Defcon 21 - All Your RFz Are Belong to Me - Hacking the Wireless World with Software Defined Radio

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HackersOnBoard

HackersOnBoard

10 жыл бұрын

Balint Seeber
August 1st--4th, 2013
Rio Hotel & Casino • Las Vegas, Nevada

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@darksaga2006
@darksaga2006 10 жыл бұрын
Problems with projector are solved at 6:00 (the talk doesnt start until then). Awesome talk!
@fraserbc
@fraserbc 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
aaahem,duznt land?
@beastymusictm1452
@beastymusictm1452 4 жыл бұрын
Christos Perivolaropoulos Thank you. 👍
@MultiBrad777
@MultiBrad777 4 жыл бұрын
Why are the planes tracking signals only picked up at a certain distance from the coast....They seem to appear out of nowhere
@user-om9pg9bn1w
@user-om9pg9bn1w 4 жыл бұрын
I liked the little talk
@cymtk
@cymtk 3 жыл бұрын
Convention about making technology do what you want continues to have audio/video problems always makes me laugh
@justsomenamelesssoul8097
@justsomenamelesssoul8097 2 жыл бұрын
They just don't care enough, they hacked it all together 😂
@michaelrogers3857
@michaelrogers3857 2 жыл бұрын
Its like when you're doing calculus that you forget how to do the simple stuff
@MichaelOfRohan
@MichaelOfRohan Жыл бұрын
I have to assume its blatant interference from so many pocket devices xD
@RobertHallIV
@RobertHallIV Жыл бұрын
You know what they say......Find something you truly love to do, and let it kill you! Such irony!
@davel202
@davel202 Жыл бұрын
They are required by the hotel to use a single contractor to record audio and video.
@RobertHallIV
@RobertHallIV Жыл бұрын
Man! This brings back memories! I actually spear-headed a project about 20 years ago that started with someone causing malicious interference on the US 2m 144 MHz Amateur band. It'd gotten pretty bad. The breaking point was when they started causing interference on the Public Safety bands. I'd built a Doppler RDF device and we actually used a set of 4 high speed RF switching diodes to do the antenna rotations for us. I can't recall off the top of my head, the actual wavelength spacing of the array, and I dunno why I'm thinking it was either 3/4 or a 1/2 wavelength spacing. Don't quote me on that though. But, it was really neat to turn the car around and the LEDs would change position to point us in the right direction of the signal. Good to see that young people are still into these fascinating hobbies! 73 de AK4FM
@jplacido9999
@jplacido9999 Жыл бұрын
What happened, then.....?
@Willam_J
@Willam_J 6 жыл бұрын
THIS is how you do an SDR presentation. Explain what it is, give interesting examples and show how to do it. Unlike other videos where people just stand there with their SDR and tell you about all the cool stuff you can do with them. I'm going to check if this guy has written any books on the subject. I wish I could sit down with him for a couple of hours and learn from him. SDR's aren't exactly plug-and-play. I've been into SDR for a while now and the learning curve is steep, even though I am an EE with a lot of RF experience.
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
wot like spit fie aah carnet eer ritz hea?
@ancientapparition1638
@ancientapparition1638 5 жыл бұрын
u wot
@intoxicatorized
@intoxicatorized 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-nx8vp5sy5d pics or it didn't happen :)
@pozloadescobar
@pozloadescobar 2 жыл бұрын
If you still find SDR interesting, consider reaching out to the guy. The world is smaller than you think, and paying a consultation fee makes it even smaller
@carteldebellamy677
@carteldebellamy677 Жыл бұрын
Any books you could recommend?
@StevePotter-G6HOQ
@StevePotter-G6HOQ 10 жыл бұрын
great talk, clever chap too
@hanselito2416
@hanselito2416 Жыл бұрын
I love how completely happy he is talking about letting his PHD slide, and its because he has a passion for what hes doing now lol. Most people would be tripping about the phd thing I think
@caseylocke4474
@caseylocke4474 4 жыл бұрын
12:00 - Every once in a while, I get something right because I actually know about it and it makes me so happy. The moment he played that noise, I said out loud, "That's a digital pager transmission." When he confirmed it, I said, "Awww yeah."
