Gun Gripes Episode 66: The Caliber Debate

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@teaempire7929
@teaempire7929 7 жыл бұрын
"Like blowing out a birthday candle-they didn't even whimper."
@jamesavery6671
@jamesavery6671 5 жыл бұрын
Should make a t shirt with that quote
@iamthelizardking6239
@iamthelizardking6239 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not a gun snob in anyway but I have to admit my .357 gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside opposed to other rounds lol
@jurajokasa834
@jurajokasa834 4 жыл бұрын
@@iamthelizardking6239 .357 mag is old old cartridge but damn good :) you load it with some nice modern powder and some nice bullets you can crank it like cannon
@sean0181
@sean0181 4 жыл бұрын
@@iamthelizardking6239 Same here .Gotta use the right tool for the job.
@sbentsen2714
@sbentsen2714 4 жыл бұрын
Tea & Empire epic statement
@masterofce
@masterofce 8 жыл бұрын
Its just not the same without Barry,,,,,,,RIP Brother.!!
@masterofce
@masterofce 8 жыл бұрын
+ComeGetSome5297 Yes,,,,,he passed away a year or 2 ago,,,,very sad - great guy.!
@knlazar08
@knlazar08 8 жыл бұрын
+ComeGetSome5297 It was a heart attack during a divorce. Very sad. Another great guy brought down by a female. Don't take that to heart, I don't know anything about it, other than what I just posted. I just know how hard and stressful divorces are, and am just projecting my own experiences.
@Mr0952animefreak
@Mr0952animefreak 8 жыл бұрын
+Rob Graham MGTOW preach it
@marlonread4746
@marlonread4746 8 жыл бұрын
Miss the old man!
@kevintucker2549
@kevintucker2549 8 жыл бұрын
No its not.
@aaronbelden8894
@aaronbelden8894 5 жыл бұрын
In the famous words of Barry...”it’s hard to surround a feller who’s holding on to a barking .38”
@TheRealSwampOperator
@TheRealSwampOperator Жыл бұрын
Don't forget - " a 22 will kill any man on this planet tomorrow"
@thebethlehem2852
@thebethlehem2852 Жыл бұрын
Also “If you have to say I have children and what if they get to the gun, you’re not responsible enough to have a kid or a firearm!”-RIP Mr Barry A real Legend 🇺🇸
@capricornman89
@capricornman89 Жыл бұрын
@@thebethlehem2852 Facts!! Barry was preaching the gospel 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@aakashk530
@aakashk530 11 ай бұрын
@@capricornman89wisdom that you can’t buy, only earn 👍
@Glock-1
@Glock-1 7 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Barry you will be missed, I always looked forward to his opinion!
@beentheredoneization
@beentheredoneization 7 жыл бұрын
That's for sure - he was the kind of guy that I would have loved to sit down with, have a few brewskies and talk guns -
@9Lomm
@9Lomm 7 жыл бұрын
when did this happen?
@Gitfidlpickr
@Gitfidlpickr 7 жыл бұрын
EZ to reload
@goinhot9133
@goinhot9133 4 жыл бұрын
Same, He was a great man
@chrisnorris9473
@chrisnorris9473 3 жыл бұрын
40u
@dmgthree6051
@dmgthree6051 5 жыл бұрын
I gotta agree with ol Barry on this one 357 is still the ass kicker it was years ago ! We miss you Barry ! I still come on here to listen to Barry give good advice from beyond the grave ! I’m glad that he will always live on through these videos! God bless
@GhostKill88
@GhostKill88 Жыл бұрын
As do I. I love coming around to hear him. I wish I would have gotten to meet him.
@ghostwriter1415
@ghostwriter1415 8 ай бұрын
@@GhostKill88 I can't even legally own a gun, but I come here for Barry, and his avuncular spirit! It's always good to see him! L/R
@rodneymoore7270
@rodneymoore7270 3 ай бұрын
@@ghostwriter1415 In Texas some convicted felons can keep a gun in their homes for self defense after a certain amount of time after release. That included a former neighbor and good friend.
@ryangalloway8507
@ryangalloway8507 8 жыл бұрын
the best caliber is the one you shoot the most accurately
@southernsimplicity213
@southernsimplicity213 8 жыл бұрын
I fully agree a shot in someone is always better than a shot in the wall
@filoIII
@filoIII 8 жыл бұрын
A .22 in the hand is worth 2 .45s in the safe.
@DoseOfReality308
@DoseOfReality308 7 жыл бұрын
no it means you should grow a pair and train more you dumbass
@TrashPanda2801
@TrashPanda2801 7 жыл бұрын
Stonewall Jackson there is an amount of common sense you could use when reading his comment dumbass. No shit A fucking .22LR is easier to shoot but be reasonable here, obviously it's not going to stop somebody in one or two or even three or even more than that.
@46ace
@46ace 7 жыл бұрын
Actually if you look at the statistics ALL the common pistol defense calibers took more than one shot to stop. So two .380's , 2 .22lr., 2 9mm's or 2 .45's what difference does it make? People shoot until the threat is "neutralized". One caution about shooting incident statistics: Of course Each shooting situation is UTTERLY, completely (randomly) UNIQUE! Here's some things that make each situation different: I.E. How big was the assailant? How motivated or drugged up? How much fat vs muscle? where did the bullet enter? What angle did it travel? What organs did it hit?What was the assailants blood pressure? How hydrated was the assailant? All these things affect the outcome of the shooting! The least of which is:"was the bullet .357" in diameter or .40" (.043" difference) in diameter... Check it out yourself; this one is pretty good: www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
@mattpeacock5208
@mattpeacock5208 3 жыл бұрын
The most effective self defense round is the one you've trained with enough to be effective as a shooter
@TheMauser98a
@TheMauser98a 2 жыл бұрын
Very true statement
@larrywilson1783
@larrywilson1783 Жыл бұрын
3 Words...Practice, Practice, Practice!
@jerdog333
@jerdog333 Жыл бұрын
2:35 How Eric holds it together when Barry says "they're instant dead with a 357 magnum.". Haha. 🤣. R.I.P Barry. Every guntuber today owes something to Barry.
