Bro, u sound like Toto Wolff having a mental breakdown in DTS with all the anger lol

Haas is fine on the grid, but fails when the bullshit excuses given to Andretti are used comparatively. I’ve said before that FOM is completely dismissive of the importance of finally cracking the market in the States. I am also American, having one foot in the States, the other in the EU(Dk). I know American fans and they are a fickle bunch. If F1 want to keep their recent popularity, they had best stop acting a bunch of entitled and arrogant twats and get Andretti on the grid. This is how they will secure the motorsports fan base in the states, securing and growing the fans and thus the revenue stream. This type of expansion will also very likely add to the valuation of F1 and the individual teams. If Stefano Domenicali can not understand this, perhaps he is the one who needs to move on.

I don’t disagree with you on the way gene haas runs the team, but I don’t like the way you fail to differentiate between him and all the people doing the work day to day to keep the team going…. And calling the them a useless, waste of space, shit team is pretty harsh towards all those people.

I think current HAAS is *fine*, Komatsu is more quiet and seems more "grounded" to have a normal development vs Gunther and with Sauber becoming Audi, its kinda the needed Ferrari B team imo Andretti should still join tho and fuck FOM, Liberty Media, the other teams, etc the ones blocking their entry

Komatsu has been a breath of fresh air, I think the issue lies with ownership.

i'm just saying, if HAAS can be on the grid, andretti should

Haas F1 have over 200 employees that they are providing a wage too so that they can provide for themselves and their families. They are creating business for many suppliers, most of which are smaller companies, helping said companies to generate income and profit and in turn provide for all their staff. They are providing Dallara with a huge opportunity to be involved in F1. I have absolutely no allegiances to HAAS F1 and i agree with your fundamental point that Gene needs to invest but they are not a waste of space. Fair game if they get bought out and a new owner invests but if they left F1 there would be hundreds of people and many many business impacted in a terrible way and i would never wish that on anyone.

Gene Haas openly admitted he is okay with how the team is doing by not committing money. That itself is an admission that they are not in the sport to win. He's okay with this as long as he can turn a profit. Is this the kind of team people want in the sport?

Haas to me seems like a clear symptom of the bigger problem. F1 has become a closed exclusive club where everyone the lowest team (Haas) makes enough to stay in the club. Without external competition this will not likely change. One way to change this would be to have team licenses just like drivers have drivers licenses. Have enough infractions against you license (DNFs, crashes, rule violations, etc.) and not enough race points puts you on probation, and eventually you loose your F1 license and have to compete in F2 instead until you have a license again and someone else drops down (or a team is added).

I know it sounds like some wild theory, but this honestly feels like FOM wants a U.S. team that won't pose a threat to any of the top teams. They are worried Andretti will become competitive, and that would upset the top teams.

Somewhat agree but maybe take a notch down calling them useless... Would love to see Andretti come in.

As an American, my home country team is a joke and should be sold to Andretti.

Bros prophetic with the Nico to Audi quote!

Good argument. Though are you okay Jason? To me it sounds like you need a bit of counselling. If you need a chat I'm happy to listen.

Do one about Williams now

I do have a slight softspot for Haas, but they have made so many messups. I mean i'd say there's a reason for their shady titlesponsors that pretty much only they have had. The way they treated Mick, yes he was crash prone but he had talent and Haas proved to be a horrible place for a rookie that needs refinement. Gene himself refusing to give a dime to the team. Haas as a team consistantly having a poor car and they cant bring upgrades in time. Haas doesnt even build much of their car themselfs and they are still this terrible. Haas needs a massive change or they need to sell, and Andretti is right there looking to buy

Interesting you brought up Rich Energy..! I had never heard of them before that Haas sponsorship and have not heard of them since. I have never even seen a single can of the liquid they are supposed to sell. There was something so dodgy about that crowd. Id love someone to do a video on dodgy F1 sponsors, that seem have bags of cash, but nobody has seen a product of theirs or where did they turn up from.. Jason, it sounds right up your street..

Do you even know what you are talking about? if you think Haas is not trying to improve (you can see it already), or put more money into the team, you’re very misinformed.

Yeah, well I like the current Haas and don't mind them sticking around. Instead of insisting Haas need to sell, Liberty Media (owner of FOG/FOM) need to add 2 more teams. Domenicali is a clown (I don't say this lightly) and have something against Andretti, need to be replaced with someone impartial.

