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The Most Unique Water Well System Ever Seen! 80 Year Old Electric Well Pump! Trying to Update it.

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In this video My Brother and I work on a near Century old water well that has an Electric powered Pitcher Pump. Although the job doesn't go our way, it was still nice to get out & spend time together working on a system like we used to do many years ago. From a Viewers perspective it's just 2 guys working on a well, but for me it was so much more.
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@ford2n2003
@ford2n2003 8 ай бұрын
It's a rod pump. A wooden rod runs down the center of the pipe and operates a piston pump at the bottom of the pipe. The small broken plunger was an air pump to charge the water tank. An air release on the tank would keep it from becoming air bound. These pumps were very common as deep well pumps from the early 1900's until the 1960's, The part cut out was the check valve to prevent water backflow to the well.
@dnitchke
@dnitchke 8 ай бұрын
you are absolutely correct11
@ThatGuyFromArizona
@ThatGuyFromArizona 8 ай бұрын
This right here is what I love about this channel. There is so much knowledge and people happy to share.
@dennislee444
@dennislee444 8 ай бұрын
nope
@jasonschannel9017
@jasonschannel9017 8 ай бұрын
​@@dennislee444That's not much of an argument.
@northface484
@northface484 8 ай бұрын
LOL...!!@@dennislee444
@rex8255
@rex8255 8 ай бұрын
Let's give props to current and previous owners, who kept up the oil level AND passed on the information of how to do it.
@stepheneskelson7774
@stepheneskelson7774 8 ай бұрын
Just pull the pipe out, change out the leathers and the bottom screen, reseal the threads, put in a new rod, some guide sleeves, put back down the hole and set it right, it'll last another 75 years.
@funnycatvideos5490
@funnycatvideos5490 8 ай бұрын
They don't know how to do that it's before their time so they basically disabled it and now they have nothing
@kevinroberts9394
@kevinroberts9394 8 ай бұрын
Looked like it was working fine. Just needed to repack the rod seal. The leathers were obviously still good as it pumped up. And it is really hard to pull good leathers. Don't see many of his videos but if his dad is still around he should remember pump Jack's and sucker rod. Last 1 I worked on we pulled over 200 ft of wooden rods. 1 broke and after changing the leathers 3 more times we learned that you have to put it back to the exact same depth in the smooth part of the casing or it will tear the leathers up in a day that jack is not as old as you may think if it is more than 25 foot deep a more reliable system that would have ran almost forever if properly maintained a couple times a year.
@ronblack7870
@ronblack7870 8 ай бұрын
@@kevinroberts9394 customer wanted more volume i bet . 30yrs ago i was in the exact same situation put our rod could be pulled out. 80 ft. it was only 2 inch pump. used 1/2 inch pipe as the pull rod. couldn't get enough water for modern living. maybe 1-2 gal / minute tops
@Auto-Tech-Matt
@Auto-Tech-Matt 2 ай бұрын
If you watch till the end of the video he explains why the homeowner wanted a new well pump. It's an air bnb. That's why he was changing it out. So it could be easily serviced and sanitized.
@GW71093
@GW71093 Ай бұрын
I knew there’d be people in the comments complaining that they should have rebuilt this horrible contraption lol. Easy to say when you aren’t doing it, paying for it, or relying on it for your house.
@stanleyedwards3023
@stanleyedwards3023 8 ай бұрын
Early Gould pump jacks used leather seals, these pumps dated back to the 30’s. Gould still makes quality pumps, my Dad was on board of directors many years ago.
@lancereagan3046
@lancereagan3046 8 ай бұрын
I used to install and service Goulds Pumps back in the early/mid 1980's.
@BCHonea
@BCHonea 8 ай бұрын
I love how comments on KZfaq bring historical connections like this. Cheers to your pops
@kd5crw
@kd5crw 8 ай бұрын
They make most of them cheap in China now. Motors too. Sad to see another once good company selling junk and coasting on their name.
@Look_What_You_Did
@Look_What_You_Did 8 ай бұрын
It's just a name today. Another brand purchased by investment firms and gutted.
@markarca6360
@markarca6360 8 ай бұрын
It was acquired by another company called Xylem.
@davidmark805
@davidmark805 8 ай бұрын
That pump needs to be restored and put on display.
@marvlb
@marvlb 8 ай бұрын
We had a sucker rod pump exactly like that growing up on our farm in the 50’s. The leather seals would wear out and we would have to pull the rods. Each rod was about 12 feet long made of cypress cut into a one inch triangle with metal connectors screwed to each end that were screwed together to connect the rods. On one pull my dad lost grip on the rod and it fell into the well. He made hook out of a steel rod and ground a barb on the tip. We fished for the lost pump rod for hours and finally got and the lost rods out. I was so happy to see that rod come up out of the well, I must have been seven or eight years old at the time.