@TXPine
@TXPine 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I rewatch this the look on Eric's face when Barry is talking about the .357 makes me crack up.
@BPoweredLove
@BPoweredLove 2 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@antonioangeconeb3196
@antonioangeconeb3196 2 жыл бұрын
@Pollo Frito Lazy, didn’t you watch the video
@BPoweredLove
@BPoweredLove 2 жыл бұрын
@@antonioangeconeb3196 Yeah, ret ard. What's that got to do with noting a timestamp so we know what look the OP is talking about? Put the pipe down, kid.
@ProbInsane
@ProbInsane 2 жыл бұрын
"it was like blowing out a candle, INSTANT DEATH." I laughed with Eric on that one.
@icu_corey_rn_903
@icu_corey_rn_903 5 жыл бұрын
I think I I speak for a lot of gun owners we all buy a weapon or ammunition and hope we never have to use it in a defensive situation
@atleastimtrying5391
@atleastimtrying5391 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying a lot and Not all owners I’m personally really excited to kill a dumb retard that thinks it’s a good idea to break into my house
@BrEeDiNgxRePs
@BrEeDiNgxRePs 8 жыл бұрын
.38 special and .357 magnum are my favorites
@billybobjoe6496
@billybobjoe6496 4 жыл бұрын
Ironically I can shoot those faster and more accurate than a 22 at a longer distance
@thatguy22441
@thatguy22441 3 жыл бұрын
.357 is a damn good round. My now ex-wife insisted on a GP100 for her defense gun when we were married. I suggested she carry a minimum of a 9mm with at least a 10-round capacity but she insisted on a .357 Magnum. She just likes revolvers better.
@intj2948
@intj2948 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Most of the time I’ve invested the range has been with these two cartridges. It’s what I prefer.
@LocsNLoadFirearmReviews
@LocsNLoadFirearmReviews 8 жыл бұрын
i say shot placement is the best stopping power
@joelyon4250
@joelyon4250 8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Lyles Same Here
@thebusterdog6358
@thebusterdog6358 5 жыл бұрын
Practice, practice, practice.
@brianpartlow5530
@brianpartlow5530 5 жыл бұрын
Right! A 22 put in the melon is a show stopper.
@lproctor55
@lproctor55 5 жыл бұрын
That's where it's at. If you cant put the bullet in the right place, caliber is a moot point.
@mr.awaker5917
@mr.awaker5917 5 жыл бұрын
Enough rounds in the right place will definitely stop anyone
@spencersmith7583
@spencersmith7583 10 жыл бұрын
Any caliber will work on a sane person, problem is some people are crazy and on drugs. But if someone was shooting even a .22LR at me I would get the hell out of the way.
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 2 жыл бұрын
Same here but criminals aren’t in the same mindset. Adrenaline takes over
@brianm6924
@brianm6924 Жыл бұрын
@hey it's pete Foolish
@invisiblerevolution
@invisiblerevolution 10 жыл бұрын
"At the end of the day...getting shot is getting shot." LoL So TRUE!
@sionsoschwalts2762
@sionsoschwalts2762 6 жыл бұрын
Ya have a choice.Ya gonna get shot. Do ya wanna be blown away (20mm, .700ne, .50bmg, .500mag) or do yez wanna be able to cry about it later (.32, .25, .22, .17).
@65stang98
@65stang98 Жыл бұрын
Barry will forever live on in these videos. Loved that guy growing up he was one of the guys like you and hickock45 who taught a young kid a lot about guns and history. Thanks
@davidkelly6086
@davidkelly6086 4 жыл бұрын
.45-70, the only government I trust!
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I like that
@MrWhite-ub4wx
@MrWhite-ub4wx 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like tattoos but is I did I would get this across my forehead.
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWhite-ub4wx Did you have a stroke? Are you ok?
@thatguy22441
@thatguy22441 3 жыл бұрын
45-70 is a hell of a good round. I have an old 1873 Trapdoor Springfield that fires black powder rounds and I love it. I can't decide whether I want to take that or my new AR out for opening day of deer season this year. I'd love to get a lever action 45-70 and load up some rounds comparable to an elephant rifle.
@kamron_thurmond
@kamron_thurmond 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to steal that.
@happyoutinthewoods
@happyoutinthewoods 7 жыл бұрын
I carry a 40, but my favorite caliber is always going to be whatever the one I have on me when I need it.
@daggerrussiardvelasquez5641
@daggerrussiardvelasquez5641 7 жыл бұрын
"you tell a .45 man that, and he'll think you're flyin' " - Barry. lol
@rdz875
@rdz875 2 жыл бұрын
He said lyen…neither here nor there though this was 4 years ago after all
@bhizzlehendershizzle
@bhizzlehendershizzle 9 жыл бұрын
S&W .40 is a beautiful round
@oranguman8606
@oranguman8606 3 жыл бұрын
ok, black person
@mattshepherd8586
@mattshepherd8586 7 жыл бұрын
Man, Eric, that shit about your combat experience was touching, I've watched dozens of your videos and I know this one is old but I couldn't help but think that guys like you who move on after combat and have a good spirit are the salt of the earth. I know everyone says it but thanks for keeping us safe and maintaining a good positive afterwards, you're more of a man than me.
