@RedPartyCup feds are based

@@sigsauer_firearms >cops the war on drugs, lmao

@@sigsauer_firearms cringe username and unbelievably cringe comment

@@sigsauer_firearms no.

@RedPartyCup Exactly

Best kid I saw was like 10 years old and little and fast with a dialed in expensive setup. He was running a 2 man team. He could get under and over obstacles with his tall buddy VERY WELL. Modern child soldiers are great. Using decent tactics. Little bastard.

Ah yes the child soldier scenario

"It’s a great training tool if you don’t take yourself or the people around you too seriously. " - Lets not forget, the problem with Airsoft is Airsofters. Same with paintball.

Sounds like the real world, except real guns are heavy and explosives work.

"I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew and I'll come at you like a Spider Monkey!" 😆

Liku is cool but sharkshooter2011 is someone you should check out as well, he went from airsoft to being a grandmaster in USPSA, it's one thing to look cool on camera with the right muscle memory, a whole different thing to go from airsoft to beating 90% of real gun shooters in competitive settings.

The TREX Arms vid or something else?

I saw that video also, it made me go out and buy a glock19x replica bb gun the next day to practice reloading and other drills. It has made a huge difference in my speed and confidence.

Best training you can get for the $

If always thought those statements were strange. Every time I went to play airsoft, the majority of older players were guys from naval base nearby and their buddies from the other branches.

Yeah dude. No matter what you do, someone will cross their arms and shake their head. Can't let it stop you from living your life.

@@reeyuh526 One of the last games I played I met someone who was ex-Royal Artillery (UK) with 15 years of service, it's no secret that ex-military etc play airsoft and enjoy it just as much as civillians (like me) Another game I played last year there was a group of currently serving army and a Gurkha who were absolute beasts out there and were really fun and interesting to play against. Me and two of my friends took one of the objectives that was apparently empty, but surrounded by tall grass. cue a blank-firing grenade popping over the wall taking two of us out with no time to react at all (it may have been all three of us but I can't remember).

@@reeyuh526 Same. Almost half of my friends who plays airsoft are in the military.

the difference between a man and a boy is the price of their toy. airsoft guns have made tremendous leaps and bounds in terms of fidelity and authenticity: to the point where airsoft guns can cost as much, if not more than, their real-steel counterparts i'd never play airsoft myself but if you like doing it, don't let any critic stand in your way. they have no idea what they are talking about.

Technically I used to be a airsoft guy🤐

Indeed. Also I think south Park did an episode or something on airsoft and I found it pretty accurate lol.

@@juj9305 Yeah fairly recently

Lmao only because the price of ammo bro

@@AdministrativeResults btw, about your point on gbbrs being less advantaged, try running the heaviest weight you can. as gbbr main, I run .43s and I will most definitely tell you that it tears the aegs apart, not to mention, by far much more accurate. thoguh for indoors, stick to .3-.33

Yeah that stuff is hard, we use the arm bands too at my field (one team has none, the other team has one). Ended up walking straight into an enemy building with neither side realizing the other was an enemy till we got right up close and then had to scramble to hit eachother.

I friendly fired someone recently because their team tape was on their left shoulder and I could only see their right. They were looking back towards our spawn, so I shot him.

​@@othlasexcept everyone is able to wear any gear they want with no distinctive mark except for an arm band

@@othlas but it's not realistic. A team would need to have a distinctive gear, camo, comms n shit. It's sometimes not optimal when the guy 20 meters in front of you is turned in a bad way so you can't see his band

@@othlas Idk which scenarios you're playing but my field normally play normal blue vs red tactical scenarios. Ukraine against Russia is guerilla warfare which is all over the place and plays on a way bigger field than my airsoft field. Of course friendly fire happens, even with distinctive gear. And I'm not saying friendly fire is unrealistic. I'm saying that only having a colored band on one arm to differ between enemy and friendly doesn't make sense in a real scenario. The identification should be based on communication and knowing the team, it's position and gear. And if anyone can technically wear anything without being able to talk to him or to see his armband isn't realistic in a formated team, especially when the round just goes back and forth. But it's essential otherwise everybody would shoot at each other. But airsoft in general isn't realistic so I don't get the debate here.

I have to disagree😉

Bounds! Is that a small unit tactic’s pun?