@metallchips8569
@metallchips8569 8 ай бұрын
I have been machining for 20 years and spent several servicing water pumps for Municipals and Agriculture and goulds pumps are still in business. That pump should go to a museum.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 8 ай бұрын
The chunk you threw down was the check valve. The sucker rod with the pump on the bottom should have come out by pulling on it. That is the way those pumps were supposed to be fixed or releathered. The numbers on the casting side is the pattern number for the casting instead of a date. Our house in MI had a reciprocating piston pump so the water level was less than 25 feet.
@ronblack7870
@ronblack7870 8 ай бұрын
i had one 80 ft deep
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 8 ай бұрын
You are limited to about 25 feet only if you have a suction pump, which that pump isn't. I don't know why you were unable to pull out the lift rod. The pump was lifting water, as proven by it building pressure in the water tank, so the piston at the bottom was free. It may be that there is corrosion above and below the area the piston contacts - it wouldn't take a lot to jamb the pipe.
@austinlloyd9757
@austinlloyd9757 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you a modern pump in 80 years will be fkd every😅5 t 7 years and then replace with more rubbish
@snicks50
@snicks50 8 ай бұрын
I have the same pump on my milk house. I was told it was 92 years old not sure. But still works as of today.
@lancereagan3046
@lancereagan3046 8 ай бұрын
I bet Goulds/ ITT Corp. would love to have that pump mechanism in their museum. Or even the Seneca Falls Historical Society.
@beingthere597
@beingthere597 8 ай бұрын
I remember that pump and the gawoosh-gawoosh sound it made. When I was a little kid (early 1950's) my grandparents had an insulated pump house on their farm that also served as a root cellar for my grandmother's canned vegetables and jellies. Big green-tint glass mason jars. The door to the pump house was thick and heavy and it was dark inside. I was really scared of that pump. Sometimes when it was quiet, I would crack the door and peek in for an adrenaline rush. When it came on, I would jump out of my skin, slam the door and run, hoping that monster wouldn't break free and chase me.
@superskunkygrow
@superskunkygrow Ай бұрын
man oh man to be a kid again 😂😂😂😂
@jeffwxyz
@jeffwxyz 8 ай бұрын
Took something out that lasted 80 years and still working. It will be lucky if a new pump lasts 8 years.
@phenry5083
@phenry5083 5 ай бұрын
Good thing modern pumps have no problems lasting 50 years
@brando12343
@brando12343 5 ай бұрын
you can easily get 25+ years out of a quality modern pump
@kevamor
@kevamor 21 күн бұрын
But why take one that that will outlast any new pump even after already used for 80 years? Should just rebuild all that in there, new seals fix that rod and get another 80 years.
@raxorlp9932
@raxorlp9932 21 күн бұрын
@@brando12343 idk about that ^^
@rupe53
@rupe53 6 күн бұрын
@@kevamor The biggest problem with the old pump is it will NOT supply water at a rate suitable for today's demands. It was installed long before people had hot showers, flush toilets, and washing machines. Matter of fact, I doubt the well yield can keep up with a family of four, which will be over 400 gallons a day at today's standard.
@chatrkat
@chatrkat 8 ай бұрын
This is probably your most interesting service call, but I always enjoy watching your videos. That old equipment is further proof how good old American machinery was made back when companies cared to, and could afford to built quality products. Most likely original capacitor on that Wagner motor too.
@tomgroenbeck7620
@tomgroenbeck7620 8 ай бұрын
My grandfather installed a hand operated well on his property around 1960 with a similar mechanism. The well was 90m deep, the water was around 18m below ground. They lowered a 4" pump cylinder on 1 1/4" galvanized pipe about 24m deep into an 8" well. The piston inside the cylinder was connected by a 3/8" rod to an arm at the top. You could buy these cast iron pumps in the hardware store, they were intended for water depths about 3m, with our setup it was extremely hard to pump (I as a kid was unable to push the arm down, I wasn't heavy enough). Later my dad converted to a submersible 3-phase pump with 4" diameter, we installed a 5" plastic casing inside and filled the gap with pea gravel. Still providing water for the lawn today. I came from Germany, so the house has 400V 3-phase power (230V per phase), and no fancy electronics box, just an old fashioned pressure switch with 3 contacts instead of 2.
@w124mercedes7
@w124mercedes7 8 ай бұрын
That old gould pump will probably outlast 2 modern pumps and around 80 years old now. American made used to mean something. America built products that were built to last and be serviced. I have a refrigerator and deep freezer built in the 30s and both work like new. We have a gas stove from the 30s and a pair of gas parlor stoves we use for heat and both work great. Everything was salvaged from. An old mansion and we're totally restored. You cant buy that kind of quality and reliability anymore. I restored cars for over 35 years and restored a 1953 caddilac and after we were done we were amazed how cold the ac system was in that car. On a 110 deg day the ac would freeze you out. Its a shame American made Isn't what it used to be. We used to build the best looking cars and now we build over priced plastic junk . Truly a shame.
