Badlands: The Sad Story Of the Band & Death of Ray Gillen

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4 жыл бұрын

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Today we take a look at the band Badlands from the late 80's and early 90's. The band had some success and exposure with their first two albums, but tragedy struck the band as Ray Gillan left the group and died following the group's second album. The band tried to regroup but would disband by 1993.
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@larryrock11
@larryrock11 2 жыл бұрын
The first Badlands lp was on a completely different level! Jake E Lee is one of the best guitarists from the 80's and is still crushing it!
@smorgdonkey
@smorgdonkey 11 ай бұрын
It is on a completely different level but I feel the same way about VooDoo Highway...it was like Led Zeppelin got all modernized and refined. I mean, I don't see much correlation in the drumming but that's not to demean the Badlands drums, just not Bonham-like. Anyway, love the band.
@AnneStJames-fi8db
@AnneStJames-fi8db 2 жыл бұрын
Ray was a beautiful person. I will never believe he knowingly or intentionally infected anyone! He was one of my ex husband's best friends. Like a brother to him. I was present in Ray's last recording session in NYC. We did not know he was ill, but he looked strange. When he said to me: " Take care of my brother" chills went tbrough my spine... I knew something was wrong. That was the last time I ever saw him. No friends were let to see him in a hospital... Google Sun Red Sun albums for the recording. Also google 5th Anniversary Memorial Tribute by Ray Gillen.1998. My ex organized Ray's memorial concert at Irving Plaza in NYC. Ray's beautiful Mom was present. Ray is truly missed. One of the sweetest caring guys I have ever met. He passed away too young. One of the best rock voices ever!
@codypendant1
@codypendant1 10 ай бұрын
He came into where I werked many times in Hollywood with his GF. It was a 7/11 on Sunset blvd just up from Guitar Center. Ray would always hang out for a few minutes and just chat, even asking questions and such.. very down to earth. If Ray had a rockstar ego, I never saw it. Was pretty bummed when I heard he passed.. thnx for yer story about Ray.. 🤘🤠🤘
@Bad_Phil
@Bad_Phil 9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this… I hate all the disparaging stuff
@Barefoot433
@Barefoot433 Ай бұрын
I think you are right. I don't know all for certain, but I'd bet my bottom Dollar that he would go celibate before passing AIDS to anyone on purpose. Doesn't seem like that type of guy. Not to mention, while sick you do not feel like fucking every hot girl in the room anyway. If his band and label had supported his band and him, perhaps he could have afforded those wonder drugs that saved :Magic Johnson" (which he surely used as an enticing weapon against women- i.e. his "magical dick"). I do not think Ray was that kind of a man. I think he would have sacrificed all of his carnal pleasures to protect others, and not have spread it around. I don't like seeing him slandered. Good people often are after they die. It is fucked up.
@mrd7141
@mrd7141 23 күн бұрын
Ray was amazing. I was lucky enough to see him with Black Sabbath add Badlands. I got to meet him a couple times you're right he was amazing.
@DonJoeBob
@DonJoeBob 4 жыл бұрын
Jake and Badlands is one of the best. Personally, Voodoo Highway was one the best hard rock albums ever. An assault on the genre of blues rock, Jakes playing has that massive tone and soul, Greg's bass lines are to be studied with how well they grooved with the immense sound Jake had and Ray's vocals were on point as usual.
@romankrhounek5974
@romankrhounek5974 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dusk is better
@danedenmusic
@danedenmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Voodoo Highway is such an excellent album it never gets old.
@kdog6958
@kdog6958 Ай бұрын
Voodoo Highway has my favorite Badlands song The Last Time. Also Whiskey Dust, 3 Day Funk, Fire and Rain (cover) and Heaven's Train. Ray Gillan was to me one of the best singers, period. I heard an interview with Zakk Wylde. The interviewer sad that Ozzy was blessed with having 3 great guitar players over his career. Zack corrected him and said 4. Then he mentioned Jake. I really wish Jake E Lee got the respect and recognition he deserves.
@Fixxer315
@Fixxer315 4 жыл бұрын
I saw Badlands live once, opening for Great White and Tesla. Although they only had about 30 minutes to do their set, they did a great job of firing up the crowd. It's a shame that they're not better remembered, since their debut album was indeed amazing.
@staceyoneal3175
@staceyoneal3175 2 жыл бұрын
I saw them when they did that tour too !!! I think it was 1987 or 1988 maybe? I saw them in Norfolk VA and that was one of my all time favorite concerts 🤘❤️
@passingcloudchris
@passingcloudchris 2 ай бұрын
Badlands first album completely blew my mind and I became obsessed with it right after the first time I listened to it. I’m 60 now, and I still thoroughly enjoy the album to this day. ✌️
@drummer7557
@drummer7557 3 жыл бұрын
No one in 1989 (when I was 14) sounded anything like BADLANDS..they sounded like they just dropped out of 1971, while everyone else was busy playing fast, wearing lipstick, HUGE hair (wasn't badlands), and just making pop rock. Badlands were reinventing raw in your face rock n roll and probably didn't even know it! Had Ray not died it's hard to tell how far they would have gone. R.I.P RAY... no one will ever sing like you!!
@kingsleysamuelson6528
@kingsleysamuelson6528 8 ай бұрын
Kingdom come
@knuthkahler
@knuthkahler 8 ай бұрын
Wow, you were 14 years old. Respect my friend ! I was 27 at that time. Still, feel the same way live you Do! I was lucky to get the vinyl about a year ago for 60 Euro !!! By the way, at Amazon it cost at least 100 bucks. Record company stoped selling it because of Ray's death. It's framed hanging at my wall. Keep on rockin' and greetings from germany
@societydwellingifd8080
@societydwellingifd8080 4 жыл бұрын
*_I love their first album. I played it all the time on cassette back in the day._* 🤘🏻💀🤘🏻
@StephenS-2024
@StephenS-2024 4 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@davidmolina3520
@davidmolina3520 4 жыл бұрын
That first album smokes!!!