@MikeDesertHunterHale
@MikeDesertHunterHale 10 жыл бұрын
I'm 65yrs old, I've reloaded since 1965, from 22-250 to 300 Weatherby, from 380acp to 44mag, and everything in between... The study he talked about is the truth... I've shot and reloaded them all and seen the damage they cause. I shoot a 40S&W 180gr, near max. It's a joy to shoot in the Beretta 96, I've found my pistol.... In a revolver, I love the 357mag in 125gr with a 6" 6shot Smith, Taurus, etc....
@speedgo41
@speedgo41 7 жыл бұрын
When I was a young kid shooting at a range for the first time, our range master told all the kids there to always respect a firearm regardless of caliber. He brought out a .45 and a .22 to use as examples, and asked the group which of the guns would "kill you more". Obviously the group of kids all decided that it would have to be the .45 that would kill you more, but he corrected us in explaining that a .22 will still kill you. He said that dead is dead and that the size of the hole wouldn't matter at that point. Needless to say we all respected our little .22 rifles a bit more after that. So anyone that goes around saying a 9mm isn't deadly is an idiot. All that matters is having a straight shooting and reliable gun that you're personally comfortable with and can use effectively.
@gitgeezer
@gitgeezer 6 жыл бұрын
I got the exact same lesson from my Boy Scout NRA instructor!
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 2 жыл бұрын
Except the question he asked wasn’t what you gave an answer to. He didn’t ask if the 22 would kill. You said he asked which one would kill you more. A 45 will kill you now, a 22 will kill you tomorrow or even longer.
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 2 жыл бұрын
Not saying I would want to take a shot from a 22 but just saying
@justinbushman277
@justinbushman277 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct!! Well said!
@joogullae3456
@joogullae3456 10 ай бұрын
I would much rather get shot a couple times from a 22 than take one hit from a 45
@keatonminter3306
@keatonminter3306 7 жыл бұрын
9mm for the hoods, 10mm for the woods 😎✌
@Montana_lifestyle
@Montana_lifestyle 7 жыл бұрын
KeeKee Killa lol that's ausome! people need to stop testing there bullets on ballistic gel and go out into the woods and hunt shit to find out what thier gun can and can't do. I know that everything I shoot with my 9mm takes more than one shot to kill and everything I shoot with my 45 dies instantly with one shot!
@tikkidaddy
@tikkidaddy 7 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in your results for 9mm HST. And you are right. SHOOT A DAMN HOG. Then tell me how good your pistol is!
@deadsh0t613
@deadsh0t613 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Smith...That was beautiful😢...Bless You Homie
@lilrugah3433
@lilrugah3433 6 жыл бұрын
hahahah best comment ive seen in a while except for my own
@ThaGVPSon
@ThaGVPSon 5 жыл бұрын
Im gonna test my cz75 PCR on east texas wild boars
@bryanduchane2371
@bryanduchane2371 Жыл бұрын
Eric: Wish you would make a playlist for all your fun gripes with Barry. I love his common sense about all things firearms!!!
@albitcapinigro1107
@albitcapinigro1107 10 жыл бұрын
Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.
@cowboycarpenter8713
@cowboycarpenter8713 10 жыл бұрын
A 22 in the head is better than a 45 in a roll of fat.
@albitcapinigro1107
@albitcapinigro1107 10 жыл бұрын
COWBOY CARPENTER Sir, you couldn't be more correct.
@wmf2087
@wmf2087 10 жыл бұрын
Shot placement is indeed important, but the reality of critical self defense shooting is that you are making a mistake to rely on accuracy. So a less than lethal shot from a .40 is more likely to stop the aggressive action than the same shot from a.380. So unless you're a sniper, or you know some Jedi mind control tricks to make the bad guy hold still while you shoot him, think about ballistics (stopping power) instead of just accuracy.
@albitcapinigro1107
@albitcapinigro1107 10 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree.
@AlexJonesMessiah
@AlexJonesMessiah 10 жыл бұрын
45 45 45
@BoomDiggety
@BoomDiggety 10 жыл бұрын
I'd call the .40 S&W (my personal favorite) a nice compromise round between a 9mm and a .45ACP, but I don't feel like I'm losing anything. It's speedier than a .45ACP but heavier than a 9mm. It penetrates very well like a 9mm but I can carry more rounds than I can in my 1911. If there is a drawback, it's that a .40 S&W in a polymer pistol is a little too snappy for some to feel comfortable shooting where a 9mm or even a full steel 1911 is going to be a bit smoother. Just my two cents.
@chrisklitou7573
@chrisklitou7573 3 жыл бұрын
40 cal is more powerful than a 45acp
@hobbyhermit66
@hobbyhermit66 2 жыл бұрын
Bought my wife a .380, thinking it would be easier to handle for her, less recoil and all. It feels more violent than my .40 . Maybe because i didn't expect it, don't know.
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 2 жыл бұрын
@@hobbyhermit66 was it really small and had a polymer lower? My full size 5” barrel 1911 in 45 is my smoothest shooting gun recoil wise. I can hit steel with it from decent ranges and my CZ75 compact steel frame in 9mm is a really close second but then my smith and Wesson shield M&P 9 is pretty snappy cause it’s so light. Personally I would rather EDC a slightly heavier gun that I can shoot better with so the CZ75 compact is it.
