Lucas Warns Nathan About Declaring His Love - When Calls the Heart

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Lucas warns Nathan about pressuring Elizabeth with his proclamations of love. Shortly after Elizabeth pulls Nathan aside to assure him she does not blame him for Jack’s death.

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@priscillarobertson6574
@priscillarobertson6574 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! I couldn't be more happier when i saw Nathan took her hands!! Go Nathan!! Go get her
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...Nathan is confident that her heart will finally open to him because the truth is that she's already given him her heart...she simply needs to let go of the fear. Nathan, by taking her hands, with that small gesture, signaled to her, that she can trust him with her heart, that he will care for her as a precious jewel. It was such a beautiful moment between them.
@jennyalcala5356
@jennyalcala5356 3 жыл бұрын
Yep Team Narhan
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariapopovici4467 I saw an ad for the upcoming episode, and she is still kind of cool to him. He is on horseback, she is crossing the street and he thanked her again for telling him he is not responsible for Jack's death. Lucas was watching from the balcony, of course.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicepahler7610 Hahahaha! "Lucas was watching from the balcony, of course..." He seems to be permanently planted there, conveniently looking down (in more than one way) whenever Elizabeth and Nathan are in sight. Gee writers...could you all be any less subtle? Apparently yes. Ah Elizabeth...that girl needs a good shaking up and down, enough to startle her out of her oblivion to what she's doing to Nathan. "Woman...why, why do you refuse to see the personification of all that is tall, dark and blue eyed handsome" in front of your eyes? Ah, woman! You try my life and I only watch you onscreen...
@ElizeteBartlett
@ElizeteBartlett 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...I am so glad that she finally choose Lucas😁👏👏👏👏
@gloriajohnson3569
@gloriajohnson3569 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan is so humble & kind.He could of reacted so differently to Lucas's comment about pressuring Elizabeth but he just walked away like the perfect gentleman he is.It was a positive moment for sure when she tells him she does not blame him for Jack's death.It encourages him to reach out for her hand.Yeah Nathan.
@72zazu
@72zazu 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez...Nathan as humble and kind? How did he sit in the church during the wedding? He became this arrogant guy taking the hands of someone else's partner. L is the gentleman here, but I hope he'll get tired of this game.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
So much unspoken emotion between Elizabeth and Nathan and yet so much that requires no words because love is simply understood when it is right. And it is time...it is time for Elizabeth to courageously admit to herself and to Nathan that he is the one who has her heart. We know that her heart is already Nathan's...she must only step out in faith now.
@eugenecrenshaw808
@eugenecrenshaw808 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Maria , there is a mystical thing that takes place when the heart receives true love , it's invisible and it's not tangible , but it knows beyond a doubt that it feels wonderful and no matter how we put on a false face , and try to deny , that lies behind the " mirrors the windows , the eyes, and often times when we are least expecting it to be , love will manifest itself from within towards the outward , a beautiful surprise ! Elizabeth is a beautiful human being , who cares much for her fellow Hope Valley community, her students and she loved deeply which can shatter her spirit , and after enduring the loss of her beloved Jack , her emotions are too mixed up for her to handle well at the moment ! Her bizarre change in her character this season is a result of this loving too deep., speaking very harsh and nasty to Rosemary and Nathan is contrary to her true self , and speaking to Ned slowly helped her to see things a bit better , and the advice she gave Ned's daughter , is really coming from her heart , and Ned ' s daughter touched deep into her rational.soul.and said " Elizabeth you if anyone should understand because you experienced a great loss ! That reached her deeply and she admitted " yes I have " ! Erin said earlier on in a podcast , " to put on your south slueth caps and try to catch the clues and the subtle hints , and just because your favorite character it appears as he has the better hand at the moment , don't take it as such because it will be a roller coaster ride , and not until the final episode will the " one sided triangle will be resolved " ! Far too many times they show the saloon owner " intently looking upon her and Nathan conversing and it's kind of immature and strange ! ( jealousy ) The saloon owner has evolved from.just an opportunist businessman , he said that he is a gambler and he can read a person easily, and he is the type that is used to getting his way , and each time he sees her with Nathan , it disturbs him.! He has 100% gotten all of the quality time with her but still Nathan is the third cog to the puzzle ! This shows that surface things, flattery , and tangible things are fleeting , momentary , and like adolescents , it will end in heart break and heart ache ! It looks as if he will remain a gentleman and have a heart filled talk with her and realize that having fun.wirh each other and wining and dining , wooing , is not the same as what' s in the heart ! She was falling for Nathan way before the out of town trip., and She was anxiously waiting for Nathan to be more aggressive in pursuing her , unbeknownst of the secret that held him.back but, ....now that the cats out of the bag , he is taking off the gloves and is not taking no for an answer ! If she doesn't choose Nathan , and the friendly thing between Hikam.and Fiona , it would be wonderful if they wrote it where Fiona and Nathan could become good friends ! She cannot have a polygamous situation , so it's one episode remaining until the finale , and it won't surprise me if they go against the book and the school teacher / Monutie ending ! The bizarre thing is had she wanted that kind of life with a gambler , a charmer , a manufactured love , then she easily had the opportunity with Billy Hamilton and Charles from.Hamilton ! This will.be a bizarre ending , and there has been a lot of fans that have said , they will not be watching it anymore , I won't either unless they write Nathan Nathan yo have a friend , perhaps Fiona , because she right now is a far better character , fun , energetic , loyal.to her town and friends , business minded , courageous and brave , as she was the only woman that helped at the explosion site , and she is incredibly beautiful and really gorgeous ! What man would want a physical.woman but , her heart and soul is with another man , and that goes for both Nathan and the saloon owner ! Right now with Elizabeth 's emotions too mixed up and shes using fear to run away from.what her heart yearns for , to trying trying to make herself believe that an infatuated friendship is true love , she is causing herself further heart ache after the manufactured fling begins to dissapate ! Hopefully she will.come around before it's too late !
