Small arms solutions has a great episode of the history of the 416, 516, and 816. All 3 rifles were designed by the same two engineers, if my memory is right
@ASqdrnDA5 ай бұрын
for the 416 it was just from the HK engineer. Chris Sirois with him in the rest.
@quatre035 ай бұрын
Also designed the SIG MCX/MPX
@JasonLihani2 ай бұрын
I've owned a 516 Patrol since gen 1 back in 2010 and it's the ONLY gun I'll never get rid of. I sold my AK because the 516 is my apocalypse rifle. It's literally perfect.
@JasonLihani2 ай бұрын
If there is a downside, it's that it's a heavy AR. I love the hell out of it, but it's a heavy 5.56 boy for sure.
@johnhatchel968123 күн бұрын
For some reason I love the weight. Feels good and sturdy.
@blopjones16654 күн бұрын
It's my go to rifle to. Unfortunately I sold my lwrc m6 ic . The bolts would swap but the lwrc was a little bigger I think. I didn't try to shoot oubuvisly. But 3k rounds threw my sig with 0 malfunctions of any kind.
@jrshort1382 ай бұрын
I love mine, the thing is built like a tank! It is my go if needed.
@angryveteran85855 ай бұрын
Before covid, i remember seeing the uppers for like 6 or 7 hunnit
@johnpush45855 ай бұрын
bought 4
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Damn!
@juanoncello865 ай бұрын
You have my 816 which I love, but the 516 quad is a VIBE
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Still testing it :)
@armorers_wrench5 ай бұрын
I just took my Sig 716 Patrol out to shoot yesterday. Its the .308 version of the 516 you have in this video. Great AR10 type rifle.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear!
@NATHANBROWN805 ай бұрын
Literally anything down below.
@Spamsmoothie170112 күн бұрын
Just to add, the SIG 516 comes with an H2 buffer and a standard milspec charging handle by default. Most SIG 516's came with A2 flash hiders but the limited run of G2 uppers that SIG made in 2019 came with MCX style 3-prong flash hiders that are compatible with SIG's suppressors. Unlike the MCX, the 516 barrel doesn't have a tapered shoulder so no adapter is needed to attach a different muzzle device. Earlier 516's have full auto profile BCG's while the later ones are profiled more like the AR-15 enhanced carriers. Also, Midwest Industries makes a replacement M-LOK rail for the 516. Unfortunately, they do not make one that extends beyond the gas block. Lancer makes a carbon fiber one that does, but only for the 716. Lancer makes carbon fiber rails for both the 516 and 716. (I'm not counting the 716i TREAD which is a different beast altogether.) Lastly, in the video there were comments about the chunky gas block and I'd like to point out there are three different gas blocks for these rifles. The one in the video does seem to be the most common type, but there is a version without the bayonet lug that's lighter and another variant that's almost skeletonized that's ugly as hell but much lighter than the other two. There are a lot of variants of the 516 and a lot of little changes made to them over their production run. Though the 716 is even worse in this regard and is compatible with even fewer parts from DI guns.
@bronzeguy98395 ай бұрын
I can’t recommend enough the Midwest Industries Mlok handguard they make for the Sig 516. Super easy to install and made the upper so much lighter.
@blopjones16654 күн бұрын
I think I'm going to get one.
@JetorgXIII5 ай бұрын
It's a hundred better than the 416!
@mghegotagun5 ай бұрын
Ar15s are 5 better than Ar10s
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
so true.
@timewave020125 ай бұрын
Still three hundred short of the Caracal.
@bronzeguy98395 ай бұрын
My 516 was 300 cheaper than the 816. I’m fine with that. 😂
@NikolayVitkov2 ай бұрын
Me and my brother each have Sig 516 Patrol and they are great rifles - reliable and accurate! They were the last two imported in our country and a lot of people are asking to buy them but they are not for sale!
@Msalazar6sicVI5 ай бұрын
I have a Sig516 gen2 upper and in a few days my Caracal 816 comes in! I wish the American Caracal had the quad rail
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Well enjoy!
