Gurdjieff talk on Energy & Sleep 1/30/1923

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"Views from the Real World" read by Debbie Elliott
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0:00 Gurdjieff on Energy 1/30/1923 Prieure
1:03 large muscles consume less energy
2:33 if a man suffers from chronic tension
3:30 we cannot get more energy
4:48 the only way out - economize the energy we have
5:29 a man´s sleep is nothing else than interrupted connections between centers
6:23 Memory, attention, observation is nothing more than observation of one center by another
6:46 deep sleep comes when the connections between centers are broken
7:40 there are different degrees between our waking state and sleep
8:49 Deep states of sleep are the same for all, but intermediate degrees are often subjective
10:07 the purpose of sleep is achieved only when all the connections between the centers are broken
10:25 Deep sleep is a state when we have no dreams or sensations
11:01 if the machine is in good order, it needs very little time to manufacture that quantity of matter for which sleep is intended

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@roadblockk3372
@roadblockk3372 2 жыл бұрын
Finally I got what I want.....😘🙏One of the most precious knowledge....Thank u from bottom of my heart....Plz keep sharing these type of videos.
@amw1london990
@amw1london990 10 ай бұрын
See the film Gurdjieff in Armenia for his teaching and original footage of the Gurdjieff movements: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMuIjbaUq5iadJc.htmlsi=6RHDwfm2ApwQYZ-M
@fabianfase7709
@fabianfase7709 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most powerful statements ever.
@serousetrick
@serousetrick 2 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@777impresso
@777impresso 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Love from Ukraine
@bilbomoondog9429
@bilbomoondog9429 2 жыл бұрын
I hope your ok
@carenkurdjinian5413
@carenkurdjinian5413 2 ай бұрын
Such a Great Interpretation……..🌞
@darshanpandya30
@darshanpandya30 3 жыл бұрын
grateful to U for sharing this conversation 🙏😇
@flushhh4543
@flushhh4543 3 жыл бұрын
How come you searching about gurdjieff?
@SharkFishSF
@SharkFishSF 2 жыл бұрын
@@flushhh4543 I came to know him 8 years ago when I liked his quote in twitter by a fan I believe. I forgot about it, but in the last 3 years I started listening to Nithyananda he talked about him and his methods being intense about enlightenment.
@ALLiiiiiiJun
@ALLiiiiiiJun Жыл бұрын
@@SharkFishSF And Could You Reach To The Self_Awareness ?
@SharkFishSF
@SharkFishSF Жыл бұрын
@@ALLiiiiiiJun what do you by self awareness?
@SharkFishSF
@SharkFishSF Жыл бұрын
@@ALLiiiiiiJun no
@Viv8ldi
@Viv8ldi 2 жыл бұрын
Memo: when u sleep, sleep in such a way that the whole of you sleep
@mysticbubbles123
@mysticbubbles123 3 жыл бұрын
Love it!!!😍
@kannans5253
@kannans5253 3 ай бұрын
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@rob8109
@rob8109 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MastersofWisdom
@MastersofWisdom 4 жыл бұрын
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@Viv8ldi
@Viv8ldi 2 жыл бұрын
Memo: associations are the centers life
@HB-ot9fd
@HB-ot9fd Жыл бұрын
What book is this from? Is there a book for his talks/lectures. I have read all the books from Ouspensky.
@BostonbredNE
@BostonbredNE 3 ай бұрын
The best book to give you an overlook of his entire system is in search of the miraculous by one of his students PD Ouspenski
@999titu
@999titu 3 жыл бұрын
Wow
@flushhh4543
@flushhh4543 3 жыл бұрын
How did you come to know about gurdjieff
@999titu
@999titu 3 жыл бұрын
@@flushhh4543 , from a book by Osho the great.