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenecrenshaw808 Great analysis. Elizabeth is a beloved character not because she is not flawed but because she embodies the spectrum of the human struggle very well. My only critique of her character this season is that the writers transformed her into an immature woman-child, portraying her as a player of hearts, a gambler of sorts. How is that in any way likeable or more importantly, honorable? A character need not be perfect to be a good character; indeed, a perfect character is a false one because perfection is found in God and God alone. But Elizabeth trifled with both men this season and that, that cavalier attitude of hers is what has turned many viewers away from her. It is never permissible to toy with someone's heart. If she felt confused and overwhelmed by her feelings for both men (although the interactions with Lucas always seem over the top and unrealistic) she should have excused herself and taken some time to honestly self-reflect on her own. On her own, being the operative words. But she didn't. I've read comments from Team Lucas fans who claim that Lucas is a patient man, but they need to see beyond the obvious from Lucas. Yes, Lucas is outwardly patient with Elizabeth for now...because he's investing himself in her, wining and dining her, trying to woo her with all the obvious displays of personalized attention, in the hopes that she'll reciprocate. But she won't reciprocate. Lucas does not make her come alive. Lucas does not draw out the dormant passion in Elizabeth. And Lucas is not truly a patient man. No, his patience is a kind of practiced focus. It's calculated discipline with an end goal in mind. Real patience has no ulterior motive, real patience is long suffering because patience itself is its own reward and virtue. And love, real lasting love, cannot be bought, manufactured or forced. The love of a man and a woman does not come about out of a feeling of obligation or gratitude. No, the love of a man and women is borne out of often undefined and not easily explained reasons, part compatibility of values, part complimentary of temperaments, and part free flowing, heart racing magic. Nathan and Elizabeth have the often undefined and not easily explained reasons that give way to such a love. But Nathan certainly was the noble of the two this season, whereas I cannot say the same about Elizabeth.
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariapopovici4467 Beautifully said!
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenecrenshaw808 You are a deep thinker Eugene. Well said!
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenecrenshaw808 Well, if Nathan gets Elizabeth, he will have the best of two worlds since he is in a relationship with Fiona in real life. lol
@evaalbert7729
@evaalbert7729 3 жыл бұрын
team nathan ✨ who’s with me?!
@benf931
@benf931 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
With you! 100%
@francesrodgers6249
@francesrodgers6249 3 жыл бұрын
I am with you it has to be Nathan 100%
@janayadombroski5115
@janayadombroski5115 3 жыл бұрын
Meee
@blanchejones8115
@blanchejones8115 3 жыл бұрын
I am.😀
@juliag1556
@juliag1556 3 жыл бұрын
At this point it is impossible to please all the fans.
@1kenderamus
@1kenderamus 3 жыл бұрын
With Nathan being favored by 70 %, does anybody really believe Hallmark is going to risk losing that big of an audience?
@Soph26hump
@Soph26hump 3 жыл бұрын
I hope 70% is correct. I like to see Nathan more on screen with Elizabeth.
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@1kenderamus I went and added the pole. The total voted for Nathan was 11,000 fans, there are 3 million that watch the show. Bryn Bird said that they did there on analysis as to who E would choose. Who knows. I figure they might want to keep the historically side of it with Janet Oakes book. I also thought that Erin Krakow may want to preserve Jack's legacy. Time will tell.
@1kenderamus
@1kenderamus 3 жыл бұрын
You did not tell us how many the saloon man got. How come?@@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@1kenderamus Sorry Lucas got way less than Nathan.
@beckystout942
@beckystout942 3 жыл бұрын
You go Nathan your the man it takes a real man to walk away i am so glad Elizabeth finally told Nathan she doesn't blame him for Jacks death
@jD-xi1rn
@jD-xi1rn 3 жыл бұрын
I still think she belongs with Nathan.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@jD-xi1rn She does belong with Nathan and she will be his in the end. Keep the faith!
@Pinkflufflove
@Pinkflufflove 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely BLOWS my mind that people say.. I’m gonna stop watching if she picks one or the other.... seriously you are NOT a true fan of the show then! I would love to see her with Nathan but if she picks Lucas I’m not going to stop watching like a mad toddler... the show is so much more then just Elizabeth and who she’s with! Fiona is a great character who I look forward to seeing what she does in a time when mostly men controlled business... we just found out that Henry and Abigail have some connection going on through letters.. Rosemary and Lee are trying to have a child.. will it happen for them or will they decide to adopt? Jess and Clara have all the problems of couples just married to work through.. and will Bill and Molly find love with each other? The show is so much more then picking a team people!
@jamiepead1481
@jamiepead1481 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 💯 Heather. I'm to the point I don't care. This Journey is about Elizabeth going through her lost of Jack. I'm glad Elizabeth forgave Nathan. They are both free. I'm enjoying the storylines. I'm not picking side. I'm just tired of the hate of characters and actors.
