I'm 100% against celebrity reality shows, but I would have watched a "behind the scenes" reality show of this delicious chaos in a heart beat

Considering this tour happened during the early days of Celebrity Deathmatch I’m surprised we never got a fight between these two. I could be wrong though!

The first time I heard Marylin Manson was almost by accident, me and a friend when we were fourteen we were playing basketball in a park when we both saw the Mechanical Animals album on the floor, so we both took turns each one week the album to listen to in our houses, it was one of the best times of my life in the 90s.

1:29 Lets take the time to recognize there is a Mortal Kombat 1 Arcade Machine in back of Hole here. God I miss the early 90s. Grunge and awesome arcade machines

I remember when this was happening. Hole fans were disgusted by Manson and Manson fans were disgusted by Hole. The fact that it wasn't Manson headlining made it pretty uninteresting to me.

Marilyn Manson going from doing his “I’m the devil” talk to falling down on stage is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard via The Bonfire and Dan Soder. Their idea of what that sounded like always makes me laugh.

Grandpa Manson and Grandma Love. what a tour

Lol. The photo you used for Mechanical Animals had the mannequin privates black barred. There's nothing there to censor!

I was in Spokane for the opening night and it was one of the best concerts I’d ever been to. The production value was incredible.

When More Ego than Talent collides..

Hard to believe that ever even looked good on paper....eww

I went to this!! I was a senior in high school and went for Hole. At the Cow Palace. Apparently the following shoe Manson fell off his stilts and they cancelled the tour. 90s we’re an amazing time!!!

Dave knew it was going to be a disaster, but thought to himself “how can I not be an up close witness to this shitshow”

Could you pls do a video on Marilyn manson and Trent reznors falling out

I attended a show on that tour. It was at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. I had to cross a line of protestors to even go to the show. It was shocking how great Manson was.

I went tô Marilyn Manson concert after the departure of Hole. It was in Long Island, and already under the name of Rock is Dead Tour. What a night! So many stories. Got sad though that I could not see Hole also. Instead it was replaced by Full Leather Jacket.

She was lying about her age. I wikipedied it and she's four years and a few months older than him. Still, not a big difference though.

I would kill to see Monster Magnet at that time, the rest of the bands are just "shock value" at best.

I’ve seen both, Manson was all theatrics lip synch and Alice Cooper knock off… as much hate as she gets her and the band hole played awesome live sets…nobody can take that away from them or deny it

I was at the Portland show, there to see Monster Magnet my favorite band at the time, we waited for Hole to finish so we could watch a couple songs of Manson and find out what all the hype was about. Hole was booed which made me laugh and Manson put on such a spectacle we stayed for every note they played.

Two thoughts: First, I'm glad that record companies are pretty much dead now. They were mostly money grubbing assholes, not artists or good people. Second, Love should've fired her management team. The artist is always the boss, managers work for THEM, not the other way around.

I actually attended the Tour after she left the Tour. In the Houston Concert of that year, I remember Monster Magnet and Marylin Manson. I wasn’t a fan of Marylin Manson but I ended up going because a friend ended up enticing me with a free Ticket. I don’t remember Marylin Manson saying anything about Hole or Courtney but the Monster Magnet singer did make fun of her. I’m not remembering if this 100% word for word. But Dave Wyndorf Monster Magnet went on a small rant. He said Courtney left the Tour because of all the negativity going on during the Tour. So of course the audience thought that was funny and laughed along. Towards the end of the rant Dave Wyndorf before bursting into Spank Lord M%$#%@er....”Do I look like a negative person to you???” and that was it. Fun Tour I wasn’t a Marylin Manson fan, I didn’t even know Hole was part of the Tour. My friend bribed me with a free ticket to the show so I accepted. But I did have fun and Marylin still played some of the hits like “Beautiful People”, Sweet Dreams and others. I didn’t like how he tore up some scriptures (probably the Bible and Book of Mormon) on stage and threw them at the crowd. I do remember the riggers over the stage watching the audience participation, it was insane especially during “Anti-Christ Superstars’ Repent”.

Ironically, the Marilyn Manson & Smashing Pumpkins show was awesome. Saw them in NJ years ago

I remember this tour, bought a ticket to see them in NJ in April 1999 Got there and there were signs all over "Hole will not be performing tonight".. Think me and my friend were the only people there interested to see both bands... Lol

Sounds to me like Manson is mostly in the wrong here. Doing drugs around her after she just got out of rehab, insulting her on stage, overspending on production, etc.

I had tickets and went to this tour but by the time they got in Florida Courtney Love stopped touring... I also went to the Alanis concert the opened with Tori Amos but many left after they saw Tori... including myself... most ppl who went wanted to see Tori not Alanis...

I was at the Vancouver show of this tour. I think citing different fan bases as a reason this tour didn't work is a bit if a reach, I knew a lot of people who were fans of both bands. Even though it was promoted as a co-headlining tour Hole playing first made it just seem like they were the openers, that's what I thought anyway.