@flushhh4543
@flushhh4543 3 жыл бұрын
@@999titu okay
@gurug9797
@gurug9797 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbnail is Bill Bailey
@nancyrode9781
@nancyrode9781 2 жыл бұрын
🙋💛🙏
@Bavubuka
@Bavubuka 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to the excercises he mentioned? 🙏
@itskersitime5080
@itskersitime5080 2 жыл бұрын
This is an excerpt from in “search of the miraculous” by PD Ouspensky, Chapter 8. The book is amazing, has a ton of these exercises & techniques and is a foundation of Gurdjieffs teachings (the same woman reads the book on KZfaq, you can find it free online or buy a cheap copy). It’s a difficult text to interpret, but hit google and look for a local Gurdjieff group in your area to get more info and insight into his philosophy and what it means. Feel free to reach out with any questions 👍🏿
@999repliesfrom4
@999repliesfrom4 2 жыл бұрын
@@itskersitime5080 pls share link
@999repliesfrom4
@999repliesfrom4 2 жыл бұрын
@@itskersitime5080 i experience when I do exercise I get more energy and remain energetic
@YashSingh-mr9dz
@YashSingh-mr9dz 2 жыл бұрын
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@YashSingh-mr9dz
@YashSingh-mr9dz 2 жыл бұрын
@@999repliesfrom4 👆
@DrakeFang1
@DrakeFang1 2 жыл бұрын
What are these exercises he speaks of at the end? I'm curious to know.
@user-nr7jg1io6u
@user-nr7jg1io6u 2 жыл бұрын
IF I FIND I GOT YOU
@DrakeFang1
@DrakeFang1 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-nr7jg1io6u thanks!!
@MastersofWisdom
@MastersofWisdom Жыл бұрын
muscle relaxation exercises - this is taught in Gurdjieff Work groups
@chickenlover657
@chickenlover657 8 ай бұрын
@@MastersofWisdom So describe one.
@MastersofWisdom
@MastersofWisdom 8 ай бұрын
@@chickenlover657 check J.G. Bennett´s book "Transformation", there you will find 2 versions of G´s muscle relaxation exercise.
@nancyrode9781
@nancyrode9781 2 жыл бұрын
👁👁 witness
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 2 жыл бұрын
🥀🌱💛😀
@maximilianbohme1556
@maximilianbohme1556 Жыл бұрын
Hello
@etunimisukunimi5890
@etunimisukunimi5890 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the exercises to reduce unnecessary tension are that are mentioned in the end?
@cgfreeandeasy
@cgfreeandeasy 4 жыл бұрын
Dont know, what he means or says. But there is a other method to fall in sleep for night: take sufficient dopamin-inhibitor Otherwise we know many about those Exercices for the consciousness-states and full body-States: Meditate practice to slow down the consciousness to an state, wherein nothing more is then sense or to feel you self and the environment. No time, no space, no appropriation - only sense in time - not over time onto - the art of that is, to hold up the moment and did not let end this consciousness-stream, which is the moment self. Some of the best thought in this stream is the Alignment to the universe out there - but not things on earth (only water) - do not substantiate something - let all flow, but in one stream and do not think about it. feel it
@sarmoun706
@sarmoun706 4 жыл бұрын
a muscle relaxation exercise - you can find one described in J.G. Bennett´s book "Transformation" - it is taught in Gurdjieff groups as a preparation for other exercises
@cgfreeandeasy
@cgfreeandeasy 4 жыл бұрын
Or a good cannabis-binge....intoxication. By that, it can both happend: acutely, strong tension or...when it is the good turn: fantastic relaxation - untill full loose of Ego and appropriation - it is a thing of your courage, how far you can go with this manipulation tro let go all egos and appropriation. And a thing of the warmth and security of your immediate environment. In Cannabis-binge, yóu can explore the possibility of your individual bandwidth: how wide is the difference between your two extremes. And how you can manipulate it. Because under cannabis-intoxication, you can easier manipulate yourself in the both direction: to relaxation and to the strong tension.