Cherish those bodily fluids. Many a siren be searchin for the scrotals. Once theys has yas you'll be becryin the sleeps ye nay have an the funs be now a memories. All ye scrote bloat be for is draggin yer sorry frame to and fro the workplace and wakin at 11,12,12.30,1,2,3,4,5 at nigh for the banshee scream of the siren hatchlin. Never be full the account of ye earnins as that now be all be gone from now till the sweet, merciful embrace of death.

@@Shanetangybits True words.

@@Shanetangybits I second this motion

sigma male sighted

Just don't play Donkey Kong Barrel Blast, you'll lose that precious V-card in minutes!

And money, don’t forget money.

Galaxy brain play

VERY good point lol

helps us all in the long run

One more time for the Americans in the back SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED yall keep asking permission

That's a good way to put it. And dry fire is your katas. Then simunition is like sparring with steel blunts in HEMA lmao

Airsoft is like friendly sparring, simunition is hard sparring, actual gunfighting is a street fight.

Truth.

the biggest weakness is that you are not part of a unit. Sure you are in a team but everyone is lonewolf. Thats a big part of being a combatant. YOu may not how to handle and do the fastest reloads but without teamwork, all thats for nothing.

Damn straight, doesn't matter who you are, just have fun.

the game itself is still big ghey to he real steel community, always will be. however the equipment has undeniable parallels which are a great training aid in manipulation practice.

"Real steel", that's pretty cringe, bro. Airsoft kinda built a stupid community around it. Not hating on it since I did play it as a kid and still do occasionally, but after getting out of the military and coming back to airsoft and paintball, I did see a lot of stupid things airsoft and paintball players with no gun experience said about "tactics" this, or "spec ops" that. It's like they believed that airsoft or video games taught them real knowledge and were now passing it off as cannon. It was really stupid.

@@andreivaldez2929 Up to the dummies to spread their fuddlore. Like I said, it’s the fun factor we care about.

I was into real steel b4 airsoft but already knew airsoft was a winner b4 anyone in the 2A agreed. 'Bout time!

You forgot PP-2000 :)

An 94? Well fk me

airsoft guns arent real guns. You are still not owning any of the real weapons.

Well nooooo shit Sherlock. Literally what the original poster said. Owning a model of the Saturn V is better than not, because there's no way in hell I can own the real thing.

@@JacopoSkydweller not to mention the fact it would be a one to one scaled model of it

I second this so hard

how about all major guntubers that dont have a beef with each other?

We need this

@@RafaAelM beef? How many have a beef with eachother?

@@KaptajnKaffe Grarand Thumb and TrexArms. The others IDK...

This. Enough with the speedy bois doing 360 no scopes. The more real tactics and strategy used in an airsoft environment, the better the traini mg took it is.

@@TheBrick534 Airsoft must return to its roots Casual semi realistic skirmishes in woodland or cqb fields And Milsims

speedsoft is fun too. cant gatekeep airsoft. just separate them. like paintball. theres speedball and woodsball.... why do people have to shit on EVERYTHING

Let Speedsofters speedsoft. This whole “there should be only one play style” mindset is dumb. I used to think that way, but now I could just care less.

@@dockertonfpv I completely agree! Im not a speedsofter i prefer woodland and milsim play but if people like to speedsodt let them be, to each their own. Just don't bring speedsoft gameplay to the milsim events, keep them separate.

Get your gun license. You can own guns in Germany just like France or USA.

@@jaypee389 Its a bit harder in Germany. Gun permits are usually only given to competition shooters or hunters. Both are really hard to get, a hunting license needs around 6 months of training and school. Also both is really expensive so airsoft is a good alternative. I play Airsoft for my competition drills, because i cant train for finish brutality or so with live firearms here in germany. Also got a hunting license, so i own quite a few guns, but on german ranges well some drills cant be done simply.

@@BossDosTV If you don't already own a gun, how can you be a competition shooter or hunter... in order to get a gun permit? Sounds like an impossible loop.

@@BertieW0oster You take a class to get your hunting license, which then works as a gun permit for certain guns. This classes take a good amount of time and cost around 2000€, which are all in vain if you fail your exam. The exam is split into 4 parts, rifle shooting, shotgun shooting, a written exam and a practical exam.

