for the owner family thats still true to the letter

in the late 2000s? so like, 2990s?

​@@estenderyt No, the 2000s always refers to a decade because reasons.

​​@@jbird4478because calling it the '00s looks stupid and also could mean 1900-1909

@@jbird4478 k

At this point, I can't believe ANYONE knows how to pronounce Porsche

I know the correct way is Porsh-uh, but I just don't care and keep saying it 'Porsh'

And I bet you don’t pronounce Volkswagen correctly either.

PorshuhébuttheEisentirelysilent

​@@AlphaGeekgirl'folks vagen'

Volkswagen is not the "most" valuable company, it is the "more" valuable company :) good story though

fuck all shorts

@@sean9163 didn't know that volkswagen was a country instead of a company

​​@@sean9163no... you're just confidently incorrect. Volkswagen was literally the most valuable company in the world for a short period of time, you'd know that if you paid attention to the video instead of correcting people in the comments.

@@sean9163 If there were only two companies in the world, you would be correct. Last time I checked, though, there are at least three companies being publicly traded...

It really was painful. I have never seen an E treated so badly as the one in Porsche.

I was already defenestrating my PC after listening to the video once.

I love poursh and wolkswagn 🥰🇩🇪

Porshy

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I believe he did. I was even willing to let the pronunciation slide until he besmirched the cute lil' Beetle. - Me, also deeply offended about it

Yes, that one hurt :(

It hurts because it's true.

​@megamaser that's why you're adopted

Fühl ich.

BTW, was not Piech family also patented Nazis just as Porsche himself? Funny how fake the Western German denazification was, despite the country brainwashing its children with an opposite claim in the schools. In reality, things were so bad that Nazis got to helm NATO and found the German secrete police, responsible for cleansing the country from communists (just as Nazis did in the 1930s).

He likes Porsches.

Would you please elaborate a bit more on that? Sounds really interesting.

@@centenarigamer As explained by the video: Porsche owns the Porsche holding company which controls Porsche the car manufacturer. Now, Porsche wants to buy up Volkswagen, but he doesn't have cash to do so, so he sold Porsche car manufacturer to Volkswagen for cash. Then he use the cash to buy up a controlling stake in Volkswagen so Porsche now owns Volkswagen which owns Porsche manufacturing. This is effectively a Merger & Acquisition between both companies and corporate restructuring. The result would have been the same had Volkswagen sold itself cheaply to Porsche, and Porsche give the Volkswagen's management control of Porsche cars.

@@centenarigamer Basically what bachpham said. I'm a little fuzzy on the details as well, but they basically followed the strategy described in the video. There's several other scandals surrounding VW well, so many in fact he dedicated an entire lecture just to those. Was one of the funniest things I've witnessed thus far. There's corruption like the Lopez-affaire where a man by the same name first almost bankrupted Opel and General Motors with the way he managed acquisition of resources before swapping over to VW. Another scandal worth mentioning was the scandal surrounding the workers union representative of VW, "Klaus" and the Chief HR Manager "Peter". Now in return for just letting all of the union representation fall under the table "Klaus" wife in Brazil was given supposed contracts and payments that were never actually being delivered. When all of this came to light they couldn't actually put "Peter" in jail. His full name is "Peter Hartz" and he's actually the person that's responsible for Hartz-4 in Germany, a kind of social support food stamp program. They feared if he went to jail a lot of poor people would just stab him to death for that. VW has tons of these so it's really fun to dig into that if you have time.

Officially called Volkswagen Group (“Volkswagen AG”)

Imagine working for them all 😭😭😭

The VAG -ina

@@RayaRSS Do they all cut you a separate pay cheque 🤔

@@sailorstu no, each company employs its own people

Exactly Porsh-Aye

The sheer stupidity of pointing out it was a bait and still being such a know-it-all that you fell for it, KNOWING so many people already corrected him.

@@Frdnnd the german pronunciation is closer to "por-shuh"

@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme or, perhaps, I was trying to be funny. I guess German humour doesn't work well over text.

The Problem is that native english speakers just refuse to pronounce Es at the end of words...

Yes absolutely. It’s the only thing I have ever paid for that still isn’t mine ( and I don’t mean a credit agreement). The only worthwhile accessory for a 911 would be a forcefield.

YOU CAR'S ENGINE IS ON THE WRONG SIDE

It owns your wallet, that's for sure.

I felt this.

@@BMW_Z4idiot Weight balance makes the 911 one of the best production cars in history, and by far the most succesfull race car

actually started laughing out loud

Hitler and Jews

I think it was the perfect delivery that made it so funny xD

fr caught me so off guard

I lost it when Hitler got distracted by Jews existing and no one got the car. 😅

Screw your minister of Transport and other politicians

I saw this on nebula a day ago. I thought the video mentioned that? That they abolished the rule.

Another fun fact: part of the punishment in Dieselgate was payment of a billion Euros to the state of Lower Saxony, i.e., a shareholder.