@JROrg2009
@JROrg2009 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent 90 mins, great SDR and RF info, and an interesting speaker in Balint Seeber.
@TieMajor
@TieMajor 8 жыл бұрын
That guy reminds me of Richards Hendriks in the Silicon Valey TV show
@carteldebellamy677
@carteldebellamy677 Жыл бұрын
This is a great presentation and it's well put together. Awesome speaker
@BeamerE30
@BeamerE30 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation!
@ericblair3009
@ericblair3009 Жыл бұрын
skipping the PHD after finding SDR.... VERY SMART move..... GOOD on you!! Over all GREAT talk!!1
@stebwald7971
@stebwald7971 Жыл бұрын
YOU SIR, ARE SOME SORT OF KING!!!
@mossdem
@mossdem Жыл бұрын
Awesome talk. Guy just dealt with the scuff lol! Knew nothing about any of this prior but really interesting talk!
@tomperone9338
@tomperone9338 8 ай бұрын
The trouble with SDR is that there's just so much you do, that it's akin to drinking out of a fire hose. That said, it's a lot of fun and a great learning experience. This presentation is fantastic!
@tonyppe
@tonyppe 6 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting, very smart.
@marcomartinez9387
@marcomartinez9387 3 жыл бұрын
Very good 👍 talk made SDR interesting and fun
@jformaldehydem
@jformaldehydem 10 жыл бұрын
I don't wish to give nefarious hackers any ideas, but he mentioned that to damage a TWTA you need some pretty serious gear, but what if you were to override the feedback signal? You wouldn't need a very strong transmitter to do that, and you'd be saying to the official transmitter "MORE POWER!". Looking forward to getting a duplex SDR once this new project comes out. At the moment I'm just learning with my R820T.
@ChaplainDaveSparks
@ChaplainDaveSparks 16 сағат бұрын
That DF antenna array looks a lot like the _"LoJack"_ stolen car finder that many police agencies (at least here in Southern California) use. If I remember correctly, there is one antenna in the center and four at 90 degrees around a circle.
@ddavies5125
@ddavies5125 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk
@DayDreamingFullTime
@DayDreamingFullTime 3 жыл бұрын
All these hackers in one room an nobody could figure out how to use a projector
@myid9876543
@myid9876543 Жыл бұрын
It was too simple so they brought in a conference center media multiplexer as a challenge just like the heist con episode of Rick and Morty
@kayboku7281
@kayboku7281 2 жыл бұрын
that was awesome! thanks very much!
@hashbrunz
@hashbrunz 3 жыл бұрын
wholesome crowd
@AdMan-The-LabRat
@AdMan-The-LabRat 5 жыл бұрын
My gawd man, whenever do you have time for pron? I just woke up and crawled out from under a rock, and only familiar with the acronym and my vivid imagination's interpretation of SDR + now I'm an hour in, got you at 1.5 speed absolutely fascinated by your passionate presentation, congrats that you found your calling, THANK YOU for Sharing! Please... Stay Healthy, Well and Motivated!
@noughyou2841
@noughyou2841 10 жыл бұрын
45 minutes is some of the coolest shit I have ever seen! He maps airplanes coming in and out of the airport via radio signals
@antfry256
@antfry256 5 жыл бұрын
Epic!. I want to do this now! :)
@PiezPiedPy
@PiezPiedPy 7 жыл бұрын
brilliant talk ;)
@medadrufus
@medadrufus 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@alexwhb122
@alexwhb122 4 жыл бұрын
awesome talk
@evolve101
@evolve101 9 жыл бұрын
awesome
@nonnobissolum
@nonnobissolum 4 жыл бұрын
Fellow radio enthusiast here....overall, great stuff. Could have not flashed slides at us though, so as to save on having to hit pause...which of course wasn't an option for attendees. Thanks for posting---cheers.
