HACKSAW RIDGE Absolutely BROKE Me ***FIRST TIME WATCHING ***

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Rhetorical Thrill

Rhetorical Thrill

8 ай бұрын

I feel like if someone tried to pass this off as a made up story, every studio would turn it down as too unbelievable...
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@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I want to express my immeasurable gratitude to the veterans today and every day for your service to our country
@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames
@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames 8 ай бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks aren't necessary, but are always appreciated.
@ItsMe-cz1pi
@ItsMe-cz1pi 8 ай бұрын
It is a true story. What was left out was Desmond rolling off the stretcher and making them take others in worse shape. While he was waiting, a sniper shot him in the arm. Apparently Mel Gibson left it out because he thought the audience would think it was made up.
@ChicagoDB
@ChicagoDB 8 ай бұрын
“Taking Chance” ~ starring Kevin Bacon…perfect for Veterans/Remembrance or Memorial Day…an incredibly moving film…it’s only about 90 minutes long. No blood/gore…you’ll love it.
@kennethlee3458
@kennethlee3458 8 ай бұрын
He saved more then 75 he really saved over 100 us men and some Japanese men but they were killed after he got them down
@matthewcharles5867
@matthewcharles5867 6 ай бұрын
We had a stretcher bearer from our area in the 1st ww who was awarded the military medal for bravery 4 times . He was the only person to be awarded that medal that many times in British and commonwealth history. He was always very proud of the fact he got them for saving lives. Ernest corey mm and 3 bars.
@Metzwerg74
@Metzwerg74 8 ай бұрын
"how true, remains to be seen..." they actually toned down all of the stuff, that he actually did, because they thought the audience would not believe it... but Doss actually did far more than pictured here... this is actually a movie that took made the reality look smaller and less heroic, than it really was... so glad that you react to this masterpiece...
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
That is amazing! I will have to go look up more about Mr. Doss's life, I can't believe he isn't a more prominent historical figure. Though I imagine he wouldn't even want to be.
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill It’s a shame he actually lived quite a hard life after the war. He ended up with TB and was hospitalized for five years. He was permanently disabled from the war, and later went deaf from antibiotics for several years (he regained his hearing after a cochlear implant). Still though he managed to raise a family and run a small farm. He was married to Dorothy for almost 50 years until she was killed in a car accident. He remarried, and died in 2006 at the age of 87.
@fenix6297
@fenix6297 3 ай бұрын
100%. It's one of those stories that was only made into a movie because it actually happened - otherwise, it would have been rejected as too unbelievable.
@body_by_depuy
@body_by_depuy 8 ай бұрын
I spent 24 years in the U.S. Army, 13 of them as a medic. I can tell you that Desmond Doss is an absolute legend in the Army Medical Department. Every combat medic hears about him in their training and every session ends the exact same way, in silence with a room full of soldiers weeping.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
That’s wonderful to hear 💜 And thank you for your service!
@stonecoldku4161
@stonecoldku4161 8 ай бұрын
The army actually credited Doss with bringing around 150 soldiers down, Doss said he thought it was closer to 50, so they split the difference and credited him 75.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
There were actually MORE???
@stonecoldku4161
@stonecoldku4161 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrillPossibly
@willbeonekenobi
@willbeonekenobi 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill You've got to remember that he was doing it for seemingly days without a break or sleep.
@MrLovegrove
@MrLovegrove 7 ай бұрын
​@@RhetoricalThrilland I think that's only what he was credited for during this particular battle. It doesn't count what he did before this. Also, his injuries were far more severe and numerous than what was shown. I think I remember a story of him crawling off a stretcher at one point to let another soldier be carried off to safety.
@JaeMinJung.
@JaeMinJung. 8 ай бұрын
You gotta understand Desmond's father more, the man probably has PTSD from WW1. My grandpops was the same one he served in WW2, heard how he ripped my mom's school notebook because she didn't finish her homework on time, how he locked my mom and her siblings out of the house just because they came home late from school practice, etc. This is the same man who went out of his way to protect my mom when her former spouse (not my dad) cheated on her pulling out a bolo knife on said cheater (no one was unalived), this is the same man who when he found out my sister's school project was thrown in the dumps by teacher went and confronted the teacher then helped my sister make her project step by step back from scratch. My grandmama always said that before the war grandpops was a very joyful person and was always there ready to lend a hand to their neighbors when wartime came there was no hesitation from him but when he came back she said he was like a whole different person he didn't physically abuse her and all but he would be very dismissive and his mood would always changes she never saw him crack a smile ever since and the only time he did is when he said "I'm glad my kids could live a happy and peaceful life away from me"
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
You’re right of course, it’s much more complicated than a movie can show, and when I watch I respond to what we’re shown. He clearly cares about his family but was also fighting terrible demons. Though it can never excuse abusive or violent behavior, what he went through certainly explains it.