@NemoBlank
@NemoBlank 8 ай бұрын
@@w124mercedes7 Hedge fund traitors and crooked politicians saw a way to get rich selling the rest of us out.
@vickchester4285
@vickchester4285 8 ай бұрын
My dad built a pump system using a similar sucker rod pump It was very reliable, and used an electric pump to drive pump. This brought back some very fond and distant memories of my Dad and me working on and maintaining our pump system.
@Mr_Meowingtons
@Mr_Meowingtons 20 күн бұрын
that belongs in a museum!
@dwightblack9881
@dwightblack9881 21 күн бұрын
My grandmother had one just like that. When that pump started, it brought back a flood of memories. Thanks
@johndenton5555
@johndenton5555 20 күн бұрын
Made back when things were made to work properly, to last, and to be repairable. That pump is so cool! would be fun to rebuild it!
@ocsrc
@ocsrc 17 күн бұрын
That belongs in a museum. I wish we had a well museum in America that would ask for these systems and other 70+ year old systems
@heroslippy6666
@heroslippy6666 13 күн бұрын
It'd be amazing to see a bunch of ancient pumps setup and maintained to keep on running like they originally did.
@user-wn8mg2jh1d
@user-wn8mg2jh1d 8 ай бұрын
This thing is Amazing and still working 80 yrs later . I agree with you I would want to keep it as well.
@barryriem3216
@barryriem3216 3 ай бұрын
My grandparents had one. no tank. just a knife switch on the wall. throw it on and out came rusty water. today you pumped tomorrows water. we let it slake off over night. the rust would settle on the bottom. we were left with cool sweet water. I also had one years later. it was my older pump that did not work. some oakum a belt and some grease and it was better water than my newer well. I have not heard that sound in many, many years. what a cool sound. thank you...kind of made me think of hot biscuits out of the wood fired oven...Man Man
@patrickjordan7670
@patrickjordan7670 22 күн бұрын
This is the second time I've watched this and I'm fascinated by that old pump how it keept working for so long they don't make them like that anymore I never miss your videos iv got a 290ft well here in rural Ireland myself iv pulled the pump up a couple of times in the last 25 years I'm dreading the next time it happens I'm nearly 70 not as strong as I used to be
@HardDriveGuruOfficial
@HardDriveGuruOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Thank heavens this equipment is being kept in a collection! Losing such a beautiful peace of history would hurt my heart something fierce.
@rocarroll1533
@rocarroll1533 8 ай бұрын
Serviced these deepwell pumps for 45 odd years,many different brands,Anderson, Mcewens,Davies etc,if you didnt have a wind mill you usually had a deep well plunger pump ,not much else before submersibles came into play bar ram style pumps
@GrymWorks-A.I.
@GrymWorks-A.I. 8 ай бұрын
The Wagner motor Model G902 K4180 The model # is *G902* The rest is a date code *K=November* *44=1944* *80=8th day* So, Wednesday November 8, 1944
@MrWolfSnack
@MrWolfSnack 8 ай бұрын
Wow built during the height of WW2. Just 3 days after that motor left the assembly line, the Allied troops bombed Iwo Jima. On the specific day it was made, Joseph Goebbels announced the V-2 rocket campaign.
@kittyfanatic1980
@kittyfanatic1980 4 ай бұрын
I get k4180 no real way to tell without it right in front of me if that last digit is a 1 or 4
@GrymWorks-A.I.
@GrymWorks-A.I. 4 ай бұрын
@@kittyfanatic1980Thats what I said.
@paulmaxwell8851
@paulmaxwell8851 8 ай бұрын
That is the coolest old setup I've ever seen. If it were mine I'd definitely restore it to like new.
@macdude3585
@macdude3585 5 ай бұрын
Out with the good in with the Garbage
@KC2ATE
@KC2ATE 8 ай бұрын
I worked at Goulds in Seneca Falls for about 20 years. Neat to see old equipment still in use.
@bartdaw6681
@bartdaw6681 8 ай бұрын
Old systems work, physics doesn’t change over time, just our understanding of it. I still like my jet pump setup at our cabin.
@wvwildlifecam9159
@wvwildlifecam9159 8 ай бұрын
When something is way over than you and never seen one before. Its best to leave it alone. The antiques were made to last.
@tommystarcher6982
@tommystarcher6982 8 сағат бұрын
Of course it still works! Everything they built back then was built to work for decades and decades
@donaldswett6210
@donaldswett6210 8 ай бұрын
Was a pretty common way to convert from windmill to electric pump using old sucker rod system. This being when rural electric power came to be. These old pumpjacks still show up in farm sales up here in the northern midwest.
@Chisos1
@Chisos1 8 ай бұрын
My aunt was still using her well with a pump jack up until she passed away 10 years ago. I still have the original windmill the jack replaced.
