Half Time Update: Rolex Submariner Comparison 14060 vs 16610

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Michael Steelmoon

Жыл бұрын

A 2 day short update on the Rolex Submariner Comparison, 14060 vs 16610
So far the 14060 leads, but this may change 🫡

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@HCvidz1 Жыл бұрын

Love the channel. No frills, just useful, practical info and advice from a guy talking to camera. 👌🏼

@favoritethings3065 Жыл бұрын

Yes, the 14060/M has the identical proportions (dial to bezel) as the classic 5513 and 1680 models whereas the 16610 has a narrower bezel frame, what you noticed as "more aggressive nurling" on the 14060. yes, it's amazing how many people overlook that. I made both of them more comfortable by swapping the thicker Sub caseback with a flatter GMT caseback (you can see that in my Rolex mods video).

@harry-eto Жыл бұрын

Question regarding bezel action of pre-ceramic Subs, are they prone to become hard to turn? A coworker has one relatively fresh from a service an the bezel needs quite a bit of force in order to turn.

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Mine are easy

@elliot7014 Жыл бұрын

I prefer hollow end links. Not sure if this is true for Subs, but on Explorers the lug holes were brought inwards when they moved to SELs. This makes straps much more difficult to use on SEL models, since the sharp edge of the case will damage thicker straps. It's crazy how much of a difference these small changes can make.

@winternimbus Жыл бұрын

So good. Been having the same issue and eventually settled on the 16610 year 2000 with lug holes. Just love it. My ceramic no date 41mm is in the safe, and always feel clunky in comparison. Love the pre ceramic 100%. My advice, keep both.

@bigbrotherwatchesdannyboy306 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Good to see people that talk about the watch itself instead of prices/investment!

@johnviano4584 Жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, I purchased a 14060M earlier this month after much research and consideration of other models. I'm happy with my decision and never really a fan of the cyclops. The 2 liner has the simple dial I like. Best of luck with your evaluation. Regards, John

@Uncle2002 Жыл бұрын

Truly entertaining. Thank you for sharing the journey. FWIW - I bought my first no date ceramic sub back in 2018 in part because of your rave review and it's still my favourite watch! 🤣

@suws315 Жыл бұрын

Such good content: informative, concise and relatable. Subscribed. Keep up the great work 🙌

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen

@elasterling2819 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Michael for your suggestions. 😊

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Anytime

@rafaelmontanez2616 Жыл бұрын

Love the channel Michael, easiest solution is to keep them both. I have the same date & no date subs and I’ve though of selling one or the other from time to time, but when it comes down to it I can’t. They each feel and wear different and I really enjoy rotating both. If you can afford to keep them both do it, I know I would regret selling either one of them and would end up buying it back later and would probably end up paying a higher price. Good luck on what you decide 👍🏽

@user-fb2uu3ky5o Жыл бұрын

When I graduated uni I was given a watch with a date function. Two months later I missed a training course and almost lost my job because of the date window. Ever since then watches have been for time, calendars have been for dates and scheduling. Love your channel, go with the 14060m and wear it until you die. Don’t let Rolex take any more of your time or money… pardon the pun.

@denniscohle3786 Жыл бұрын

I totally get your love for the pre-ceramic stuff. These watches are way more elegant. But for me it's the other way round. I always preferred the pre ceramic sub for years, but now i own a 11 series ceramic sub. It's just a tiny bit more exciting for me. I prefer the date sub over the no date, but i hate the cyclops. In the near future i will mod my sub with a crystal from a no date sub. Best of both worlds for me. Maybe i will even put AR coating on the new crystal, gives the sub a whole different vibe.

@frankv7068 Жыл бұрын

Do you still have the SD4000? Can you cover all pieces in your collection on a video ? Thanks for the content

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I do not really do SOTC plus I barely have anything these days lol

@ReturnOfWilderness Жыл бұрын

Interesting quest you're on here Michael. I love your descriptions of the 14060 it really gives us the feelings of the watch truly. Did the 2 liner never cross your mind? I think I prefer the busy-ness of the 4 but not seen in person side by side.

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. At least someone gets me hehe. I’ve firmly in the 4 line camp. 2 line to empty for me

@pureblood8307 Жыл бұрын

What about a M serial pre-ceramic Seadweller? All the later updates with no cyclops and a date. Bit thicker but comfortable

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Had it but the sd4k replaced it

@jz6873 Жыл бұрын

Both stunning pieces pro's and cons, however, I get some inconsistencies when it comes to see a diver with a date. Just my humble opinion

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

The results are in and a video will be made soon.

@majortom2450 Жыл бұрын

Glad you’re enjoying the pre ceramic big Mike.

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Cheers bud

@ccw5886 10 ай бұрын

I own both the 14060 and the 16610. I wear the two liner at weekends and the date during the week...Perfect!

@ViolinistWilliam Жыл бұрын

In real life, I find the sub date to be less formal, but that’s not a bad thing. Recently I saw a man in a black suit sporting the date model pre-ceramic, and it brought his outfit down a notch. It wasn’t formal enough, it looked cliche. The sub no date would not have this problem. The sub date is a watch you throw on for the SUV ride to the office-a good thing in its own right.

