Trying to solve the ignition problem on my 1927 Model T Hotrod

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Ай бұрын

In the video Karl and I work on my 27 Ford model T and remove the pertronix ignition and install points as I though the ignition was the problem fir the car running bad.
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@williamtrusler1508 Ай бұрын

It’s always a great time when Karl comes to visit! What a good pal.

@dougpeak7591 Ай бұрын

Brent it’s great to Karl at your shop !That model t is cool ! I think it needs a haircut. Maybe you and Karl can give it alittle chop

@TheDistur Ай бұрын

Honestly it's nice to see one that isn't chopped.

@HalfassKustoms Ай бұрын

Haha to easy

@WilliamPhillips65-69 Ай бұрын

You two could have a comedy show. I love the back and forth of you two in the shop. Reminds me of a time years ago when I worked with a crew of machinists in an automotive machine shop, that built engines from farm trucks to funny cars, dirt track rigs. street rods, and tractors. Thanks for the memories.

@lewiskemp5893 Ай бұрын

Best thing about Karl is I found Brent through him. I love both channels and the best is both of them together 😊

@alanpaulick7815 Ай бұрын

What happy video with Brent Ester and Karl. Thanks for sharing good friends hanging out.

@harrytaylor6854 Ай бұрын

Very good one that is another reason why i stuck with the small bock chev ..Well done guys great to have Karl down here

@Mr2oldiron Ай бұрын

Dwell is the number of degrees the point are CLOSED. Uniset points are usually preset, you install them and then start the engine. To use a dwell meter you you hook it the distributor side of the coil (usually the negative side) and ground. Your dwell reading is usually on a small block Chevy is 28-32 degrees. I always tried to get it at 30 running. That’s why the distributor cap has the door in it is so you can adjust the points running. You should your multimeters because some of them have a dwell meter function built in to them. Always set your dwell first because for every degree of dwell change, you change timing 2 degrees.

@rogercamp6071 Ай бұрын

A pair of old school hot rods-love it!!

@lsdevenie1426 Ай бұрын

Better than anything on TV, Awesome watching you two “work” together

@murtkirby9725 Ай бұрын

Glad to see Buddy making a cameo appearance. Great video.

@dinga11128 Ай бұрын

You connect the dwell meter + ti the - side of the coil and the other to ground and set the points to 30 on the meter with the motor running and you're done.

@canadareals Ай бұрын

I loved the little door on the GM distributer caps. Hook up your dwell meter, start'r up, raise the little door, insert your allen wrench, set your dwell to the perfect reading. Done in a coupl'a minutes.

@briankinnear7461 Ай бұрын

Love these videos with you and Karl doing stuff together. Informative and a helluva lot of fun. Look forward to more. Be safe and stay well.

@N-Scale Ай бұрын

Those look cool cruising together !!!

@1208bug Ай бұрын

This was a lot of fun Brent and Karl! 😎👍

@jasonseal2692 Ай бұрын

I always set points with a dwell meter. As the center “cam” wears out your end gap setting will change. Get the dwell setting to 30 and run it. Love the channel, both of the channels.

@ArthurParker-xr6qu Ай бұрын

Brent.. I love to see you and karl get together….awesome content today..keep up the great work 😊😊

@born2soon Ай бұрын

The local hardware store in our town had a huge sign like that. When they went out of business someone bought the sign for $10,000 and sold it on Mecum Auction for $37,400.00!

@davidhatch2558 Ай бұрын

Nice to see your 27 running properly again Brent. Thanks for the video

@donaldhalls2189 Ай бұрын

It looked like a great day hanging with a mate, and cruising, in beautiful weather, thanks for sharing, all the best to yous and your loved ones

@stew6338 Ай бұрын

Setting the dwell is the most accurate way to set points. The smaller the points gap the bigger the dwell is. I know your viewers are now going to send you dwell meters. 😆Cheers Stew

@donames6941 Ай бұрын

One thing i see is a ballast resistor, and if that coil is a 12 vote one,(with a intrunel risistor ) you may not need the ballast witch lower you votes more cause a weak fire at the plugs causing a rich mix

@dennisplace2641 Ай бұрын

No ballast resitor on petronix........