@thunderbolt997
@thunderbolt997 8 жыл бұрын
i just ordered a 100Khz-1.7Ghz SDR!! cause of this video, great stuff!! probably gonna get a hackrf one when later on
@thunderbolt997
@thunderbolt997 8 жыл бұрын
***** yup it sure does :D
@thunderbolt997
@thunderbolt997 8 жыл бұрын
***** be aware in some of those you may have solder 2 very fine wires to the ic directly they are like 30 gauge i think
@thunderbolt997
@thunderbolt997 8 жыл бұрын
***** im sure you will probably find the signals of the encrypted channels good luck
@thunderbolt997
@thunderbolt997 7 жыл бұрын
***** i guess you could put the incoming data into gnu radio software and make a little program that spits out the data to a screen and you would see the hex data in text format then its up to you to decrypt it haha
@thunderbolt997
@thunderbolt997 7 жыл бұрын
but there some things that are uncrypted like old pagers and you could easily read their messages directly (use gnu radio to display the text)
@rfmonkey4942
@rfmonkey4942 3 жыл бұрын
UBNT made some some amazing cards still have em!
@ethanyager
@ethanyager Жыл бұрын
1:16:57 mortys mind blowers out here wrapping it all up made me feel like I half ass read a book or something love it inspiring
@transkryption
@transkryption 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@jajajaj666
@jajajaj666 Жыл бұрын
Good work
@AppleBag1000
@AppleBag1000 4 жыл бұрын
interesting information
@inthenameofjustice8811
@inthenameofjustice8811 9 жыл бұрын
It cracks me up when a room full of hackers cannot get simple stuff to work. It proves they are human like the rest of us. I just ordered SDR from eBay for the incredible sum of just over £5.
@snooks5607
@snooks5607 5 жыл бұрын
who cannot get what to work? is your main computer also a $5 RPi Zero?
@rfmonkey4942
@rfmonkey4942 3 жыл бұрын
yea fantastic !
@LemonChieff
@LemonChieff 5 жыл бұрын
That's so cool :o
@fuzzymath6240
@fuzzymath6240 2 жыл бұрын
10:23 I just need to bookmark here.....I hope he does come back to it. I didn't catch what the guy in the audience said but it sure sounds interesting.
@excitedbox5705
@excitedbox5705 5 жыл бұрын
The fast track could cost someone a lot of money if you just keep transmitting their ID all day long. Or get them speeding tickets if you know when they get on the toll road and submit their ID at an exit a few minutes later. At least the PA toll road going to Allentown used to send out tickets to cars reaching the exit too fast. Maybe even get truckers for driving too many hours? The options are endless.These radios can also be used to get unlock codes for cars. Jam the signal while intersepting the lock code sent to the car and when the person presses the button again you repeat the first lock code and hold on to the second one use to unlock the car once they walk away. for newer cars where they are time stamped proximity based ones you boost the signal to wherever the person is back to their car a few blocks away to unlock it.
@FASTPISTOLDRAW
@FASTPISTOLDRAW 2 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to decode p25 audio witch is legal in my state of FL to decode for 3 yrs. finally got a second rtl str I have reached a point to were I can decode about 10 % audibly. and am now stuck at trying to decode the other 90% I am now having issues with software .
@stebwald7971
@stebwald7971 Жыл бұрын
I NEED YOUR HELP WITH THE MOST INCREDIBLE SITUATION!!!
@supernenechi
@supernenechi 3 жыл бұрын
It will be a sad day when all of this stuff is encrypted
@barkeeper7887
@barkeeper7887 3 жыл бұрын
DutchEllie never thought about that, but you’re right
@Nudnik88
@Nudnik88 Жыл бұрын
I love how all these smart guys still struggle to get a laptop screen on the beamer 😀
@HackersOnBoard
@HackersOnBoard 4 жыл бұрын
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@lightwarriors7778
@lightwarriors7778 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that...thanks for all that you do. Keep up the good fight! Let me know how to reach out outside of the tube. Thanks
@paranoidzkitszo
@paranoidzkitszo Жыл бұрын
What is the background noise that is heard from mid way in the presenttion?Specifically this sound that is heard in the background 1:06:40
@hotvitlon6669
@hotvitlon6669 8 жыл бұрын
can anyone tell me which board is best bangs for your bucks. I want to setup openbts for education purpose, and the rest is everyday use of sdr, e.g Sattelites, airplanes, radar... e.t.c im looking at the b200 but there's an e110 selling for a decent price. thank you
@alexandervonhansen8054
@alexandervonhansen8054 10 жыл бұрын
i love the part at 15:15 too funy
@peerfunk
@peerfunk 9 жыл бұрын
i didnt see starbucks time but beer time ;)
@klausstock8020
@klausstock8020 Ай бұрын
I expected a video about hacking RFZs vie radio; all I knew so far were wired RFZs (high-performance RFZs which need quite a bit of electrical power). No mentioning of RFZs in the video...