@Aurora-ob9ix
@Aurora-ob9ix 3 жыл бұрын
The show is much more than the love triangle but most of the time Hallmark promotes only the love triangle,they have pushed this down people's throat for publicity,asking people regularly which team they are,playing with the emotions of people with the photos they release and the comments they make. People have been so invested that they will react accordingly,a lot of people are going to be very angry and will have to go through a grief process : some for the loss of the future couple they had in mind and others for the loss of the show entirely. I would just say people need to learn the lesson and try not to be so emotionnally involved no matter what is being posted on social media to trick them because hallmark will always post something because they want people to talk about the show.
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t stop watching either but I’d be very very very very very disappointed if it’s not Nathan and Elizabeth. I would want a scene by scene explanation of what they were thinking and a great storyline for Nathan’s happiness next season. Brian bird has said to trust them they know what they’re doing but man oh man they are killing us.
@gigitrish4419
@gigitrish4419 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree with you more When calls the heart is so much more than one person romance it’s a town filled with different and exciting family’s and couples and new business adventures and it’s a good family friendly program I hope people come to realize that in the end # hearties
@xyPERSON
@xyPERSON 3 жыл бұрын
No such thing as a TRUE fan Heather. There are those who are fans of the show, those who are not, and those like myself who just think it's cute to watch. Admittedly though I was among that crowd who wanted to be on either Team Lucas or Team Nathan and you are right about it having nothing to do with teams. Both Lucas and Nathan are good men but Elizabeth chose Lucas and that is that since the show is about her journey. Besides... from what I've been reading online there is a possibility that Nathan could find love with someone else but I guess we'll just have to see.
@rosebud71wilcox61
@rosebud71wilcox61 3 жыл бұрын
I have always known that Elizabeth and Nathan belonged together. They are both the same kind of honorable people. And they both deserve to find true love. I am also glad the saloon keeper roll was replaced with Lucas, but he and Elizabeth are not the same. She belongs with Nathan.
@cecilyjullianmanusiutufui6391
@cecilyjullianmanusiutufui6391 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan already said it all to E, now it’s E’s turns, Up to her to seal the deal❤️
@pamelahoffman3693
@pamelahoffman3693 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly what are the writers thinking? To have Lucas say that to Nathan about pressuring Elizabeth? I have watched this whole entire season 8 and only 1 episode Nathan told Elizabeth he loves her. The rest of the episodes have been mostly Nathan talking to Bill. If anyone has giving Elizabeth space to sort out her feelings it has been Nathan all the way. The guy declared his love and has left her alone most of the season. People wanna say he is rude, a liar etc.. And also most of the scenes between Nathan and Elizabeth have Elizabeth going after Nathan. I wear 👓 and all I have seen this season was a honest man confessing his love to her and actually giving her the space she needs to figure out exactly what she wants. And for the record I do like Lucas but if anyone is pressuring Elizabeth it's him. That's just my opinion. Not everyone is gonna be happy about who she picks, but no matter her choice I honestly hope the writers redeem themselves and she actually picks the one that 100% has her heart.
@jamiepead1481
@jamiepead1481 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you.
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Thank you!
@KaylasMarvelousMakeup
@KaylasMarvelousMakeup 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! And Elizabeth approaches Nathan!! Almost always, she is the one seeking him out. Just sayin 🤷🏼‍♀️
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
In episode 2 I remember him saying it twice. The next time was at the mountie office when E went to confront her. Lets see, Charles proposed first and E turned him down, and then Jack won her heart. Time will tell what's going to happen.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
Tell it! Absolutely correct...what could be more honorable than the way Nathan has behaved toward Elizabeth. He loves her of course, but he is not smothering her. He loves and respects her enough to give her space and time to think as she clearly needs it. Elizabeth on the other hand....where do I start?
@snuggleb100
@snuggleb100 3 жыл бұрын
Fear of going through the same thing with Nathan as with Jack is keeping Elizabeth from letting go n following her heart. Lucas is safe but Nathan has her heart. Don’t let fear keep you from true love ❤️ Elizabeth
@eugenecrenshaw808
@eugenecrenshaw808 3 жыл бұрын
Life has but one guarantee , death ! To live running from what's inside the heart is sad and tragic , and as many has , have and will.continue to do, try and " mask or cover up that which hurts " instead of facing the fears and admitting to the truth ! It's easy to run away, and embrace a " safety blanket " which is a false sense of security , and it is only a temporary fix , and once the fix detetiorates , the problem.and the pain will.remain ! Elizabeth is someone that came to Coal Valley ( Hope Valley now ) in search of adventure, discovery and she wanted to be a school teacher and be of help and service to humanity , she is young and came from a life of opulence and shes well bred , and is a genuine good human but still.she is young , and she doesn't have " worldly or street sense, and that experience with another charmer Billy Hamilton showed her humiliation , anguish and it was a bitter pill to swallow ! She did not plan on meeting her soul mate ( Jack ) and her being young she loved deep perhaps too deep and it nearly destroyed her after Jack died ! Anyone that understands grief , severe pain of the heart , they will surmise that often times people will gravitate towards a safety blanket , to escape momentarily from the pain but it's at when people are at their most vulnerable that it will either " make or break " the individual ! She is prone to flattery and tangible things as most fantasies bring , but once infatuation wanes, and the cold harsh reality of real life returns " Boom." Look out , a fragile spirit will be crushed and it will take a long time to bounce back ! Elizabeth has found a momentary respite from facing what is eating away at her resolve ( Nathan ) the saloon owner told Nathan that he should stop pressuring her , because he sees it's whats blocking his plan , but All is fair in love and war , and now that the fort issue has been put aside , Nathan should keep the pressure going until her defense finally breaks down and she runs into his arms again but this time for good ! Dreams will take you far but....childish infatuation and fantasy will only end in someone gettting severely hurt emotionally and mentally ! That kind of hurt csn actually end with death., but not in this case , just heart break ! The gambler hopefully will see the light and move on but remain in good friends ! Fiona and Nathan might be the ones that seals the deal., one way or another !
