Hack Your Surround Sound Speaker Position Problems

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Cinema_Sound

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In this video, Cinema Sound main presenter Mark Edward Lewis describes a HACK that helps solve the issue of placing speakers in position where they cannot be equidistant from the listener. Of course, you'll always have the ability to use an amp which can correct this (if it does), but you'll want to be able to hack your surround sound speaker position problems manually so you can fix issues as they come up.
Learn all of this and more about surround sound mixing and media by streaming the 85 hour Cinema Sound education:
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@fortinfilms
@fortinfilms 3 жыл бұрын
the bg music on this is brutal
@totalplonker824
@totalplonker824 3 жыл бұрын
Not only have you come-up with a good content choice but the way you delivered it made it easy for one to understand! GOOD JOB
@Night_Watch413
@Night_Watch413 5 жыл бұрын
I have to say I'm no pro but also no noob, but I always felt like a little something was missing with my sound set up. I have all the gadgets umik-1 laptop calibration mic from receiver, and even spl meter. But let me tell you I came across this video and watched it like 6x even wrote things down, and I sat here and did what you recommend and wow fixing the delay the right way is a day and night difference! I have to say thank you and keep them informational videos coming..
@firebirdone
@firebirdone Жыл бұрын
Great video, Mark. I've never heard anyone explain delay as precise as you. Thanks for the knowledge, I understand a lot better now. VERY informative and useful!
@dr.6314
@dr.6314 3 жыл бұрын
As an audio engineer i can only say .. Bravo! 👏 & Thank you- We're kind of a geeky lot, generally, but you really nailed the fundamental Science of Sound & proper Surround Set-up, based on these (actually simple) principles. Viewers, don't be intimidated by the single formulas presented, its real basic & answers the question of HOW to dial your system in Properly, for Max enjoyment via accurate signal balance. I'm stoked, because besides my leisure enjoyment of everything I'm going to surround if I endeavor to attempt to mix 5.1 it's important to have your monitoring system properly arranged so, that's something fun to look forward to as a Producer & Musical fiend.. I look forward to seeing how close JPL and Harman kardon come to setting up the delay using their system that has the mic which I will compare to my own measurements now... Thanks, Dude- nice job! 🙏🏽
@giovannistevenson2470
@giovannistevenson2470 4 жыл бұрын
Top Pro Video guide man,Thank you ever so much! You couldn't be more clear on your video. I honestly had no idea what the delaying option was for and 10/10 your explanation on how to calculate the correct delay for each speaker. Now, tape measure, calculator, drill :action! Again, thank you!
@teclo1057
@teclo1057 4 жыл бұрын
if i use my microphone for setting up the levels, will that also sort out the delay as well
@koolkool1497
@koolkool1497 5 жыл бұрын
so sick. I’m honestly obsessed ️
@lanotamix
@lanotamix 5 жыл бұрын
This is SOOO GOOD I CANT!! LOVE IT
@subeotv5712
@subeotv5712 5 жыл бұрын
This video is such a gift!
@haha-oz2tm
@haha-oz2tm 5 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for!
5 жыл бұрын
This is the start of something EPIC!!!!
@SpeedBoosted136
@SpeedBoosted136 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanations, thank you :)
@LakeArrows
@LakeArrows 4 жыл бұрын
Hard to set up rear speakers the same distance as sub woofer or sound bar when the coach is against the wall. I have my set up at each corner but thinking of setting then up have way between midpoint.
@GB-je5tc
@GB-je5tc 2 жыл бұрын
VERY useful knowledge... and of course there's still way more room to expound on the variables you outlined... Just a jump off point. THX
@adelisvargas6748
@adelisvargas6748 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta sit down for this!
@mariovicentecarbonellcarri439
@mariovicentecarbonellcarri439 5 жыл бұрын
excellent video! Thank you!
@cloakofanonymity
@cloakofanonymity 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative. In an object based setup ( ATMOS ) which utilizes height speakers, what would your recommendation be for 4 direct radiating speakers as far as placement? Dolby recommends 2 L&R slightly in front and to the sides of the listening position and 2 L&R slightly behind and to the sides of the listening position, however I'm assuming these are in ceiling speakers and that's why they recommend this set up. I'm taking bookshelf speakers and mounting them up on my ceiling. Do you recommend 2 height channels L&R directly to the sides ( about 12' apart ) and angled down towards the listening position and 2 height channels L&R directly behind the seating position (also around 10-12' apart ) angled down towards the listener ( NOT to the sides) or would you yourself stick to Dolbys recommendation? My concern is that the drivers would not be pointed at the listener and firing into a "blank area" using Dolbys recommendation. I totally agree with speakers facing you ( the listener ) and I cannot find anything anywhere about using direct radiating speakers for an object based set-up.