@aaronbrandenburg2441
@aaronbrandenburg2441 8 ай бұрын
Pump jack is the proper term for the device Shirley Coleman for converting a wind-driven pump AKA windmill operated pump such as these two Electric and yes on the world notification leading to this being converted to Electric Power. Once saw an old systemware firm power had been used as in DC low voltage surprisingly pretty much all the receptacles from the same as well as bulb bases so just be aware out there if you have some antique electrical equipment of various types and other devices check the voltage and sometimes things may be DC only as well. I was call bus and wanted and moved into a farm and what kind of baffled no power they could not find any indication that there was a connection to the grid but clearly at one point there was electricity and of course no meter nor normal service entrance. Even in ancient Antiquated one at all. However there was Warren running all over the place. Was checking things out where there was little white picture just looked in there add the bulb and said aha ha. Salsa appliances said ditto and so on right down to the old Kirby vacuum in the closet. Everything there was designed ran off low voltage DC. And was going around various places of the property shine my flashlight name of the outbuildings and said well there's your service entrance basically a big fuse board literally not even a fuse box just something that looks like more like out of Frankenstein not necessarily typical for the system but every once in a while you can see something like this apparently according to some old guys that still knew about this headband over the years. It was what was referred to as farm power I think it was 40 some odd bowls cannot remember what the voltage usually is. Don't think it was 36 but might have been at one point And the old batteries were still there even some of them still had acid in them! Glass jar lead acid batteries! There was a gasoline generator as well apparently that one was equipped for automatic start the thing is there were batteries but it is could be run by just turning on a load in the generator starting and of course topping up the batteries while in use the idea on that system was the batteries could be used without having the generator run constantly sometimes the generator was just ran by itself and other times it was a combination of batteries and in various different setups. By the way that place also had an acetylene generator for carbine lighting it looked as though they had used both not sure which was first or that originally it was gas but some of the fixtures had both Gas and Electric it's possible some of this was pre-wired for the system before it was installed don't know the full history of the place. For example the kitchens and acetylene gas stove that would have been run from the acetylene lighting plant did the settling generator was in a separate outbuilding that was essentially a big concrete box some people thought these were actually a storm shelter and in many cases were used for this after the system for the assembling lighting plant in head removed for good. Another interesting system that was on the property was using the some people call it Airgas but I'm not sure of the proper term for this. Essentially an underground giant enormous carburetor apparently would have wicks in there to get gasoline to pay for us and there would be some sort of lower possibly a Roots blower in some cases what are would be pumped into there and then the resulting air in fuel vapor what's my back and used for lighting. There was no connection as far as I know to the house with this but there was some stuff that was capped off maybe the acetylene have been used for one part and the other for another or one system superseded the other but I'm feeling they're both working around the same time period and there was a bit different fixtures and sometimes even electric and the two fixtures for these two different systems in the same building so hard to say what happened
@assyholey4224
@assyholey4224 16 күн бұрын
The farm behind ours had alote of the same stuff in a shred behind the slave house big glass bottles with wires coming out the brick summer kitchen was bigger than some small homes.slave house has fire place so big it divided the house in halves.
@4bSix86f61
@4bSix86f61 23 күн бұрын
It's astonishing that ancient tech lasts longer than modern tech.
@wendellporter4875
@wendellporter4875 23 күн бұрын
modern tech is chinese made crap
@bobmatt9742
@bobmatt9742 22 күн бұрын
We live in a throw away country now !!!!
@apollorobb
@apollorobb 8 ай бұрын
That piece you cut off was a Check Valve . My Great Grandmother had a converted windmill well hers was a gravity feed style not a pressure style it had an overhead water tank that fed the house . Hers had almost the same gear box it may have been a bit older .
@joemccain5606
@joemccain5606 8 ай бұрын
It is called a working head. Has a cylinder on the bottom and a form of one on the top they were used on low output wells. You can use a monitor pump jack and a brass cylinder modified and mounted upside down for the top end.. some folks used Jensen jacks which did the same job but looked like mini oil field pumps.The Great Plains area will keep wellmen on their toes at least they have kept me learning for the last 35 years
@scotts.2624
@scotts.2624 17 күн бұрын
I used to work at a machine/ fabrication shop that specialized in rebuilding old machines. That would be a fun project to rebuild.
@tacoma50
@tacoma50 8 ай бұрын
Worked for 80 years….. until you put your hands on it!
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 5 ай бұрын
Except you can't sanitize that old setup. Which negates being able to rent the property out as an AirB&B as the property owner plans on doing. Plus if you rewatch the beginning when the pump kicks in and some of the water leaks to the top, you will see the unmistakable sheen of oil in the water. This is caused because the side of the pump housing is open, and some oil gets splashed out. If the water leaks out at the top, then the oil will leak down into the well when the pump stops. I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of drinking oil contaminated water or even bathing in it. Just because old setups may last longer does not mean thar it's the best method. It may be robust if maintained, but it allows the well to be contaminated with each use of the pump.
@lawrencewillard6370
@lawrencewillard6370 24 күн бұрын
He was paid to do it. The owner made the choice.