@kettelyaustin6974
@kettelyaustin6974 3 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Mcgarry Good luck with your career. I vote for Nathan. Good story.
@carolinesimons1331
@carolinesimons1331 3 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Mcgarry Your acting is superb. You are leading man material for sure. Thank you! I hope you are the one for Elizabeth. It will be total fireworks and dynamite. I really hope that kiss is Nathan and Elizabeth. Nathan and Allie have been just amazing this season. Thank you.
@sarahambrose5601
@sarahambrose5601 3 жыл бұрын
Team nathan all the way I do like Lucas just not with elizabeth
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenecrenshaw808 Eugene, you have such a way with words. Thank you for commenting. What you say makes so much sense and you say what many of us are thinking but don't know how to say it. That truly is a gift, sir.
@len4079
@len4079 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas has been patient and kind. Love is patient and kind #TeamLucas
@annapemble1894
@annapemble1894 3 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more!!!
@jimmienidey8940
@jimmienidey8940 3 жыл бұрын
But do you remember Elizabeth saying earlier in the season, “Love has to be fought for”? Then, I think she was stunned to hear Nathan say it to her. The love is patient love is kind was she and Jack’s thing. “Love has to be fought for!” is she and Nathan’s.
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@cathye.4887 Lets not forget while E was hugging N at the end of season 7- He had not told her the truth. Remember she asked why did you take so long. This not blaming - is not saying that E is in love with him. Time will tell.
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
I sure hope l patience pays off, it's got to be hard. L is only human. E should not have been dating anyone until she deal with the grief of Jack. I was shocked to see WCTH turned into a soap opera drama. Team Lucas until the end! I see Nathan and E as friends only.
@jackifoster98
@jackifoster98 3 жыл бұрын
@@auntiedmc6457 I agree that she should have told BOTH men to back off until she was ready to deal with her feelings. She still is not ready to get past her grief. I do not like that most of the season has been about the triangle when we should have been having better stories from the rest of the Hope Valley citizens. There is more than just the school teacher, Mountie and saloon owner in the town!
@peterthegreatj
@peterthegreatj 3 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth told Nathan she can't be with him because she fears losing him. Fear of losing someone you care about keeps playing this season in when calls the heart. And now Elizabeth is speaking to others saying you can't let fear lose you from loving and feeling joy. She didn't take her own advice. She needs to. I can't imagine them having this as a theme just for her to choose Lucas.
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree that it wouldn’t make sense for her to choose Lucas unless they totally throw us for a loop and say something like Nathan represented her tie to jack. I would not buy that at all and I think they’d miss out on an amazing great love story. I just love Nathan and Elizabeth together and want longer scenes of the two of them ❤️
@lisacorbaley6541
@lisacorbaley6541 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. As I listened to her giving advice to others about taking risks, letting go of fears I kept thinking..are you hearing yourself. It's good advice for you too. You need to take your own advice.
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisacorbaley6541 I believe the risk is Lucas, nathan is safe territory!
@larrywiggin3489
@larrywiggin3489 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Nathan came into the school and presented a plaque to Elizabeth which said “always do what you are afraid of” written by Emerson, I think that the writers inserted that as a clue as to what was going to happen with regards to Elizabeth in a later episode which happen in last weeks edition, she appears to be coming out of her shell and realizing that life is for the living, she’s at a crossroad and must make a decision on which suitor would be the best choice for her and little Jack, as far as I am concerned Nathan is the best choice, but I don’t trust these new writers this yr, I fear they are setting team Nathan for a punch to the gut, I just can’t picture little Jack crawling around playing on the saloon floor, let’s hope for the best, besides there’s just something about Lucas that makes me feel he’s not on the up and up, he’s all about himself and is money driven, not a family man type in my opinion!
@anniebartholomew7122
@anniebartholomew7122 3 жыл бұрын
That must’ve been hard for her to tell Nathan that she doesn’t blame him for Jack’s death
@BrittneyLewis1
@BrittneyLewis1 3 жыл бұрын
It also took forever for Lucas to hold her hand but when Nathan does it she lets him. I just feel she is much happier and content when she is with Nathan
@miriamdevries7627
@miriamdevries7627 3 жыл бұрын
Correction: It took forever for her to *allow* Lucas to hold her hand.
@annemangold812
@annemangold812 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. Thanks for the reminder.
@madelynb7080
@madelynb7080 3 жыл бұрын
I think she SLIGHTLY lifts her hands to meet his too. It could just be forgiveness but I'll take it lol
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@miriamdevries7627 Excellent distinction. Nathan does not need to ask permission because Elizabeth wants Nathan to draw her to him. If she didn't, she'd recoil at the gesture, on sight. Her lips curved into a warm smile when Nathan caressed her hands at the bachelorette party too. We know Elizabeth desires Nathan's touch.
@orsetta7219
@orsetta7219 3 жыл бұрын
@@madelynb7080 Sorry but i think Elisabeth has nothing to forgive to Nathan. He is not at fault, he feel guilty because he's a super responsible man. Elisabeth only give him comfort for his feel guilt.