@Dragiux
@Dragiux 5 жыл бұрын
The noise in background sounds like an encoded signal. I wonder if that was intended or just random noise.
@Reth_Hard
@Reth_Hard 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you were joking but I found a pattern in that noise and it seems to be repeating every 3m33 or so. After translating each bits, this is what I got: "oHg5SJYRHA0" I don't know what it means tho...
@FlatFact
@FlatFact 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reth_Hard "oHg5SJYRHA0" kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pa6XaLZ7vriscWQ.html = 3m33.
@Reth_Hard
@Reth_Hard 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlatFact Gotcha! :P
@FlatFact
@FlatFact 4 жыл бұрын
@@Reth_Hard haha
@antfry256
@antfry256 5 жыл бұрын
What software is he running? Wish he would go into more detail about the equipment and software.
@antfry256
@antfry256 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone know any valuable resources for learning more about RF. I've been intrigued.
@DaRealNim
@DaRealNim 4 жыл бұрын
There are so much software and hardware available if you wanna mess with SDR, and in so much price ranges. I read that the HackRF One from great Scott's gadgets is good for beginners. It covers a large frequency range (1Mhz to 6Ghz if I'm correct), and it's affordable, compared to other RF transceivers (about $200 for the official one, but since it's open source, I'm sure you can find unofficial copies even cheaper). Plus, it's compatible with GNU Radio and most radio softwares. I'm planning on buying a HackRF as soon as I have some money c:
@user-vn9ld2ce1s
@user-vn9ld2ce1s Жыл бұрын
The irony of listening to noise/interference while watching a talk about radios...
@kornbread5359
@kornbread5359 4 жыл бұрын
What if we could combine the 3 types of modulation into a single one, with no interference. Then theoretically we could transmit a shitload of data really fast.
@kornbread5359
@kornbread5359 4 жыл бұрын
Hypothetically, just a thought.
@rob86353
@rob86353 3 жыл бұрын
@@kornbread5359 - First: clever choice of name. Second: You are on the right track - I recall reading an article describing a similar technique being used in a somewhat novel RF transciever. I'll summarize briefly, as I can't find the article (maybe you'll have better luck?). A major constraint on bandwidth is frequency space - if one guy is talking on a channel, others can't be, so it becomes a competition. RF antennas, as conventionally designed, are receiving (interacting with/modulating in accordance to) the electric charge component of the transmitted signal. However, electromagnetic signals are electromagnetic - they have both an oscillation in electrical and in magnetic field. The magnetic portion of the signal reflects information content of the electric, however it is out of phase with the electric portion by some offset, determined by the transmitting antennas design. What was realized is that an antenna circuit could be designed to capture both the electric and magnetic state simultaneously, allowing that offset to be measured in real time. Simultaneously, they designed an antenna where the offset could be tuned. This means that (potentially in combination with techniques such as mimo) multiple devices could be transmitting on the same frequency at the same time, without use of time division, and the individual signals could be isolated. Potentially thousands of signals (or more) could be overlapped on the same carrier. ... I really wish I could remember the insititute name, because I'd love to know how that's progressing.
@thornsitha
@thornsitha 4 жыл бұрын
How to get that slide? can i give slide?
@seejaybee
@seejaybee 2 жыл бұрын
Hopelessly inadequate on implementation detail
@qaz010wsx
@qaz010wsx 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Hendricks?!
@paulgrosse7631
@paulgrosse7631 5 жыл бұрын
at 1:33, it sounds like VOR
@imbatman8472
@imbatman8472 4 жыл бұрын
you would think these nerds could do a presentation without static.
