Specialized Stumpjumper 15 Pro Tech Check - Brilliant evolution or fundamentally flawed?

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14 күн бұрын

Specialized claim their 15th Stumpjumper is 'One bike to rule all trails'. I'll talk you through how they've tried to achieve this, whether it's hype or reality and also reveal the controversial frame feature that's got a lot of people raging.
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@milktop1 12 күн бұрын

I never wanted to like specialized but I’ve owned a 2020 endure and now a 2022 evo. I’m a lifer! The evo is the best bike I’ve ever ridden by far

@thegriff9425 12 күн бұрын

I have the 2022 EVO as does one of my mates who I ride with. Neither of us was ever happy with the rear end on our bike until we installed both the cascade link and a fox X2 shock. It transformed the bike into how we both thought it should feel. The standard set up on the EVO blew through its travel under the lightest of impacts and installation of volume reducers made it harsh. We could never figure out how so many people were happy with the rear end. Now with 158mm out back and the 160 fork tuned properly the bike feels great and properly balanced.

@YanDoroshenko 12 күн бұрын

Funny. I have a 2022 Evo as well and I'm ecstatic about how the rear suspension feels. I've got the largest token installed with relatively low pressure and it gives me splendid traction while also only bottoming out when I do something stupid or botch the landing. The bike I had before was YT Capra with 160mm rear travel, lots of progression and a Fox X2. I never liked how it felt.

@kevinsmidt 12 күн бұрын

You can see an aluminum version with a mechanical drivetrain in the promo videos from specialized. Until that comes out, I’ll be riding my 22 Evo Alloy happily.

@adamgroves2811 12 күн бұрын

Looks sweet, hopefully the Alloy version has cable routing for the rear mech.

@GuyKesTV 11 күн бұрын

@@adamgroves2811 it does: Apparently 😜

@MasterChronometer 12 күн бұрын

I always liked the idea of flexstays it’s a shame they couldn’t work it into the bike. I like the idea of fewer bearings to replace.

@Barryens 10 күн бұрын

Surely this frame being wireless only means we can expect a Shimano wireless groupset immently ?!

@fudganuld 12 күн бұрын

You know the saying..''if it ain't broke...''...Ha ! I like the Comp version with the new s1000 groupset..!

@YanDoroshenko 12 күн бұрын

I liked the old SWAT door better. Seems way less flimsy to me and I've never had an issue with it leaking or something after pressure washing the bike.

@FOTB407 12 күн бұрын

there were issues with the asymmetrical side arm, the yoke, and coil shocks. i assume now there won’t be any since one of the specs comes with ohlins voil

@GuyKesTV 12 күн бұрын

@@FOTB407 hopefully

@TheMirrorVision 11 күн бұрын

Larger riders like me wish more bike frames in this travel range and up came stock with 200mm post-mount brackets. The fewer adapters we need to use the better!

@TheMirrorVision 11 күн бұрын

The problem may also be that the Mavens with 200mm rotors and the stock quieter/less powerful pads are too much rear brake for smaller/lighter riders.

@crt269 12 күн бұрын

I don't know why, but dark green bikes look awesome...............

@troymortimer3487 3 күн бұрын

Every review is talking about the genie and how good it is. Given there is a Olin’s coil option I wonder if the genie really is as good as marketing says. Charles Murray obviously sponsored by rockshox was happy with the super deluxe not even the vivid, which is more linear and apparently closer to what the genie is meant to do. If you watch his video he does testing and doesn’t need to modify shock at all. So I’m calling bullshit on this genie.

@Andy-co6pn 13 күн бұрын

So many air shock developments have claimed "Coil like" feel I've become numb to it now 😕

@GuyKesTV 12 күн бұрын

@@Andy-co6pn fair enough, this is definitely the closest though

@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293 13 күн бұрын

No doubt 15 is a great bike, so does at least dozen bikes on the market. Wireless Shimano incoming!

@Whyusadd 3 күн бұрын

We’ll see how Charlie Murray does on this… interesting how he has ditched the enduro?

@joe-dm6vj 10 күн бұрын

there is no doubt that its a great bike and probably better and more versatile than the old one but 6,500eur for the cheapest one is ridiculous the old alloy ones were some of the best budget bikes

@frotto 13 күн бұрын

first? haha... I really was hoping to get the new stumpy... but I wanted the 150-160 suspension travel the EVO had... I also don't want batteries on my bike... and I don't want I proprietary shock. Now I'm looking at a YT Jeffsy or maybe wait for the new generation of the Devinci Troy... or maybe a Trance X?

@patrickkatzmair 13 күн бұрын

Hightower?

@marksandoval5361 13 күн бұрын

Right now the old Stumpy Evo's are on sell for ~35% off. My local shop has $6300 Expert's on sale for $4000.