@lanaydixon7007
@lanaydixon7007 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas is the man. I'm not crazy about how Elizabeth is lately. I also don't like how her friendship with Rosemary has been. She is a good friend to her.
@jackifoster98
@jackifoster98 3 жыл бұрын
I think Elizabeth is the one that put Allie in the middle of all of what is going on with the triangle. It wasn’t Nathan.
@suehodges7796
@suehodges7796 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! You are spot on.
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
Allie got to know Elizabeth as her teacher, and on a personal level because she went above and beyond to help her adjust and make friends in HV. Knowing her and liking her personally, plus seeing how much her Uncle Nathan likes her is how she became involved. I think it was unfair of Lucas to blame Nathan and to use that to tell him to back off of Elizabeth.
@dorothysampson7414
@dorothysampson7414 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicepahler7610 I just don't understand how some are saying that Nathan needs to back off and stop pursuing Elizabeth. The only pursuing I have seen this season and the other 2 seasons is Elizabeth always finding a way to seek Nathan out. When it comes to Nathan that woman is like a heat seeking missile. I have already said the writers and producer have been leading us team Nathan fans on. Nathan never had a chance. I don't believe there have been any red herrings. This season has all been about Lucas and Elizabeth and I sadly believe that's how it will end. Now they want us to believe the tide is turning in Nathan's favor but I don't buy it. She has forgiven Nathan and absolved him of his guilt about Jack but I fear this is only paving the way forward for them to be friends. Wow, they have missed a chance to tell a story of a love so deed that most people can only dream of.
@Cruzan9
@Cruzan9 3 жыл бұрын
Allie does not have a quiet disposition. She observed what was going on and essentially inserted herself by doing the things that she did. From what I've seen none of the adults encouraged her to do anything.
@maryneall3632
@maryneall3632 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I feel like Allie is putting herself in the middle because she has been told by more than one adult and in different ways, not to worry, but she worries. She wants the best for her uncle as all children want for their parents.
@alrad5149
@alrad5149 3 жыл бұрын
That statement from Elizabeth is the beginning of the truth between her and Nathan. It won't be long now. And Lucas knows it.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
You can see in this scene that Nathan intentionally holds himself back; he's exercising so much self restraint in composed form and it is beautiful to behold. It is undeniable that the love he has for Elizabeth will overtake both of them at just the right moment. But here, here...Nathan's eyes say everything...that he trusts in the soon to come realized hope that Elizabeth will let him love her forever. Elizabeth's heartfelt admission to Nathan means everything...her sincerity moves him. It is obvious that Nathan is wordlessly overwhelmed by the wonder that is Elizabeth. Here we have a man who is truly, madly, deeply, undeniably in love with Elizabeth. It's only a matter of time...
@alrad5149
@alrad5149 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@alrad5149
@alrad5149 3 жыл бұрын
And once they have their first kiss... It'll be... Katie bar the door 💋💕🥰😍💋
@dorothysampson7414
@dorothysampson7414 3 жыл бұрын
Hearties as much as I hate to admit it, I think her heart felt apology is setting it up for her and Nathan to agree to only be friends. She has unfortunately already chosen Lucas and by having Fiona tell Allie that she likes fishing they are moving to a Fiona and Nathan pairing. They all have been misleading us to believe that Nathan ever stood a chance. There have been no red herrings. I really hope I am wrong but the writing is on the wall.
@jamiepead1481
@jamiepead1481 3 жыл бұрын
I'm rooting for Hickman and Fiona. I don't know why. We will have to wait to see how it goes.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@dorothysampson7414 There have been many red herrings in Season 8, as Kevin McGarry admitted in an interview last year. I still think Nathan is end game. Why would they allow Nathan to admit his love for Elizabeth twice already in such desperate, raw aching form only to crush him in the end? With Lucas, the magic between him and Elizabeth is not present. It's all so robotic, formal and planned. She smiles and giggles like a giddy school girl, he compliments her, she thanks him. No, I just don't see it. It's forced. With Nathan, the magnetic attraction and push/pull between them is palpable; it is off the charts. Yes, it is more slow moving and caught in the every day rituals but that's exactly how it should be. In addition, Nathan and Elizabeth have hard conversations that often lead to moments where they become more self-aware, more sensitive of the other person's feelings. The relationship between Elizabeth and Nathan is a mature one (not without its conflicts) between adults who push one another, who challenge one another, who anger one another, but who ultimately have the common values to build a future life together. Both Nathan and Elizabeth are family and commitment oriented, whereas Lucas is a restless one...
@zachmccaskill925
@zachmccaskill925 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan all the way
@LyricsbySophia
@LyricsbySophia 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see Elizabeth and Nathen's relationship going in the right direction!
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!! ONLY took 10 episodes to get there.
@lbl5845
@lbl5845 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, N and E have the perfect relationship now! They are good friends only! She is in love with Lucas!!!!!!!
@wlterconvito6804
@wlterconvito6804 3 жыл бұрын
I love"from the bottom of my Heart" finally❤️❤️❤️
@sherryannbadree7565
@sherryannbadree7565 3 жыл бұрын
How this scene remind me of Elizabeth and Charles in the Church and Jack saw them and asume. Hope it dont change. I am team Nathan.
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
The only difference is that Charles proposed first and then Jack one. Remember Nathan has confessed ILY three times to E. Just saying!
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Someone is finally thinking about it! I am Team Lucas!
@marshakarbowsky4660
@marshakarbowsky4660 3 жыл бұрын
Bill's side eye oh my!