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Interesting observation

@kcmo208 Жыл бұрын

The heart wants what it wants!

@traviskoh999 6 ай бұрын

The subdate's crystal is less reflective.

@londonfloorsandingservices6966 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had both the 14060m and the 16610, and I agree the no date wears better but the watch I have now trumps them both, the 16600 sd4k, but I really agree 5 digits are Rolex’s prime era.

@tudorserban111 Жыл бұрын

I too prefer the 14060. I would also like your opinion on the new Rolex releases. Take care.

@monochromatique3645 Жыл бұрын

My advice would be to keep the 14060M and the SD4000. I think we all go though phases and return to some almost periodically. These 2 Rolexes would make the combo for life. Just keep these and be done with it.

@doctaab Жыл бұрын

You should seriously keep both of these because it is obvious you love them both!

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Agreed lol

@chaosad4508 Жыл бұрын

Tough one mate, give us yours verdict 😉

@Matt-uq3in Жыл бұрын

The cyclops wort, just the submariner for me the OG 🔥.

@MDewMonk Жыл бұрын

You've said it yourself with the possible solution - 16610 with hollow endlinks. Then it is a 'fairer' comparison to the 14060. And no, you are not going down the rabbit hole with this move, cos you've already at the end of that hole. There's no going deeper. Take the extra step so you have no regrets which way you go.

@Gorillatime Жыл бұрын

Keep them Both classics and vintage. They don’t make them like they use too

@JG-xn7or Жыл бұрын

Michael, I like the way you're thinking. As of right now which one are you leaning towards? Submariner No date or date?

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

The heart is still saying ND. But I do really like the date- that’s prob my head speaking then. In theory I was sure the sub date would replace my no date - but its all come undone.

@JG-xn7or Жыл бұрын

@Michael Steelmoon Do you really have to decide which one? can you not keep both? I remember when you sold your first hulk, you never bonded quite the same with the second. That has happened to me 3× I have promised myself never again. 1st with a Sub 2001 date 2nd with a Sub 2012 and 3rd a Gmt pepsi 1997. Once you sell the original, you never get the feeling back. I can only equate this to ppl seeking their first adrenaline rush they will forever be chasing that same feeling (high) for a lack of a better word. Good luck with your trial period, loll.

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I could keep both but I feel it would be a waste of budget to have two watches that are so similar. I’d rather add a pre ceramic gmt in place of one

@JG-xn7or Жыл бұрын

@Michael Steelmoon I see ok. Best of luck 👍

@neilc330 Жыл бұрын

@@SteelmoonWatches Hi Michael, I totally get your conundrum and a five digit GMT was what I was going to suggest. Keep the 14060 for days off when you want the purist experience. Then use a 16710 for work when you need more functionality; black bezel insert has the monochrome Sub look but the watch is different enough from your 14060 to justify owning. You can also get the Pepsi and Coke bezel inserts to really mix things up. A 40mm black dial Explorer II would be another good date option different to your 14060, and you might find it can also handle more formal situations thanks to the all steel bezel. Thanks for the content, it's nice to know I'm not the only one who agonises over such things!

@T.Q. Жыл бұрын

Asking for hollow end links is like asking Mercedes to remove power-steering from the new S-class. On that point, I’ll have to disagree with you. As for the date or no date, I’m definitely in the no-date group. The symmetry is unmatched, not to mention that it’s true to the original. It’s in it’s pure form.

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Hmmm hollow end links is maybe like having a carburetor instead of a fuel injector :)

@galaga8834 Жыл бұрын

Michael, even though I offered to buy the no date off you, seeing your are a true enthusiast I recommend you keep it. You will regret if you ever sell the 14060M and I'll refuse to sell it back to you. :)

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Just loving This 14060m. I love them both :/

@waltermaldonado7763 Жыл бұрын

Just get the SD 16600

@Scottmichael111 Жыл бұрын

I’m calling it……the 124060 is coming back! Full circle😎

@johnnyguitar6697 Жыл бұрын

Mate, you already know how this is going to play out, don't you?

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Tell me 😆

@johnnyguitar6697 Жыл бұрын

@@SteelmoonWatches I'll be amazed if you don't keep the 14060M. For the date, just look at your bloody phone.

@tony8154 Жыл бұрын

Why not just swap bracelets?? 😊

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Would feel wrong lol

@tony8154 Жыл бұрын

@@SteelmoonWatches never say never tho 😉 debating on slapping on an old sub bracelet on my Pepsi for the glidelock.

@tebieku Жыл бұрын

Go for the date if it would actually help you to know the date. It's just the more practical choice--especially if you plan to wear that watch consistently. But from a beauty, aesthetics and timelessness perspective, the 14060 wins. Also consider they'll never make a 14060 again and as the years pass, they may be harder and harder to find in good condition or at a good price.

@Laguna2013 Жыл бұрын

it just hit me who the gentleman reminds me of....Sacha Baron Cohen. anyone?

@cyrillec4999 Жыл бұрын

You really need to keep both watches... If you sell either, you will miss it, I fear... And what about the Bluesy? I am getting warm for one... but I wonder if I would get tired of it after a few months... Any thoughts?

@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын

Ref the Bluesy - I was ready for gold really was, but not sure it in line with my character.