@gingerbreadman1969
@gingerbreadman1969 8 ай бұрын
You: the fact that they can turn around and go back says a lot about these people.. Me: That's why they're known as the greatest generation ever. 🙌❤️
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
So much courage, during and after
@JoeBLOWFHB
@JoeBLOWFHB 8 ай бұрын
There is one thing the movie got wrong the men under Desmond's care already knew he wasn't a coward as he had already been awarded two Bronze stars with "V" device for valor under fire months before Hacksaw. He also did a lot of stuff not shown in the movie but listed in his MoH citation. Desmond Doss Medal of Honor citation - "He was a company aidman when the 1st Battalion assaulted a jagged escarpment 400 feet high. As our troops gained the summit, a heavy concentration of artillery, mortar, and machine-gun fire crashed into them, inflicting approximately 75 casualties and driving the others back. Pfc. Doss refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken, carrying them one by one to the edge of the escarpment and there lowering them on a rope-supported litter down the face of a cliff to friendly hands. On 2 May, he exposed himself to heavy rifle and mortar fire in rescuing a wounded man 200 yards forward of the lines on the same escarpment; and two days later he treated four men who had been cut down while assaulting a strongly defended cave, advancing through a shower of grenades to within eight yards of enemy forces in a cave's mouth, where he dressed his comrades' wounds before making four separate trips under fire to evacuate them to safety. On 5 May, he unhesitatingly braved enemy shelling and small-arms fire to assist an artillery officer. He applied bandages, moved his patient to a spot that offered protection from small-arms fire, and, while artillery and mortar shells fell close by, painstakingly administered plasma. Later that day, when an American was severely wounded by fire from a cave, Pfc. Doss crawled to him where he had fallen 25 feet from the enemy position, rendered aid, and carried him 100 yards to safety while continually exposed to enemy fire. On 21 May, in a night attack on high ground near Shuri, he remained in exposed territory while the rest of his company took cover, fearlessly risking the chance that he would be mistaken for an infiltrating Japanese and giving aid to the injured until he was himself seriously wounded in the legs by the explosion of a grenade. Rather than call another aidman from cover, he cared for his own injuries and waited five hours before litter bearers reached him and started carrying him to cover. The trio was caught in an enemy tank attack and Pfc. Doss, seeing a more critically wounded man nearby, crawled off the litter and directed the bearers to give their first attention to the other man. Awaiting the litter bearers' return, he was again struck, this time suffering a compound fracture of one arm. With magnificent fortitude he bound a rifle stock to his shattered arm as a splint and then crawled 300 yards over rough terrain to the aid station. Through his outstanding bravery and unflinching determination in the face of desperately dangerous conditions Pfc. Doss saved the lives of many soldiers. His name became a symbol throughout the 77th Infantry Division for outstanding gallantry far above and beyond the call of duty.” Look up "Desmond Doss This is Your Life" here on YT to meet Desmond his family and some of the men her saved. Above all you get to see how truly humble he was.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
And all that was BEFORE Hacksaw? This man truly was one of a kind 😲
@JoeBLOWFHB
@JoeBLOWFHB 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill No, this MoH citation only covers his actions on Okinawa his Bronze stars were awarded for similar conduct under fire in different parts of the Pacific. He was on Okinawa for about a month. The movie condensed his time into what seemed like a few days. He wasn't injured by the grenade until the 21st of May. In real life the grenade happened at night he did try to kick it away. Gibson claimed Doss's real story was unbelievable. I think a reading of his citation at the end of the movie would have been proof enough. Medals of Honor aren't handed out on a whim or rumor they require corroborated testimony (in the form of official reports) from multiple witnesses, the higher the rank the better. You should watch "The Pacific" and "Band of Brothers" they are both 10 part series covering both theaters of war.
@garylogan3640
@garylogan3640 8 ай бұрын
Hollywood changes... The main one was that Hacksaw was not that unit's first combat, and Doss had already earned their respect. They saw action on Guam and in the Philippines, where Doss was twice awarded the Bronze Star, and received 2 Purple Hearts (he received a 3rd Purple Heart on Hacksaw).
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
It does make it a bit more dramatic, so I get it.
@thejamppa
@thejamppa 8 ай бұрын
Doss as person was amazing. What kind of strength he must have had. I myself served as combat medic so this hits closer and harder. Also because my grandfather served as medic in WW2 and things he saw in there was... Enough to break him completely. Like grandmother said: He went war but never came back. He only found peace when he ended his own life. I appreciate this film for not glorying war and showing its more gruesome aspects. Like Sherman said "War is hell".
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service, and I'm sorry about your grandfather. There are far too many who are so haunted by those experiences. I don't think the things combat medics see can be imagined by people who haven't been there.
@stonecoldku4161
@stonecoldku4161 8 ай бұрын
There is an older movie about the most decorated American soldier of WW2 Audie Murphy called "To Hell and Back." What's unique about that film is that Audie Murphy stars as himself in the film.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Interesting! I've not heard about that one
@MrLovegrove
@MrLovegrove 7 ай бұрын
​@@RhetoricalThrillhe's another one you should read up on. I think he was one of the most decorated soldiers in history. He was basically Steve Rogers from the first Captain America movie without ever getting the super soldier serum. And still managing to do superhero things anyway.
@oldladygamer3187
@oldladygamer3187 8 ай бұрын
He saved more than that, estimates are over one hundred on Hacksaw alone, but by then he had already been through two other battles and had medals from both. When he was wounded and being carried on the stretcher he saw another wounded man, rolled to the ground and insisted the medics take the other man. He then proceeded to crawl to the aid station over 100 yards away and was shot in the arm suffering a broken bone, he used the stock of a rifle to set his own arm and crawl the rest of the way. At the end of the movie you can see in one of the pictures there's a cast on his left arm. I suggest reading up on his medals and watching the documentary The Contentious Objector. He was a rare, amazing man.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, I will!