Move to the states we will have the right for a while hopefully. The left is trying to take it though. And no states on either coast. They’re leftist states with restrictions. Texas, Tennessee and Florida are the go to places. No real restrictions except whats federal like full auto or short barrel rifles or shotguns. In those states you can even concealed carry pistols without any permits or licenses, if you can own it you can carry it without any regulation or requirements

100% True

Time for a small trip to an American range

@@efirizaki6457 one day man. Who knows I might not leave lol

Same after the great purge it ruined chnaces of geting my restricted for DD MK18 :( booooooooo

Get yourself a WK180C Gen 2 mate, they look sweet as

@@djcoopes7569 oh I will be. I'm just waiting on my pals to go through

also don't forget that the guy 350 feet away is a threat in real life, while in airsoft he may hit you if he is lobbin it.

Yeah you definitely still gotta train with your primary as well, airsoft won't recoil like a real firearm so requisition of your sights isn't as much an issue with airsoft guns but it does give you a good way to train skills against live autonomously thinking targets that shoot back rather than just stationary target on a flat range or competition course. It's always best if you can get one that closely mirriors your primary or mod it to be so. Like for me I have an hk91 clone in .308 and my airsoft variant is a clone of the hk g3 and full metal. So I run the same stock and grips, it weighs the same, the sights are identical, the only difference is my F position on the fire selector on my hk91 clone doesn't work where as it does on the airsoft model lol damn NFA and ATF ruining my fun lol

Yes, but guess what, simunitions can't shoot through walls, MILES gear can't shoot through walls or even thick concealment, etc. Even with the most esoteric and professional of training kit, that is something to be mindful of. Play as if all the walls are notionally very bullet resistant, but be mindful in real life they may not be. Unfortuantley unless you train with live fire at yourself and want to die, theres no way around it.

@@Gerwulf97 this is true but concealment and cover are two very different things. Plywood is great as concealment but not as cover. If we're being honest most things make crappy cover depending on what your adversaries are shooting at you. 7.62 and even 5.56 will happily go through most cars in one side and out the other albeit tumbling usually. Even cinderblocks make crappy cover depending on the type of cinder block, if its hollow or solid if its stacked in multiple layers thick or just one and again what your opponent is shooting at you, so really best way to avoid taking a round is move move move, body armor and most importantly take them out before they take you out lol but I mean that aside there really are a lot of positives to training with airsoft but I stress again as a supplement to putting in time with your primary system at the range and if you can through competition style obstacle courses because yes obviously there are going to be stark differences between a firearm and bb gun but as long as your bearing those in mind when training your performance overall will be a lot better when or if the time ever comes where it counts. Also if airsoft or paintball is useless as a training aid I doubt military special forces or SWAT teams would do it. Sometimes they use rubber balls with milder loads but often times they use paintball and I see a lot of active duty marines out on the airsoft field pretty regularly. I get where your coming from though.

don't ever forget that real guns can shoot THROUGH some human beings...... can't use the real thing for force-on-force training and it's a heck of a lot cheaper and more accessible than sim guns. Airsoft/simunition can be an invaluable learning experience if it's done with an good instructor and in the context of training rather than Meal Team 6'ing your way down the airsoft field with your buddy Kyle who just passed a kidney stone from drinking too much Monster. OP brings up a great point though, failing to account for the consequences real-world ballistics is often neglected. But force-on-force is a different animal than live fire training. IMO both are necessary. Airsoft is a solid option on a budget and even though simunition guns are way more fun and realistic, they're hard to come by unless you're a law enforcement agency.

Agree. I usually say airsoft is great because all the gear is the same. As far as intensity and "gameplay" I like paintball. You might think it's one little detail, but the pain of getting shot in paintball really drives the entire experience differently than in airsoft. There's more stress and a greater sense of risk in people's decision making. The idea of getting lit up in airsoft has barely ever stopped an aggressive player from attempting a crazy run through. In paintball, a fairly experienced player might try that once or twice in a day, and if they fuck it up, they'll be reminded of it by the dozen welts they have for the next week.

