhiggins5393 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds very much like someone describing a car engine cylinder and piston relationship. You don’t want to wash a cylinder every time the piston cycles, nor do you want to leave too much residue. This is a helpful video.
@travispowell2471
@travispowell2471 9 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot.. This man really knows his stuff..
@toddcoon6734
@toddcoon6734 2 жыл бұрын
Very much appreciate the advice particularly as to purported "copper fouling" in a bore. I had little inclination to use any ammonia-based solvents and this puts my mind at rest. A basic cleaning with Hoppes or Ballistol followed by a bore snake or some patches would appear to be sufficient - at least for a Ruger 10 22!
@reveriesimplex648
@reveriesimplex648 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Hoppes contains ammonia?
@elingeniero9117
@elingeniero9117 2 жыл бұрын
@@reveriesimplex648 That is why the patches until they come out dry and clean.
@MrT13
@MrT13 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% about not actually removing all the copper. I use a borescope and essentially shoot for removing 100% of carbon but only 25-33% per say of copper. I leave some in. Keeps groups tighter after cleaning and saves having to re copper the barrel with 20-30 rounds.
@ltcnickbarr
@ltcnickbarr 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice which I learned first hand in the Army.
@frame5280
@frame5280 10 жыл бұрын
Just ran on to this while searching topics about solvents and cleaners and trying to affirm that using "Ed's Red" mix and/or Hoppe's for many years is still effective enough or should I be going "modern"?? Nope, you have affirmed that what has worked still works! AND your info about bore conditioning and care affirms what I have also "assumed" for many years. Well done! Looking forward to more of your videos. I've been lubricating and preserving with a mix of synthetic motor oil & ATF at 50/50. What do you think of "Ed's Red" and my lube mix??? THANKS!!!!
@erikgranberg2722
@erikgranberg2722 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the lesson. Very good video.
@jacoklopper4772
@jacoklopper4772 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information and tips!
@depotec
@depotec 9 жыл бұрын
What about Sig Sauer pistols? They have alloy frames and stainless slides. The company recommends using grease on the rails to prevent wearing of the alloy frame rail. I've seen old Sigs with loose slides and worn frame rails that I assume are the result of not using lubricant. I'd appreciate your opinion on Sigs recommendation for maintaining their pistols. Thanks.
@loboohio
@loboohio 10 жыл бұрын
Great video. Learned some new things but also confirmed some long held suspicions. Thank you.
@Eman3037
@Eman3037 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation on gun cleaning.....A+
@hondasaurusrex6998
@hondasaurusrex6998 6 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciated the shared knowledge. Long live Hoppe's.
@josecanisales3491
@josecanisales3491 4 жыл бұрын
When my kids were little, they used to love the smell of Hoppe's #9.
@64gunner1
@64gunner1 10 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. Excellent advice for all. Good video.
@Hermansu5153
@Hermansu5153 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, I have a S&W mod 29-2 in nickel plate, have herd all the warnings not to use certain solvents that would damage the copper base used before the nickel application. what is your recommendation for cleaning and care of nickel guns?
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 2 жыл бұрын
I am a former Class A rated electroplater, quite familiar with bright, soft, and electroless nickel plating and other precious metals, too, including gold, silver, rhodium, and cadmium. Yes, copper is indeed flash plated onto the base metal, which is a universal bonding metal for all other plating, as one uses paint primers to for paint adhesion. We commonly stripped plating that we had performed for various reasons, and used a number of acids, combined with tumbling, to remove plating. Though we did not use ammonia, there being many more ideally suited to the task, it does indeed attack copper. The nickel itself is resistant to most chemicals, but the problem lies with areas vulnerable to being thinly plated, such as sharp edges, as with the crown edge of the throat, cylinder edges, etc. Plating is deposited by electrolysis, as metals in solution travel from the anode to the cathode (the item). Metals deposit uniformly only when the electrons bombard at a 90 degree angle to a flat surface and somewhat less uniformly to rounded parts. Any parts that are off perpendicular to the anode positions at the side of the tank receive less of a bombardment, not much different than our sun's rays when it is low in the sky, and those areas in the "shade" receive nothing. Think of how spray paint deposits on objects unless the nozzle is directed to each surface. I have not seen the manner by which handguns are suspended in nickel salt tanks, but it's almost assuredly from copper wires and plating hooks hung on a reciprocating cathode bar, just as we precision plated coaxial cable connectors. Plating is vulnerable at any number of those thinner locations on the complex surfaces of a handgun, and though the plating is very durable, it should be treated with regard to that vulnerability. As with any gun regardless of type, whether it has plating or not, I recommend the use of plain mineral spirits or paint thinner to clean your gun. Do not use any gun solvent that may contain any amount of ammonia. As a caution, most common gun solvents, including Hoppe's, contain ammonia in various strengths for the purpose of removing copper, and I would avoid them on a plated gun.
@erikdale9145
@erikdale9145 6 жыл бұрын
22 thumbs down?! Clearly it wasn't the 45second lazy way to clean and ad to buy their amazing products. Generation lost, thanks as always sir for sharing
@joesphkucera6847
@joesphkucera6847 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos been going through a lot of them again what about the furniture on rifles what do we put on them ? Because of you I look at my wife’s furniture polishes and it seems like they are mineral oil base what do you recommend
@worddunlap
@worddunlap 7 жыл бұрын
also people use lacquer thinner and acetone in home made or improvised gun cleaning solvent. I can't think of more hazardous materials to be in a confined space with. C3H6O(l) + 4O2(g) -> 3CO2(g) + 3H2O(g)
@robsmith8304
@robsmith8304 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Var-sol or paint thinner that's non-volatile to remove the gunky grease some arms and parts are packed in?
@williamcousins3079
@williamcousins3079 2 жыл бұрын
This gentleman is extremely knowledgeable!
@wardroland270
@wardroland270 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Great channel. Thanks.
@earlyetman5588
@earlyetman5588 3 жыл бұрын
I love listening to you!
@rickmansberger4136
@rickmansberger4136 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, In your other shotgun cleaning video you highlight basic mineral spirits. Then you introduced paint thinner, a green offering. Is the paint thinner a replacement for mineral spirits? Or should we use both? Thank you again for your time, efforts, and sharing your never ending knowledge of all things firearms. God bless you and your family and hello to Benny. Respectively yours, Rick Mansberger East Lansing MI
@GunBlue490
@GunBlue490 6 жыл бұрын
Rick Mansberger Both are essentially the same invention called Stoddard solvent. Paint thinner is considered a slighly more refined version, which is of interest to painters, but has no relevance to their basic formulation that will clean and degrease equally well. Paint thinner traditionally says mineral spirits on the bottle, and vice versa. Use whichever you prefer. I like the new green stuff for all the reasons I stated; smells less, non volatile, and I suspect it works possibly even more swiftly than the former stuff, from my non-critical evaluation.
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