@cruiher
@cruiher 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan and Elizabeth love each other. Great couple
@nancygruszeczki8144
@nancygruszeczki8144 3 жыл бұрын
Go Nathan finally a turning point in your direction!
@avi4875
@avi4875 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Lucas shipper and every scene I have to make my peace that I have lost.
@kc5527
@kc5527 3 жыл бұрын
I think Lucas is a great guy now that he’s gone fully Hope Valley. I hope next season they will find him a love for the ages like they did Rosemary.
@lindaphilippi507
@lindaphilippi507 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas has been a complete gentleman this whole time and gave Elizabeth all the space she needed. Hes been kind to her and given her so much and not pressured her this whole time. I'm pulling for Lucas all the way but I am afraid it's gonna be Nathan.
@homespunhomefragrance5659
@homespunhomefragrance5659 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan! I think it’s over for Lucas. He’s showing slowly how he’ll be controlling of Elizabeth. I believe Nathan has the advantage now. Elizabeth has to make her decision now. I hope she chooses Nathan.
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call him controlling. He clearly has reason to feel threatened because Elizabeth is running away from her true feelings. I do like Lucas as a character (who may or may not have a shady past and can grow) but for some reason I just don’t like him with Elizabeth. I think Nathan and Elizabeth is the greatest love story. I think Lucas was needed to lead Elizabeth to open her heart. It just sucks for him though I hope he gets a happy ending as well. I see the parallel with Anne of the Island. The heart wants what it wants and the show is called When calls the Heart so it better be Nathan!!! I really really hope it is.
@pamgrogan9578
@pamgrogan9578 3 жыл бұрын
TEAM NATHAN!!!!
@beruduassasin
@beruduassasin 3 жыл бұрын
i am finding it harder and harder to like Elizabeth. I feel like slapping her nowadays. She strung the two men along and now because of her own indecision, she took it out on Rosemary? Rosemary had been nothing but supportive to her.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It has been extremely difficult to not want to pour some sense into Elizabeth this season. She's acted out of sorts and out of character and it has not been enjoyable to watch.
@charlotteparsons5055
@charlotteparsons5055 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, both guys should dump her and go find someone else. Fiona would be a good pairing for either guy. Elizabeth has gotten too whiney and indecisive.
@charissasolik9129
@charissasolik9129 3 жыл бұрын
She's finally coming out of it, I think!! 🤞 She's been unbearable 😠
@beruduassasin
@beruduassasin 3 жыл бұрын
@@charlotteparsons5055 I really do think Fiona and Nathan could make a good pair. They should invest more on Fiona, i know Elizabeth is the main character, but I am seriously tired of her now.
@beruduassasin
@beruduassasin 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariapopovici4467 U remember in episode 8 when Allie took the invitation she made for elizabeth and tore it up? It was so satisfying to watch! I feel this was the slap that Elizabeth deserved.
@trillyfairy
@trillyfairy 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas has every right! #TeamLucas #Hearties
@jessicawulf3458
@jessicawulf3458 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! Lucas has been so patient with Elizabeth 🙂
@mariasalles4534
@mariasalles4534 2 жыл бұрын
O dia q eu vê o Nathan e Elizabeth juntos eu vou ficar tão feliz q até parece q sou eu vivendo esse momento.Gosto muito do Nathan acho ele muito legal.
@christnastubbs1603
@christnastubbs1603 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan.
@adrianifagundesdeazeredo6530
@adrianifagundesdeazeredo6530 3 жыл бұрын
TeamNathan
@danielaramirez230
@danielaramirez230 3 жыл бұрын
TEAM LUCAS!!!
@blanchejones8115
@blanchejones8115 3 жыл бұрын
Discernment..needed dear. 😀 Sorry it's Nathan.
@luzilenerodriguesdealmeida4883
@luzilenerodriguesdealmeida4883 3 жыл бұрын
#TeamNathan fovever ❤
@beckycross3892
@beckycross3892 3 жыл бұрын
Team nathan
@jemimapeach483
@jemimapeach483 3 жыл бұрын
that was hypocritical of lucas cus he had just told Nathan to stop pressuring Elizabeth and yes he has been pressuring Elizabeth since season 6 practically and the worst one was that horrible "if this was a date" scene, in fact, I used to like Lucas before that scene but then I despised the way he tricked Elizabeth into something she had said she didn't want to do and then pretends this season that he is oh so patient and will give her all the time she needs while at the same time meddling in her affairs
@grammyrose6982
@grammyrose6982 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas said what he did to Nathan because he would do anything for Elizabeth. She complains to Lucas about Nathan and makes it sound like it bothers her. Some Nathan fans say Lucas is pressuring her but she is the one that told Lucas they are seeing each other. Goodness gracious if this was real any guy would be concerned and want to know what is going on. If you go with someone to a wedding you don’t just disappear with another guy. It’s common courtesy. They are both nice men and deserve TV happiness. If she picks Nathan I hope she apologizes to Lucas for stringing him along. She will have to pick.
@donnamccall8299
@donnamccall8299 3 жыл бұрын
NATHAN NATHAN NATHAN 100%!👍💙💜❤
@karisbumgardner52
@karisbumgardner52 3 жыл бұрын
YES YES YES
@fieryredruby
@fieryredruby 3 жыл бұрын
Look if she doesn't want Nathan. Give him to me! 🤣😂
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
That would be some line! lol
@fieryredruby
@fieryredruby 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicepahler7610 Yes it would!