@deborahcornell171
@deborahcornell171 8 ай бұрын
Another astounding part of the story...there were Japanese soldiers who later gave accounts of trying to shoot Desmond (they had seen this one lone medic repeatedly returning) but every time they tried, their guns jammed. It beggars belief, but I believe it.💙✝️☮
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
You know at this point, it wouldn’t surprise me
@daustin8888
@daustin8888 8 ай бұрын
Japanese soldier: I got him in my sights. GOD: Yes, but no
@BouillaBased
@BouillaBased 8 ай бұрын
The most frightening thing is what one human will do to another, even when they've done nothing to deserve it. And the most inspiring thing is what one human will do for another, even when they've done nothing to deserve it.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful sentiment 💜
@cayminlast
@cayminlast 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest and heartfelt reaction. It's difficult for me to watch movies like this, it's theraputic in a way but also super emotional, always reminds me of buddies I served with so many years ago.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, also many thanks to you and your fellow service members. May your fallen friends rest in peace 💜
@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames
@GrumpyOldGuyPlaysGames 8 ай бұрын
Desmond Doss is considered the greatest Combat Medic in the history of the US Army. Hacksaw Ridge was his last battle, not his first, and during his service he saved the lives of over 300 of his fellow soldiers in total. In addition, he did some things that Gibson decided not to include for fear that the viewing audience just would not believe. The Desmond Doss Military Hospital in Honolulu was named after him. Its the only American miliary hospital in the world named after a combat medic. Also, Desmond Doss was not the first Conscientious Objector to be awarded the Medal of Honor, he was the second. The first was Alvin York, a soldier in World War I. York, like Doss, managed to do things tha would be considered impossible under normal conditions.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Just incredible. The movie and your guys’s comments definitely make me want to learn more about this man!
@johannesvalterdivizzini1523
@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 7 ай бұрын
My dad served as a volunteer for 8 years, covering WWII and Korea. His father was a doughboy, injured in France in WWI. Everybody I knew did something in service during WWII. I had an uncle I never met, who was a highly decorated pilot shot down "somewhere over the Pacific Ocean" but who was able to save his crew. My Aunt was a doctor and a war widow who never remarried, had no kids, but worked for 40 years until her death as an oncologist in Veteran's Administration Hospitals. Those wars don't seem like ancient history to me.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 7 ай бұрын
It’s a vital part of human history and should never be forgotten 💜
@firegod001
@firegod001 8 ай бұрын
I just saw this for the first time a few days ago and I loved it. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I knew you wouldn't be able to keep the eyes from tearing up, with that big squishy heart of yours.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
It is very squishy 🤣 Thank you for being here!
@stephenweaver7631
@stephenweaver7631 8 ай бұрын
I've always marveled at the Greatest Generation for going through the hell of WWII and coming home and, regardless of PTSD, Shell Shock, or Combat Fatigue, made lives for themselves, raised families, and rebuilt this country. They were a different, unique body of men and women.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
The stuff people go through is unfathomable, the human spirit is an incredible thing
@ProdSangreNueva
@ProdSangreNueva 8 ай бұрын
Best Mel Gibson directed movie to date. I love Braveheart but hats off to this film.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
He knows what he's doing, that's for sure!
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 6 ай бұрын
Okinawa wasn't Doss's first combat. He was also in The Battle for Guam, and The Battle of Leyte. He received 2 Bronze Stars, and 3 Purple Hearts, besides the MoH.
@cooldude913
@cooldude913 8 ай бұрын
What a well made, brutal film based on a remarkable true story on a commendable war hero. Don't blame you for reacting to this the way you did. ❤
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Yes, remarkable indeed! Thank you as always for being here 💜
@cooldude913
@cooldude913 8 ай бұрын
@RhetoricalThrill And thank you for being you! I can't say I speak for every viewer of your content, but your film reactions are honestly my favorites to watch. They more often than not put a smile on my face, and even when they don't, it's just a delight to see your honest reactions. Keep up the good work. I wish nothing but the best for you and your channel going forward!
@user-ss2ci9ms9x
@user-ss2ci9ms9x 6 ай бұрын
US Army Combat Veteran here. I've been blessed to have been on hundreds of combat missions and never lost a man. Sometimes I feel like a badass, but then you are reminded of people like Doss. Holy crap!!! What a legend!!!
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 6 ай бұрын
A legend indeed! How we don’t learn about him in school is baffling.
@jackspry9736
@jackspry9736 8 ай бұрын
RIP Desmond Doss (February 7, 1919 - March 23, 2006), aged 87 You will be remembered as a hero.
@wasabi5338
@wasabi5338 8 ай бұрын
i dont care what anyone says, he is the real Captain America. Not carried by serum and muscles, but by faith and conviction.
@jasonpratt3970
@jasonpratt3970 8 ай бұрын
This movie jacked me up- I’m not ready for a reaction. Good on you for checking it out!