@jeffhodge7272
@jeffhodge7272 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Wore that tape out.
@HuddshouseofRockNMetal
@HuddshouseofRockNMetal 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy it as much today as I did 30 years ago.
@johnparent7159
@johnparent7159 4 жыл бұрын
Great band
@Brendini27
@Brendini27 11 ай бұрын
Badlands played at the bar my ex-husband worked at in Houston Texas circa 1990 and I met Ray Gillen and he was one of the most down-to-earth genuine nice guys in a rock band I had ever encountered. I was truly saddened when he passed away some years later. I will always remember hugging him at the end of our conversation and his parting words to me, which were "I will always remember you." Sadly I never got to see him in person again to see if that were true.
@nancymoreira-adragna2344
@nancymoreira-adragna2344 Жыл бұрын
Awesome band, music. Ray has to be one of the top.vocalists of all time.
@RHM-up5hn
@RHM-up5hn 3 жыл бұрын
Badlands was a great band. They had awesome guitar riffs and Ray Gillen had a great rock n roll bluesy voice. They were one of my favorites from the 80s. If you can get their albums Badlands, Voodoo Highway and Dusk, you will not be disappointed. They rock.
@timvijgen5996
@timvijgen5996 4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Badlands was more of a hard rock band, not a hair metal band
@dragons_red
@dragons_red 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ferox965
@ferox965 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. There was a very cool bluesy tinge to them. Same vibe would grow into Cinderella.
@planet6393
@planet6393 4 жыл бұрын
Rumbling train is a good example
@guitarizt68
@guitarizt68 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just your opinion - it's FACT. The ignorant, uneducated and otherwise clueless morons label them as "Hair Metal".
@robwalsh9843
@robwalsh9843 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Badlands and Tesla(Sacramento band)reflected that even before grunge had come along, hard rock fans were tired of all the pomp and glitz associated with hair metal. They wanted a more stripped down approach.
@lancerx1759
@lancerx1759 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Fan of Jake and Ray but Ray Gillen was the Voice in an Era of Many Great Guitarists and Make No Mistake it was that RARE Beautiful Voice that Drew Most to Badlands Ray Gillen was Something Super Special
@-marino2782
@-marino2782 2 жыл бұрын
Ray Gillian was/is still one of the best rock singers ever. He was awesome
@sidscifi
@sidscifi 4 жыл бұрын
I was cranking them and Dangerous Toys around the same time
@dougbennett8592
@dougbennett8592 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Saw Dangerous Toys live and was impressed.
@sidscifi
@sidscifi 4 жыл бұрын
@@angusorvid8840 hahaha wonder if she was asking people to take her drunk...
@sidscifi
@sidscifi 4 жыл бұрын
@Lebo leigh Leigh That's cool they weren't for everyone 🤘
@wheelz23
@wheelz23 4 жыл бұрын
Still have em and the dangerous toys album with sportn a woody, feels like a hammer tunes etc in my vehicle since their inception. What gems.
@JayTor2112
@JayTor2112 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I remember going out and buying both Voodoo Highway and Hellacious Acres together since they were released the same day.
@jimmyr204
@jimmyr204 3 жыл бұрын
Lucky enough to see Badlands back in the day at Baltimore's legendary Hammerjacks. What a show!
@gregcolleyartservices
@gregcolleyartservices 4 жыл бұрын
I knew Ray and was friends with him when he lived at the Oakwood Apartments on Barham Boulevard in Los Angeles where I lived at the time as well. All the bandmates from Alice in Chains as well as many other partiers were living there at the same time (circa 1989-90). Many of us hung out by the resort-style pool and jacuzzi quite often drinking and smoking. Ray was always very cool to be around and was extremely down to earth without exhibiting any drug or alcohol-induced behavior or star ego at all. I saw the band at the Palace and his presence on stage, as well as off stage, was that of a confident person that didn't have to act. Life moved on and everyone moved on and I forgot about him for years until I heard he died of aids and read the wiki page. Today, this is the first time I've read this story and the comments, and I'm saddened by it for sure and even more sad for the women he afflicted. The story doesn't match the Ray I knew but I was only a short time neighbor. He was very focused on his career and he didn't exhibit any drug-induced behavior when I knew him other than typical poolside drink and pot. He would bring model type babes to the pool and on one occasion I did exhibit some questionable kinkyish behavior but I took it as something you could expect from a rock star (I guess) but now maybe question it a bit more.
@jeffhodge7272
@jeffhodge7272 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks what happened. But. I'm gay and am lucky to have survived those early years of AIDS when it was killing people like crazy.I turned 21 in '86 so... I was not that overly active because I hated wearing condoms.So.I abstained.Or had long term relationships. It's been 30 years since this incident with Ray.Speaking ill of him sucks.I doubt he was the monster people are making him out to be.He was probably in denial.
@mickeyguide3112
@mickeyguide3112 4 жыл бұрын
Kinkyish behavior isn't making him guilty. Ray propably realised he had hiv around the time you knew him 89-90. He's uncle (Nelson Bellper) from whom Ray most likely got the disease cause they shot heroin together was diagnosed Aids in 89-90...according to a interview by Jake. E Lee. If he used condoms with the women at that time he isn't guilty. If he didn't he was irresponsible but those women who supposedly got hiv from Ray could have gotten it from somewhere else too just saying. It's very unlikely that virus would spread already from the first sex time between man and woman.
