Haimer 3D probe jammed up || RotarySMP

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Haimer 3D probe jammed up || RotarySMP

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@LCalleja 2 ай бұрын

Glad to help out a bit :)

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

You sure did. Thanks a lot Luke. This should save me some time in my setup.

@LCalleja 2 ай бұрын

@@RotarySMPit was fun. Might have to get myself one of them after trying it out.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@LCalleja Good idea :)

@LCalleja 2 ай бұрын

@@RotarySMP Especially as I just broke my starret edge finder :(

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@LCalleja Bummer. What happened?

@bitp1mp 2 ай бұрын

Credit to them, but mostly to you for doing the final fix by breaking it.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

My valuable contribution :)

@SergeiPetrov 2 ай бұрын

the forecast that the probe will be broken during use was at the level of 99% confidence)))

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

At least. :(

@iteerrex8166 2 ай бұрын

I just love things that when you disassemble, 2 springs and 6 things fly out all at once 🫨😵‍💫🤦‍♂️😂

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that is why I asked Luke to do it :)

@iteerrex8166 2 ай бұрын

@@RotarySMP A knowledgeable friend is the best, otherwise it’s wise to have some diagrams before attempting.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@iteerrex8166 Luke is very good at this stuff, but he did search for videos and instructions as well.

@robertschauer376 2 ай бұрын

It always nice to get a tool back into service

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Robert. It really is. And this should be quite a time saver.

@Johannes58934 2 ай бұрын

So I noticed the question that popped up on the right of my screen... And I have to ask, who gets to say what is the right way or 'backwards'? I like what Luke said, "well I have experience breaking things"... don't we all! One of the things I like about this channel is the humility where it's okay to admit we are human and f#c! things up! And we can laugh it off! Thanks for another quality video! Tschüß

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Johannes. I am glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the kind feedback.

@EdgePrecision 2 ай бұрын

Right at the end of your video you mentioned turning a HHS blank with a diamond insert. Now I have never tried turning hard steel with diamond but I have done it many times with CBN inserts. I have always used diamond for abrasive stuff like carbon fiber of glass reinforced plastic. As well on the grinder I would use diamond for carbide and CBN for steel.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

I was wrong, it is a CBN insert. It worked well on HSS-E.

@julias-shed 2 ай бұрын

Surprisingly few parts 😮

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Hi Julia, Yeah, it is a clever design.

@RickRolling-tc7vb 2 ай бұрын

All hail St. Luke. Good on yer mate, I hope Mark got you some nice Strudel or something for fixing his gear. What a team!

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely, Luke is a champ!

@WillemvanLonden 2 ай бұрын

Great choice of music.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Hi Willem, glad you liked it.

@624Dudley 2 ай бұрын

Nice! Always liked the looks of those Haimer probes. As I recall, NYC CNC accidentally spun one up to a thousand RPM or more…it didn’t work after that 😄

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

I hope I dont repeat that error :)

@dwegmull 2 ай бұрын

@rotarySMP can you program your CNC computer to disable the spindle motor whenever tool 1 is selected?

@wtsct339 2 ай бұрын

My company sells these units. You might be shocked at how often they get spun up. 12kRPM in a robodrill modifies them quite significantly.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@dwegmull Good question. I need to look if LinuxCNC has that option standard. forum.linuxcnc.org/49-basic-configuration/40416-prevent-spindle-start-if-a-certain-tool-is-selected?start=10#303156

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@wtsct339 I bet it does. Haimer must love the repeat customers.

@RustyInventions-wz6ir 2 ай бұрын

What a nice measuring tool. Great.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

It sure is! Should speed up set up a bit.

@nikolaiownz 2 ай бұрын

So awesome to see it working again :)

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

It sure is a cool tool. Thanks Nikolai.