@CocomieDA
@CocomieDA Жыл бұрын
Hi, the video is great. One question, how should I place the delay on the speakers? Do I need hardware delay per speaker? or could apply some delay in the master in protools? If so, which one would you recommend? In my studio I have about 30 feet of difference between the front and back to the listening point.
@vominhdangldb
@vominhdangldb 5 жыл бұрын
This is proper shout out material!!
@abrahamrivas5205
@abrahamrivas5205 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video...I love it!!
@leafphotopro
@leafphotopro 5 жыл бұрын
How to set up surround sound with studio monitors? What kind of audio interfaces can I use?
@aibui5210
@aibui5210 5 жыл бұрын
This video is so good!
@quamanh1072
@quamanh1072 5 жыл бұрын
I had no idea how badly I needed this video until now.
@ramonsanchez3549
@ramonsanchez3549 5 жыл бұрын
This is legit awesome!
@genuinejake9851
@genuinejake9851 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! Question........irregular basement "open floor plan" here. My left and right surround have very different wall distances. Left is say 8ft and 10 degrees behind me because of a window. Right speaker can either be 14 ft and 5 degrees AHEAD of my position or to get a similar 10 degrees behind me more like 18ft. Because of my stairway. Is this simply too far to overcome? This is a 7.1.4 setup. Receiver is a new Sony so it's fairly capable but i dunno about THAT capable. Thanks in advance.
@arthur_soares
@arthur_soares Жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian and I have a question. Can you help me? I'm going to buy a Samsung Dolby Atmos Soundbar that has two rear speakers. I know a good setup is to use pedestals behind the couch. M
@ucanhbui5814
@ucanhbui5814 5 жыл бұрын
Great Videos! Keep them Coming Please =)
@bahtiar9117
@bahtiar9117 5 жыл бұрын
you are a constant inspiration
@dawidir4646
@dawidir4646 4 жыл бұрын
SO it's ok for the rear surround speakers to be significantly further away from the listening position than the front ones?
@Fajah69
@Fajah69 3 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to put my left and right surround up in the ceiling but pointed towards me? I really cannot run wires on the floor since I have a 2 year old.
@danimadrid5515
@danimadrid5515 5 жыл бұрын
This video is super LIT!!
@vanchuyenkhachhtx5884
@vanchuyenkhachhtx5884 5 жыл бұрын
this touched me :)
@Manologft
@Manologft 5 жыл бұрын
You recommended not to use ceiling speakers, but if I wanted to build a Dolby Atmos system where ceiling speakers are a must, do you have any recommendations for that?
@FURognar
@FURognar 5 жыл бұрын
I was assuming he was talking about main and surround speakers in the ceiling. A lot of people do that for aesthetics and they end up with terrible sound quality for their cinema
@netbazar9724
@netbazar9724 5 жыл бұрын
My day isn't complete without watching this .....
@aristoteles779
@aristoteles779 5 жыл бұрын
Omg....breathtaking!
@albertogarban8093
@albertogarban8093 5 жыл бұрын
It's an iconic video ️
@soundholics8656
@soundholics8656 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro 😊
@fanbuntnmonstervlogs6965
@fanbuntnmonstervlogs6965 5 жыл бұрын
obsessed with this already
@thiagosantos2878
@thiagosantos2878 5 жыл бұрын
Omg i love this so much
@thuannguyen-gp5di
@thuannguyen-gp5di 5 жыл бұрын
deserves at least 100 million views.
@alejandros481
@alejandros481 5 жыл бұрын
Replayed this 10 times already!
@lehuusonson3259
@lehuusonson3259 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video
@phamha4275
@phamha4275 5 жыл бұрын
Smiled through the whole video
@fredleeman8186
@fredleeman8186 6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@stevenoconnor5693
@stevenoconnor5693 2 жыл бұрын
I run a 4.1 phantom Center. Room layout is small configured the best I could still need an SLM meter. I think I got it pretty good so far.
@lisbethcarolina9077
@lisbethcarolina9077 5 жыл бұрын
perfect video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@melvin9688
@melvin9688 5 жыл бұрын
just perfect!
@crossfile7545
@crossfile7545 5 жыл бұрын
this gets me hyped up
@petteranguila3137
@petteranguila3137 5 жыл бұрын
Keep being awesome!
@ahmednabilflfla9472
@ahmednabilflfla9472 5 жыл бұрын
I'm obsessed!!
@daonguyen6548
@daonguyen6548 5 жыл бұрын
This is proper!!