@@dogboy0912 I've done both Airsoft and Paintball, both hurts in their own way. I've done way more airsoft than paintball but at the end of the day, you're not going to die or face a huge risk of death when doing the two of them so even if you hurt, you still got some adrenaline pumping and who cares, you'll be fine (Even better if you're a masochist but that's not the case for most people, and I understand that pain in Paintball is greater overall, since I've experienced it myself hit pretty much everywhere). If you want to push a position and risk something, yeah in paintball it's way more apparent and you avoid getting shot as much as possible because of the pain, but if you care about your 'life' you shouldn't want to get hit in any situation anyway, depending on how you think, it might change a lot. For example, in Airsoft, if you go and only do casual games where you have unlimited lives and it's all about an objective of some kind where you can suicide on the enemy and allow your team to push, yeah who cares a lot of experienced players are going to push like a speed-softer. Now let's say that you have a limited amount of lives and you want to take the game a bit seriously, you're going to want to avoid getting shot as much as possible so you'll think things out way more. Same for mil-sim and such with scenarios where you have only one life, you're making the most of it and you're not going to just rush into people and die, that's where advanced tactics comes in very handy. The distance of engagement in Airsoft is far greater than in Paintball in my opinion too since Paintball projectiles are heavier so you can allow yourself to take more liberty if you don't like CQB too much. Another thing is to never forget that real firearms can shoot through surfaces and you'd want to be as aggressive as you can be to be as effective as possible in an engagement, you can do that in both sports but if you want to separate them, Paintball would be very good for CQB aggressiveness, and Airsoft would be very good for full-auto suppression from other ranges since you can output way more projectiles. Always use them as a complement and make sure to do both in a smart way where at the end of the day be like "I learned things and I had fun.". I mainly do Airsoft nowadays to test my kits and see what works or doesn't, or get a bit of cardio with fun while being fully-kitted. Tactics comes last depending on the situations and who I am playing with since not everyone wants to cooperate the way I do. Better to play with a group of people that have the same mindset, etc, especially if you want to do stacks or actually practice positioning and angle coverages plus having the very important (basic yet almost forgotten by a lot) reflex of pulling security effectively while moving or being static. There are tons of things you can do to make it viable to a certain extent, the key is to have an open mindset and to adapt while using your head. As soon as you understand the limits and reach of both airsoft/paintball and real firearms, you're set with a good base.

I meannnnn if you don't die, and won, is it stupid? Speedsoft for the win.

@@UnfiItered Speedsoft is not a valid training tool, we're talking about actual training and not just rushing in like you're playing Apex. This won't help you in a real fight unless you have a surprise advantage, and even then, it's too risky if that's the only skill you have. Speedsoft stays arcade.

@@kiLLaima it's partly a joke but I mean.. it a valid tactic that could be used by either enemies or friendly irl. Sweeping through a shoot house, you're not really taking it slow. You're quick in quick out. If you die to a speedsofter, irl you would die to a enemy using that tactic. So training to combat that tactic is a valid training tool. Also training to use that tactic is a valid training tool. There's no right or wrong way, every scenario is different.

Brands like ghk do a accurate recreation on their réplicas with their gbbrs such as the m4 they had licensed from colt.

The drugs you fuel your war tribe of young bandits and barbarians is even simulated from all the candy and soda

Noice

nice, Currently building out a MK12 GBBR :)

Sell wetech, buy vfc.

@@chspg_alvis Sorry but no. :) I like retro rifles.

@@airsoftgunswithclassicalmu8393 Not talking about retro, I'm talking about products with steel, last longer.

Hitler Youth 14-17 years old dominated British and Canadian Commando's in Caen, France WW2. If not for Artillery, Commandos would have been effed.

Imagine giving smart little 14-17 yr olds JTAC and Forward Observer capability. 😳😆.

@@jaypee389 based

@@mmgr2k196 Based 101st Airborne 18 year old child soldiers. Based.

Agreed 100%. I have played for over a decade now (started in high school) and have always enjoyed the elitist "real steel only" fellows get wrecked by kids because things are different when your targets shoot back at you. Obviously there are limitations. I can stand out in the open unchallenged with my sniper rifle if I want to....bad habit for real life tho. But I try to run every game deathless, and it really forces good habits.

You will always have anime.

Take a look at liku and how quickly he got a handle on the recoil and nuances to real firearms and in short order he was slinging steel like guys who have been shooting most of their adult lives if not longer

Japan’s airsoft community is insane. They put more cash into their airsoft setups than I could into some real guns.