@jimurrata6785 2 ай бұрын

The pink ceramic probes remind me of old Magnetti Marelli sparkplugs.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Hi Jim, were they also brittle and easily destroyed :)

@jimurrata6785 2 ай бұрын

@@RotarySMP I don't think I've ever broken one, though I have worn a few to where the ground tine is almost completely gone. Still have a few for the old Ducati's

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@jimurrata6785 Nice. I have a couple of cousins who are motorbike mechanics in NZ who specialise in old Duc's. Lovely machines.

@steveggca 2 ай бұрын

I've always wondered how those things worked , actually very simple! Oh and Hi Luke

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Steve. It is. I hope it speeds up my work flow a little.

@Skyliner_369 2 ай бұрын

I gotta say, you should look into (making?) A conduction probe. Light turns on as a current path is completed through the machine. Maybe make that trigger a lil transistor or mft or a stack of such so that the machine can know when the switch is triggered. That or use what amounts to a series of IR leds and a remote receiver. The device is super simple and probably a fun lathe project.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

I started making a 3D probe to tie in with LinuxCNC, but it it ended up on the low priority project pile. Maybe I will get back to it.

@Skyliner_369 2 ай бұрын

@@RotarySMP Well, you got the tools for it. at least most of them. That being the grinder and the lathe. it's just a ball on the end of a stick with a plastic separator either mechanically held or glued on, or even screwed on, though if I remember correctly, threads are not a locating feature. It's definitely not a priority, yeah, but if you need to get something out and you're stuck twiddling your thumbs... it might be something you can do, if you're comfortable with electronics. really, yeah, the hardest thing to do is to get it talking to LCNC while rotating. Hence my idea of using 3-6 IR LEDs. could also use slip-rings but that mightn't be the most reliable. Also rotation's to couter the ball maybe not being round enough.

@HuskyMachining 2 ай бұрын

ahaha, I'm glad those haimer tips I sent you are coming in handy. Hopefully they don't still smell like a burnt down shop.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for them. Especially as they are the right sized ones. If I hadn't munched the 4mm one I would not have noticed.

@blunderchips 2 ай бұрын

great video!

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback. Glad you liked it.

@misterfixit1952 2 ай бұрын

I bought a used Haimer last year. It was my big tool envy purchase of the year. Be careful with the tips. They are about $85 US each. Once you Haimer, you can never go back.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I need to reset all the tool offsets in my tool table based off the Haaimer, but also look forward to using it.

@vandyFixer 2 ай бұрын

Luke to the rescue.....again.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Yes, he is a champ!

@billdoodson4232 2 ай бұрын

I find that the problem for me taking something like that apart; is that I end up with enough parts left over to build another one and make an FM radio!

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Hi Bill, that is also my experience, therefore the delegation to Luke :)

@Alan2E0KVRKing 2 ай бұрын

Nice job getting that working guys, should make setups faster now!

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Alan. I hope so as well.

@flikflak24 2 ай бұрын

Hope you checked the runout after you snappede the 4mm off and mounted the 5mm. Since your suppose to always check them every time you mount a new. Onee in ( when I was still in traning to become a machinest I snapped one off. Put in a new one and didn't understand why it was so much off. Then one of the old guys told me that you suppose to check it every time you mount a new ball. Cause it's never perfectly centered/just like the last one. And when I then checked it it was about 0.4mm off ) Personally I would try and make a spindle toolholder with the face match the 3d probe and is pulled up through the body itself. Witch makes it as short as possible. Free up a tool holder and also seems like a little fun project to be honest

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Yep, had to dial it back in again. Good idea on the tool holder. I have a lot of more urgent projects, but may do that.

@mrtnsnp 2 ай бұрын

A whole block on the whiteboard without items! Wonder how long that lasts.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

It didn't :)

@TheDistur 2 ай бұрын

Yay new tool. Or finally fixed tool. Whichever.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, about time :)

@platin2148 2 ай бұрын

Ahh finally got also böhlerit in the game. Quite nice tools they have sadly only buy able through schmidt's.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Not sure what heat treat that is, ,but 1.3207 can get up to HRC 67. The Schaublin did really well with it though.