@OldSaul 13 күн бұрын

Bronson is a blast.

@roddas26 10 күн бұрын

It's not a proprietary shock.

@LaurentiusTriarius 12 күн бұрын

I think it looks a bit generic. That's probably the main gripe since the outgoing one was "spechial" ... For me it's just too expensive and I would wait to see if that shock holds up.

@GuyKesTV 12 күн бұрын

@@LaurentiusTriarius wise move

@bookingstation 12 күн бұрын

Does look like the big S have gone for a frame that is cheap to produce.

@marksandoval5361 13 күн бұрын

Because the new Stumpy doesn't come stock with a 160mm fork or mechanical drivetrains, I give it a big thumbs down. The new shock looks interesting however. The old Stumpy Evo is probably a better bike and right now the old Stumpy Evo's are selling for ~35% off. An amazing bargain!

@GuyKesTV 12 күн бұрын

@@marksandoval5361 yep, be quick though as sizes are limited

@derSebov 10 күн бұрын

Exactly the same thoughts. Had a custom Stumpy Evo with Cascade and EXT Storia V3 before. Shock: oh no proprietary nonsense, but after some review and thoughts I am really interested! But I like mechanical shifting ( grab the bike, maybe check tire pressure, forget the rest of the „peeping“ world) and a 160 fork. For this reason the reach should be slightly longer as well, was already a bit short for me

@StevenEliuk 9 күн бұрын

Stumpy EVO is nervous when pushed and overly stiff on repeated hits. I do think it is a great single bike but many items have been fixed with the new model.

@Dav1dChui 7 күн бұрын

Depends on where you ride. I'd stay this SJ is better suited for climbing, but I'd definitely prefer my SJevo when descending gnarlier stuff.

@kinch04 12 күн бұрын

cant help but thinking my stump evo is a better bike if i put this new fancy shock on it....

@GuyKesTV 12 күн бұрын

@@kinch04 unfortunately the new shock is too fat for the sidearm frame. But if you’re happy with how your Evo rides anyway there’s no need to upgrade

@kinch04 12 күн бұрын

@@GuyKesTV that's good info thanks!

@thegriff9425 12 күн бұрын

@@GuyKesTVis it bigger than a Fox X2?

@GTS5691 11 күн бұрын

What was the rationale behind the decision not to make provision for mechanical drivetrains? Given the marginal, additional cost, why would you not cover all your bases? Is this arrogance or stupidity on behalf of Specialized? For me this is a deal breaker. "I won't be investing".

@GuyKesTV 11 күн бұрын

@@GTS5691 I guess they wanted cleaner looks. It does save some hassle with bonding an extra routing pipe through the frame, but as you say it’s got to be minimal.

@user-xvikol-635 13 күн бұрын

Sick looking bike. Specialized knows.

@rmhfpv9225 12 күн бұрын

This new design screams post covid money saving production. It’s backwards, reduces their inventory, manufacturing costs and gives them something new to market.

@GuyKesTV 12 күн бұрын

@@rmhfpv9225 totally, the biggest problem brands have is too many different models. Specialized have gone from four different moulds from XC to Trail/Enduro to two. That’s just very smart thinking.

@andrefrederico162 11 күн бұрын

Electronic only frame is the only meh I can point at the new Stumpjumper. And although the electronic groupsets seem to be the norm, specially with the new trickled down AXS mech, you should still be able to set up this beast with mechanical groupset. If the Genie shock holds up and is free of problems, this bike is just right for everyone… with a large wallet.

@allenserfass5312 12 күн бұрын

Stumpy EVO with a different shock. Not evolutionary..

@Tequila628 13 күн бұрын

And people wonder why I call them applelized and hate them so much. Great review though! Genie is ugly, but works amazing I take it.

@YanDoroshenko 12 күн бұрын

Why would anyone make a trail bike that can only be run as a single speed?

@IIISentorIII 12 күн бұрын

???

@YanDoroshenko 12 күн бұрын

@@IIISentorIII There's no routing for a derailleur cable. No derailleur - single speed.

@joe-dm6vj 10 күн бұрын

@@YanDoroshenko sram axs wireless shifting only

@jamessher6956 12 күн бұрын

Hardtails rule, 👎👎 to this crap.

@juanhidalgo7043 12 күн бұрын

The problem is no mechanical option and this bike compare to the EVO is weak. Specialized has gone to a cheaper way of producing bikes to cut costs due to COVID 19 and the struggles they are having. For me, the stumpjumper 15 is still the regular stumpjumper. If you want the evo version you need to go to the specialized enduro. Like me, I am happy with my yeti sb140 and my yeti sb160. I cannot go back to any other bike. They are better bikes out there for less money.