@lisellesloan3191
@lisellesloan3191 3 жыл бұрын
@@mickeyguide3112 Huh? Of course AIDS can spread from first-time sex between a man and a woman.
@mickeyguide3112
@mickeyguide3112 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisellesloan3191 yes true, I just meant it's unlikely though still possible. People are condemning Ray so fast without really knowing what happened. Those scenarios I mentioned are also possible. It's almost impossible to know for sure did he infect other women knowingly he had Aids or not. Or did he infect other women at all...
@latsnojokelee6434
@latsnojokelee6434 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like the rumor mill is that he infected other women but people who know him don’t think he did. But I guess there was a lawsuit. As an aside, back in the 90s it was not unheard of for men who were infected to knowingly infect women. Aids does affect your thinking process and also some men had this kind of “if I’m going. I’m taking others with me”mentality. There were several lawsuits back in the 90s where men were being sued and actually I think one guy went to jail for doing this. I think they got him on some kind of intended murder charge.
@kathrynjordan8782
@kathrynjordan8782 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the first album of Badlands. I still have it and still play it. Ray Gillian was a great vocalist.
@linhthaiduong7273
@linhthaiduong7273 4 жыл бұрын
Yes!At least someone finally acknowledged Ray Gillen's talent..
@ppuntd1
@ppuntd1 3 жыл бұрын
For sure! 👍🤘
@Bass.sick.b1tch
@Bass.sick.b1tch 4 жыл бұрын
I was one of the 400k who bought that first album...I had forgotten about Badlands and didn’t know about this story
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 4 жыл бұрын
I had that album too.
@jimce2799
@jimce2799 4 жыл бұрын
Badlands was an incredibly awesome band. One of the most underrated of all time. Agreed they were not hair metal. Very bluesy and can definitely see the humble pie influence especially in the vocals. Voodoo highway is in my top 10 greatest hard rock albums of all time. Jake E. Lee is one of hard rock/ metals greatest guitarist ever. Saw his first tour with Ozzy and opened with bark at the moon....unbelieveable. he. Had big shoes to fill and did a great job.
@amynapoli5866
@amynapoli5866 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a huge fan of Ray Gillen’s vocals. This was a very interesting story. Thanks for putting it together.
@TheNorsewarrior
@TheNorsewarrior 4 жыл бұрын
Saw them on that last 1992 tour in UK, Newcastle Riverside, they sounded amazing, like they were trying to prove to each other how good they were. It was well known they were splitting up and before the gig we wondered if they would just be going through the motions. A few seconds after they finished Ray Gillen was heading out of the main door through the club, to get away quick, he was looking for a taxi (cab). We spoke to him briefly and he said he was looking forward to "Pastures new".
@Scottocaster6668
@Scottocaster6668 4 жыл бұрын
Just because they had long hair doesn't make them "Hair Metal" Far from it. God I hate that label, Hair Metal.
@stevenjones5830
@stevenjones5830 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, it's the worse description in the world!
@TheJpybus282
@TheJpybus282 3 жыл бұрын
I would call them more blues metal.
@Scottocaster6668
@Scottocaster6668 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJpybus282 Right, or Heavy Blues.
@SonnyGTA
@SonnyGTA 3 жыл бұрын
Right. POISON is hair metal.
@foesfly3047
@foesfly3047 3 жыл бұрын
Badlands is my second favorite rock band of all time, behind Led Zeppelin. Considering Jake E Lee's intense, blues-infused hard rock project produced only 3 albums, I think that says a lot. Jake created awesome material with other projects and bands but he reached deep into his soul and found something unique and truly special with these 3 albums-- especially the Badlands debut. The second album seems to be trying to appeal to a broader audience but is still very very good. The third album is excellent and it's a total shame so few have heard it. The song, 'Sun Red Son' is SOOO FREAKIN AWESOME! The guitar solo breaks rules and throws music theory out the window as it screams for your soul. Similar to but different from how this was accomplished with Jake's solo in the earlier, Dancin on the Edge'. IMO Ray Gillen had vocal talent and ability in a league with only a handful of incredible voices-- Robert Plant, David Coverdale, Freddy Mercury, Geoff Tate... Thank God these artists came together and created this small catalog of incredible blues rock music. None of these men are wealthy as they ought to be.
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 2 жыл бұрын
Are you crazy; they all made millions. Just not Ray Gillen.
@MartinMcCauslin
@MartinMcCauslin Жыл бұрын
I saw Ray in Texas when he was with Black Sabbath - great show in a smaller venue...
@YHRS
@YHRS 4 жыл бұрын
I had the tab songbook for their debut album in 1991/1992 and I poured over it every day. Between that and Ozzy/Randy Tribute, my high school days were packed with playing those albums over and over and over. I never could nail that solo to Rumblin' Train.
@brianbiehn1800
@brianbiehn1800 4 жыл бұрын
Me too ha ha
@GenXParanormal
@GenXParanormal 4 жыл бұрын
Jake replaced Brad Gillis, not Randy Rhoads. And Jake got along with everyone, he wouldn't give up his publishing right.
@julianschulz1620
@julianschulz1620 4 жыл бұрын
Brad Gillis was just a fill in, though. He didn't record any studio albums with Ozzy. Jake was always considered Rhoads official relacement.
@tonyiacomi4822
@tonyiacomi4822 4 жыл бұрын
No, he replaced Randy Rhoads as the permanent guitar player. Brad Gillis was only brought in to do the tour, he was never meant to be the permanent guitarist. He was a temporary guitarist until Ozzy found another one.