@daveanderson2316 7 күн бұрын

I just broke my first tip. 70 freedom bucks for a new one. No fun. Thanks Mark

@RotarySMP 6 күн бұрын

Yeah, it goes fast doesn't it Dave.

@mazchen 2 ай бұрын

Mark, what's your thoughts on the AUA jet losing its nose ("propeller"😂 as some media called it) in the hailstorm? The airline seems to have a run, now this incident after scrapping an almost new plane by hitting some ground installations only a few weeks back...

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, the Neo was not AUA's fault. The towing was done by the airport company. I dont know enough about weather radar to know whether the crews report that the storm cell was not shown is plausible.

@mastermoarman 2 ай бұрын

so nyc cnc has a sla print you can print that uses 2mm pencil led to replace the ceramic

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip. I 'll check that out.

@notsonominal 2 ай бұрын

_and i tested it, it works fine_ .. i feel bad for laughing at that!!

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, destructive testing :)

@Rustinox 2 ай бұрын

If it's impossible to fix... just ask Luke. For him it's a walk in the park. And then Mark will screw it up again :)

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Ouch Michel... the truth hurts you know :)

@graealex 2 ай бұрын

The cleaning sequence gave me @atkelar vibes. He's a fellow Austrian KZfaqr.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Hi Alexander, I'll have to check him out.

@cho4d 2 ай бұрын

"i tested it and it worked fine" 😂

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, destructive testing :)

@joell439 2 ай бұрын

Cool 😎

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Joel.

@Tonioostendorp 2 ай бұрын

Would love to see how you use this for the Z axis.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

You will in a video soon. Basically the same as with X and Y, but you just drive it straight down into the part, until it reads Zero. Then zero Z in LinuxCNC. As long as the tool table is correctly set up, with all tools referenced off that same Zero height (I will have to go through them all and do that), then you are done.

@mikeandhismachines 2 ай бұрын

@@RotarySMP Just don't really drive it straight down too far, they don't like that at all. I've had to give myself a pause from using touch off probes on home cnc. Didn't use it enough and when I did I found a new way to be stupid with it and break it.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@mikeandhismachines Thanks for the tips Mike. It is no easy to add a change like this to the work flow without making some screw ups.

@kenthesparky178 2 ай бұрын

There sure were a lot of screws holding it together.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Hi Ken. Four to center the ball, and then another four to locate the dial correctly in the travel for the ball size. Should speed up my set up a bit now.

@jimurrata6785 2 ай бұрын

@@RotarySMPCan't forget the two loose screws in the room! (at the time) 😂

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@jimurrata6785 That is us :)

@jussikalliomaki526 2 ай бұрын

❤

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks.

@Paul-pl4vy 2 ай бұрын

Interesting but good music.

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback on that Paul. Music is the hardest bit to get right.

@XXLkielbasa 2 ай бұрын

I have a haimer that is completely burnt to a crisp. Had a shop fire by arson recently. I tried contacting haimer, apparently arson isn’t a valid reason for warranty 😅

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that. That really sucks. I bet you had a life time of tools or more in there. My Dad was doing maintenance contracting in the 90's an had his van robbed. You can never replace some tools.

@thepubliceye 2 ай бұрын

All clean and without an ultrasonic cleaner?

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

I'd only use that if completely disassembling it.

@duanedickey7043 2 ай бұрын

Does your buddy Luke fix indicators?

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

He has a lot of practice. I will point him to this comment, so he can respond.

@LCalleja 2 ай бұрын

I can both fix and destroy them :)

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

@@LCalleja Duane, if you email me (there is a link on the channel about page), I will put you in touch with Luke.

@leocurious9919 2 ай бұрын

So what was the issue now?

@RotarySMP 2 ай бұрын

It was jammed because the dial face was not level and jammed the needle. Then you have to set the range of indication to the ball diameter. As there was a 4mm ball, we had to move to the edge of adjustment. Once I broke that ball, and replaced it with a 5mm one, we could move it to the center of it's range.