@dannydingdingable
@dannydingdingable 4 жыл бұрын
This explains a lot. I just got the Dolby Atmos soundbar system from Samsung. It came with two surround rears and a sub. 7.1.4 Do you recommend putting your two surround left and right speakers at ear level? Or would placing them higher be more beneficial? I'm struggling to figure it out. Any help would be great
@cinema_sound5003
@cinema_sound5003 4 жыл бұрын
You do want them slightly above if you're trying to recreate cinema. Thanks!
@josealfredfernandes
@josealfredfernandes 2 жыл бұрын
@@cinema_sound5003 Hey. Can I build a home theatre out of studio monitors? Respectively, 9.1.6, whole system will be out of 15x JBL 308 MKll.. because that's the only option left for me, due to import duty taxes, other speakers are way too overpriced!
@MarksMoneySecrets
@MarksMoneySecrets 2 жыл бұрын
@@josealfredfernandes Dude. I did it with 305s. 308s would be OFF THE HOOK!!!
@moisescarrillo8093
@moisescarrillo8093 5 жыл бұрын
how can a video be this good?
@gamegicungchoimobile1468
@gamegicungchoimobile1468 5 жыл бұрын
Straight fire!
@mroshan25
@mroshan25 5 жыл бұрын
The world needs to see this
@kiranmalakkara
@kiranmalakkara 4 жыл бұрын
hi i need your support for my home theater set up , as I have fitted alt the satellite speakers but the base coming from the modeule is so booming and irritating .iam using Bose Accoustimas 10 IV . Please help to sort out this issue. Thanking you in advance.
@kiranmalakkara
@kiranmalakkara 4 жыл бұрын
@@cinema_sound5003 thank you for your kind support.
@qula844
@qula844 5 жыл бұрын
CRUSHED it
@myyoutube6978
@myyoutube6978 2 жыл бұрын
Can these be connected to your car to any location in your house
@lexhtfdct7230
@lexhtfdct7230 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 7.2.4 set up and i can only find a few movies that are good for atmos applications and have it labeled on the slip cover like ( star wars and black panther ) .not all atmos Movies have full range atmos . Do any body know a list of dolby atmos that have 7.2.4 or higher
@stan1211
@stan1211 5 жыл бұрын
U may try these: Mad Max Fury Blade Runner 2049 Oblivion Hacksaw Ridge Mission Impossible: Fallout Star Trek: Into Darkness
@christopherarevalo116
@christopherarevalo116 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this one hits home pretty hard
@erickmorillo1604
@erickmorillo1604 5 жыл бұрын
This Video = Love
@minhhieu6683
@minhhieu6683 5 жыл бұрын
Best video ever
@petrtank8657
@petrtank8657 2 жыл бұрын
well. i put left & right speakers to ceilings before watching your video :D ok. i will direct them properly :))
@mariaelenagomezmarin39
@mariaelenagomezmarin39 5 жыл бұрын
video is perfect
@JohnnValentine
@JohnnValentine 2 жыл бұрын
Where does one put height speakers?
@subcriberfree1278
@subcriberfree1278 5 жыл бұрын
Watched! Now replay time :)
@proshantokumar5240
@proshantokumar5240 5 жыл бұрын
Love it to the fullest
@leonguerrero8147
@leonguerrero8147 5 жыл бұрын
BLESSED
@mrfact_1472
@mrfact_1472 5 жыл бұрын
MIND=BLOWN
@KiberoPH
@KiberoPH 5 жыл бұрын
BTW I just love this video
@dellwostudios8629
@dellwostudios8629 2 ай бұрын
Why do so many of these comments sound like generic bots? It's weird cause it's actually good information on properly setting up your HT receiver
@MrRamone_CBGB
@MrRamone_CBGB 10 ай бұрын
What would be the equation with the metric system?
@lio1234234
@lio1234234 4 жыл бұрын
This was epic! Could you do a video on this kind of stuff but directly about Dirac live as it uses frequency dependant phase differences and crazy stuff like that to fix the sound
@cinema_sound5003
@cinema_sound5003 4 жыл бұрын
We'd be happy to. Just furnish us with one and we'll do some demos with it!
@lio1234234
@lio1234234 4 жыл бұрын
Cinema_Sound Unfortunately, even though I have heard one, I do not own one so can’t send one to you, but do you want to demo my customisable BMR speaker (if you are in the UK I’d love to send one to you guys). Sorry i don’t have an AVR with Dirac live though. :(
@totalplonker824
@totalplonker824 3 жыл бұрын
"This is epic" come on mate steady! 😁
@dwipriyanto1942
@dwipriyanto1942 5 жыл бұрын
I rest my case with this video :)
@bin-sjoshi7775
@bin-sjoshi7775 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t stop watching this
@shitvalancheofdivercity14-.-88
@shitvalancheofdivercity14-.-88 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Yamaha ypao for doing this for me.