@glennnickerson8438 Ай бұрын

I have to run a ballast resistor with my Pertronix. Someone said I didn't need it, disconnected it and ten minutes later poof Put a new one in with the resistor 18 yrs ago, never a problem!😉

@craigwalker4211 Ай бұрын

Electric tonic ignition needs 12v while points is 9v with a ballast resistor.

@robertbennett9243 Ай бұрын

You and Karl are such best friends. You two can find funny in anything. Good video. Pablo was looking at the 27 like "who is driving my 27?". I learned about points and setting a dist. right.

@moto50forReal Ай бұрын

I Just loved watching those two cars rolling down the road at the end there

@TrendsbySterling Ай бұрын

Very cool to see you two guys hanging out and having fun working on stuff Brent!

@Slingshotgixxer Ай бұрын

That Roadster is unbelievably cool , just looks amazing

@johnpassmore8176 Ай бұрын

Great video with you and carl. Trust this 66 yr old. You teach and explain things well. Been a mech. Body man and hotrodder all my life and dont claim to know anything but willing to help out. Sorry late on the comments but never miss a video.

@craigbowley6783 Ай бұрын

Pablo is just living his best life 😁

@farmerbaker Ай бұрын

Pertronics like a full 12 volts all the time, found out the hard way so no need for the ballast resister

@grahamparr3933 Ай бұрын

In my early years motoring, you could get home with a screwdriver, pair of pliers, a small hammer, a lug wrench, and a roll of electric tape.

@alexanderalejo5708 Ай бұрын

Yeahhhhh! MAKE IT HALFASS collab.

@buckeyejim2989 Ай бұрын

🗿💨them uni-pounts was bad right outta the box ,at times. Only 1974 GM used em but it was easier for the diy er to loosen two bolts instead of three. Or if someone lost a point mounting bolt , guys would use the uni-points because it required two without a condenser mount screw. Enjoying the collaboration 👍 thanks for sharing ✌️

@floydt2029 Ай бұрын

Yes Karl, when your closer to the neon sign, I can here it click. Look like a good time with Brent and Karl!

@stuartfletcher2378 Ай бұрын

Thank you both for a superb video , between the two of you anything and everything is possible . I could never get enough of your prize winning knowledge and sparky humor . Till we get together next time , May the best of life be yours , Stuart in Ontario ..

@IEchuckie Ай бұрын

Sparky humor? Is that 16 or 32 gap humor 😅

@terryeustice5399 Ай бұрын

A fun video Brent and Karl. Good people good times. Thanks for sharing! 💯👊👍💕

@SPUDHOME Ай бұрын

60 years ago dad taught me, {match book}. Don’t use a feeler gage. The oil on the gauge would get on the points and burn them out faster. Also don’t use a point file, same reason, use new clean emery cloth. Match book always worked.

@SPUDHOME Ай бұрын

I love the learning, especially about a problem you will never see again. Ben there done that. LOL

@roberthocking9138 Ай бұрын

What a sight those 2 rods made in that beautiful countryside. Nice job

@stevesalvage1089 Ай бұрын

Iv gone back to points on all my classics, spare condenser is all you need to take with you , points will always get you home, simple ,

@jameslewry2950 Ай бұрын

G'day big fella, sitting in hospital, you're keeping me motivated, thanks mate. Hooroo se ya later 👍

@tday99music Ай бұрын

Please rename this video how to make an old car old again, lol. Great stuff as always!

@mixerman1 Ай бұрын

You and Karl are like ☯ you compliment each so well. You know the funny thing is you guys probably hooked up because of the old tube here. It was nice to see Esther pop in. I feel like Buddy is like me in his older age, he looked a lot more chipper without the cold of winter. It always seems like Pablo is smiling when you go for a boot. I want to thank you all for the great content and I'll catch you on the next one..later!!

@RandyH-qf3dc Ай бұрын

Used to have a dwell meter. Those gm widow cap, one piece points and condeser coupled with a dwell meter made a tune up easy. Enjoyed this video Brent.