@cynthiamadden5359
@cynthiamadden5359 Жыл бұрын
3. MicroSoft\MacroSort ❤️😭
@pimdubuf3272
@pimdubuf3272 10 жыл бұрын
I'm currently using a modified uniden scanner with direct discriminator output. But let's just say the sdr dongle is in the mail :D.
@pimdubuf3272
@pimdubuf3272 10 жыл бұрын
Also, great talk.
@stavroshouiris
@stavroshouiris Жыл бұрын
Left - Right = Sides for anyone wondering
@gunslingerfourtysix
@gunslingerfourtysix 7 жыл бұрын
What was the question asked by someone in the front row when Balint called out " Yeah but that would be illegal" ??? @ 10:25
@zforce69
@zforce69 7 жыл бұрын
He asked if you could broadcast back on that frequency.
@googleSux
@googleSux 9 жыл бұрын
A event full of the best hackers and the poor speaker has to put up with this nonsense?
@Willam_J
@Willam_J 6 жыл бұрын
Cone Head - A lot of DefCon talks are like this. They gather hundreds of the best hackers in the world together and they can't make a video projector work. SMH
@brainndamage
@brainndamage 6 жыл бұрын
Someone probably DOSed it.
@forrift7845
@forrift7845 6 жыл бұрын
Lol noob
@educatedmanholecoverbyrich8890
@educatedmanholecoverbyrich8890 4 жыл бұрын
+/- 4KHz ? For narrow ban. If I had that sort of drift, then I would take that back to the maker. Least yo can do is use a 10MHz referenced to a GPS signal for a +/- 0.1Hz stability.
@paaao
@paaao 6 жыл бұрын
Something a flat earther would have never been able to do.
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
wivoota parashoot gp ez?
@sock_dgram8594
@sock_dgram8594 4 жыл бұрын
I actually had a several months long E-Mail discussion with a flat earther where I finally convinced him that satellites are not balloons after he measured their Doppler shift with an RTL-SDR. He thought they were really fast planes then, so I was not entirely successful.
@bernatrosello4375
@bernatrosello4375 4 жыл бұрын
funny how he asks if his mic is ok and a guy just goes "whoooo" lol
@aheriady
@aheriady 3 жыл бұрын
After launched raphael RTL2832, all rf wave are easy to seen and plus software support, hacking mire eazy
@JP-os7ph
@JP-os7ph 4 ай бұрын
AI is going to kick even hackers butts? Right?
@_____7704
@_____7704 Жыл бұрын
1:15:17 - The Elephant Cages
@craigsspot1
@craigsspot1 2 жыл бұрын
Like who or what runs this, cant explain cuz of poor Q
@ehtkhr
@ehtkhr 4 жыл бұрын
1:23:09 - You didn't say 'dirp' you said 'determine'
@craigsspot1
@craigsspot1 2 жыл бұрын
All this and they loose a jet airliner, all the lives lost. This don't matter too haters.
@americancitizen748
@americancitizen748 4 жыл бұрын
This guy needs to work for NASA.
@brandiseroberts5637
@brandiseroberts5637 5 жыл бұрын
True horror = 3am you awake to this guy halfway inside your bedroom window.."scuse me, would you care to see my slides?" 0....w....0
@blind1337nedm
@blind1337nedm 4 жыл бұрын
holy fuck i cant afford an USRP. id rather build my own crap for that price and learn more.
@ConvictJ96
@ConvictJ96 3 жыл бұрын
That was all sorts of awkward. Especially how he's way to tall for the mic stand and he has to hunch over to get to the mic.
@danielkvapp9139
@danielkvapp9139 4 жыл бұрын
18:01 but why doesn't the GPS in a Smartphone work in plane high altitude?
@dvergar1
@dvergar1 4 жыл бұрын
They often do. But you are inside a metal tube (not exactly a Faraday cage, but still more opaque to RF than, say, your flat), so the very weak GNSS signal may not be picked up well by your phone's receiver. If you use a bluetooth external GNSS receiver, and you push it up against the window, you can probably get decent signal. BTW, that's also the reason GPS doesn't work underwater.
@rainyday6790
@rainyday6790 2 жыл бұрын
Because the earth is flat...