They did the Big Day Out together at the beginning of 99. Manson was booed off stage in Perth because surfer boys couldn’t handle an androgynous man in a stocking body suit! Hole came on next and Courtney said not to start shit with her. It was a great day/ night. There was Christian groups sooking about Mansons tour and after he was booed off stage they proclaimed the youth had denounced Satan 🤣

I was them on at the Anaheim Pond on this tour. I never like Marilyn Manson until I saw their live show. Monster Magnet was cool, Hole was ok, and Manson was epic. I got punched in the face by a woman I accidentally clobbered because my friends thought it would be a good idea to throw me in the air, and I landed on the poor woman. It wasn't my fault, but I would be mad, too. It was an incredible show.

The guitar player Erik from Hole looks like a taller more strung-out version of Tom Petty... Am I the only one that see's this ?

I was there in L.A. Hole, Marilyn Manson, and Monster Magnet. Great Concert...aside from Manson breaking his ankle during the show

"She slept with every single one of my friends...except me."

Isn't it funny how everyone seems to have the same things to say about Courtney? She was being called toxic back in the 90s, and that seems to have stuck. Everyone she encounters seems to end up falling out with her and saying exactly the same things. You'd have to conclude that she's the common denominator in all these dramas.

Manson’s live shows during this period were the best I’ve been to. The theatricality was amazing. Ending the shows being crucified to a pair of revolvers, and the following tour dressed like the Pope, walking on stilts. Even the keyboard setup was great... mounted on springs or guns from gallows. I wish his shows were still like that

Courtney Love went to do Somerset one year with her band Hole & the crowd wasn't having it.. she didn't even finish her set I think she barely made it through one song, if that, & left... kind of a forgetful moment tbh .. but anyway what was happening was the crowd started chanting.. You Killed Kurt.. You Killed Kurt.. and wouldn't stop & just kept going & she was pissed

Mechanical Animal is my favorite album of his.

Jesus, I rather book ICP and the Bee Gees than Courtney and Manson.

Not a whole lotta talent between them

Who has something nice to say about Courtney Love?

Whatever about Hole, it's hard to believe that ticket sales were bad. Manson's band were so good at that stage.

funny thing is, Monster Magnet was actually the best act

Right away when I heard hole and marlin Mason I said no just no

I would have loved to seen this

Hole is insignificant in comparison. MM gives one of the best shows you will see.

My first concert ever was Manson on this tour in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Hole had already dropped out, and the show was opened by the band "Nashville Pussy". Still the best show I've ever been to.

I believe you did this video before but it seems like a revised version

I was friends with a member of Hole’s sister during that time and got to hear some stories about what a shit show that was

Eric Erlandson could play Tom Petty in a biopic.

I remember that tour it did not work out as planned.

I saw the tour in Tampa, minus, hole, and MM put on a good show. I was there to so see Monster Magnet and I wanted to see the "spectacle" that was MM. It looked just like the Claymation Celebrity Death Match with more costume changes. We met Macho Man Randy Savage (RIP) and Rose McGowan at the show.

MM is honest with his fans and with himself... You have to respect that

Saw the aftermath of this tour in Chicago. We were there for Manson anyway (I'd already seen Hole on Lolla) so Courtney was not missed.

I never related to Marilyn Manson or his image or music. To each their own.

Wow did you really censor the mechanical animals cover. There is no nudity. That's sad and disappointing.

Reupload

I was at the show in Portland Oregon at the Rose Garden Arena when it was still brand new. I vaguely remember Courtney Love throwing a tantrum on stage and walking off early. I thought it was weird at the time, but now it all makes sense. That band sucked anyway and I was there for Marilyn Manson. \m/

I was in High School in the 1990’s and Manson’s first album, “Portrait of an American Family” was all the angst, anger, rebelliousness, and emotions I felt as 14-year-old. It also called out a lot of America’s hypocrisies. Then “Antichrist Superstar” came put and I loved that at the time because its pseudo-Satanic imagery just shocked people. (When I later became a Born-Again Christian I stopped listening to Manson). I loved the sounds on both those albums. Then “Mechanical Animals” came out and while it does have some catchy songs, I really didn’t like the direction Manson went on that album and afterwards. Until “Eat Me, Drink Me”.

Was a fan of MM from 1st album til Mechanical Animals.. after which I feel he lost his sound and Oooooomf sadly........... he became popular and that killed him for me

That much unjustified ego can’t exist on one stage

@RockNRollTrueStories Can u please SPEAK LOUDER on your videos. I have the volume cranked on my iphone 12 and i can barely hear u if im out in public watching.

I was at the Vancouver show. Good Times

One of if not the first night was in Spokane Washington. That's the reason it didn't work out.

Crazy that tickets were only $30. Not the biggest fan of either group, but at that price I would have gone.