@ronbunker5778 Ай бұрын

You two make it real! Thanks for sharing your video.

@IEchuckie Ай бұрын

I like this video. It's making me feel better about how I work on my toys. I'm not the only one 😅

@whatsoutthere6822 Ай бұрын

Dwell changes timing so, it's best to set the dwell first then set timing.

@lynnmccurdythehdmmrc2561 Ай бұрын

Been a long time since I turned wrenches but do remember the "window" in the Dist Cap and adjusting the points with an allen wrench.

@keonikaig9247 Ай бұрын

That waz lots of fun...so nice to have your own parts YARD... GRRAT to c you and Karl out for a spin...keep well 👍🤠 Pablo looked great ride'n along... 🐶

@Mr.Avuncular Ай бұрын

Brent. You are correct !! The door yes dwell access!!! Also get a handheld vaccumn gun couple sqeezes while hooked up to module would confirm that itz working😘😁👍👍🤠

@BL-eu8fo Ай бұрын

This video was so much fun, thank you guys. you made me laugh the all way! It's great to see you just having good times!

@asacatholic1380 Ай бұрын

Troubleshooting! A lot of it is physical learning. Thanks for demonstrating the process!

@hooligan_56labelle22 Ай бұрын

Ahhh. Those daring young men in their jaunty jelopy.

@jerrybickes7957 Ай бұрын

Yes we can hear the click of the sign. Have a great week guys.

@CSmith-oz4wp Ай бұрын

Bring the Buick into the shop, it’s time for “flame on” and go for a burn. Great video I learned something every time I watch.

@JustinPaul1st 28 күн бұрын

When you two guys get together fun happens ...I love how Buddy gravitates towards Karl the whole time...Buddy is generally the shy dog compared to Pablo...

@oh8wingman Ай бұрын

For points gap you can use a Canadian dime if need be. When newly minted they are 0.020" thick. Years ago when points were still the standard ignition I had a dome with a hole drilled in it and I kept it on my key chain. A dime will also work on old Harleys as they ran GM point assemblies.

@mikemullay5622 Ай бұрын

Points and condenser and rotor are all I have ever used in my vintage cars, most recently Buicks. I agree, keep it simple.

@jackmehoff2961 Ай бұрын

Minty ! Thank You for sharing your video, and letting us hang out . Later ...

@catman19 Ай бұрын

Hi Brent,,first set points at 30-32 dwell then set timing.

@SStudiopro Ай бұрын

Use a dwell meter and the dwell is 28 to 32

@danielboughton3624 Ай бұрын

Haven't done one in a long long time but I was thinking .16 for the gap and 30 for the dwell. I guess I remembered about right. Now they just need the little tool to reach around everything when the distributor is in place. I think I have one in my toolbox.

@larrybailey43 Ай бұрын

Enjoying your shows !

@notajp Ай бұрын

Usually, if a Pertronix unit fails, you lose spark entirely. And yes, if you are going to run points, you need a dwell meter. Hook up the dwell meter, then use the Allen wrench to adjust the point gap to set the dwell to spec. We used to do that all the time….

@markmclellon8516 Ай бұрын

A Buddy video, Brent n Karl, T n roadster, Pablo n Brent.

@tstuart7333 Ай бұрын

1927 Jidder Bug. Which is looking real super.

@obsessive_doka_disorder Ай бұрын

You two goof so well together 👍🏻🙃

@johnkranz4004 Ай бұрын

Very KOOL Video Brent and Karl

@portsboy1 Ай бұрын

I'm gonna say that old school ballast resistor is kaput

@marksteinhorst5855 Ай бұрын

Not supposed to use ballast resistor with pertronix

@AndrewGeorge-ig1fn Ай бұрын

I would like to see all your cars out lined up. I really like the t and the roadster. I like how there just together and drive. Not some finished full paint cars

@jman6030 Ай бұрын

Love it when you guys get together..good times eh lol 👌

@rickyfulks6656 Ай бұрын

The dwell setting is 30 degrees,I'll never forget old school stuff.