@pathos19885 ай бұрын
literally anything
@nimda67905 ай бұрын
Been using my 516 for a little over a year and a half, eats like a champ, gets searing hot, and I myself changed the entire bolt carrier group for an LWRC piston one since it's slicker and looks nicer, and it just powers through anything I throw at it. It's built like a tank, and you can find their uppers here and there, just recently there was a department trade in of the 11" barreled ones, moderately used, they're pretty cheap and despite having a few thousand rounds put through them, they refuse to quit. Brick shithouse uppers with the only downside being their weight. Love mine to death.
@camoandplaid5 ай бұрын
Love the 516 uppers, but man do they got hot. It becomes real clear why all the full auto fire demos Sig did when it first came out ran the old broom handle. The m27 home gets spicy quick.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
agreed. Also, I still have your parts!
@juanoncello865 ай бұрын
Literally anything
@thewiezman5 ай бұрын
i love my sig 516, an amazing silencer host got mine as a complete upper for cheap
@SolidSnek2625 ай бұрын
Great intro and review to this classic 🤘
@thesaint15175 ай бұрын
I have one from the first version that I have shot only a few times and it has performed up to expectations. There are a few countries that use the 516 such as Mexico: Transitioning into the general service rifle of the Naval Infantry Force. Peru: SIG516 and SIG716 variants used by Subunidad de Acciones Tácticas of Peruvian Police. Switzerland: Used by the Mobilen Einsatzpolizei of the Aargau Police. Ukraine: Used by the SBU and GUR. As you can see, this rifle is still well received based on it's reliability and endurance.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Still a good rifle.
@adamg39115 ай бұрын
Love your videos. Your LWRC and this SIG are interesting and entertaining to watch.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Cacklingkameltoe5 ай бұрын
Just picked up a new in box 516 gen 2 fde. Its a sweet rifle. However, no bayo lug and the rail does not wrap around the side of the gas block
@calebclark67395 ай бұрын
It took Sig 10 years to finally make a rail go around the gas block.
@Marcus_Prather5 ай бұрын
Which one? I have two of these a 7.5 inch and a 14.5
@geminiclouda.d7555 ай бұрын
Killer intro bro
@newdefsys5 ай бұрын
Last time I checked (its been a few years) the 516 was completely out of production and even spare parts were extremely difficult to find. Its a nice gun, for your _forgotten_ _weapons_ style collection.
@tonytable15375 ай бұрын
Picking at the edges of my memory, so forgive any mistakes, but iirc: LWRC sued Sig over the 516, and a settlement was reached. Sig stopped civilian sales and started pushing the mcx more. PDs can still order 516s, and any new uppers/parts being sold are contract overruns
@newdefsys5 ай бұрын
@@tonytable1537 SIG getting sued sounds about right.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Interesting info!
@bronzeguy98395 ай бұрын
IIRC, the BCG in the 516 is about identical to LWRC’s design. Hence why if you ever need a new BCG, just get one from LWRC.
@RolandDelacroix5 ай бұрын
It still shows up in the LEO catalogs
@tonytable15375 ай бұрын
Quads and broom handles go together like lpvos and throw levers
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
It's the look.
@rockerdude80005 ай бұрын
I wish it was still in production but sig like no thanks after like two years if they aren't out of stock 10 minutes after releasing a new batch
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
They have moved on.
@newbievonnewberson73902 ай бұрын
My 516 Patrol is awesome. It is heavy, but I love the quad rail and piston. I HATE MLOK. I have two rifles with "modern" rails and I can't stand that mounting system. I'm in my mid 50s, weak, fat, and out of shape and I won't give up my quad rail for a lighter gun lol. Great accuracy, never had a single malfunction with any ammo, and it loves 77gr stuff for longer range (300 or less, being honest). I'll never get rid of it.
@JumCuggler5 ай бұрын
Would love if you do a review on a KP-15 and kp-9.
@ColeDedhand5 ай бұрын
Comment for the Al Gore rhythm.
@Mrgunsngear5 ай бұрын
🇺🇸
@lucaslegakis41055 ай бұрын
I personally own a Sign Sauer M400 enhanced. I would live and die by that gun. Sig by far make the best firearms in the industry! UNDENIABLE!!!!😮😮😮
@B5AZUL5 ай бұрын
Literally anything…
@mustachedliberty5 ай бұрын
"Literally anything"
@xmk-zc9eb5 ай бұрын
Soon as I seen it and sig 516 I thought she gunna be heavy.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
yep.