@jeffhodge7272
@jeffhodge7272 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonyiacomi4822 And did an awesome job on tour and Speak of the Devil. His sound was killer.🤟
@randywissler9923
@randywissler9923 4 жыл бұрын
Just think of what would have happened if George Lynch had got the job instead of Jake. Cuz George was the front runner for Randy's spot.
@ericmantel111
@ericmantel111 3 жыл бұрын
@FloodyBoy Randal And just look at current guitarist Andrew Watt's hair! Was he on break from the Marines when he got the call from Sharon?
@klingonsexy
@klingonsexy 4 жыл бұрын
Saw them in concert in Atlanta and was blown away by how great they sounded live. I really wish things could've been different and they could've been as successful as they deserved.
@ericballi4701
@ericballi4701 4 жыл бұрын
Myself and a close friend of mine were HUGE fans of Badlands when their first album came out. I think their 2nd album, while having a different sound than their first album, was equal in quality to their first. The death of Ray and break up of the band was a huge bummer for me. I still listen to their music and am still influenced by Jake E. Lee's guitar playing.
@CrueLoaf
@CrueLoaf 2 жыл бұрын
I was at the Astoria show. What a performance!! We all expected a black female soul singer which Jake had stated had replaced Ray (NOT John West as reported…he was later). Was amazing when Ray ran in stage and produced a very intense performance.
@sassykaren7587
@sassykaren7587 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever done a video about the band House Of Lords? I really used to love their music back in the day! I think their most popular song was I Wanna Be Loved. Thank you for helping me to remember a lot of bands that I had completely forgotten about! Keep on Rockin dude!! 🤘🤘🤘
@bobthebear1246
@bobthebear1246 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget their incredible cover of the legendary Blind Faith classic "Can't Find My Way Home."
@freebirdmcchester8257
@freebirdmcchester8257 4 жыл бұрын
Badlands was great. I got to see them live 2x. You left out the part of how Ray knowingly infected multiple girls with HIV on the last tour. He killed more then 1 girl and the record company was sued. That's why they wont re release any badlands in the us. The parents of the dead girls didnt want them making money off of badlands and it was part of the law suit. Very sad. Kinda hard for me to enjoy badlands and Ray's work after hearing of this sad news.
@FrostedSeagull
@FrostedSeagull 4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree Freebird 🥺 Ray Gillen "knowingly infected these young women". I too, cannot listen after knowing that 🙀.
@freebirdmcchester8257
@freebirdmcchester8257 4 жыл бұрын
@@FrostedSeagull I couldnt believe it when I first heard the news. So freaking sad. He would have gone out a legend! I was lucky enough (on there last tour) to watch them do there set from the stage hanging in the back because my friends band opened. It was a great ripping set. I'll never forget it. Ray was like a foot away from me talking with people. Kinda crazy thinking he might have hooked up with a random drunk fan girl that night. I havent been able to listen after hearing eddie trunk talking about it. Like rumbling train says " every night a dirty lady in a different bed" man the 80s were a crazy.
@genghis1971
@genghis1971 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining this, I searched them a few years ago and people were talking around this but not stating it so I never knew exactly why they wouldn't re-release their albums.
@PaladinCecil
@PaladinCecil 4 жыл бұрын
As a result, their albums are very hard to come by to a point where if you're lucky enough to find a copy, it'll probably cost more than half the price of the Earthbound video game. At a local record store eight years ago, I was lucky enough to find one on C.D. As shocking as this will sound to a lot of people, I found it in the bargain bin for a dollar, and after purchasing it, I told a friend who was shocked and informed me on how expensive it normally is. Eventually, I as able to get Voodoo Highway on cassette and hopefully, will get to purchase it on C.D. as well.
@williamdavidfrancavilla7388
@williamdavidfrancavilla7388 4 жыл бұрын
Was totally waiting for this too. I have a hard time listening to them too. Great band, brilliant sound, tragic end.
@August377
@August377 4 жыл бұрын
As well known and appreciated as Badlands' first album is, it is still highly underrated, imo. It's one of the greatest efforts to ever come out of hair metal genre, and to me it's right up there with Ratt's "Out Of The Cellar" and Whitesnake's "Whitesnake." Jake E. Lee Is still one of the greats and Gillen had that haunting quality in his vocals that was every bit in the same powerhouse which spawned Robert Plant. Even though their collaboration was short-lived, their material, especially the first album, still remains a staple. You must go find it. Jade's Song and Winter's Call will convince you.
@switchbladeromance1466
@switchbladeromance1466 10 ай бұрын
I was lucky to see Badlands at The Bristol Bierkeller..I have a signed 8x10 bw,a drum stick and a t-shirt ❤❤❤❤❤ They were AMAZING..Voodoo Highway is one of the best albums ..period!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
@ricstormwolf
@ricstormwolf 4 жыл бұрын
Sacred Groove was a solo record by George Lynch. It wasn't a Lynch Mob album.
@lyrick0127
@lyrick0127 3 жыл бұрын
I still listen to it. Amazing!
@alexandergilles8583
@alexandergilles8583 4 жыл бұрын
You should cover Jason Becker. Such a tragic tale
@davidschnare9945
@davidschnare9945 4 жыл бұрын
good call
@bryanmeekins835
@bryanmeekins835 4 жыл бұрын
Tragic, but also inspiring.
@grinder2401
@grinder2401 4 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally, I enjoy listening the two Cacophony albums the last couple of days.
@bennyh4950
@bennyh4950 4 жыл бұрын
If we're talking TRAGIC guitar players than look no further than ALLEN COLLINS from Lynyrd Skynyrd. Great story all the way around but cry in your beer sad.