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 2 жыл бұрын
@@hobbyhermit66 my brother had a little Sig 9mm and I wanted one but then I shot his and the recoil was obnoxious for what it was so I didn’t get one
@davidmcmurrian2405
@davidmcmurrian2405 2 жыл бұрын
Have to agree. The .40 S&W is my personal preference. A 9mm is to fast and a 45 ACP is not fast enough. Again personal experience personal preference. My carry is full frame sig P2022 in .40 S&W.
@sethdominickortiz
@sethdominickortiz 4 жыл бұрын
RiP Barry, just found out you passed, only been watching recently but much thanks to you info and opinions expressed. I've learned a bunch
@dross8580
@dross8580 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is when your in a high stress situation good shot placement is tougher than people think.
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 9 ай бұрын
Hallelujah! Besides that, the video was supposed to be about caliber selection. Talking about shot placement is CHANGING THE SUBJECT. It's a good subject, but it's a different one.
@pinkerton2964
@pinkerton2964 9 жыл бұрын
I love to watch these calibre debates 9mm vs .45. M16 vs Ak47. What I would say in conclusion is I live in the UK where you can't have any of them ( well you can but it's very difficult and pistols are almost unheard of unless they are long barrel with a tail sticking out the back) you certainly can't carry any of them and if you had a licence and even mentioned self defence they would take your licence/gun's and never let you have them again. If I had a choice of any of these calibres I would consider it an amazing freedom. Being able to buy and carry a .22 lr pistol as personal defence would be a victory for freedom. I would stop moaning about calibre and be happy you can own a gun. Saying that though I'm partial to that 357 magnum.
@Sprotdude17
@Sprotdude17 9 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for ya son, I got 99 problems and my rights ain't 1. Sorry, I had to. Lol
@seriousgameofficial
@seriousgameofficial 9 жыл бұрын
Sprotdude17 If you didn't know, it was a knee-jerk vote-gaining decision made after the Dunblane shootings in 1996. No doubt if it hadn't been election time, this "law" wouldn't have been passed. As somebody born in 95, I've never had the privilege of owning or shooting any handguns, like ever. The carrying aspect doesn't phase me, however the owning/ability to use at a range aspect does. I have to fly to a different fucking country just to have some fun with handguns/semi-auto anything above a .22lr Was lucky to use an L85/LSW in my time as an army trainee, but that's about it. The fact that there are American citizens (fools) actively trying to ban firearms they know nothing about sickens me as a law abiding brit who will never get the chance no matter how much I want to. Fuck anti-gun activists man...
@pinkerton2964
@pinkerton2964 9 жыл бұрын
I love target shooting have done quite a lot, but the aspect of owning and carrying a gun is freedom. When the government tells you that you can't own a gun you have a totalitarian state all other freedoms will soon be forfeit.
@tkarlmann
@tkarlmann 9 жыл бұрын
james grocott Well, you have your agenda -- go to your government and get the law changed. I would say the same exact thing to Australians.
@pinkerton2964
@pinkerton2964 9 жыл бұрын
I maybe the only person in the UK who believes that owning a gun or the right to self defence should be an inalienable right. We do not have a constitution formulated by some of the best minds in history. We have been subjects (subjugated) by a monarchy for many hundreds of years as such most Brits would not have the slightest notion of being free despite what you may have seen in Robin hood. Most Brits like to be ruled and seem incapable of becoming vexed over anything other than football.
@franksletz557
@franksletz557 8 жыл бұрын
I like how you bring up that being shot with any caliber will run your day. a 22lr isn't the best self defense round but it will do the job great video!
@kalijasin
@kalijasin 8 жыл бұрын
+Frank Sletz Grandmas love .22.
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014
@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 2 жыл бұрын
A 22 will kill you tmrw. Lol. If healthcare services shut down though being shot by a 22 in the torso would definitely equal a slow and painful death. Something like 95% of bad guys after they got shot the first time no matter what the caliber so if you do have a 22 that’s probably your best hope. Although I do have a 22 handgun that I could dump 40 rounds into someone really quick and that may stop someone in their tracks cause I can hit a cole can from like 150’ with it! Lol
@helios5868
@helios5868 7 жыл бұрын
If you aren't carrying a 50BMG handgun, you just don't have enough power.
@beentheredoneization
@beentheredoneization 7 жыл бұрын
lol -
@dropitlikeitshot815
@dropitlikeitshot815 7 жыл бұрын
helios5868 do you mean .50 Ae? Big difference between a .50Ae and a .50 bmg
@loveydovey4u
@loveydovey4u 7 жыл бұрын
500 mag
@illusiveman9512
@illusiveman9512 7 жыл бұрын
m8, I carry 50 megaton nuke so I have more power then your 50bmg
@grantrobinett6518
@grantrobinett6518 7 жыл бұрын
helios5868 yall are stupid. 700nitro FTW
@HKGunPlay
@HKGunPlay 9 ай бұрын
I have always loved 40 caliber. I have the hk usp compact 40 and have carried it for almost twenty years until recently when I finally retired it for something smaller in size and caliber. It’s still my home defense caliber. I use it and a g23 hidden around the house because I know the extra helps but never knew 96%. I know this video is older and 9mm has caught up but 96% back then for forty is probably better now.
@GunBigotHater
@GunBigotHater 10 жыл бұрын
"If it works, its good; you cannot argue with success." -George S. Patton If it makes deep holes in people, and can be judiciously applied, it will probably work.