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Totally understand! Thank you for feeding the algorithm 😂
@micheletrainor1601
@micheletrainor1601 8 ай бұрын
It might interest you to know that Desmond Doss had tuberculosis at the time of hacksaw ridge so he had to stiffle his coughing so as not to give away his location while saving them he was diagnosed while in the V.A hospital and lost a lung to it. It took nearly 9hours to find his bible and his brothers in arms would not rest till they found it other battalions joined in the search because of what he did for them all. I HIGHLY recommend his autobiography as there is so much more to his story as by the time of the ridge he was already a seasoned soldier as he served in the Pacific and was twice awarded the bronze star for the lives he saved there too. Mel Gibson left out so much of what happened up on the ridge as he thought if he put it all in nobody would believe a word of any of it as it.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I can kind of understand Gibson’s choice there 😮
@micheletrainor1601
@micheletrainor1601 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrillMel Gibson said that even though he is a very religious man himself he still found it all hard to believe honestly read D.Doss's autobiography as its absolutely incredible. He actually saved according to his commaders just over a hundred men but Desmond being the humble man he was asked for just 50 on his citation for his medal of honour so they reached a compromise at 75 but in his military career in WW2 he saved 300 men altogether. Truly a incredible man, book and movie.
@texastea.2734
@texastea.2734 8 ай бұрын
To save time the movie didnt show that by the time doss went to hacksaw he already fought at the battles of guam and Leyte gulf so he was very well experienced, and at hacksaw the medics said he has saved more then 125 but doss said it couldn’t have been more then 50 so they compromised at 75, during the battle unknown to him he contracted tuberculosis in Leyte so he was doing all this on one lung, and him getting wounded is even more crazy while being carried back he ordered the stretchers to pick up a more wounded man after this he crawled his way back to the cliff along the way he was helped up by a friend and whike being carried he was hit in the arm by a sniper (hence the cast in the picture) and then survived a tank attack before being lowered down. Thats just one thing they toned for this film
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
It’s an unbelievable story, what an extraordinary man he was
@texastea.2734
@texastea.2734 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill as an old saying goes “truth is stranger then fiction”, after the war he tried being a handy man but due to his wounds, he would be provided a pension and so he ran a small farm to provide for his family
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 6 ай бұрын
His father acted the way he did because he had been in the 1st World War, and had what they then called "Shell Shock". In WWII they called it "Combat Fatigue", and now refer to it as PTSD. Many won't fight because of the Commandment, however that particular version of the Bible/Torah/Quran numbers it, "Thou Shalt Not Kill", is a mistranslation. Going from Ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, to whatever the vernacular, the word in Greek that is "Murder", can be translated as "kill". So the actual Commandment is ""Do NOT Murder". Killing in war is not considered murder.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 6 ай бұрын
I’m guessing that’s something Desmond wrestled with, it does seem like the “no taking life” thing was something he felt was a personal mandate.
@HelloThere.GeneralKenobi
@HelloThere.GeneralKenobi 5 ай бұрын
Desmond Doss fought a losing battle long before he saw true combat. He became a hero in many ways. 32:21 instantly became my favorite scene. He was not going to leave Smitty’s body up there to be forgotten.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 5 ай бұрын
😭
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 8 ай бұрын
What I love about your channel is how real you are during your reactions. You tell it like it is good or bad, and you’re never afraid to show your true feelings and emotions. With hilarious one-liners interspersed throughout. I’m so glad I found your channel, and you’ve quickly established yourself as one of my favorite reactors ever.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
That is an honor, truly. I’m happy you’re enjoying it here and I’m so glad to have you! 😊
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill Some other great WW2 movies to check out are Schindler’s List (though I’d be surprised if you haven’t seen it) and The Pianist. Both of them are based on true stories too.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
yeah, I've seen both of those, both very good but heartcrushing too @@terminallumbago6465
@keithmartin4670
@keithmartin4670 8 ай бұрын
Yes, Doss actually rolled off the first stretcher he was on so that someone who needed it more could have it. One of many things that was taken out as too unbelievable for a movie.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
If you presented this as a fiction story they'd say it was too farfetched, what a hero
@keithmartin4670
@keithmartin4670 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill Go to the Wikipedia article on Doss and read his Medal of Honor citation. I was in tears and I rarely connect that personally with military stories.
@aaronhenley4741
@aaronhenley4741 8 ай бұрын
1:52 Having never served, I’ll offer my two cents. Those who have been in war, those who have seen horrors beyond reckoning, would understand your tears. Those who mock you for them never faced combat.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you understand! It can be hard to express feeling sad about wars being fought without appearing to dismiss those who are fighting them.
@BryonLape
@BryonLape 8 ай бұрын
Andrew Garfield has portrayed two superheros. One had incredible powers, the other one was Spider-Man.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE THAT
@wasabi5338
@wasabi5338 8 ай бұрын
"With the world so bent on destroying itself, i dont think it would hurt if I try to put a piece of it back together."
@capnhands
@capnhands 8 ай бұрын
He was an angel of mercy.