The LS-state was really clever. In Italy the government basically gave over and over and over again a lot of money to FIAT which was an employer with ~1 million workers (during the golden ages of the production) without gaining any control on the decisions of the company (which fired many times many people immediately after getting the help from the state... or kept the workers in 'kurz-arbeit' equivalent status for months at a time). In the years 2000 FIAT had barely 20k workers and lost most of the Italian market.

Why is it difficult to switch between the group and the brand? :)

no.... that happened in literally 2 different millenia.... porsche was able to get such a huge loan because once they had purchased 15% of VW stock they were big enough to be considered systematic and at that point you can get pretty much infinite amounts of loans from the german development bank at cost...

I'm pretty sure the beetle is still the best selling car in history.

​@@tremondialprofit from selling 911s

@@c.j.3404 by now it's actually the Toyota Corolla. The Beetle stopped production long ago, while the world kept growing. Today its not even in top 5 - but the VW Golf & VW Passaat are.

@@tremondial The Beetle is still the best selling car in history, when you define it by the terms of being one basic design with relatively minor changes during the model run. Cars like the Corolla or Golf don't count in the same way as there are different designs of each every few years, with very little carried over between succeeding generation.

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Agreed, I think its a rather charming compact car.

The Beetle was notoriously made fun of on Top Gear as well. I always thought they were very neat cars though, and a great way to get into classic car ownership actually

In Latin America calling the beetle ugly is an easy way to get thrown in jail.

Idk, it's a bit like an ugly duckling. It's cute and endearing, while also being ugly, and that's alright.

@@ElusiveTy while I know its all subjective, very few people would actually call the beetle an ugly car and honestly if you compare it with most american cars back in the day, it's better looking than most of them and I say that as a car enthusiast

So much this. When you *really* look at it, it wasn't really about the manufacturing (especially later), but rather the fight between Piech and the Porsche family for ownership of Porsche. It just so happened that the excuses cooked up on the spot to placate the usual business folks managed to just barely pass muster.

@@ZeDestructor00 I would really like to listen to one who has insights to it. I still remember some articles about. It was the biggest and loudest industry competition in Germany for at least this decade. I would say a couple of decades. But my knowledge is finite too.

Also at the same time one of the most important things in the world

It's literally the opposite of meaning that. What isn't immediately obvious is that creative financial instrumentation like this is one way we excite economic growth, because you're kind of artificially inflating money supply through the creation of debt - which the government wants a certain level of. A certain level of serviceable debt is healthy for the economy. It's a problem when debt becomes unserviceable (aka people can't afford the interest)

@@drizmans Aka the US government in a few years...

It doesnt even serve as a logical explainations as to why "money is basically fake". Yet alone as a good one.

Money, just like every other part of society, is literally just a big game of pretend that all of us humans have deluded ourselves into believing are real and important.

Stellantis = FCA (Fiat, Chrysler, Dodge, RAM, Jeep...) + PSA (Peugeot, Citroen, Opel)

I was about to make the same remark.

There even is a video of Porsche on how to pronounce Porsche.

I hope it’s in the owners manual too.

In America they call porsche porsh

@@goatgamer001 yes but it does not change the fact that it‘s wrong

Fr bro imma start ww3 for that right there

He's right though

Ikr? Completely blind 😦

People mispronounce foreign words all the time. What makes "Porsche" special?

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou If you're going to make an informative video, wouldn't it make sense to pronounce their name properly?

@@yessir4859 "Porsche" is so frequently pronounced without the final schwa in American English (and maybe other dialects) that it's practically the standard pronunciation at this point. You wouldn't expect an educational English-language video about Paris to pronounce "Paris" the French way.

Its a brand name, they require their name to be pronounced (?) and used in the proper context depending on their trademark to avoid things like genericisation (might have spelt that wrong)

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou He just said.... they have a video telling you how to say it.

Nazi

Just a pity about the war mongering and genocide.

There's good in bad people & bad in good people. But it is unwise to ignore their actions.

@@patricknevermind8529 whoa dude I was kidding.

Something about his eyes... hypnotic

"Goes together like peanut butter and Hitler." was a winner. I had to pause the video to guffaw for a bit.

Is it also funny when you mispronounce foreign words?

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou If I make a video where the main topic IS that foreign word, I'd very much make sure to pronounce it correctly. It's even worse here, since he pronounces BOTH central things wrong. As much as I love Sam's stuff, this to me just seems lazy.

@@fonkbadonk5370 The word is pronounced without the final schwa so frequently that I would consider it an acceptable pronunciation within the context of American English. This seems tantamount to me to complaining that a video about Paris doesn't pronounce 'Paris' as "paʁi" (with a French 'r' and without the final 's').

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou Paris has a proper name in English, just as for example Cologne or Munich, which differ from the contry-specific name. Porsche does not. So much not, that as I've read somewhere else here, they even have a video made by themselves, that explains the proper pronounciation. Apples to pears imho.

Same!!!