@arbackhaus
@arbackhaus 8 жыл бұрын
I'll take my .357 S&W Revolver......any day of the week
@dmgthree6051
@dmgthree6051 5 жыл бұрын
I second that ! 357 on my nightstand all night every night !
@spin-cthrowshands5553
@spin-cthrowshands5553 5 жыл бұрын
.357 mag 6 shot revolver for the house. 9mm glock 26 12+1 for the road.
@bill-un5zg
@bill-un5zg 3 жыл бұрын
Spin-C Throws Hands 9mm hollow point is good enough.
@littleteethkeith
@littleteethkeith 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a ninja sword man myself. Seriously I think what ever caliber you can hit your target most successfully with is the one for you. Hitting a threat in the chest with a 32 ACP is a shit ton better than missing a threat with a 357 magnum.
@jg1007
@jg1007 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard a gunshot victim say he was glad he got hit with. 9mm instead of a .45
@mattpeacock5208
@mattpeacock5208 3 жыл бұрын
I aint never seen a deer bitch because the 30-30 I shot him with wasn't as powerful as a 30.06 either. They always were just dead.
@jlsgarage872
@jlsgarage872 3 жыл бұрын
I have. Look up demolition ranches 9mm vs 45 video
@jg1007
@jg1007 3 жыл бұрын
@@jlsgarage872 awesome. Let me know when you would be willing to test the theory on yourself. 🤣
@jlsgarage872
@jlsgarage872 3 жыл бұрын
@@jg1007 🤣
@bryanwhite3021
@bryanwhite3021 2 жыл бұрын
Idk I've worked on alot of people in surgery walking their entire intestines and checking the body. I've seen 22lr and 9mm where they made alot of holes, bullet by a lung, major vessels grazed, even people shot 3-27(obviously 27 was the 22) times. Never operated on a person shot with a 40 or 45. So I am sure the people once they are in the recovery room are glad they were shot with 9 instead of a 45, especially the major vessel ones, that extra size and power would have been all that was need to cut it and bleed out in minutes
@shotgunsmachetes8817
@shotgunsmachetes8817 9 жыл бұрын
i miss barry
@chuckugly
@chuckugly 7 жыл бұрын
The study would also implicitly take shot placement into account, the only real caveat I would have is that it's a study of effectiveness with reasonably proficient shooters. It's very possible some calibers might perform differently overall in a study with inexperienced or less proficient shooters. That's how statistics work.
@jakelee6546
@jakelee6546 7 жыл бұрын
if you get a 12 gauge you will never have any doubts on whether or not you have enough stopping power.
@ThaGVPSon
@ThaGVPSon 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer 30 rounds of .223 controlled expansion rounds
@alaskaimage395
@alaskaimage395 5 жыл бұрын
Then by capacity logic wouldn't a 50 capacity 5.7 ps90 be better?
@TonyMontana-js6hp
@TonyMontana-js6hp 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on the shot you're puttin through it .....birdshot just hurts ...the chance of it bein fatal is slim though
@hernandez1340
@hernandez1340 5 жыл бұрын
Jake Lee unless the guy yu shooting at is too far for that 😂😂😂
@poppys3728
@poppys3728 5 жыл бұрын
Jake - do you have a concealable 12 GA?
@jhaykus
@jhaykus 5 жыл бұрын
Just want to say that I love these videos. I'm kind of new to the gun world and have learned so much just by watching your channel. Thanks guys.
@meatbyproducts
@meatbyproducts 10 жыл бұрын
Best round is the one you have on you to protect yourself.
@tristanmyers897
@tristanmyers897 7 жыл бұрын
Meatbyproducts given it has enough power to actually penetrate and cause damage. a 2mm handgun won't do to much good
@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR
@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR 5 жыл бұрын
@@tristanmyers897 It might, if the bullet is moving at 10,000fps.
@tristanmyers897
@tristanmyers897 5 жыл бұрын
@@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR I'm not sure we're talking about the same cartridge. But if we are then all I have to say is that velocity isn't everything
@ptvmax54
@ptvmax54 8 жыл бұрын
Every caliber is lethal. End of question.
@FerrariTeddy
@FerrariTeddy 8 жыл бұрын
.001 cal subsonic...
@FerrariTeddy
@FerrariTeddy 8 жыл бұрын
+AIC SKS nah .00001×10^-100 cal going at the speed of light
@FerrariTeddy
@FerrariTeddy 8 жыл бұрын
+AIC SKS its basically a beam of light, much deadly much wow
@amjan
@amjan 6 жыл бұрын
But the questions is: Which caliber is more lethal? You idiot.
@BaconSlayer69
@BaconSlayer69 Жыл бұрын
30 caliber rifles are the minimum for killing and stopping someone in their tracks
@Shnozem
@Shnozem 5 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to believe this was 5 years ago, you guys are huge inspirations and very entertaining and informative
@aureliusva
@aureliusva 4 жыл бұрын
Been a few years since I binged gun gripes. Barry may be gone, but y'all are still a wealth of knowledge.
@namechange94
@namechange94 5 жыл бұрын
“like blowing out a birthday candle” 😂😂😂
@robertnelson298
@robertnelson298 8 жыл бұрын
Shot placement determines one shot stops.
@dancollins2568
@dancollins2568 4 жыл бұрын
and size of caliber makes up for error in shot placement. unless you do not panic in the least bit in a life or death situation, you're likely to miss exactly where you want to hit.
@BaconSlayer69
@BaconSlayer69 Жыл бұрын
Shot placement is irrelevant in stressful situations ur hunting ur defending yourself in a shitty situation
@PSNGamer
@PSNGamer 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching these older gun gripes!