@@Tarumarugan I feel that, my krytac that no longer has any krytac is probably a 1k+ rifle at this point... granted my main AR is a BCM upper with a echo 2 trigger haha so not far off. I run holosun optics on both though. My GBB pistol is a M17 with a holosun pistol dot and my main pistol is a P320/m17 with a deltapoint pro. That said I did cheap out on my lights, have 2 olights on my airosft while I have a modlight and surfire on my rifle / pistol.

That's great to hear. What course in Texas was it? I would like to take it

@@christ.5258 I took the training through T1SMG Security they had a training department but I can't find any information about it anymore. I don't think T1SMG is still in business unless they are operating under a different name. The gentleman who instructed the class was a former Air Marshal and Blackwater Contractor.

It's also a hell of a lot cheaper than most of those other options for force-on-force training. Now, the one thing that most airsoft rifles and pistols *don't* offer is a 100% match for the weight of actual firearms and associated kit, though.

@@Schwarzvogel1 once you do enough PT with your rifle and gear, it start to barely weight anything, and the light airsoft weight won’t matter. That’s at least my experience tho.

That's not even true anymore, there's replicas that have weights placed around the airsoft gun to make the balance/weight feel exactly the same as the real one.

🥲 my god

I'm old enough to buy guns but airsoft is VASTLY cheaper than real steel, plus I can own full-autos

Thats about the truest statement I have heard in this bullshit channel. Thats about the only thing that translates. Airsofting is not a replacement for unit tactics and teamwork. everyone in the field is just playing the hero in their own fantasy.

​@@Holret i think SmallUnitTactics, the cqb portion can be done in airsoft. but absolutely needs to be done by running with friends or maybe one dude that actually gives a shit. i been going solo to public days just to run my kit and save ammo, but it really lacks serious training environment (on public days) thankfully the field i play at, the dudes are into real firearms, gear/kit, overlanding etc. will host former green beret by the name of kawa mawlayee to run classes, and will usually run 1 cqb milsim day every month catered to more of the training crowd. but definitely, not all cqb airsoft fields are created equal, they are a reflection of the owner and the staff. And thankfully the one I go to, the owners are younger and know the current training culture and temperature very well.

also shaking out your kit, mine has been what feels like ever changing though I think i'm 99% of the way to what I feel is my personal "perfect" setup overall.

One issue with airsoft is that the weapons and kit don't match their real equivalent in weight. I imagine that you felt like quite a badass in your Russian VDV kit, eh? Have you had a chance to try out the actual equivalent (or what's available on the civilian market) to your old airsoft setup? If so, you'd probably see that it's actually quite shitty to Western/NATO kit in terms of weight. Airsoft AKs have no real disadvantages (other than the size of the magazines, which can limit your pouch selection) when compared to ARs. Real AKs are heavier, clunkier, and far less adaptable than ARs. I also personally find the iron sights on AKs to be execrable, and the build quality on them to be similarly vile compared to even the cheapest $500 ARs.

I guess it took time for many people to ACTUALLY accept this was a training option. Now with many "guntubers" doing it, it helps people to go from guns to airsoft... and viceversa

A field I used to go to have local PDs compete against each other, and their SWAT team would go to train

Good! However, I'd *strongly* advise you to make sure that your backyard is properly screened from outside view by hedges, fences, etc. You don't want nosy neighbors to call 911 claiming there's a man with a gun in your backyard, and for ornery cops to show up, yell conflicting orders at you, and gun you down... only to find that the "scary black rifle" you had was just an airsoft gun. Don't rely on the orange muzzle device on your airsoft replicas to protect you against such cases of mistaken identification. Be safe, train hard, and thank your parents for giving you one badass name of "Harley Willhite" which sounds like it would have fit an Old West or sci-fi bounty hunter well!

I would argue that outdoors, 5 to 10 airsoft BB's = 1 "bullet" in min of man accuracy at the furthest ranges the guns can shoot reliably. even heavily, heavily modded guns like my own are pushin it at 250 - 300.

That's my problem as well

The beauty is once you have established a good base of equipment you can use most of it for your airsoft fun as well minus the gun and mags of course.

meanwhile my disposable income goes to airsoft gear when I need to buy real ammo haha