@tomaszmichewicz7867
@tomaszmichewicz7867 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, isn’t the rear surround speakers should’ve 80-90cm above the ear level ?????
@tomaszmichewicz7867
@tomaszmichewicz7867 5 жыл бұрын
Cinema Sound Can you give me an advice please, on what height I should put my bookshelf speakers on stands (rear surround) Would appreciate it.
@ptrmatchett
@ptrmatchett 4 жыл бұрын
Do av receivers have this delay calibration in-built?
@lemsp
@lemsp 4 жыл бұрын
the more expensive ones do.
@gregstafford2155
@gregstafford2155 2 жыл бұрын
How do you do Dolby Atmos without roof speakers? That's what at atmos is
@ChefTom777
@ChefTom777 4 жыл бұрын
onkyo speaker set up is smarter.. you will just have to measure all speakers from the center of your couch & adjust the meters or foot to the speakers distance option on the remote of the onkyo & thats it you good to go.. onkyo will automatically adjust the delay & volume of each speakers for you..
@everyone1806
@everyone1806 5 жыл бұрын
I wish it gets millions of views!!!!
@FanCrisDevilGamer-bi5lc
@FanCrisDevilGamer-bi5lc 5 жыл бұрын
addicted♥
@qua7771
@qua7771 Жыл бұрын
Homes aren't designed with good speakers in mind. For most of us this means complete reconstruction of our homes. These types of videos would be more helpful if they explained suitable compromises, instead of creating unrealistic expectations.
@zoechannel7680
@zoechannel7680 5 жыл бұрын
need to make it this trending
@quydoan5150
@quydoan5150 5 жыл бұрын
this is fineeeeeee!!!
@hiiamtakw4658
@hiiamtakw4658 5 жыл бұрын
Time to call this a Hit!
@doanquy8752
@doanquy8752 5 жыл бұрын
I will never get tired of watching this!
@TheChondrolover
@TheChondrolover 5 жыл бұрын
How do I set this in my Marantz AV7702? I can only set the distance of the individual speaker, not the delay in milliseconds!
@TheChondrolover
@TheChondrolover 5 жыл бұрын
Cinema Sound So I just set each speaker to the same distance as the furthest away speaker instead of calculating milliseconds? Or do you mean that I have to physically have them at the same distance?
@TheChondrolover
@TheChondrolover 5 жыл бұрын
@@cinema_sound5003 Yeah, but I can´t delay speakers in milliseconds in my Marantz. I can only set the distance in Meters/Feet from the speaker to the MLP. So how do I calculate the virtual distance then if I can´t use the millisecond delay-trick in my surround processor? Do I have to rely on Audyssey for that calculation?
@duyvhtpd00156
@duyvhtpd00156 5 жыл бұрын
Horror Stuff i have the same issue with u :)
@TheChondrolover
@TheChondrolover 5 жыл бұрын
@@duyvhtpd00156 Yeah, it´s annoying! :)
@R1ckmister
@R1ckmister 5 жыл бұрын
I just ditched a Bose lifestyle system for Monitor audio MASS speakers and a Onkyo amp .... have a feeling I just wasted my money, I can only mount my speakers on the wall to each corner of the room with the centre channel being correct. :/
@anhminh7554
@anhminh7554 5 жыл бұрын
Star in the making
@mdamirul4
@mdamirul4 5 жыл бұрын
feels irritated when ads creeps in between such a masterpiece
@rajonroy2698
@rajonroy2698 5 жыл бұрын
This video is WAY better
@emne9903
@emne9903 5 жыл бұрын
remarkable
@duccuongnguyen558
@duccuongnguyen558 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a new fan
@elbrujomaya
@elbrujomaya 4 жыл бұрын
Hi cinema sounds, I put the rear speakers of the old system (12 years) 7.1 on the ceiling and it is the same effect of the new ATMOS, atmos is really a "new" system or the consumer is being lied to, Regards
@daibui5171
@daibui5171 5 жыл бұрын
FIRE
@wilfredorojas6954
@wilfredorojas6954 5 жыл бұрын
Its too good
@jjlnguess7354
@jjlnguess7354 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the delay settings in my Denon X4500H?
@jjlnguess7354
@jjlnguess7354 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah think they are automatically set depending on the distance that is input for them. The X4500H doesn’t have independent delay settings. Makes it easier for me though lol. Everything else you said helped and my system sounds great.
@joynercorrea8008
@joynercorrea8008 5 жыл бұрын
I will still be watching this in 2019
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