@mastocytoma1
@mastocytoma1 8 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a gun shop in my town like Mosspawn. He really knows about his trade!
@nathanking1655
@nathanking1655 5 жыл бұрын
Rip Barry I'll always remember you and what I have learned from you over the years...😥😥♥️♥️♥️
@thomascasey5944
@thomascasey5944 8 жыл бұрын
.357 magnum in my Smith & Wesson 686. I carry it everyday. We happen to have open carry here in my state, so I don't have to try and hide it.
@TheOVprodigy
@TheOVprodigy 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas casey I wish I could carry my model 19 more often but it’s hot as shit in Arizona, and I’m not a fan of open carry. During the winter months I occasionally carry it though.
@jefferywiser415
@jefferywiser415 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheOVprodigy so you wish you could carry but you can but just don't want to? Kinda contradicting
@TheOVprodigy
@TheOVprodigy 4 жыл бұрын
I shouldn’t even respond, but I said I wish I could carry it more often, but it’s hot in Arizona, so 90% of the year I’m not wearing clothing that can conceal a k frame revolver.
@dontdoxmebro
@dontdoxmebro 4 жыл бұрын
We love you Barry! Your family must know you're still here with us everyone time someone watches these old videos. I like the idea of no penetration ammunition. It's harder for physician to completely remove from the body, and safe for everyone involved in or around the altercation.
@tristanmyers897
@tristanmyers897 7 жыл бұрын
it all comes down to sufficient power, shot placement, and being comfortable
@Booboobear-eo4es
@Booboobear-eo4es 2 жыл бұрын
In ancient times, the bow and arrow were pretty effective at killing someone. No "wound channels" or expanding arrow heads. This isn't because a projectile is particularly powerful, but because the human body is extremely fragile. Any arrow or bullet penetrating into a vital organ will usually disrupt its delicate biomechanics (blood flow, nerve transmission, etc). The real question is where the projectile hits and what kind of damage it does.
@jimmypavone3231
@jimmypavone3231 10 ай бұрын
Actually an arrow is much more lethal than a bullet. The whole arrow is like 500 grains it it typically will pass right through the deer or target. Have you seen the hunting tips with a 1" cross of razor blades??? What bullet expands THAT much?
@markbroad119
@markbroad119 3 жыл бұрын
The best caliber of the one you have when you need it. 22lr if needed. Will also stop someone. Plus easier to stay on target than 45 long colt
@roberthoward1687
@roberthoward1687 7 жыл бұрын
I just recently found the video about Barry's passing. I've been watching for a while and I know it;s been a while, but I still want to convey my deepest condolences to you and his family. From this old jarhead rest well Barry. Semper Fi.
@benders235
@benders235 5 жыл бұрын
I carry .357 sig and it is a beast, plus with a barrel swap you can still shoot .40 s&w.
@jdubjsjs613
@jdubjsjs613 5 жыл бұрын
I love watching true crime shows, almost every time the person is killed by a 22
@elche1976
@elche1976 3 жыл бұрын
Because it's cheap to obtain. And shot placement is easier with less recoil. Doctors have said that because the entry wound is small and the rounds many times ricochet around, puncturing vital organs.... And they have no idea where to sew up the internal bleeding. Usually it won't incapacitate them, but rather take them out of the fight, and later on is when they end up dying.
@bfx20018f
@bfx20018f 9 жыл бұрын
Everybody! Make your own choice - you'll always be satisfied.
@wolfganghammersmith9798
@wolfganghammersmith9798 4 жыл бұрын
Again, superb information well-presented from credible upstanding individuals. Well done.
@awesomeguy7778
@awesomeguy7778 9 жыл бұрын
cant get enough of you guys and your channel my favorite gun channel
@Emil-ul4kb
@Emil-ul4kb 7 жыл бұрын
I have two .32 acp pistols and use them for carry and home defense. They are dependable and accurate. Don't forget James Bond used one.
@markedman3990
@markedman3990 5 жыл бұрын
Emil...i am with you! .32 can make for a good defensive handgun. It's a throwback to another time. It was a very popular caliber. People are still made of the same flesh, bone, and blood. If it was ok then, why not today?
@mizzoupatriot8814
@mizzoupatriot8814 2 жыл бұрын
@@markedman3990 People are alot fatter now days lol...More blubber for that 32acp to get through lmao.
@josephbroach1447
@josephbroach1447 5 жыл бұрын
I know the video was to make me feel comfortable with carrying my 9mm but Barry made me want to go out and pick up a 357 today. lol
@keyworksales6241
@keyworksales6241 4 жыл бұрын
@yousef ahmed not really, they are two different rounds man.
@benwinstanley101
@benwinstanley101 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video love these old videos with Barry .
@michaelharle44
@michaelharle44 5 жыл бұрын
thanks guys love the unbiased honest opinion. shot placement. is key.
@FilosofoCA
@FilosofoCA 7 жыл бұрын
The best caliber is any caliber because is better than no caliber. Right?
@drewpeackoc386
@drewpeackoc386 7 жыл бұрын
FilosofoCA not if you have a 50 bmg round and a glock
@FilosofoCA
@FilosofoCA 7 жыл бұрын
Well in that case, yes.
@tarlzthe14th
@tarlzthe14th 7 жыл бұрын
Unless the guy with the glock shoots first.
@thatguy22441
@thatguy22441 7 жыл бұрын
The best caliber is the one that consistently hits its mark.