@nickjudd5188
@nickjudd5188 15 күн бұрын
I agree. Educate yourself, research the system and service it properly. Replacing it with modern gear is inefficient use of resources. As for the sanitation requirement, all they needed to do was install a filtration system between the pump and house.
@MIchaelPerkins-bc9zf
@MIchaelPerkins-bc9zf 8 ай бұрын
My Mom, born in 1920, used a slightly different term for what you termed the leather wiper. She called it the sucker washer.
@stevenmoomey2115
@stevenmoomey2115 11 күн бұрын
Back in the mid to late 80’s I put a repair kit in one, just like that. I’m not a well guy, commercial HVAC. Southern Utilities recommend me, said I could repair anything, LOL. Got it running like new, and customer was happy.
@walterochsner8145
@walterochsner8145 8 ай бұрын
Amazing what you find on old systems, that was state of the art at one time.
@layne3718
@layne3718 8 ай бұрын
We have this same setup at our farm in a 50 foot hand dug well. still works as a backup. Same style pump, mabye little older.
@markkowaleski3515
@markkowaleski3515 8 ай бұрын
The pump was made about 35 miles from where I live, Seneca Falls, NY. They're still I business, I used to deliver steel to the factory in the 70's....1970s!
@crabmanrockefeller9117
@crabmanrockefeller9117 8 ай бұрын
Agreed on the new well. However, I would try two hydraulic jacks and a jack plate to pull the casing (start the pull on the pump rods) or actually pull hard enough to break the casing free and pull the whole thing. Then you can cement it and do a decent P and A. Two 12 ton jacks and a jack plat would give you 24T of pull. 1" jack plate. Once the sucker rod breaks use that on the casing. 24 tons should get the casing moving then you should be able to pull it with a crane. Maybe more than 6000' crain.
@crabmanrockefeller9117
@crabmanrockefeller9117 8 ай бұрын
My fear is this well could cross flow and contaminate the new well. So casing jack out and proper PA.
@danmerillat
@danmerillat 8 ай бұрын
Fixing the seal would have given them a system that'd work another 80 years. My "modern" pump had to be replaced 3 times in a decade.
@JoeCdaYT
@JoeCdaYT 8 ай бұрын
That old pump belongs in a museum
@dmetriglover3628
@dmetriglover3628 8 ай бұрын
Pretty cool find I would love to have that pump that old stuff amazes me. This well is almost like servicing a oil well with that packing box over the wellhead . Sad that the well couldn't be saved but that's the way things go and you learned and gained experience so it's a successful day.
@dbad8798
@dbad8798 8 ай бұрын
A company called Demming made a pump called a rod pump that was in a house that my parents bought when I was a teen about 60 years ago and we were told that it was over 80 years old then and we used it for 10 years and was told it was common in the area and it looked very much like the pump you have their, I live in the thumb of Michigan.
@stevelalondejr2183
@stevelalondejr2183 8 ай бұрын
Welcome to my world pump jacks, cylinders & leathers here are still a normal well pumping system. You might have fixed that with a different rig, tools & more knowledge of how they work and are put together you had plenty of pull though. I agree with the sanitize aspect to a point and they aren't major gpm units for pumping water but they'll make pressure when right. We have gas in some wells here and these will pump water and gas with a Hoffman 79 valve added to vent gas off. They are like a ship slow and steady time replaces speed/volumes or submersible pump type well system. It was working just needed some care and fixing a new well and system will help a rental system for sure. My oldest now 40 cussed me teaching him these type systems along with jet pumps etc but they make $$ when you are the only one able or willing to work on them ! Get a 6'-8' hoist chain 1/4''- 3/8'' high tensile and make a loop chain save yourself from nylon slingshots! At least you tried that's way more than most would do here and a good pump jacket still works and worth $$ saving getting hard to come by.
@farmboycharlie6543
@farmboycharlie6543 8 ай бұрын
Systems are pretty simple and repairable by most farm shops will out last a cheap a Chinese made pump. Haverepaired them with leather from old work boots and fabricated metal parts from salvage farm equipment. Our dairy farm well still uses a 3 inch casing under the old windmill. We have upraded it ourselves over the years. Still pumping 2,000 gallons plus a day out of a 30 ft well. Jack pump there was removed back in the 1960's as demands increased. But I still kept one up for inlaws until they moved in 2000. Was supplying a small farm and house just fine for 85 years
@brandonhoffman1875
@brandonhoffman1875 8 ай бұрын
It works like a little oil well with a stand valve and a traveling valve in a working barrel. I’ve never seen one that small.
@buggsy5
@buggsy5 8 ай бұрын
It may not be as small as the creator is conjecturing. I have seen a number of similar setups that used about a 3" pipe.