@deanarupe73
@deanarupe73 4 жыл бұрын
My husband and I loved Badlands. We still listen to their albums. Ray was so talented. Thank you for this video. It was great to see
@1sliiver
@1sliiver 4 жыл бұрын
Ray was a scumbag. Get over yourself and find better heroes.
@warrenwebb8172
@warrenwebb8172 4 жыл бұрын
Wow , did not expect this video! Great background on a band I knew very little about. Maybe a video on all the common members of Deep Purple, Rainbow and Black Sabbath? Oh; and a Talk Show video would be cool too.
@davidfuchs9636
@davidfuchs9636 3 жыл бұрын
Jake E Lee was actually fired for wanting credit for his work in writing Ozzy's songs. Also Ozzy was not easy to get along with. Jake E Lee was so upset with the way Ozzy treated him that he didn't touch a guitar for two years. Gillan talked him into playing again.
@lyrick0127
@lyrick0127 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Jake was picked over George Lynch for being Ozzy's guitar player.
@ozzyvaldez1265
@ozzyvaldez1265 3 жыл бұрын
Jake e Lee Ripped off by Sharon and ozzy
@mikerush2959
@mikerush2959 3 жыл бұрын
That not really what happened. And Jake put Badlands together not long after he was fired from Ozzy. There is a lot more to the story. I was Jake's guitar tech from 84 until he was fired and then shared a house with him form 88-94.
@coreydm1969
@coreydm1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikerush2959 that's pretty cool. Let's hear some good Jake stories from when you lived with him, etc.
@mikerush2959
@mikerush2959 2 жыл бұрын
@@coreydm1969 There really isn't much to tell to be honest.
@sprtstr96
@sprtstr96 4 жыл бұрын
3 amazing albums! One of my favorite bands of all time
@johnbailey9314
@johnbailey9314 Жыл бұрын
Ray had a phenomenal voice
@angusorvid8840
@angusorvid8840 4 жыл бұрын
Terrific little video. I regret never getting a chance to see Badlands live, although I did see Jake live about five or six times with Ozzy, and he was amazing every time. It's a very tough business. I had a lot of hope for Badlands after the release of that debut album, which is a classic.
@jeffhodge7272
@jeffhodge7272 4 жыл бұрын
I saw them once.Jake's playing and Ray vocals peeled the paint off the walls.🤟🤯
@80sMetalHead
@80sMetalHead 4 жыл бұрын
Good start...but you kinda missed the HUGE settlement that happened after Gillen had infected some unknowing young ladies with HIV. Albums pulled from shelves and $$$ to the victims. Really tragic.
@1sliiver
@1sliiver 3 жыл бұрын
That IS the story. R&RTS is a turd for leaving it out.
@leejohnson7293
@leejohnson7293 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Totally missed the boat on that part.
@romankrhounek5974
@romankrhounek5974 3 жыл бұрын
Also why Atlantic won't let anyone re Release the first two albums
@MrNWA4Life
@MrNWA4Life 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear more. I've heard there were lawsuits, but can't find any details. And what's the point in suing Atlantic Records? They aren't responsible for what Ray did. You sue his estate. But then again, there's probably not much there. Then again, I've heard one of the women infected was the daughter of a bigwig from Atlantic.
@ssgss_shrimp
@ssgss_shrimp 2 жыл бұрын
One of the girls was a daughter of someone who was a higher up in Alantic records.
@angry_mouse
@angry_mouse 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! A tragic story for what could have been a big big band. Cheers!
@Michael-bl4no
@Michael-bl4no 4 жыл бұрын
Most underrated band in history. Don’t believe me? Go listen to all 3 of their albums.
@lawnboyfreak
@lawnboyfreak 3 жыл бұрын
@FloodyBoy Randal Chaisson is bad ass!
@lawnboyfreak
@lawnboyfreak 3 жыл бұрын
@FloodyBoy Randal he’s still bad ass when he played with Jake again live with Red Dragon Cartel!
@Nick-qf7vt
@Nick-qf7vt 3 жыл бұрын
Not even close. Budgie, Riot, Y&T, GIFT, Leaf Hound, JPT Scare Band, and others are all more underrated
@Nick-qf7vt
@Nick-qf7vt 3 жыл бұрын
@Randy Randal Slade and Sweet are definitely in the running. Tucky Buzzard and Blue Cheer as well. I'd put Nazareth up pretty high as well.
@Nick-qf7vt
@Nick-qf7vt 3 жыл бұрын
@Randy Randal We definitely could! Moxy, BTO, Savage, Tygers Of Pan Tang, Leaf Hound, Cactus, Wicked Lady, Buffalo, Free, Black Cat Bone, The Sonics, man I could go on forever!
@stupidusername38
@stupidusername38 2 жыл бұрын
Those first 2 albums were pure gems. Jeff Martin was the singer in Racer X, Paul Gilbert's old band before becoming the drummer in Badlands.
@arryrocks9167
@arryrocks9167 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to say what is a great band/album is difficult. The way I judge 'em is how many times I listened/played them. The Badlands debut will always 'rank' high for me due to the fact I listened to it consistently for at least a year and still love to today, 30 years later. 10 of 10, solid top to bottom. Ray was absolutely a killer vocalist and Jake, sublime on the fret board.
@scottbland5147
@scottbland5147 4 жыл бұрын
I just listened to the first Badlands record last week. Nice work here.