@mikejaqua4604
@mikejaqua4604 8 ай бұрын
When I first watched this movie, the part that really hit me was when Desmond started to say, "One more lord. Help me get one more." I used to believe in God, but no longer do, *and yet*, when Desmond begin to repeat that short prayer over and over, I could see how he was given another measure of strength, and will enabling him to pick himself up one more time.. and one more time.. and one more time. 😮 A bit later, the captain said to Doss, "They they may not believe like you do, but they believe so much in how you believe." That put it all in place for me. I don't believe, but his belief is something you can only stand in awe of. ❤
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I loved the captain’s line there too. It’s a lovely way of putting it 💜
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 8 ай бұрын
Fighting in the Pacific Theatre of World War Two would have been absolute hell. Imo it would have been the worst theater to fight in (aside from the Eastern Front). Between the hot and muggy climate, the terrain that was mostly dense jungle or rocky islands, risk of severe weather like typhoons and other storms, and rampant tropical diseases. Then there’s the enemy itself. Fighting the Japanese forces during World War Two would have been TERRIFYING. Firstly, they were fanatical in their devotion to the Emperor and almost never surrendered (it was considered incredibly shameful). There were even a few of them still hiding out in the jungle 30 years after the war not believing it was over. And God help those who surrendered to them. Secondly, their cruelty knew no bounds, and the atrocities they committed against enemy forces, POWs, and even civilians is beyond comprehension. Comfort women, Unit 731, Japanese hellships, and the list goes on. Some soldiers even practiced cannibalism, and President George H.W. Bush was nearly a victim of this (fortunately he was rescued). It’s not hyperbole to call their actions some of the most apalling, stomach-turning atrocities in human history. And they LOVED to target medics. Third was their tactics. They were experts at guerilla warfare, so you had to constantly worry about booby traps, ambushes, camoflaged enemy positions, and waves of enemies sprinting at you with bayonets. In short, Doss going into that environment at all, let alone with no weapons, is nothing short of badass.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
You said it, badass! The war in the Pacific seems especially hellish, for everything you mentioned. I don’t know a ton, but I did think surrender was highly unusual, so I should have known it was a feint 😞
@terminallumbago6465
@terminallumbago6465 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill Yeah they did stuff like that quite often, or they would pretend to be wounded and do the same thing. You did NOT want to find yourself a prisoner of them. Some of the things they did to people are so awful it wouldn’t be believable if it wasn’t true.
@briangreen8033
@briangreen8033 8 ай бұрын
True authenticity is hard to come by. Subscribed. Take care and God bless. ✝️
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that very much 💜 You as well!
@thetr00per30
@thetr00per30 8 ай бұрын
If you want to know more about why his dad is the way he was you should look up the battle of Belleau Wood. It was a savage battle with extraordinary casualty rates.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
The dad was such an interesting character (doubtless he was in real life too), I understand why he was tortured but personally I can’t let that justify abuse to others. Just like the movie’s central issue, so many complicated feelings.
@aviator2252
@aviator2252 8 ай бұрын
no one should defend war, but everyone needs to keep in mind that the world is not perfect and there are people in the world that want to do harm, and my job was to keep them over there attacking me and not here.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, thank you for serving
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 6 ай бұрын
The famous Prussian General and military theorist, Karl von Clausewitz said, "War is nothing but a continuation of politics with the admixture of other means".
@CannoliSasquatch
@CannoliSasquatch 8 ай бұрын
This is an incredible story. Gibson said that he even had to take stuff out of the movie such as at the end when he slaps and kicks the grenades away. Even injured Desmond saved a few more people then was taken care of himself. Great job reviewing this.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! And yes, I couldn’t believe it when I learned this was actually DOWNPLAYED 😮
@lidlett9883
@lidlett9883 8 ай бұрын
I'm adding a 2nd comment because I didn't have time to complete my fist one. To understand Thomas Doss Desmond's father. You have to understand he survived one of the bloodiest battles of WW1. The Battle of Belleau Wood. It was a 26 day long battle. That often was daily hand to hand combat in 4 feet wide trenches. In this battle the US Marines had made their first engagement. Along side the French and British. Only to be 5old by both that they were retreating. The Marine held their ground. This is where the Greman Army gave the Marines their nickname. When asked by the Greman command why they had not advanced. The comander reported back that they were fighting the American Marines who fight like Devil Dogs from hell. Refusing to give up an inch of ground. After this 26 day battle over 9000 US Marines a ND soldiers were either wounded or dead. So for Thomas Doss. He suffered greatly from PTSD. But it was considered something weak men went through and was called "shell shock" due to loud explosions causing these men to go back and relive their trauma. When these great .en came back. They were treated like dirt. Everyone thinking they could just pickup right where they had left off. Medical science had little to no interest in helping these men. For the most part they were quickly forgotten.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
That’s so sad, and depending on who you ask there’s little support or help for returning veterans even now 😔
@lidlett9883
@lidlett9883 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill the only real advancement is that we now understand it happens to about 1/3 of all combat veterans. Most unfortunately still suffer quietly alone. One day hopefully the military will require their combat soldiers to spend a year or so in therapy before being released from service. With that therapy helping them deal with trauma and civilian life.
@mikealvarez2322
@mikealvarez2322 8 ай бұрын
On the Western Front, the Germans for the most part observed rules of war. They didn't kill the wounded but instead treated them, and the did shoot medics. You will notice in Saving Private Ryan the medics were not intentionally targeted. That is historically correct. The Japanese on the other hand violated every rule of war. In the movie HACKSAW RIDGE there are at least 3 rules violated: 1. Shooting medics, 2. Using a white flag to attack 3. Killing wounded soldiers. If you watch the series The Pacific you will notice numerous violations of rules of war which later became part of the Geneva Convention. FYI Smitty is not a real person as far as I know but he does represent a man who befriended Desmond when he was in training, but was later wounded. When Desmond went back to check on him the man was dead. After that Desmond was hesitant to check on men he saved.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Oh wow, no wonder it was so horrific
@raymonddevera2796
@raymonddevera2796 8 ай бұрын
I think you would enjoy another Mel Gibson war movie is We Were Soldiers, true story of the Vietnam war. The first major battle of the war.