@born2soon Ай бұрын

I remember setting the dwell on my first car, 1966 Chevy Bel Air 283, at 30 degrees and idle at 650. Sweet engine that didn't burn a drop of oil. Summer of '72.

@IBRACIN Ай бұрын

The vacuum advance should be hooked to ported vacuum

@Bman2020 Ай бұрын

What a great watch guys it has been real good watching your last videos the old points and condenser was my thing lol easy file reset gap life was good again simple thanks for sharing your time together 👍👋🇨🇦

@jimmyford796 Ай бұрын

I’ve had 2 61 chevys with 283 in them and both had the little door on the distributor cap for adjusting the points.

@kirkoglesby6175 Ай бұрын

Mallory unilight is what I ran in my 302 and that thing ran awesome.

@kenanger6877 Ай бұрын

Happy 4 th you guys! Enjoy watching you work on the old stuff!

@albertdehn8381 27 күн бұрын

So much fun when you get together thanks for sharing 😀👍

@SuperDave-xs6pt Ай бұрын

One of your buddies has a dwell meter. Get it, set the point dwell to 30 degrees, then set timing. Good luck

@crbrepairmotorcycles6608 Ай бұрын

I remember sears/craftsman made a points and dwell meter gauge to help set them

@bass60guy Ай бұрын

In the states, we called that floating axle application, a suicide front end.

@danielboughton3624 Ай бұрын

the plate can get sticky with old grease or other cruft. You might need to clean/grease it. You can use a mighty-vac or other vacuum pump to see if the advance is any good. The dwell meter hook up depends on the meter. If you have an automotive style multi-meter it might have a dwell function but if you get the point gap right the dwell is right. They are 2 different ways of doing the same thing.

@johnchambers12 24 күн бұрын

I still have a dwell gage on my craftsman digital volt meter i used it in the 60’s and 70’s but i still keep it , just in case i ever need it. Great video guys!

@larrylilly2552 Ай бұрын

Boy your making me feel old now, I have a dwell meter and always used it on GM point systems years ago.

@danielkoch6815 Ай бұрын

Back in the day, I always set any set of points at .017", then check it with a dwell meter and I ALWAYS had 32 degrees of dwell! .017" is the ticket!

@demnis 20 күн бұрын

yo HI again Halfass customs Brent and Ester from the D MI 😎 hey thanks for sharing another great video of the mighty T tweens 👍🤩💪😎🔥

@thomasputnam4491 Ай бұрын

When you put the Allen wrench in the window and hit the points they will change just from the wrench that's why you need a dwell meter I'd give you one I have 2 of them .just readjust the points with the wrench and keep reveing it until it's good like setting the timeing without a light

@fabbricaitalianaautomobili5859 Ай бұрын

Hey uncle, I've really done the same with reverting back to poins from the upgraded electronic ignition, We have a mr carman locally, which I was the first one to scrap their so called upgrade. Now anywho Ciao Ciao The Des

@daleking8529 Ай бұрын

What a fun video! Take care!

@edwinthompson6510 Ай бұрын

you have the patience of Jobe Brent Ed

@EvanHofmeyer Ай бұрын

Jup. Nothing beats oldschool hey. It just works. Always has. Always will.

@rickyfulks6656 Ай бұрын

Dwell meters gotta b really rare in the tool box now

@mikerios5184 Ай бұрын

WHAT A GREAT TEAN 👍

@jonpeters2700 Ай бұрын

In order to set your points by dwell, you need to connect a dwell meter to the engine, start it and adjust the dwell with an Allen wrench or a screwdriver that has an Allen wrench end on it. They used to make a special screwdriver that had a spring made into the shaft that came with the Allen wrench end made just for that purpose. You will watch your meter and as you turn the screw to adjust the points the needle will move showing that the dwell is changing. Sometimes you could adjust the points by gap, but the dwell will not be right, it is always better to adjust them by dwell.

@EReznok 8 күн бұрын

What a great little T, I love that car.

@randyhughes5160 Ай бұрын

My 69 Chevy truck had that and I had a box that had timing and dwell you could open the door and set the dwell then you sprayed it with silicone to help water proof it