@darkavengermanowar
@darkavengermanowar 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Eddie Trunk telling Jake E. Lee that the Badlands first two albums are out of print because of Ray Gillen infecting Women with AIDS so the record company pulled them out of print at the request of the victims families
@jaydemetrick8399
@jaydemetrick8399 4 жыл бұрын
If I understand it correctly, I think there was actually a court order that any proceeds from those songs went directly to the women/families of the women who were infected by him... which sucks for the rest of the band.
@sburris65
@sburris65 4 жыл бұрын
Who sleeps with any of these guys without a condom and back up condom???
@TheBoomBoxGuru
@TheBoomBoxGuru 4 жыл бұрын
@@sburris65 Probably hoping to get pregnant and get a easy mill-ticket.
@tommydavidson5183
@tommydavidson5183 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that same thing about a year ago. If you go to a bar or anyplace that has a new style "internet jukebox" where you can download specific songs or search by artist,you can't find any of their stuff either.
@jeffhodge7272
@jeffhodge7272 4 жыл бұрын
@@sburris65 Especially in the late 80's.AIDS was killing people like crazy.
@RobertWeingher
@RobertWeingher 2 жыл бұрын
A fantastic band, i love all their albums even the album dusk that came out after gillen died, when sun red sun recorded their album gillen was in a bad situation so he recorded vocals for a few songs only so the rest of the songs were sang by other vocalists such as john west, i saw jake e lee live in 2014 with his band red dragon cartel, the band played songs of badlands, ozzy osbourne and their own songs from their debut album, ray gillen was one of the best rock vocalists of all times, his best vocals are in the second album of a supergroup called phenomena from 1987, thank you for sharing.
@ashesantics
@ashesantics 10 ай бұрын
I don't comment a lot , but got to say your videos are top notch.
@scottroberts3011
@scottroberts3011 Жыл бұрын
The Black Sabbath Eternal Idol expanded edition has the Ray Gillen version on disc 2.
@TheDeedeeFiles
@TheDeedeeFiles 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video my friend. Have a wonderful day.
@agentorange3417
@agentorange3417 Жыл бұрын
That first album is a hard rock guitar master class.
@SINC0MENTARI0S
@SINC0MENTARI0S 2 жыл бұрын
The entire video is quite interesting. I was surprised to hear that Jake E Lee had issues with other members of Ozzy's band. Is there (or will you make) a video on that? Kudos, man!
@charlieryan1736
@charlieryan1736 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting story 👍🏻
@smorgdonkey
@smorgdonkey Жыл бұрын
I love both of their records. VooDoo Highway is full of songs that I absolutely adore. I am happy that I was not aware of the tension between the band members at the time. I never knew about that until today. I loved the band too much so it would have been heavy for me.
@jeffk8359
@jeffk8359 11 ай бұрын
same here and I agree wih you
@sirtanon1
@sirtanon1 3 жыл бұрын
I was a HUGE fan of Badlands back in the day. They were pretty much the anthem of my Freshman and Sophomore years of college.
@michigunsanta8680
@michigunsanta8680 4 жыл бұрын
What a underrated band! Listen to the vocals and guitar on “the Fire lasts Forever” from the album Dusk. just amazing! 👍🏻
@dwb131313
@dwb131313 2 жыл бұрын
Badlands was such an amazing group. I wouldn’t exactly call them hair metal though. They truly were a special band that deserves much more recognition than they get.
@christophermerlot3366
@christophermerlot3366 4 жыл бұрын
Saw Badlands on their 1st tour at Rock and Roll Heaven in TO. Great show. Gillan was super charismatic onstage. There's no way this was a hair metal band.
@sensualcory5423
@sensualcory5423 3 жыл бұрын
SO TRUE. Beautiful charasmatic frontman. period. what he died of is irrelevant.
@christophermerlot3366
@christophermerlot3366 3 жыл бұрын
@@sensualcory5423 Here's a story: my mom saw a picture of him and said 'that is a damn good looking guy' This was back in the 80s and I was like Mooooooom!?
@supportthebandsstopfakecop1679
@supportthebandsstopfakecop1679 4 жыл бұрын
That was one of my favorite albums. Jake E Lee's guitar work was astounding. Great video Can he beat it, or will Badlands be this week winner
@markglew60
@markglew60 2 жыл бұрын
It seems as if everyone that played for Ozzy after the horrible death or murder of. Randy Rhodes in that airplane by the tour bus driver was scapegoated by Ozzy in one way or another.He treated Brad Gillis terribly as well after Randy's passing,band Brad did a wonderful job of playing Randy's solos off the records.I saw Randy play 2 concerts before his demise.He was spot on and played all 3:of his guitars in concert The Sandoval polkadot Vee, the Jackson Concord ,that Grover made for him , and the 70's Blonde Les Paul .
@markglew60
@markglew60 2 жыл бұрын
People seemed to boo whatever guitarists Ozzy fielded after Randy's death , until they saw that all of the them played really well. Jake E. Lee has said he was not paid any royalties off of the songs of the he albums he penned with Ozzy.
@PeachWNK
@PeachWNK Жыл бұрын
@@markglew60 Yeah, but I accept the boo-ing of Joe Holmes. :)
@stubkar
@stubkar 4 жыл бұрын
The REAL tragedy is the label's refusal to remaster and re-release their debut album, because of their perception of Gillen post diagnosis. By far the most underrated album of the era. It's pure gold.
@STETTRACE
@STETTRACE 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man but Ray Gillian did some awful stuff knowing full well what he had and how he spread it. Many law suits STILL surrounding those 2 Albums
@stubkar
@stubkar 4 жыл бұрын
@@STETTRACE not the fault of the rest of the band. It's their livelihood. Ray's been dead for a long time.