@jeffreygerfen2784
@jeffreygerfen2784 8 ай бұрын
It was World War II, Desmond’s Father, Tom Doss, was a World War I veteran
@oldladygamer3187
@oldladygamer3187 8 ай бұрын
A few other points...He contracted tuberculosis on one of the islands before Hacksaw, so was doing everything with diminished lung capacity. He was given very high doses of antibiotics and actually lost his hearing, which is why he speaks the way he does in the interview at the end, he got an implant later in life finally so he could hear again. He was a vegetarian back when the military didn't have vegetarian meals, he gave all the meat away to the other soldiers, so he was suffering from malnutrition at the time also. The soldier who had his legs blown off in the movie was an actual soldier who lost his legs in an IED blast, they had a mental health professional on set in case things got too rough during the filming.
@wasabi5338
@wasabi5338 8 ай бұрын
he'd trade meat with other soldiers for biscuits and rations. And would get diarrhea from trying to eat coconuts on the ground, and would almost die trying to reach the ones on treetops because of enemy snipers.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
That’s unreal. Every time I hear more of his story I’m more amazed.
@terrylewis_
@terrylewis_ 8 ай бұрын
War is awful, and I don't particularly like watching war movies. However, Hacksaw Ridge is phenomenal! I have watched it myself many times and am fairly confident I have watched every reaction on KZfaq as well. I still cry every time, I am still touched every time. In regard to your Andrew Garfield appreciation, have you watched Tick Tick Boom? Especially if you like musicals as well, its just stupendous.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Oh yes, I adore Tick Tick Boom! As to this one, I think the way it ends lightens the heart just a little bit. Even though it's full of horrors and pain, Desmond's story just shines a light on hope
@ItsMe-cz1pi
@ItsMe-cz1pi 8 ай бұрын
"The first medal of honor recorded." The story of John Chapman.
@orlandoaugustostock4578
@orlandoaugustostock4578 8 ай бұрын
This movie teaches important life lessons.
@spartiate567
@spartiate567 8 ай бұрын
Doss was so modest he wanted the Medal of Honor citation to "only" say he saved 50 men. In fact he saved something well over 100. They split the difference at 75.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Of course he did 🥹
@vincentpuccio3689
@vincentpuccio3689 8 ай бұрын
Definitely the kind of story that makes you look at yourself. And say what the hell have I done with my life
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I think most of us would come up short compared to Mr. Doss, but he sure makes me want to be better 💜
@honza8832
@honza8832 8 ай бұрын
Dear Madam,thanks a lot for your next,great,amazing video and reactions and informations! Really,truly heartbreaking story and so important movie (my humble personal opinion). Huge respect for your job and effort from the Central Europe. Have a nice,pleasant time.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@GrouchyOldBear7
@GrouchyOldBear7 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad! Thank you for watching!
@harbl99
@harbl99 5 ай бұрын
Who wants to tell her about Sgt Reckless? (Female Korean War soldier, never carried a gun, saved dozens of men during one of the hardest-fought battles of that war, decorated for valor. Oh, and she was a horse. Channel called The Fat Electrician did a great video on her.)
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 5 ай бұрын
Well I will need to be checking that story out for sure!
@dominicksforza3484
@dominicksforza3484 8 ай бұрын
Every time I watch this it gets me very emotional. When Doss jumps with the dead Smitty.... Then the Lt, who was beyond a scumbag to Doss, but when he finally comes down the looks he was getting from the men was like he was a miracle worker, then the Lt lovingly and gently put his hand on Dosses face asking if he was wounded, then he said lets get this soldier to a hospital tent. The fact is Doss actually saved over 100 lives and had his heroics watered down for this movie because they thought nobody would believe what he did. Mel Gibsons decision to REDUCE what Desmond Doss did, knowing this made it even more emotional the 2nd time seeing this and every time after that. The fact that there's no hollywood BS here, everything actually happened, he was an angel of God in the hellhole of war. A great man and a true hero in EVERY sense of the words, "great" and "hero" are overused words in todays insane society, but Desmond Doss was both and then some, he's a Congressional Medal of Honor recipient, that says it all... RIP Desmond.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
So well said. This is a movie that sticks with you.
@dominicksforza3484
@dominicksforza3484 8 ай бұрын
No matter how many times I see this movie it never loses its power and what an angel Desmond Doss was.
@dominicksforza3484
@dominicksforza3484 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill it a absolutely does and Desmond's heroics never cease to amaze.
@astromanjdh5908
@astromanjdh5908 8 ай бұрын
Seventy five was an estimate they decided upon, as the best guess during the chaos was about 50 to 100 men saved by Doss. The fighting in the Pacific depicted was not exaggerated, but perhaps watered down. Dan Carlin's "Supernova in the East" series goes in depth as how bad the combat got.
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 8 ай бұрын
You should also watch We Were Soldiers with Mel Gibson. Its my choice for the greatest Vietnam War movie ever made. And dont forget Black Hawk Down. Its my choice for the greatest modern war movie ever made.
@that1pretty.potprincess779
@that1pretty.potprincess779 8 ай бұрын
i think about this way too often and it kinda bothers me nobody else points it out but i love that fact that dispite what happened between desmond and hal when they were kids they were still so close more like best friends than brothers
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
So true. They likely didn’t have anyone else who they could count on.