I was at the Los Angeles show where Manson got hurt. I liked both bands but was there for Manson. I had long hair at the time and was all goth’ed up, died black and red hair, combat boots, I felt fucking powerful and was so excited as this was the first time I was going to see Manson in concert. Hole put on such an amazing set, lots of great stage effects and the production value was a lot higher than I would have expected, which I assumed was her trying to upstage Manson. When Manson’s set began, he came out on this cross made of TVs, and on their 3rd song he was walking around on these goofy stilts, and I swear to god it looked like he took a dive, it looked like such bullshit and I swear he did it just to upstage Courtney. He was over on the right part of the stage, and he just kind of fell but it looked weak. Shit went dark for a while, the lights came on and we were all confused because it didn’t look like he had gotten hurt. We were so pissed, the 2 other songs he put on were amazing but at least Hole and Monster Magnet were awesome.

I saw them on that tour at the University of New Hampshire, Manson got hit by a bottle and stopped the show saying he wasn't gonna continue until we beat the shit out of him.

Can we get a Rock n Roll True Story about the November 1984 Slayer vs SA Slayer show in San Antonio, Tx?

Dave Wyndorf has more talent than both headliners! Love Monster Magnet.

"Called Manson screaming at him for having t!ts on the cover..." FUNNY AF!

I saw them on the same day at the Big Day Out in January '99. Being a Nirvana fan I was more interested in seeing Hole.

I was at this show in Portland. Hole was not very good. They only played a few songs, dropped their confetti and walked off. Courtney Love said fuck you Portland. Manson was incredible...

“On paper it looked like a really great idea”!?! Oh! The one that was torn up, balled up, thrown away; then taken back out of the garbage, and put back together ! ! !

both of these artists (and I use that term loosely) were a curiosity and not substantial, that's why they didn't sell tickets... Take a band like "Cure" they have their core dedicated fans but they also have the radio listeners too and that is who buys most of the tickets

I was there when Manson fell from his stilts as he layed on the floor we knew it was over felt like he was acting

He looks kinda pretty at 1:04...lol

Great video. Thank you!

That doesn't even sound like a good idea in any way...

These two bands show how far rock had fallen by 98.

Manson has done some shitty things over the years, but I have respect for the guy. He doesn't take shit from anybody. For most of his career, he basically forced the hypocrites to look in the mirror, and none of them liked what they saw.

Lol,I was there but HOLE didn't play;great gig, good memories ❤🤘

Why? Because is Marilyn Manson and Curtney Love thogheter

Putting Alanis with Hole together would have made much better sense than Hole with Manson.

Canada's Wonderland booked 2 acts in the same Park, different stages. Iron Maiden and Culture Club! The Fans were segregated upon arrival and leaving by buses.

I was at the show in Tampa waiting to see Hole. I left a Manson Fan.

Does Courtney Love get along with ANYONE?

I always thought that was a weird bill. Mechanical animals took a little time for me to get into but it is a great rock album. I think a lot of the disappointment came from the fact that people were expecting antichrist 2 and he went the opposite direction.

Both great bands but everyone’s brain was completely fried from hard drug use. Even if Courtney was sober as she claimed, she was a total disaster of a human for years before this. Being sober didn’t magically make her level headed. Again I love both bands and they’re both equally wrong. That 90s rock scene was massively into substance abuse so it’s no surprise everything went to shit. They’re all to blame.

I was too young to be a Manson fan in the 90s/early 2000s, but got to see him twice in 2018 and 2019, one of them being the infamous New York show that got cancelled halfway through because he tried to climb a stage prop and it fell over on him. The other time was the joint tour with Rob Zombie and I was struck both times by how.....bored and dispassionate he seemed? It was so disappointing after hearing so much about how great he was live. The production value was very poor, too. Rob Zombie is OLDER than Manson and has toured just as long and he still managed to give his entire heart and soul to putting on a good show. Manson seems worn out and washed up, and it's a shame.

Misery loves Misery

Hipster rock Coachella babies. Yup!

So many good stories here. You got my sub

lot of people in the comments hating on courtney, but i gotta say hole > mm. idk maybe it’s because i never really dug the whole “industrial” sound

I've never liked either band but this video has me intrigued!

I had tickets for this tour and they went splits the stop before my date lol. I sold my tickets and went to see my girlfriend’s soccer game.

I loved both these bands and really wanted to see that tour. Was disappointed when it was cancelled

Monster magnet were the best band on that tour! That said, mechanical animals is a fantastic album.

Yeah I went to see them both on this tour in Florida and hole wasnt there

Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson?

LOL common is anyone going to believe that a 1998 mason needed help to sell out arenas? What a joke. Manson in 1998 was one of the most biggest alt rock stars at that time. This was ether a record labels shitty way to help Love or a publicity stun for both of them.

3:20 The road dog Jesse James

what i wouldn’t give to be a PA on this tour…