@STETTRACE
@STETTRACE 4 жыл бұрын
zepsett I agree 100% my friend. 100%. Poor Jake.... definitely one of the best straight up Rock guitarist EVER!! You would think after getting screwed By Sharon and Ozzy he has paid enough on the cosmic scale that he deserved to have success with such a Killer rock album!! He is still very unique when just comparing the first album to every thing else at the time he was so far ahead of the others. His own sound. Very well crafted songs. But his guitar is UNMISTAKABLE!! You just KNOW it’s him. It’s raw it shreds. It’s melodic. It’s got everything. And he is really a virtuoso. It’s even sadder considering what was stated earlier, with Ozzy being screwed over before by his wife’s father.... then he turns around and does the SAME thing to a young guy? And Ozzy KNEW how hard it would be for Jake no matter HOW GOOD he was. There is ZERO reason for a SINGER to get ALL the writing credit. ESPECIALLY when he can’t play a G chord!! It’s wrong. It’s not wright. A just because you use a euphemism and say “ business “ it is STILL wrong. It will NEVER be right. Under any circumstances. Jake put all he had in those 2 albums. At least Zakk has always give him his props. I’m sure that’s small comfort indeed when your broke after going triple platinum with 3 years of SELL OUT shows. Jake deserves the best
@TheIkaika777
@TheIkaika777 4 жыл бұрын
The record company won’t re-release the albums because all sales would go to the lawsuits and rightfully so.
@stubkar
@stubkar 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheIkaika777 release it. Recoup. Pay the families. They deserve something.
@SanitysVoid
@SanitysVoid 4 жыл бұрын
You should do videos on the tragic lives of all the bands that never got a shot and where they ended up.
@rcknrol7258
@rcknrol7258 4 жыл бұрын
Voodoo highway is one of the best albums ever.
@lyrick0127
@lyrick0127 3 жыл бұрын
Still one of my fave's to this day. So incredible.
@rogersanderscustoms8121
@rogersanderscustoms8121 4 жыл бұрын
I was, am a huge Badlands fan.
@tommychapman8911
@tommychapman8911 4 жыл бұрын
Badlands self-titled first album came out around the same time Dangerous Toys and Skid Row's first albums hit. Skid Row overcame the Grunge invasion that was happening at the time and got pretty big. But Badlands were never given the attention they deserved ! And their music was Leaps and Bounds above anything Motley Crue or Aerosmith were putting out at the time. Dangerous Toys Self-titled first album was killer from start to finish, without one weak song ! Felt like a Hammer !! My best friend Doug and I drove 3 or 4 hours from Richmond, VA to see Dangerous Toys at Hammerjacks in Baltimore in '89 or '90. They were there along with Tora Tora and headliners L.A.Guns. We got pretty lit - I even did Kamikaze shots with Toy's singer Jason McMaster while Tora Tora was playing ! I really hit it off with a smokin' hot redhead whom I met there. She had apparently come down from NYC to see the show, and she invited me to come home with her (Giggity giggity !) but like an idiot I didn't go ! I was a young and inexperienced 21 year old and had only heard stories of the scary ole Big Apple ! Turns out she was the singer in a band called Pretty Poison, who I hadn't yet heard of... So now, in addition to remembering how great the bands were and what an awesome time I had, I also kick myself every time I think of the night I screwed up the chance to really get to know such a gorgeous, sexy and super cool girl - who just happened to be the singer for a band that actually had a video or two on MTV ! Talk about regrets !! Oh and Jade - if you happen to read this and remember me (Tommy from Virginia) Just know I wish I'd have had the balls to come with you to New York that night ! Who knows what mighta happened .......
@ericjohnson2543
@ericjohnson2543 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone wondering why Sharon is the way she is and does people dirty? She gets it from her dad. He did the same thing to Black Sabbath.
@tholokrys1800
@tholokrys1800 Жыл бұрын
Her dad told her she could manage ozzy if she could keep him alive.don arden screwed black sabbath so bad that.they wrote a whole album about it..Sabotage...
@passenger6x3
@passenger6x3 4 жыл бұрын
I love their second album a lot.
@davidveen9251
@davidveen9251 4 жыл бұрын
That 1st Badlands is 1 the best debut albums ever , front to back its amazing
@stevepulford216
@stevepulford216 3 жыл бұрын
Badlands was so damn good! Ray had some killer pipes! I love introducing younger people, musicians especially, to Badlands.
@eyeheartsushi2212
@eyeheartsushi2212 4 жыл бұрын
Man, Voodoo Highway is one of my favorite albums of all time.
@TheRealMightyHokie
@TheRealMightyHokie 2 жыл бұрын
Badlands is the greatest band that never got to make it big. These guys were INCREDIBLE. Jake is the best guitarist Ozzy ever had (hey, I'm a RR disciple, but it's true), and Ray Gillen has possibly the greatest voice in rock history.
@rangerwhiskeybreath4935
@rangerwhiskeybreath4935 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most badass bands of the 80s, America's answer to Whitesnake.
@michaelhendricks6991
@michaelhendricks6991 9 ай бұрын
Good review. I have first 2 badlands records and enjoy them both.
@frekitheravenous516
@frekitheravenous516 Жыл бұрын
My high school GF lived the next town over from me. I used to walk to and from her house every day. A good 8 miles rounds trip. Any way, she got the 1st album right when it came out and made me a tape of it. I listened to the entire thing on my way home that night. Start to finish i was blown away. They truly are a hidden gem.
@jasonr9916
@jasonr9916 4 жыл бұрын
Badlands rocked harder than any hair band! Saw them live and they blew me away!!!