@kc5527
@kc5527 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣💞💞
@jacquelinenoriega7388
@jacquelinenoriega7388 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan!
@ashleyocker4667
@ashleyocker4667 3 жыл бұрын
#teamNathan
@sarajanereid4598
@sarajanereid4598 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad this season is nearly over. It's not enjoyable reading hateful comments. The Nathan fans will get their way; the better man will walk away. With all that is going on with Hope Valley, Nathan may rarely be home. Lucas could lose everything and rise up from the ashes into the arms of a woman more deserving of his love and devotion. Season 9!!!
@Sally-hd3kf
@Sally-hd3kf 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder what Elizabeth would think about what Lucas is saying to Nathan in this scene.
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
I think she would resent it, and she would tell him so. I think she would tell him she is perfectly capable of speaking for herself. And, he knows that--but she won't tell him, so he took it upon himself to do it for her.
@taraz6786
@taraz6786 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicepahler7610 He wasn't speaking for her, he was speaking as someone who truly cares for her and respects her. There is a difference. 🙄
@camilliasmith5962
@camilliasmith5962 3 жыл бұрын
I am team Nathan all the way but it's no one gonna talk about how Elizabeth hurt Rosemary
@martisquires4588
@martisquires4588 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Rosemary just being a good friend.
@hannahlerum9982
@hannahlerum9982 3 жыл бұрын
On comment I was pretty much saying that I wanted Elizabeth to apologize to my girl Rosie for the way she talked to her❤️
@carolinesimons1331
@carolinesimons1331 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan is super good looking. Best looker in HV. Seriously. Don't know how he won't be leading man for Elizabeth. So crazy. A beautiful kind, sincere, courageous, honest man and beautiful Uncle to Allie.
@ab901
@ab901 3 жыл бұрын
Agree 💯, best looking man in HV. Kevin is a very talented actor as well. Definitely leading man category.
@olgadamaristrinidadsanchez98
@olgadamaristrinidadsanchez98 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan❤
@elisabetadumitrescu
@elisabetadumitrescu 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss
@gilbertanne88
@gilbertanne88 3 жыл бұрын
#TeamLucas : Elizabeth talking to Nathan in this episode- forgiving him from the bottom of the heart - is a beautiful one in the series of initiatives that she has been taking from Episode 1. WCTH as much as it is a story about Hope Valley is still a story of Elizabeth and from her point of view. If you accept this as her initiative, then you cannot dismiss any of the deliberate choices she made with Lucas. None of her initiatives to move to the next step with Lucas were impromptu- they all came after thought and deliberation and her being ready, even the act of holding hands and walking together. To dismiss Elizabeth's choices this season and to focus on just the ones she takes in the last 2 episodes, would amount to dismissing E's growth, healing and slowly opening up her heart.
@gshhilario6934
@gshhilario6934 3 жыл бұрын
I agree! I think this season is more about her healing process than anything else.
@aldosrose7774
@aldosrose7774 3 жыл бұрын
Team Lucas
@nancymannino9379
@nancymannino9379 3 жыл бұрын
Love the comments from Maria she is so eloquent and she described Nathan's character so beautifully he deserves to be happy along with Ali only hoping that Elizabeth deserves him team Nathan all the way
@pammilbourne44
@pammilbourne44 3 жыл бұрын
I agree just not with Nathan. Nathan and Ail deserve someone else a new character to come on the scenes. Elizabeth deserves Lucas. Elizabeth is a player and Lucas is devious with a dark side.
@ohistoriador9570
@ohistoriador9570 2 жыл бұрын
Eu logo não queria nenhum dos dois porque pensava que a morte do JACK era um engano, que poderia ter sido sepultado uma outra pessoa por engano, e Jack iria voltar. E também estava com o pé atraz com o Lucas e aqueles joguinho de cartas. E o Nathan estava escondendo alguma coisa da morte do JACK. Mais agora eu prefiro o Lucas. Mais também se ela escolher o Nathan está bom , só desejo que Elizabeth eo Jackquinho fiquem bem.
@isabelaoliveira6582
@isabelaoliveira6582 3 жыл бұрын
Team Lucas!!!
@abruzzival
@abruzzival 3 жыл бұрын
We all know she will pick Nathan, but it breaks my heart (can’t help it, I’m team Lucas). They’re both good choices, so she will eventually be happy with either one. I think they need to introduce more characters and more storylines with other characters. Also, I think it’s time Rosemary and Lee adopt a few children ❤️ They’re such a sweet couple.
@hannahlerum9982
@hannahlerum9982 3 жыл бұрын
Your right about Lee & Rosie they deserve a better storyline like adopting a baby & haven’t had a lot of scenes this season & im pissed
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
That could be true, but i will feel that Lucas was played and no longer be a fan of the show.
@1kenderamus
@1kenderamus 3 жыл бұрын
Please do not be so stressed over a make believe tv show. Its not worth it .1!!!, Please be prepared to see the saloon gambler lose the girl to the Royal Mountie I'll say again, the saloon man is not going to get the girl. Case closed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@1kenderamus Why are you so concerned about how i feel? I have a right to root for Lucas even if he does not win. Even if he does not win- i will no longer be able to watch the show. To much deception towards Lucas is how i feel. Plus i am not a fan of Nathan as a lead. (my loss) I loved jack. This is just life. I have watched since the beginning and i know that the show will do well without me as a fan. The hallmark writers dragged this out, and should have did a different approach if it was nathan. I assumed they would continue the Janet Oakes way, but i am team Lucas until the final episode. There are 3 million views so the show will continue on.