@davidlgomes7120
@davidlgomes7120 7 жыл бұрын
dats rite, i wouldnt want to get shot by a 22 never mind 380, nobody volunteers
@208SledHead
@208SledHead 10 жыл бұрын
I think this is your guys' best video.
@sitkadiver40
@sitkadiver40 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying, "shot placement". That is exactly the answer folks need to hear.
@kenschaefer5303
@kenschaefer5303 5 жыл бұрын
Gentlemen, thank you for your service. AND. thank you for a great video. This was some great information on firearms ammo and terminal ballistics. Really great explanations. Thanks again. I love to come to your shop sometime. Ken
@jamalblount5159
@jamalblount5159 9 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting stuff. I am getting a security job pretty soon and I'm looking for a new sidearm, right now I'm leaning towards the 45 ACP as my caliber choice due to the fact that if I didn't have any hollow points available I would feel confident enough with the ball ammo. There's nothin wrong with the 9 millimeter but there's one factor that was not mentioned and that is what if one shot is all you get? I'd much rather have 1 45 ACP bullet hit my would-be attacker over a 9 millimeter bullet regardless of shot placement. One of the biggest pluses for a 9 millimeter is you have more rounds in the gun but I think personally if you have to discharge your gun 17 or 18 times to stop a threat you really need to spend more time on the range.
@lowerspeedhigherdrag
@lowerspeedhigherdrag 9 жыл бұрын
After working armed security for years, generally you are issued a sidearm in whatever caliber the brass decides. If you need to purchase your own I have always been told "duty caliber" ie something the military or LEO carry. The vast majority of the companies unless you have a military contract will be 40s, so if your gonna get something I would start with that.
@lowerspeedhigherdrag
@lowerspeedhigherdrag 9 жыл бұрын
I can't come up with a scenario where I would only have one round. I have a magazine in my gun and my pocket for a reason. But the idea of a handgun is not to kill, just to get the bad guy to stop doing what made you feel the need to shoot said bad guy in the first place. If he stops after 1 round mission accomplished. If you literally only have one round, run.
@TonyTheWildcard
@TonyTheWildcard 8 жыл бұрын
+Taticallyfluffy Marine If I have to shoot someone, I'm not going to only shoot one shot to see if he stops.
@kismetcapitan
@kismetcapitan 10 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of the 22LR cartridge. As a veteran of a combat unit, it was my job to be an expert with the 5.56, 7.62, and 50BMG. But as a civilian, I have no need for long range shooting. It is overstated, but the 22LR is fun to shoot. It's very accurate under 100 yards and it's easy to place several rounds exactly where you want them, and to do so very quickly. There are limits to the 22LR, but for civilian duty, it's doubtful I'd encounter them.
@anchorbait6662
@anchorbait6662 6 жыл бұрын
kismetcapitan I loved what you had to say. you should say this louder so more people hear you though. :) peace
@cashflow2591
@cashflow2591 6 жыл бұрын
kismetcapitan I carry a Glock 42 which is 380 is perfect self defense round for me.
@noahpaul7491
@noahpaul7491 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I carry a 9mm. Little to no recoil which means more shots on target faster.
@MisterDoge
@MisterDoge 5 жыл бұрын
I think .22 magnum is a better round for self defense. Especially if you get the heavy projectile rounds so it doesn't kill your ears
@kermit2.041
@kermit2.041 5 жыл бұрын
@@MisterDoge my ears are the last thing I'll worry about in a self defense shooting tbh
@vrsmartin2981
@vrsmartin2981 5 жыл бұрын
Good watching back on old vids. RIP Barry
@dv9485
@dv9485 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video , As a new shooter I loved learning all this information .
@dannywhite325
@dannywhite325 8 жыл бұрын
the caliber isnt really the issue...ANY OF THE CALIBERS MENTIONED WILL DO THE JOB!!! so now it really boils down to what caliber you can shoot accurately, control recoil and follow up shots, and has a capacity suited to your needs and skill level...
@rednecksniper4715
@rednecksniper4715 8 жыл бұрын
7.62x25 JHP in my M57 tokarev nasty combo
@terrybrown5402
@terrybrown5402 4 жыл бұрын
That's a hot ass round no doubt about it. I love my tokarev m57 too. But the velocity is a bit high and I'd be afraid of over penetration.
@martinpeters4505
@martinpeters4505 Ай бұрын
My tt33...
@feendog2711
@feendog2711 6 жыл бұрын
One of my most favorite lines. Noone will volunteer to get shot with any caliber. Thr other thing to consider is we dont walk around with earplugs either.
@blakelewis4828
@blakelewis4828 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are absolutely right couldn't have said it any better
@MrTacticalinuit
@MrTacticalinuit 10 жыл бұрын
30-06 for me in bolt actions :)
@fatedixon1885
@fatedixon1885 7 жыл бұрын
.40 s&w all the way. i like .357 too
@Glock-1
@Glock-1 7 жыл бұрын
I agree and apparently by the 17 year study we have reason to feel this way!
@jjjohnson5878
@jjjohnson5878 7 жыл бұрын
fate dixon I switched to 40 over 9 when I moved to ny state, very happy it, I always have a revolver loaded 357 on me at all times
@tristanmyers897
@tristanmyers897 7 жыл бұрын
Glock 1 that power doesn't mean anything unless you can accurately and precisely hit the target
@ivemovedmountainswithless1571
@ivemovedmountainswithless1571 6 жыл бұрын
Glock 1 Something that should be taken into account is that with bullet technology getting 9mm up to par, it hasn't been that long. With that being said, how could we honestly think that 40 S&W was a better defense round than the 10mm or the 357 SIG??? It's an even comparison, at best. It all comes down to popularity. More shots fired over those 17 years by certain calibers.