@SonnyGTA
@SonnyGTA 3 жыл бұрын
I saw them in 1991 at the Stone Pony, NJ. AMAZING
@savethofel8952
@savethofel8952 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this channel, and think you do a great deal of research. However, there was a lot more going on regarding Ray Gillen and his impact on the legacy of this band.
@pigpenclymer6098
@pigpenclymer6098 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to the poster of this video, who clearly spent 20 minutes researching Badlands to make a 6 minute video. It’s not even “the tragic story of ray gillen” it’s a six minute story about the history of Badlands.
@robertaugustine5350
@robertaugustine5350 2 жыл бұрын
The first Badlands album is still one of the best rock collections ever. Drama aside, it belongs in everyone’s playlist because Jake was able to showcase his talent w/o having to deal with Sharon and Ozzy. The context that they screwed Jake on Bark at the Moon is important in the narrative of how this band unfolded.
@llfeforce9484
@llfeforce9484 4 жыл бұрын
Ray Gillen was arguably the best lead vocalist in rock During Badlands all too brief history
@MrNWA4Life
@MrNWA4Life 4 жыл бұрын
Greatest singer I've ever heard.
@jefferysteen1041
@jefferysteen1041 3 жыл бұрын
Dreams in the Dark!Great song!
@jerrypuckett6733
@jerrypuckett6733 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best voices of ALL TIME!
@paroblynn
@paroblynn 13 күн бұрын
It baffles me that anyone in the last five to ten years still tells people to like, subscribe, and hit the bell. Everyone knows how KZfaq works. 😊
@sandyjo31
@sandyjo31 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, they were a great band. I wasn't going to subscribe because you have too much guns and roses on here, but I had to when I saw this, Another band I would love to hear about is The Four Horsemen, that would be fantastic!
@noneavailable5515
@noneavailable5515 3 жыл бұрын
Rockin' is ma business, and business is good!!
@ZacharyTheJackal
@ZacharyTheJackal 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I haven't heard of this band but this was a very interesting story.
@reithstrat30
@reithstrat30 4 жыл бұрын
well, proceed to listen to the 3 albums, you have missed one of the best bands in rock n roll history, pure, direct and authentic, with one of the best rock singers ever and a phenomenal guitar performance by jake e lee
@jimjones6419
@jimjones6419 3 жыл бұрын
Far from a hair band. Those first two albums are simply incredible.
@thetravenousgamer
@thetravenousgamer 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a documentary on Savatage, the Death of Criss Oliva & their Evolution into Trans-Siberian Orchestra. Savatage were also managed Paul O'Neill, and had a track called Strange Wings, which featured Ray Gillen on backing vocals.
@cindyfitzgerald4500
@cindyfitzgerald4500 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I never realized how handsome Ray was, what a loss musically.
@1sliiver
@1sliiver 4 жыл бұрын
He was a jerkoff who knowingly gave multiple women HIV over many years before he died. No loss in the music world. Find another idol to drool over, you sicko!
@planet6393
@planet6393 4 жыл бұрын
1sliiver settle down Jodie Foster it was just a comment
@MrNWA4Life
@MrNWA4Life 4 жыл бұрын
@@1sliiver Wow you sound all butthurt. Did Ray infect you?
@MRPERFECT_79
@MRPERFECT_79 4 жыл бұрын
ITS A GOOD THING YOU DIDNT REALIZE IT IN 1992 LOL
@angelasalvatore1892
@angelasalvatore1892 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the history of Canadian dance trio love inc please I’m a big fan I miss them
@NitroModelsAndComics
@NitroModelsAndComics 4 жыл бұрын
Badlands was a Blues based hard rock outfit. Killer grooves and singing. My fave all those years ago.
@latsnojokelee6434
@latsnojokelee6434 2 жыл бұрын
Jacob played in some blues bands when he was coming up. He had a very eclectic interest in music which is I think why he’s playing so interesting.
@catjudo1
@catjudo1 11 ай бұрын
Badlands' first album was definitely a cut above the rest, kind of like Blue Murder in the quality of the songs and music. The later hair metal scene was so bereft of genuinely good bands as the labels just catered the music to a female audience. As for HIV, it was not only a death sentence, but also a source of shame for those dealing with it. Sci-fi writer Isaac Asimov contracted it from a blood transfusion and his family kept the diagnosis under wraps until well after his death for fear of the diagnosis ruining his professional reputation. In that sense, those were bad times.
@MrDhilrd
@MrDhilrd 3 жыл бұрын
I got to see them twice, In Dallas with Eric and Denver with Jeff. Greg was my Bass spirit guide.....until I heard Trujillo!
@zls9890
@zls9890 4 жыл бұрын
"Sacred Groove" is the first solo album by George Lynch, not a Lynch Mob release.
@fatalstep1870
@fatalstep1870 4 жыл бұрын
Scared Groove is a damn good album
@mkkendall4105
@mkkendall4105 4 жыл бұрын
@@fatalstep1870 That album is one the best by Mr. SCARY. Killer tone
@samateam
@samateam 4 жыл бұрын
knew Ray a bit in the latter years of his life... solid guy and funny as shit.
@MrNWA4Life
@MrNWA4Life 4 жыл бұрын
Greatest singer I've ever heard!
@andrewswan4659
@andrewswan4659 Жыл бұрын
Powerhouse, what a gift to listen to!
@paulrhodes6598
@paulrhodes6598 4 жыл бұрын
It's a travesty they weren't bigger than what they were. Absolutely brilliant, talented musicians. Although I didn't know about the Gillian thing.
@KellyBergerDeusVult
@KellyBergerDeusVult 8 ай бұрын
This band had so many zeppelin elements and was so unique on their own. They could have conquered the world
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