Well you're fierce! Hass gave FOM a ten team grid after the class of 2010 folded. I can't imagine Andretti wasn't aaked back then to join. Back then there was no costcap so Andretti couldn't or woupn't take the risk, Haas did. With a buisiness plan concieved by Günter Steiner Haas could enter on the cheap. Haas bailed out FOM in 2016 after the folding of Marussia. After Vettel won in a Torro Rosso in 2008 every construxtor has to design and build itself a bespoke chassis or has a third party build an exlusive chassis for it. Racing Point isn't found guilty on charges of copying in 2020. Racing Point had completely legally bought brakeducts from Mercedes in 2019. The front ones were used in 2019 but the rear ones couldn't be used in that year due to the difference in concept. In the winter of '19 to '20 the list of transferible listed parts changed and brakeducts were suddenly illeagal to transfer. This is why Racing Point was handed out a penalty of 15 constructors points. Renault pushed very hard for a conviction 'cause a that time it was batteling with Racing Point and McLaren for P3 in the constructors. In the same year Renault was punished for using illeagal brake balance adusting software. This was an infringement on the driver aid regulation. Out of the top of my head a few results were scrapped were that software was used. Gene Haas uses the Haas F1 cars very effectively as a billboard. No one outside North America ever had heared of Haas Automation. Now Haas CNC macines are shipped all over the world, this are even helping Dallara building chassis' for Haas F1 team. Andretti is now running into the American franchise wall. In many Ametcan sports there is no promotion- degradation system but a a sporter pool system with a budget cap. No team is outspending the competition and the top players are devided amongst the competition. In hindsight Andretti made the wrong call i 2014-'16 and he regrets it now. Under Bernie he would be able to enter but not under the Americans of Liberty Media. The Americans keep the Americans at bay..... Further more i mostly agre.

Short answer: No! Long answer:Haas with his limited resources has managed to be ahead of Alpine, Williams and Sauber with backing from Audi. a few points shy of VICARB powered by Honda and parts from Red Bull. They are in F1 to stay, deal with it!

what a masterclass takedown of Haas. You have a talent with words. Fantastic.

Like I said, each team to have their own engine manufacturers.....☝️

So we hate Haas now. Got it.

This feels like weird timing for a video on this topic, given that HAAS haven't actually been such a waste of space so far this season

Williams is also a waste of space. Legacy this and legacy that just let that team die.

You started your vid by calling Gene Haas a Billionaire with no talent. I am sorry but that demonstrates an ignorance of who Gene Haas is and how he has made his money. It was insulting. This wrong statement set the tone of what followed and you fail to understand how Haas is a success for Gene Haas. He is not interested in your high ideals. I am not an American I am a British engineer and I am a Mclaren fan. My whole life has been spent in engineering where Haas automation is higjly regarded. Gene Haas didnt make his money looking at a computerscreen in the money markets. He made it by taking on the Japanese and far East machine tool manufacturers and out performed them by great design and new techniques. He is an engineer and talented designer and he designed one of the first programmable machine tool indexers and then started building whole machines using new ideas. He has also raced offroad successfully and started Newman Haas his first Nascar team over 20 years ago and now has four teams in Nascar as Stuart-Haas . He is one of the big names in American motorsport and been involved for decades. Just a point also he is not a billionaire. I put that incorrect statement down as journalistic license. The big teams are trying to sell , drinks or cars so they need to win races to help promote a Mercedes or Ferrari etc . Haas F1 puts the Haas name onto a world stage . It opens doors. He took the rules and in typical Gene Haas way realised things could be done differently when he saw Guenthers ideas and they worked together.. You are castigating people for reading the rules of the sport and being diferent. For being an entrepreneur and thinking outside of the box. Andretti would be a similar operation because he has seen how Haas has done it . Andretti has never made anything unlike Haas. Andretti has just made a good racing team using parts from alll over and Indycars are Dallara . There are strict rules and you should be more comcerned about RB moving onto the same site as red Bull with the same ownership. Haas saw an opportunity and went for it when others had failed. Stop knocking him and by inference the whole team. They have earned their right to be on the grid and you are advocating social engineering of the grid because they had the temerity to be different but within the rules. How much Gene wnats to put into the team is his business and he will way up the pros and cons to him and not to you. Because as I said he is not a billionaire and so has to be careful. Haas joined the grid when the F1 world was diferent and they needed Haas. They have passed the test of time and deserve their place and no new team would join F1 if they see Haas being disrespected and shown the door for no reason other than they dont wear designer outfits like the big teams.

i wouldnt pick on haas when you have the likes of Alpine and Williams, hell even RB or visa or whatever the hell they are called really isnt any better than Haas. I mean, jesus, Alpine is an engine supplier and they have been beat by Haas at every race but 1 this season.

Yet they are not last in the the constructors right now 😂

You’re absolutely right!

Even better, Williams is even worse than this!

Based on F1 points ?

You just want andretti to buy it so checo can have a seat 😜

Totally agree. What a waste.

You act like Alpine isn't a problem? It's technically a Factory team... and it's terrible! BAN THE FRENCH FROM F1! 😤

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Yeah they are gone by 2026. I don't see how this team is anywhere near profitable or marketable for anything. I want to see more works teams on the grid, not this p.o.s