@brandonhoffman1875
@brandonhoffman1875 8 ай бұрын
@@buggsy5 it looks small. I have a couple wells that use 1 1/2 inch tubing and it’s bigger than that
@northwoodsguy1538
@northwoodsguy1538 8 ай бұрын
I had friends use pump jacks like that powered by gas engine ( ie 5HP Briggs with horizontal shaft) in the Dakotas to water cattle on parcels that are not close to power. Suppose they could use a generator and motor like your setup.
@DaveBooth-qs7sw
@DaveBooth-qs7sw 8 ай бұрын
When the deep well cylinder gets stuck in the well causing it takes lots of patience by pulling it up & pushing it down to clear & scrap some of the corrosion from the insides of the casing. It can take lots of time, but eventually with perseverance you will get the deep well cylinder out!
@donaldshimkus539
@donaldshimkus539 8 ай бұрын
Brings back memories of working on an old reciprocating pump run by electric motor. It was in a basement because the house was added onto in the 40s or early 50s. Two 100 gallon galvanized pressure tanks. They had microscopic leaks below the water lines. I moved away before that became a disaster or someone else got to replace it.
@rickatkins1493
@rickatkins1493 8 ай бұрын
Your solution is the only way that well can pass a Legit inspection. I lived in Virginia for many years, and I have dealt with a lot of inspectors. Great to see the old American made product steel functioning❤
@johnsmith7676
@johnsmith7676 8 ай бұрын
Inspections are for slaves. And, the ones mandating these "inspections" are your masters, and ANYTHING but legitimate.
@samsiryani9023
@samsiryani9023 5 ай бұрын
Made in AMERICA and that’s why it still hold the test of time. Amazing stuff to see.
@awhensley
@awhensley 8 ай бұрын
I lived in Seneca Falls in the late 1960's. Gould pumps and the birth of the Women's suffrage movement was what Seneca Falls was famous for. I really enjoy your videos. They are very informative.
@lbstilts
@lbstilts 8 ай бұрын
They used to call those "Sucker Rod" pumps in my area.
@iamdesertpaul
@iamdesertpaul 8 ай бұрын
I feel like Hand Tool Rescue would love this. The gismocity with this is incredible.
@jamesanderson2176
@jamesanderson2176 13 күн бұрын
We had a very similar system at the barn in the 70's, although it went back long before that. It was used strictly to fill the stock tanks (flow only). I had no idea it was able to build pressure!
@iansmartel5473
@iansmartel5473 8 ай бұрын
Using wind power before the word GREEN POWER was thought of.
@jailbreakgamin1966
@jailbreakgamin1966 8 ай бұрын
you want a well thats reliable.. thats rich.. seeing it has been working 80 years ... no crap today would make it 1/3 as long ..
@stevepurcell7266
@stevepurcell7266 8 ай бұрын
My cousin is a supervisor at Goulds pumps located just outside Chicago. Great American made quality.
@jf2487
@jf2487 8 ай бұрын
its called a rod pump has rods made of wood or later updated to steel usually run about 20 ft. each hase depths of 200-300 ft in depth on bottom is a set of cup shaped leather sleeves that are in the last section has a casing in bottom that draws water from bottom of well thru a stroking motion.old timers would pour bleach down well to shrink leathers to make them easier to pull
@hermanschepers4739
@hermanschepers4739 8 ай бұрын
Have my granddad's old house and shop. So I inherited the old wooden rods we pulled out in the mid 60's.
@Wyrm1701
@Wyrm1701 8 ай бұрын
Well, if you want a tale of old water engineering, then when archaeologists first got into the volcanically buried bath house of Roman Herculaneum in Italy, they found a large square-topped valve on a big lead pipe. Cautiously turning this valve (who would be able to resist doing so?) it was found to still work and still be holding some water 1800 years after the eruption buried it in volcanic ash.
@rocarroll1533
@rocarroll1533 8 ай бұрын
Google Track Industries in Christchurch New Zealand, pretty sure they still manufacture a new Anderson deepwell rod pumps,beautifully engineered and smooth running pump gearing
@calebmunch-ae0fp20
@calebmunch-ae0fp20 8 ай бұрын
In Mn, those are all over the upper nw corner of the state. They are called "pumpjacks". Our well was over 200' deep, and they do work!
@mikeh.3855
@mikeh.3855 8 ай бұрын
"hook this in that...and then we're gonna take this ...as a safety...and put that on there as well. okiedoke.". While using a knotted sling. LOL
@flipphonewizard5448
@flipphonewizard5448 8 ай бұрын
Who thought it was a good idea to ruin a antique well set up that still worked when you should have known converting a 80+ year old well was going to be impossible?
@fidgetthedalmation7433
@fidgetthedalmation7433 8 ай бұрын
I know. They could have just drilled a new well and left the old system in place as a backup or as a display for people to see.
@hhg7832
@hhg7832 8 ай бұрын
A bit of hand digging and a tape measure instead of vauge hand size estimate would have easily proven the pipe was too small for the submersible they had planned.