@nativeit_
@nativeit_ 8 ай бұрын
Civilian GPS is automatically disabled for any device that’s traveling over 1200mph, or is above 59,000ft. It’s to prevent it from being used by rogue/unsanctioned ballistic missiles. It wouldn’t be relevant on a commercial aircraft, but still fun.
@Exceedvictory
@Exceedvictory 2 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy. Quick question… There’s a frequency in my home that sounds like uhf or vhf that is either somehow about to read my mind or hear the low waves of me thinking out aloud. Have you ever heard of this and any idea on how to combat such a thing? Thanks.
@infiniteglitterfall
@infiniteglitterfall 2 жыл бұрын
what do uhf and vhf sound like?
@surlydirtbag
@surlydirtbag 2 жыл бұрын
Stop telling people. You're going to make us angry.
@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429
@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429 10 ай бұрын
You have schizophrenia my friend. Please seek a mental health specialist.
@michaelfaber1727
@michaelfaber1727 8 жыл бұрын
dood could you just let it go it was misplaced.
@daveb5041
@daveb5041 6 жыл бұрын
I like the people on youtube tht buy a SDR dongle know nothing about computers and make a video saying how they know how to do all this stuff not realizing you need a BS and hundreds of hours of time to do this stuff.
@medicalstudioimt3031
@medicalstudioimt3031 Жыл бұрын
No need to hack it, just listen.
@evianavazquez6917
@evianavazquez6917 3 жыл бұрын
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@sorincaldararu6665
@sorincaldararu6665 3 жыл бұрын
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@idget5
@idget5 9 жыл бұрын
EW!
@smallerfreeze
@smallerfreeze 5 жыл бұрын
This dude knows earth is not a spinning sphere
@PhilipChandler
@PhilipChandler 4 жыл бұрын
"...are belong to me". I presume English isn't your first language?
@lucaslacerda8469
@lucaslacerda8469 4 жыл бұрын
It's a meme.
@reneedolefinley6654
@reneedolefinley6654 5 жыл бұрын
What can a simple person buy to stop/block hackers from blocking TV signal radio signals cellphone signals with this tech??? 14 months now I have no communication from own home...no thanks to this. Tech.
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 4 жыл бұрын
Renee Dole Finley Besides a tall pole with great directionality, getting relevant authorities to identify disturbing transmitters blocking your reception is probably your best bet.
@lancethrustworthy
@lancethrustworthy 3 жыл бұрын
The speaker needs to learn about microphones. Sheesh! 6:12 He should have left the mics alone!! He's a sophisticated hacker....and he can't deal with modern podium mics? So - today's lesson: 'Some hackers are idiots'. Thank you. Good night.
@Wornbat
@Wornbat 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome Presentation. that rainbow effect as you called it @51mins looks to me as a cemtrailing plane. (they spray the sky with chemicals and it looks like lines across the sky. This is happening all over the world.
@notsure9355
@notsure9355 4 жыл бұрын
Forced me to look up 'cemtrailing plane'. I had no idea people could believe such nonsence. I feel very sorry for you 'Sir'. Here is hoping you are not late for school tomorrow.
@zephyrp8836
@zephyrp8836 Жыл бұрын
you mean a trail of condensation, right? RIGHT?
@shebby0204
@shebby0204 5 жыл бұрын
The government should ban these sort of devices
@mblake0420
@mblake0420 5 жыл бұрын
paul anthony bulao booooooo
@mblake0420
@mblake0420 5 жыл бұрын
Gov shouldn't ban anything
@kirkhamandy
@kirkhamandy 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the government should also ban locksmiths? Or perhaps the gov should insist on people and companies secure their shit properly. You can't ban these devices because even if you did, there's still electronics outlets to make them and criminals will do just that. By banning it you just sweep the problem under the carpet where criminals can better hide. It's highly small minded of you to call "ban it". Unless you're a criminal trying to stay covered and not have these security lapses found and fixed?
@kimdotnet2110
@kimdotnet2110 5 жыл бұрын
they're passive (listen-only) devices. As long as you're only receiving and not transmitting, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean, the radio waves are willfully being transmitted out, and technically are 'trespassing' onto the listening device, and unencrypted at that. So yeah.
@mblake0420
@mblake0420 5 жыл бұрын
I know I didnt type bulau booo....wtf is that
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