@ericechols6056
@ericechols6056 6 ай бұрын
The real point of the story, is that Desmond was a REAL MAN of TMH GOD, his faith to works was unyielding & grounded, in taking a spiritual and moral stand against the status quo of his fellow soldiers regardless of what they did to him, which was bullying, and shaming tactics, in order to break his spirit, and look at their point of view only, but GOD used Desmond in a MIRACULOUS way to save lives on the battlefield and off, in one way or another and gain honor and respect from the other soldiers in his squad. Those who humble themselves before GOD, he will exalt, and those who are proud, GOD will bring low. We see this example in this movie. Desmond was a leader in spirit over the men he served with, regardless of his amateur experience as a soldier & even those who out ranked him. They all at that moment in time experienced the POWER OF THE ALMIGHTY, by one ordinary man. Peace!
@CoastalNomad
@CoastalNomad 8 ай бұрын
Great Reaction, Very Insightful Points..... On KZfaq you can easily find Video's of Interviews with Desmond Doss and even an episode of the 1958 airing of "This is your Life"...... I can Understand and See Doss's Point/Convictions about not touching/training with a weapon...... The number of "75 lives saved" is an Agreed upon Number..... The Army says the number is closer to 125-150, But Doss claims it was only 50 people...... Doss even provided Medical Aid to Japanese Soldiers..... There are some facts that are left out of the movie, but those facts do not detract from the story...
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I’m not sure I’ve seen a “true story” film where the truth was toned down, usually it’s embellished! Amazing
@CoastalNomad
@CoastalNomad 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill Agree, Everyone (including Mel Gibson) thought the whole story is to "Fantastic" to be believable, so it was decided to consolidate the story into a more believable story......
@user-ei7wx8el3g
@user-ei7wx8el3g 5 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed your reaction to the movie as a soldier of this great nation that I love so much lost my left leg and lock faith in humanity to come back to a country that is so confused about what Ginger they are pronounced to be called and women saying they don't a man. I feel like everything I fought for has been in vein. This is what time is not over with the army I am on my way to Israel to fight. Let's see a woman do this on combat grounds. I thought for an ungrateful appreciative country.
@lidlett9883
@lidlett9883 8 ай бұрын
Desmond's value of human life was directly from his religious values.
@tim196868
@tim196868 8 ай бұрын
When it says based upon a true story there's fiction in it when it says true story it is a correct reenactment of what really happened. And told by the mouths that were there.
@dianeritthaler7792
@dianeritthaler7792 8 ай бұрын
Amazing war hero. Very well done. Mel Gibson directed it. Glad he did before Desmond died.
@scott8658
@scott8658 8 ай бұрын
Mel Gibson has directed some great movies, Apocalypto and We Were Soldiers are also pretty good.
@fn111557
@fn111557 8 ай бұрын
"We Were Soldiers" is a GREAT Vietnam war film, HIGHLY RECOMENDED.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I’ve seen Apocalypto, I think, but We We’re Soldiers is on the list!
@slothhiker
@slothhiker 8 ай бұрын
A movie you should watch is “ Taking Chance”
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I will look into it, thank you!
@hashtagPoundsign
@hashtagPoundsign 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate your words, thank you.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Take care 💜
@silents4642
@silents4642 8 ай бұрын
1:57 war isn't necessary in my opinion but if comes its always best to be prepared.
@jacotromp59581
@jacotromp59581 8 ай бұрын
Thousands of years we wage war on each other. We have countless stories to learn from, yet we still do this to each other.
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 8 ай бұрын
Hacksaw Ridge is my choice for the greatest WW2 movie ever made. Its not fictional propaganda like Private Ryan. Its not bland or clinical like Tora Tora and The Longest Day. Hacksaw Ridge is a true story about an extraordinary person doing extraordinary things. Hacksaw Ridge is a beautiful, tense, exciting, heartbreaking and heartwarming movie about a real hero in the worst situation known to man. Its one of the greatest tales of heroism to come out of WW2. I personally cant believe Hollywood has never tried to tell the story of Desmond Doss before. It probably has to do with the fact that Hollywood is run by the antichrist. But thank God for Mel Gibson. He does an amazing job bringing Doss to life.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Hollywood doesn’t know what good stories are
@ajclements4627
@ajclements4627 8 ай бұрын
Please watch Letters from Iwo Jima, it’s from the Japanese pov during WW2.
@thejamppa
@thejamppa 8 ай бұрын
It needs also Flag of our Father's to have full effect. Both are amazing Clint Eastwood films but letters is my fave out of two.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I actually saw Letters From Iwo Jima in the theater, another well made, hard to watch film
@detsportsfan18
@detsportsfan18 8 ай бұрын
Saving Private Ryan & Schindler's List are also must WW2 watches.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I’ve seen those, talk about heartbreaking 😭
@j5429280
@j5429280 8 ай бұрын
hey hon. check out heartbreak ridge with clint eastwood its about the time american hostages were taken in granaeda
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Oooh, will do!
@j5429280
@j5429280 8 ай бұрын
great i am also a vet. i served in the air force during dessert storm@@RhetoricalThrill
@natedogg1088
@natedogg1088 6 ай бұрын
To understand why the Japanese targeted medics, you have to study Bushido. Their view of valor, death, honor and the value of 1 mans life are VERY different.