@loboguardian7875
@loboguardian7875 6 жыл бұрын
fate dixon you must be gay or a girl
@ezekielmajor5511
@ezekielmajor5511 4 жыл бұрын
I love you guys. RIP Barry! Would love to stop by your shop if I'm ever in your area.
@JohnDoe-cx9hv
@JohnDoe-cx9hv 8 жыл бұрын
that was awesome. thanks for your input guys.
@timallen6035
@timallen6035 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with what Eric and Barry said about shot placement being the most important factor. As far as the rest of it goes, it all boils down to personal preference. I personally like the. 45 acp. I like the idea of that bigger slower moving projectile. I do agree that with the 9 mm's lighter recoil it should be easier to make accurate hits with.
@spacetrucker2952
@spacetrucker2952 7 жыл бұрын
I don't want to get shot with a red rider bb gun.
@brianpartlow5530
@brianpartlow5530 5 жыл бұрын
I have caught plenty of ricochets from my kids red Ryder, they sting! The newer bb guns that shoot 1400 fps could do some damage.
@Namedeeznuts
@Namedeeznuts 5 жыл бұрын
SPACE TRUCKER was shot by red rider and had the bb stuck in my arm until I picked it out with a knife and stopped the bleeding lmao.
@chriswesterman5331
@chriswesterman5331 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why a 22 lr will do just fine.
@8918charles
@8918charles 5 жыл бұрын
Great analysis, thank you.
@jessaroo3291
@jessaroo3291 4 жыл бұрын
I love the 45 caliber hardball, because I love my 1911. Great channel guys!!!
@joerobo682
@joerobo682 5 жыл бұрын
From personal experience, the .454in your hand feels like a cap gun and the .22lr in the perps hand looks like a 155howitzer.
@nathankeel4308
@nathankeel4308 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you're funny my friend😎🤣
@MadProductionsink
@MadProductionsink 9 жыл бұрын
5.45x39 it is called the "poison" bullet for a reason :)
@benwinstanley101
@benwinstanley101 6 жыл бұрын
Be great to see a video on the more common wildcat calibers that not everyone gets to see or even know about
@rickshackleford6478
@rickshackleford6478 6 жыл бұрын
S&W 687 in 357 is an awesome firearm using it for a EDC is like strapping on a boat anchor. I’ll opt for my Sig 2022. Thanks Guys.
@menacinggesture5698
@menacinggesture5698 10 жыл бұрын
Ironically enough, my favorites are .357mag and .40S&W. haha. But I'll carry anything from .380 to .45. I think the caliber argument is a waste of breath.
@BigBWolf90
@BigBWolf90 2 жыл бұрын
I remember one time I was talking to someone about it. They said anything under a 9mm was worthless for defense. My response was if they wanted to stand down range while I shot at them with a .380, .32 acp, .25 acp & .22lr. They said "no cuz I don't wanna get shot!" "Well then shut up" I retorted.
@TheLondekZdroj
@TheLondekZdroj 8 жыл бұрын
.50.BMG is my favourite. You don't even need a gun to do damage with it :D
@adrianfernandez1677
@adrianfernandez1677 3 жыл бұрын
I have 9 mm .40 y 45 acp...all of them are great...I agree that you said I love this calibers...and I have 22 LR too...and I think is great too. Thanks for the video.
@rarityd
@rarityd Жыл бұрын
Stumbled onto this video today. Miss you Barry
@cesnapilot
@cesnapilot 7 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have a link to that study.
@thedanbot85
@thedanbot85 8 жыл бұрын
well, i was debating between getting a 9mm and .40, im sold on the .40 within the first 2 minutes.
@robosdrumworld
@robosdrumworld 3 жыл бұрын
TheDanBot I’m taking .40 over anything
@quincyharris6835
@quincyharris6835 5 жыл бұрын
The caliber argument is like the brand argument. Pick the right one for you and put shots on target and you can protect you and yours!!
@trebort.h.ginsab1149
@trebort.h.ginsab1149 4 жыл бұрын
Great video gentlemen!
@michaellauther8294
@michaellauther8294 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t get me wrong I love 9mm but for some weird reason I am so much more accurate with a 40 cal or 45
@TaraConti
@TaraConti 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! I'm a 5'5" 100lb woman & like you I love 9mm but I'm a much better shot with a 40 or 45ACP. I don't know why but I just find that the 40s & 45s are more comfortable for me to shoot. Maybe I just haven't found the right 9mm but I've shot alot of different guns over the years.
@calebroach1281
@calebroach1281 8 жыл бұрын
.357 definitely .357 hands down but mostly because i am a revolver guy. And a normal pistol just does not feel right.
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 8 жыл бұрын
+caleb roach -- And revolvers never jam!
@tristanmyers897
@tristanmyers897 7 жыл бұрын
caleb roach explain what a "normal" pistol is please
@5jjt
@5jjt 5 жыл бұрын
@Chres Thanos You are the first person I've ever heard say those words.
@freedomgunsandliberty
@freedomgunsandliberty 5 жыл бұрын
@Chres Thanos not even close. Revolvers are the most reliable handgun hands down
@vitalshok2238
@vitalshok2238 4 жыл бұрын
It was like blowing out a birthday candle. Eric I saw that smile you were trying to hide when Barry said that. I thought that was hilarious. Lmao
@waltergrant7991
@waltergrant7991 7 жыл бұрын
Another good video guys, thanks
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