@SocietyOfTheSpectacl
@SocietyOfTheSpectacl 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of unnecessary tension is caused by a lack of excercise. all 3 centres need to be balanced. you will find more here, archive.org/stream/TheTheoryOfCelestialInfluence/The%20Theory%20of%20Celestial%20Influence_djvu.txt
@matthewbellis8620
@matthewbellis8620 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps if you are very restless then conventional meditation is of little benefit currently, try osho dynamic meditation.. it is cathartic and you will be able to attain to samadhi if you have exerted yourself prior, failing that do circuit training or some hard physical training to release the daily built up tension... I also used holosync binural beats 🎧 in my early days really helped.
@Viv8ldi
@Viv8ldi 2 жыл бұрын
Memo: practise „energy-economy“
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 2 жыл бұрын
🌸🌱💙🤔
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr 3 жыл бұрын
Energy is channeled by prayers and declaration to God, then you live how you want in God. Energy declared in God changes reality.
@Viv8ldi
@Viv8ldi 2 жыл бұрын
Can you proof that God exists? Are you familiar with the forth way?
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Viv8ldi I am familiar with all religion inclusive of all new age deception. The self cannot influence uncontrolled events that fall under the adversary’s rule at which point necessitate God’s intervention. inner work can only be complete by the creator of self, who is Jesus Christ. All progress has its foundation in its omnipresent master Jesus Christ. No religion can come close to His works. All nations that succumb to the rule of the anti-Christ through various entities fail. Even those nations founded on Christ as the most successful America are victim to the corruption of the adversary once portals are opened in the adversary’s. Hell to all religion.
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr 2 жыл бұрын
@@Viv8ldi yes God exists the proof is in man’s ability to believe of his existence and to distinguish His works from that of his adversary. For as the Jews saw they STILL did not believe and most still don’t even suffer. Blessed are those who have believed yet not seen.
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr 2 жыл бұрын
There is ONLY ONE WAY. Only One God has ever said that He is the way the truth and the life. A creation cannot exist without its creator.
@NeuzaOnofrio
@NeuzaOnofrio 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know only one thing: all these people that already died waiting on Him, what happened? They put all their effort on Him to be protected, they died who knows how, and then what? 🤔
@Dedicated_.1
@Dedicated_.1 2 ай бұрын
This is read in such a monotone straight fashion that it’s so easy to lose focus. Intonation, dynamics, speed needed.
@duaaabdullah8179
@duaaabdullah8179 6 ай бұрын
لا إله إلا الله، محمدا رسول الله كل شيء في الكون يدل على وجوده بداية من خلقك، تفكر وتأمل في نفسك وفي كل ماحولك تصل لحقيقة أنه هناك إله واحد
@cgfreeandeasy
@cgfreeandeasy 4 жыл бұрын
Since the EEG-measurmend we can measure the Sleep- or wake-State precisly, or not? If there are humans, they walk in fúll-sleep-Mode? Ok, there are sleepwalker. But they are special cases. If i measure a eminently dement person, would i measure a sleeping Human?
@SocietyOfTheSpectacl
@SocietyOfTheSpectacl 4 жыл бұрын
try Maurice Bucke for an interesting view on the evolution of states of conciousness, His work was recommended by ouspensky, www.sacred-texts.com/eso/cc/index.htm
@SuperAmazingAnt
@SuperAmazingAnt 2 жыл бұрын
wtf you are even asking.
@nocapitals9833
@nocapitals9833 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperAmazingAnt 🤣
@hardeepkaur2753
@hardeepkaur2753 3 жыл бұрын
Respect and honours human be humanity journey souls journey honour Master mind global prayers world heaven on earth global prayers
@flushhh4543
@flushhh4543 3 жыл бұрын
How did you come to know about gurdjieff
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
@Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus.
@lorenapasquetti8627
@lorenapasquetti8627 2 жыл бұрын
Niente sottotitoli in italiano? Non conosco l'inglese...
@thevisceralhag
@thevisceralhag 2 жыл бұрын
😖☹
@lorenapasquetti8627
@lorenapasquetti8627 2 жыл бұрын
@@thevisceralhag 🌷👩‍🏭
@lorenapasquetti8627
@lorenapasquetti8627 2 жыл бұрын
@@thevisceralhag vi voglio bene lo stesso!♥️
@thevisceralhag
@thevisceralhag 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you're able to find some good Gurdjieff info✌♥️☯️!!!