@dallassukerkin6878
@dallassukerkin6878 8 ай бұрын
Aye, it is indeed one of the most emotive war movies. Some very great acting performances to tell this story and Hugo Weaving in particular did a spectacular job portraying just how the experience of the trenches in WWI destroyed even those men that did not die. We are forgetting now just how terrible the Great War was; much worse for the men in combat than WWII and much worse for the societies that lost those men - Serbia, for example, lost about one in six of it's population; how the numbers are for the percentage of men they lost I don't know. WWII was deadlier still, in terms of the numbers, because it was fully mechanised warfare with carpet bombing of cities and other horrors. But for the fighting man in the mud, WWI was worse. If we do not remember how bad widespread war is as a method of resolving differences, we will have another big one ... and soon. My fear is that it will be a religious one and the thought of a large conflict, with the weapons we now have, fuelled by religious fervour, chills me. What is worse is that, because the instigating force is religious, the potential for peace is much less once the fighting begins. It took centuries the last time, with swords and bows, to drive Islam out of Europe. The death toll if it happens again does not bear thinking about ... ... ...
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I also can't help but wonder if we've forgotten too much. Thank you for the thoughtful comment, and please take care!
@oldgraybeard3659
@oldgraybeard3659 6 ай бұрын
Unless you are a man who has been initiated into adulthood through a "rite of passage" by a crucible of blood and sweat. you couldn't understand how Smitty & Daws are one in their willingness to unflinchingly sacrifice themselves. Even, most men today have not been through a rite of passage, and hence only barely sense this in a distant abstract way.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 6 ай бұрын
I think that’s why I like seeing these types of bonds.
@johnchrysostomon6284
@johnchrysostomon6284 3 ай бұрын
Filmed here in Sydney
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 8 ай бұрын
Most violent most religious war movie.
@larrypope5142
@larrypope5142 8 ай бұрын
I watched this is your life Desmond Doss filmed in the fifties. He was actually more heroic and crawled off the litter and told them to put someone else on it. He was then shot in the arm and crawled back to the med station with one arm and one leg by himself. Also he was on the medical ship on the ocean when he asked for his bible and the men understood how much his bible meant to him so they went back to hack saw after leaving to retrieve his bible for him. They left it out of the film because they did not think people would believe this.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
That is incredible!
@Xxiii__
@Xxiii__ 8 ай бұрын
All reaction i kept saying. "This bxtch" smh 😂😂😂
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Can't win 'em all, but thanks for helping my algorithm! 😘
@jjide76
@jjide76 7 ай бұрын
You should watch Band of Brothers it is amazing. Love your reactions.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 7 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊 That’s one I’d like to get to for sure!
@Xanderandkwonfan101
@Xanderandkwonfan101 8 ай бұрын
Can u watch the lost boys next
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I wish I could, but I've seen that one before. It's got one of my very favorite final lines 🤣
@dianeritthaler7792
@dianeritthaler7792 8 ай бұрын
Thankful Mel Gibson did this before Desmond died
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Looks like Mr. Doss passed in 2006, before this movie was made, but I hope his loved ones and those he had an impact on were able to find comfort in it
@joefoster2936
@joefoster2936 7 ай бұрын
army says he saved more than 140 he says no more than 30 they settled for 75
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 7 ай бұрын
“Legend” gets thrown around a lot, but I can’t think of a better word
@tomaskennedy
@tomaskennedy 8 ай бұрын
16:58 So, he basically answers to Jesus, the President and that’s pretty much it.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
A good connection to have!
@tomaskennedy
@tomaskennedy 8 ай бұрын
@@RhetoricalThrill 👍👍
@kmkatieee5425
@kmkatieee5425 8 ай бұрын
SUCH a good movie😭❤️ DAMN ANDREW GARFIELD IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL MAN UGH CHEFS KISS😍
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
We will manifest him one of these days, I have faith!
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 8 ай бұрын
You do realize that you are now morally and mortally obligated, to share your experience with Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers after this. The Great Adventure has only begun...you'll thank me later.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Private Ryan I've seen a few times, Band of Brothers is definitely on the radar. I kind of want to keep series reactions to my Patreon but it seems more like a really long movie so maybe it could show up here...
@tomaskennedy
@tomaskennedy 8 ай бұрын
3:01 Yeah, that makes a whole bunch of sense(!) 🙄
@mikealvarez2322
@mikealvarez2322 8 ай бұрын
Supposed to be "didn't shoot medics" NOT "did shoot..."
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I gotcha 🙂
@LukeLovesRose
@LukeLovesRose 8 ай бұрын
You should check out Europa The Last Battle to learn the truth about WW2
@ProdSangreNueva
@ProdSangreNueva 8 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
💜💜💜
@williambranch4283
@williambranch4283 8 ай бұрын
It is traditional. I was a USAF civilian for 22 years (medical admin). Family has served in Vietnam, in all the wars, all the way back to colonial wars, 400 years.
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
Amazing! Many thanks to you and your family!
@andywilliams513
@andywilliams513 8 ай бұрын
Actually, dad was right. That is the way the world works. Except for dad moving heaven and Earth, story is over. You dismiss dad too easily
@RhetoricalThrill
@RhetoricalThrill 8 ай бұрын
I think he makes logical points, but look at how things turned out. He stuck it out, and his dad came to his aid even though he disagreed with him. I think that kind of supports a positive worldview.
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