Hey wait a minute, are you talking about me???? - Eddie Lampert, legendary best CEO ever

Porch

@@plumjet09 definitly not Porsche tho 😂

Even funnier was Porsche going "no we aren't planning to buy VW controlling stake", see we have no more active buys. While at the same time buying bunch of later maturing binding buy contracts of various weird arrangements. Which is technically different and they didn't need to disclose, because stock market rules. Utterly devious and questionable morals regarding honesty and good faith acting on stock market? Oh absolutely. Still technically legal? Well yes also, since Porsche SE had their legal department working overtime everything was technically legal. Then just one day they went. Oh right, we have this many shares and ... ... enough later maturing contracts (soon to mature all on one go) for already set buys to be in controlling sake. Oops did we mislead you about that controlling stake thing. Well rules say we didn't technically lie. So it's legal. That is also the moment the squeeze happened. Since it seemed there was float on the market, but then when Porsche SE revealed their hand and how much pending buys they had in place, everyone realised "crappie, that means there isn't enough float to cover all these shorts". Porsche SE did all this maneuvering, since as said they really didn't have the funds to buy VW and even more certainly wouldn't have it upon everyone knowing they were planning for controlling stake. Everyone would just wait for price to go up and Porsche come knocking. Say they lied and hid their acquisition in complex technically legal arrangements.

Sam owns and created nebula, while nebula owns and created some of his original series

it's a big issue with many americans and brits, in spite of Top Gear still a lot of people pronounce Porsche as if the e doesn't exist

ikr its pronouced like PORSHA thats kinda how u pronounce it

I'm not German and I know this is not how either of these brands are pronounced. Like you say, Porsche is supposed to be said like "porsh-uh", and Volkswagen is supposed to be said "Folks-vagen"

As a speaker of (American) English, I have to - and I am not too sorry about that - be the wise guy to point out that YOUR language is incomprehensible most of the time. Here in English, when we make/find a new thing, we make a new word for it. In German, when you make/find a new thing, you smash lots of your existing words together in a tongue twister.

@@Iambestforreal I pronounce it "Uppity VW"

Don't you pay taxes from rent to goverment?

@@erkinyldrm6579 Houses are a depreciating asset, according to the IRS. So in theory yes, but every penny I spend on maintenance and principle payments is a write off...and that cost more than rent. One of the biggest reasons for renting from myself is red tape and insurance. Now if I injure myself I could also sue myself so my insurance pays for damages! LOL! 'Merica! But yes I do pay an absurd amount of property taxes! :) (When I say "myself" my personal name and my LLC are two different entities...sorta)

@@ryanroberts1104 Gotta love loop holes like you said. Thanks for having the time for a detailed answer. So cool!

While the financial process is not complicated, the story of Porsche and wv is so historic this is just one of the more interesting chapters, they are literally unable to not coexist in some way

@@gave2hazeYeah good thing we got a 5 minute video for it where over a minute of it is an ad and the rest is mostly just snarky comments, really does the topic proper service!

@@Icetea-2000 Thats every video on this channel.

@@SQERDOMOONLIGHT Yes

I just refer to this corporate structure as "the Porsche centipede."

​@@stefthepefThe rolling emblem.. The E(at) in the emblem, the emblem of winning... What else 😂

Ahahah i remember trying to get any engineering supplies from VW, working at their semi-subsidiary. It was impossible.

This video made me violently ill and physically hurt to watch.

@@alexanderhanhardt9752 That's how almost all English native speakers say Porsche for better or worse.

@@soundscape26Yeah I know it’s a saying but just for worse

@@Icetea-2000 It is what it is. No one outside of France can say "Renault" anything like they do in France. Brand names always get butchered by foreign speakers, it's just part of it.

@@calum5975 Absolutely false, that’s just a cope by english speakers to justify their bad pronunciation of foreign words because they only know one language. Pronouncing "Renault" correctly is easily possible for anyone who has cared to put any amount of effort into learning french pronunciation. Native english speakers just don’t care and it’s ridiculous to act like the whole world is like them

the power struggle of Porsche vs Piech is enough for seasons of Televisions, soooo yes this is crazily dumbed down

Also the 356 wasn't shoddily built in the VW factory with VW, but rather in its own designeated Porsche factory in Stuttgart and not Germany but the state of Niedersachsen keeps 20% of VW and and and... way too many errors and not enough information

No

It basic German pronunciation. Anybody who knows the language can tell you that’s how it’s pronounced.

Americans just think it’s french for some reason and/or they don’t use their brain

There even is a video of Porsche on how to pronounce Porsche.

@@andyjwagner or even the jokes about Germans make sense here. They are seen as efficient people in general, why would they put a letter there if they wouldn't pronounce it?

@@istvanlorinczi2817 Genau so!

Couldn't bear it after 20 seconds

This is not even the tip of the iceberg, too. Porsche was an extremely toxic family company with LOTS of infighting in the later years. There are very good documentaries on it, but the ones i know are all german. Still, very interesting rabbit hole.

Thank you! Couldn't agree more!

He said in many previous videos that he does it on purpose so people angrily corrects him in the comments, which rises the engagement.

How

Good question

@@tunnis9690 Nebula

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