@timewave020125 ай бұрын
You said the upper is the same spec as an AR-15, but I assumed the rail was HK 416 height rather than AR-15 height. I believe the MCXs are also higher to accommodate the op-rod.
@user-qi3pw1mb7r5 күн бұрын
Sig gen2 patrol.
@chevyrunner88465 ай бұрын
"Literally anything down below"
@danielhess395 ай бұрын
Great review! It was discontinued in 2019😢😢 Great gun though.
@taylorfreeman55045 ай бұрын
Man I’m waiting on that uxr video tbd!
@Fuzzypizzas5 ай бұрын
Anything
@wombraider78035 ай бұрын
3:00 Maybe I have a different version, but my gas system actually has the regular and adverse modes unlocked, while the suppressed mode is locked
@bikeracerdude4 ай бұрын
Sig did use slightly different gas blocks on the 516 that had different markings, positions, etc.
@johnpush45855 ай бұрын
I put the POF roller on all 4 of mine. I got Caracal Sig uppers direct from sig for a song. Freakin best upper ever. I fired it side by side with a 416 and a LWRC. Cant say anything was better than my sig uppers. Liked the LWRC for weight but sig was a little more robust and liked more types of ammo. Hate sig for selling it out to caracal!
@bikeracerdude4 ай бұрын
Sig still offers the 516g2 in their LE/Mil catalog, and 1 or 2 of the 516 designers worked on the Caracal 816. What makes you think Sig & Caracal had/have any business arrangement with the 516? Enlighten me!
@joquin46185 ай бұрын
Literally any algorithm comment
@ChadCooper035 ай бұрын
Dope
@EnlightenedAtheistPhotog-mh1ty5 ай бұрын
Your gun might have a plunger in the barrel extension to support the extractor
@mrshort23795 ай бұрын
I have a question for you and its not about this content. However my question is, what is your opinion, on a 13.9" Ballistic Advantage mid length pencil barrel, with 1-7twist?
@appalachianoperator63785 ай бұрын
And what are the best budget lpvo mounts in your opinion.
@juanoncello865 ай бұрын
My 2 cents: don’t go budget on mounts, save an extra month, get some thing good.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
I guess Warne?
@JumCuggler5 ай бұрын
UTG Leapers has a great 30mm cantilever mount for ~$40.
@mikebrown44335 ай бұрын
ORION TRAINING L just released a shill video for your best friend.
@appalachianoperator63785 ай бұрын
What LPVO mount are you using?
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Warne 1.93
@scubatankgabe5465 ай бұрын
what optic is that
@anthonyvelez51735 ай бұрын
What was the red dot type optic used in the video ? 😮
@anonymoussurname5 ай бұрын
I had a 516 and only gave it up because for one they stopped manufacturing it so huge issue there .. but also I hated the hand guard - horrible. I did all the research from watching the video of the guy doing the over the beach sand mud tests and all to understanding the short stroke pushrod system. If they would have continued making it I would have just upgraded to the newest generation.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
That makes sense man.
@bikeracerdude4 ай бұрын
Sig still makes the 516, it's offered in their 2023-24 LE/Mil catalog.
@stevenkennedy41305 ай бұрын
Oi!
@josh6565 ай бұрын
Still want, 10.5 please
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
Me too!
@justanotherinternetexpert77432 ай бұрын
Wow, dude shot remanufacted ammo thru an upper loaned out to him.....i would be pissed if i loaned someone A rifle or upper that is no longer in production and the person used remanufacted ammo in it. Talk about playing russian roulette with someone elses stuff.
@kineticconceptstactical5 ай бұрын
It is a gun that exists.
@gundeals5 ай бұрын
agreed.
@johnhatchel968123 күн бұрын
And exists very well.
@hoeduselectricАй бұрын
Lmao I got mine for $900
@granitejeepc36515 ай бұрын
you been watchin too many movies with that intro.....btw i have two of them...i use both as high fire rate weapon...not like a normal rifle....get yaself a forward vertical grip....and manta rail covers "not your area of expertise"...wtf??its a combat rifle so for use you are either a collector or the other...if your the other you can use a butter knife or this to do the job
@sleigh40195 ай бұрын
Are we gonna do this every 10 years ?02 we here its better and nahh....then its 2010-12 we have a huge fight and by 2013 we say nahhh.. Here we are again lol...