@NeuzaOnofrio
@NeuzaOnofrio 2 жыл бұрын
Web browse: Gurdjeff italian
@mariajolantapiskorowska3152
@mariajolantapiskorowska3152 4 ай бұрын
Wiedza zaprzedaje 100 lat
@Dedicated_.1
@Dedicated_.1 2 ай бұрын
I find these videos frustrating, feels like he says a lot without really explaining much practically. Any advice on how to reapproach these ideas ?
@DendriticFractals
@DendriticFractals 19 күн бұрын
Read a book about them
@stevebb2915
@stevebb2915 6 ай бұрын
Grateful for the vid, but reading on gurdjieff, he never seems to explain "how" to actually do anything. Techniques to help is wake up. granted I havent done a massively deep dive.
@yungkaty9862
@yungkaty9862 5 ай бұрын
He puts the problems in front of us, he asks all to figure out on our own how to fix these problems, for his way of fixing his problems will not work for you and me, just as my way to solve my problems will not work for you. Simply we must awaken ourselves, by ourselves. Gurdjieff tells us how to find our problems, not how to fix them, purposefully. Thats why his ideas are important, but why they arent main stream, youre not handed the answer, you have to find the answer on your own.
@stevebb2915
@stevebb2915 5 ай бұрын
@@yungkaty9862 sounds like moving round in circles then tbh, i'd rather something more direct and pro active. i KNOW my problems. I'd rather someone help me overcome them with some basic direction at least. if he leaves you to it, whats the point of studying his work in the first place?
@Dedicated_.1
@Dedicated_.1 2 ай бұрын
completely agree. I hate responses like the one he gave you. It’s just classic justifying things that are issues.
@rafangpi
@rafangpi 3 жыл бұрын
people have two connections others have seven... what the fuck is he talking about.....
@PM_____
@PM_____ 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@AstroLuck23
@AstroLuck23 2 жыл бұрын
Chakras ...you are asleep. now you will wake up from the slumber of your consciousness.
@gratefulkm
@gratefulkm 2 жыл бұрын
Able and Cain, Ganesh and Murugun,, Ying and Yang You will notice that only one of the stories , does one kill the other , what that means is there are a complete load of total deluded looneys out there, that are pretending the lower brain does not exist !!! Utter insanity
@pomegranateorange7450
@pomegranateorange7450 Жыл бұрын
@@AstroLuck23 i have 4
@MastersofWisdom
@MastersofWisdom Жыл бұрын
the different centers of man - 3 centers - 5 centers - 7 centers - read Ousepensky "In Search of the Miraculous" for clarification
@maximilianbohme1556
@maximilianbohme1556 Жыл бұрын
Fortnite 😊
@roadblockk3372
@roadblockk3372 Жыл бұрын
Book name ???plz
@MastersofWisdom
@MastersofWisdom Жыл бұрын
Gurdjieff - Views from the Real World
@roadblockk3372
@roadblockk3372 Жыл бұрын
@@MastersofWisdom Thanks a lot!! Can you tell me where I get this book?
@MastersofWisdom
@MastersofWisdom Жыл бұрын
@@roadblockk3372 you can find the Ebook online for free - the full title is VIEWS FROM THE REAL WORLD, EARLY TALKS OF GURDJIEFF - full Audiobook is here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o-Bxqstp1auYp2Q.html
@MastersofWisdom
@MastersofWisdom Жыл бұрын
@@roadblockk3372 another published version with more content is titled: Gurdjieff's Early Talks 1914-1931: In Moscow, St. Petersburg, Essentuki, Tiflis, Constantinople, Berlin, Paris, London, Fontainebleau, New York, and Chicago
@roadblockk3372
@roadblockk3372 7 ай бұрын
​@@MastersofWisdomThanks...!❤
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