@asherdie
@asherdie 8 ай бұрын
Job security
@robertmcenery4344
@robertmcenery4344 8 ай бұрын
How about a new windmill pump? That mechanism will never fail.
@ronblack7870
@ronblack7870 8 ай бұрын
this is what you get dealing with contractors without being onsite to make decisions.
@davida1hiwaaynet
@davida1hiwaaynet 24 күн бұрын
Amazing effort to save this well. I'm delighted that you took video of the old pump working one last time. That whole place is a time capsule. It's great that the owner is keeping the old pump unit.
@joek511
@joek511 16 күн бұрын
Yes had one behind our house for years. It worked for the 13 years we lived there. In short they function just like the old hand well pumps. The piece you cut off was the check valve, ya had to back up a bit. The water enters the bottom and pushes up on the valve. When the stoke is finished the spring under that large cap pushes down and closes the valve
@Petrochemtester
@Petrochemtester 8 ай бұрын
Still use them for cattle water - out in pasture where there is no electric and no windmill - fill with gas and runs until the fuel runs out
@donaldshimkus539
@donaldshimkus539 8 ай бұрын
The wildest one I ever saw was in a very old farm house. Water was pumped by a windmill and stored in the tank on the windmill. A pipe came from the tank to the attic and teed off for cold going down and the other side went into a copper lined box with a float valve (much like that in a toilet) in the attic. I figured this is how they got hot water most of the year.
@juliemunoz2762
@juliemunoz2762 8 ай бұрын
So ya made a functional well defunct and now the homeowner has no water until a new well is drilled. You could have identified this outcome with a little diagnosis so they could have chose to leave it or have a new well dug ahead of time.
@BRICEN18
@BRICEN18 8 ай бұрын
I’d like to recommend some tools. 1. Steel wedge mcmaster# 5775A1 These are great for separating mating surfaces. 2. Ball peen hammer, save the claw hammer for nails. 3. A 3/4/5 lb sledge of your choice.
@FreeFinca
@FreeFinca 8 ай бұрын
85% of you should help this man out and give him the Christmas he deserves 🎄
@johnbarilovits3721
@johnbarilovits3721 8 ай бұрын
When people got electricity, the motorized pump jack was installed to replace the windmill as a power source for pumping the piston pump in the well.
@Thomas-oe7gx
@Thomas-oe7gx Ай бұрын
had the same pump in my Basement from 1940 it took me all day to remove it I pulled out about 70 feet of pipe with a rod inside, it had some brass contraption at the end of it
@chuckpierce1905
@chuckpierce1905 8 ай бұрын
My parents'house in the 70's had the same setup and worked great! Theirs was in a vault that was located under ground and had a manhole cover for access.
@scottb7444
@scottb7444 14 күн бұрын
Those are awesome. Old windmill pumps had a brass ball valve and a leather seal
@turnbullfl4114
@turnbullfl4114 5 ай бұрын
If I was homeowner, I would have said "Put it back together the way it was".
@phenry5083
@phenry5083 5 ай бұрын
No you wouldn’t have because that’s the risk you take with wells and you sign off on it before hand
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 5 ай бұрын
Why? Do you like an oil contaminated water supply? Rewatch the beginning when the pump kicked in. There's the unmistakable sheen of oil in the water that leaks past the pump. That oil comes from the open side of the gearbox. The oil gets splashed out. If the water leaks past the pump piston, then oil will leak down into the well when the pump stops. I don't care how robust that old system may be, it's a health hazard. Not to mention all the poison from all that rust. It's so rusted that you can't even repack the seals so it won't leak. The old pump had it's day, and Long life. It's time to move on to something that won't posion it's owners.
@kenwillis8487
@kenwillis8487 4 ай бұрын
They bought the house to rent out! I know from my past as a real estate agent that the well either passes or fails water quality and flow tests! I’m guessing the well failed inspection or the water samples fails due to oil and dirt contamination! It would have been a condition of the mortgage company that the well was replaced either b4 closing on the property or money was placed in escrow to pay for new well or retrofit of existing!
@williamallen7836
@williamallen7836 4 ай бұрын
@@kenwillis8487 Exactly. Just because an old item is robust, it does not mean it has not out lived it useful life or overall better in it's current use.
@Lunas2525
@Lunas2525 13 күн бұрын
The water was not safe to use as it was it was even stated in the video it would not pass current water standards. Also it was already partially broken and looked ready to break any time. Its just too bad we dont get to see them pulling out the 2 inch casing and drilling a new well
@user-or1lu3ku3m
@user-or1lu3ku3m 8 ай бұрын
You pulled the pipe at an angle and were surprised that the head broke off, sheesh
@davekelley8520
@davekelley8520 8 ай бұрын
We have neighbors still using them on 3"casing here in Ontario canada
@jim7smith
@jim7smith 8 ай бұрын
Shame that was rusted to ruin. Definitely a unique pumping system. Looks identical on a smaller scale to the oil well pumps I drive by in Texas
@knox16161
@knox16161 8 ай бұрын
I own a property in TN that has exactly this same setup only the pump is a MYERS. I live in CA so I haven’t had a chance to play with it yet. This is the first video I’ve been able to find that has shown how the system is put together. After some research the pump head can be adapted to a windmill powered mechanism as well.
@truth6600
@truth6600 8 ай бұрын
Goulds ,the best I've ever worked with.
@drob5664
@drob5664 8 ай бұрын
Great find, it has been probably 35 years since I came across an old working jack pump.
@henningventer2917
@henningventer2917 8 ай бұрын
In South Africa those pumps are still popular. Some with stationary distillate or diesel motors and some with electric motors. Makers names that I can think of is National and Rapid. That Goulds was manufactured as a powerhead for a deep well.
@pathaze4299
@pathaze4299 24 күн бұрын
My uncle had the bottom half of one of these old pumps in his garage just laying around..Something left from the house/property. I always wondered what it was when I was younger as I messed around with it, I remember putting my foot on the arm on the side and making the pulley turn.. It sounded exactly like this.. So now I know what it was. It's an old well pump.. Says F.E. Myers on the side of it.. Hearing the oil sloshing around when it's running gave it away to me..
@wademizelle3433
@wademizelle3433 21 күн бұрын
We had an old stroke pump like that when I was a kid. We pulled it out by hand, it was 60 feet deep and had 40 gallons a minute. Used a pipe cutter to hold the pipe up while each 10 ft. Section was unscrewed, over 60 years ago. Thanks
@davidyansky6605
@davidyansky6605 5 ай бұрын
Had one similar to this on an old farmstead I bought. I built a new house but still kept the 60' well running for 20 years until the sandpoint failed and it started pumping up mud. It's still sitting in the well house, disconnected but works.
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 19 күн бұрын
We had a rod pump back in Pennsylvania it would also leak some water when the rod came up, but we had pressure to take showers. We had three tanks, one was the well tank, the second was the water softner, and the last was a stone lined hot water storage tank, The wster was heated by a fire chamber that was a coil of copper and the gas flame in the center like an instantainous water heater. The only differece was the stone tank to store hot water. 73
@charlestonsclocal
@charlestonsclocal 7 ай бұрын
It’s great showing us this antique well. Sad it was destroyed.
@zanelile8192
@zanelile8192 8 ай бұрын
clean area, apply heat, use 2 pipe wrenches. and hammer. Don't give up.
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783
@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783 8 ай бұрын
Why did I find it sad to see this old American built pump that still works have to be removed. 😢❤ I also detest air bnb. 😂
@deuscaffeum526
@deuscaffeum526 8 ай бұрын
Exactly the setup at may grandparents house up till the mid 70s when they made everyone go on to city water. He still used it to water the garden. And to drink water way better than the city had to offer.
@rocarroll1533
@rocarroll1533 8 ай бұрын
The main disadvantage with gearing deep well pumps was fairly heavy maintainance In New Zealand most had to be service 2 or 3 yearly. Pump cylinder at bottom of riser pipe was brass with leather pump cups ( seals) 2 at bottom in pump cylinder and 2 at top flange on stuffing box Most pump cylinders were either 2" or 2 and half inch with 8" stroke, 180 gallon an hour or 330 gallons at 47 strokes per minute Riser pipe usualy 1 and quarter or 1and half inch with 5 eigth lift rods joined at 21 foot sections Have lifted pumps from 2 or three hundred feet ,pump gearing need counter ballance forsmooth running,still plenty in New Zealand but not many old boys like me who know how to service them,bloody hard work but loved every minute of it ya teach yourself and learn from experience Only ever dropped 3 over 45 years, usually 1 lift per day in dairy farming areas
@user-oi4fg3os7t
@user-oi4fg3os7t 8 ай бұрын
Can't tell you the last time I saw one of these. A reciprocating dingle arm actuating a canooter valve is how all wells used to work areound here. Now they have all been converted to electric submersable pumps and the old casings made of prefabulated aluminite have been replaced with PVC. They just dont make them like they used to.
@adamlynn6648
@adamlynn6648 8 ай бұрын
The broken shaft is supposed to open and close valve while pumping
@davidkraft3690
@davidkraft3690 17 күн бұрын
I am amazed you had a problem identifying that pump arangement. It is comenly used on wells here in Illinois. It was refered to as a "working head" . Manufactured by FairBanfs Morris. Baker and others. Known for durability and relalibalty the sat on the steel well for suport ,The small cylinder (with the broken rod) was an air cylender that kept the storage tank charged with air, and the fitting bolted and piped to the pump was a check valve . Lots of them still in use in our area.
@roberts.3712
@roberts.3712 21 күн бұрын
We had a pitcher pump next to the kitchen sink as a kid growing up. Don't know how you could service it but it lasted forever. Better than going outside in the winter. I am 85 years old by the way.
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