@taraz6786
@taraz6786 3 жыл бұрын
SHE PICKED LUCAS!!! 👏
@casuallymegp
@casuallymegp 3 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, Lucas is a nice guy. And very generous. But like... Nathan has to be the one. The tension is like DAMN.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha! Your comment made me laugh out loud. Still laughing....Keeping it real in flaming spades! Love it so much!
@ab901
@ab901 3 жыл бұрын
Totally! They will need more than dynamites to extinguish that kind of fire. 🔥🔥
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss. Elizabeth + Nathan = epic
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
I almost fell out of my chair when Nathan stroked E's hands with his thumbs...their first kiss and I will probably need CPR!
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and the damn is about to break! That kiss will be a hot one for sure! Shew wee! I'm glad I don't have hot flashes anymore!
@KaylasMarvelousMakeup
@KaylasMarvelousMakeup 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan!!!! 💗💗💗💗💗💗💗
@maryneall3632
@maryneall3632 3 жыл бұрын
My opinion: Elizabeth wants to be with Nathan, but is scared to pursue those because of loosing Jack. I like her with Lucas, but Lucas deserves someone who can give him her whole heart. Elizabeth can't do that if she has unresolved feelings for Nathan. I have a gut feeling that she will pick Nathan because of the comfortable feeling she gets(he reminds her of Jack). On the topic of Nathan pressuring Elizabeth. There is no pressure. He simply told her how he feels. He has not requested her to make a decision.
@cecilyjullianmanusiutufui6391
@cecilyjullianmanusiutufui6391 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas is vulnerable at this point. (He’s human), it’s tough - the game of courting that he was so good at it in the beginning of their relationship!! - what’s next? I’m team N but L is also a good man😄
@beruduassasin
@beruduassasin 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling if ultimately the writers went with Nathan, I think Lucas would step back and let Elizabeth go. I dont know, i can imagine that rom com cliche where the other guy stepped back because he knows that she is more attracted to the main guy. Or probably Elizabeth is not going to choose in the end. I somehow hoped that two new, outstanding women arrive to town and took Lucas and Nathan away. They deserve better.
@jackifoster98
@jackifoster98 3 жыл бұрын
Mary Neall I don’t think that she gets a comfortable feeling from Nathan - I don’t think that Nathan reminds her of Jack! She is always BREATHLESS around Nathan because her feelings for him is very strong and overwhelming! She is definitely not comfortable around Nathan because he brings such strong feelings out in Elizabeth. You can see how she has a hard time breathing around him. Nathan is nothing like Jack. They just happen to have the same job. There are similarities(honorable, protectiveness of others), but Nathan is definitely not like Jack.
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackifoster98 I think she is uncomfortable around him because she loves him and it scares her, I think she gets breathless because she loves him--the way we all do when with someone we love. And, I do not believe it has anything to do with Jack. Jack was Jack and Nathan is Nathan. And, one thing that Nathan offered to do that Jack did not was to quit the Mounties for her. How can we not be on his side!
@jackifoster98
@jackifoster98 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicepahler7610 I agree! She definitely has trouble breathing around him! I think that she loves Nathan because he is Nathan, and not because he has the same job as Jack. I feel Nathan and Elizabeth’s love would be even more epic than hers and Jack’s! I think it scared her to know that Nathan would quit the Mounties for her, when she knew that Jack would not ever do that!
@purefuel8
@purefuel8 3 жыл бұрын
#TeamLucas would be my preferred ending if I was the writer. An unfolding love story. I think Nathan and Elizabeth needed this moment. Nathan is part of Elizabeth's past. He connects her to Jack. Her feelings are tied up in that history. Her next big love is brand new. She will now make a fearless decision to love. I think she will choose Lucas. The last two episodes have been about her tying up the past, goodbye Nathan. Hellooooo Lucas. Don't worry TeamLucas, a minor valley before the mountain.
@maausksa55
@maausksa55 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan is definitely end game, that's clear as day, in my opinion at least. (I'm team Nathan btw).... but I do feel awful for Lucas. The writers essentially wasted his time and a chance for good storylines on him courting Elizabeth. This love triangle should have ended last season with the hug. Not dragged out for ANOTHER full season. I hope we get to explore Lucas more in the next possible season and that he gets to romance with someone new and find happiness.❤
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it truly was a waste...because it did not advance the storyline in any good way at all. The climax happened at the end of last season...but instead of taking that as the turning point, the writers made a wrong turn with the writing of Lucas and Elizabeth this season. What an absolute waste.
@blanchejones8115
@blanchejones8115 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas & Abigail😀 But Henry may not like that.😝
@malikinasrine
@malikinasrine 3 жыл бұрын
That's why i dont like love triangle because when it's not your match, you can dislike the show after. And its too long and a waste of time. I am team lucas and i feel bad for him because it's obvious that Élisabeth is in love with Nathan.
@liznguyen6274
@liznguyen6274 3 жыл бұрын
I will stop following WCTH if Elizabeth chose Lucas because the writer is trying to change the story of the book.
@user-zw8vy3nm2o
@user-zw8vy3nm2o 3 жыл бұрын
@@liznguyen6274 The story was changed with the death of Jack. It's not the book anymore.
@patwhite8741
@patwhite8741 3 жыл бұрын
So love watching this show!
@valdineioliveira1861
@valdineioliveira1861 3 жыл бұрын
Melhor série da Netflix. Sensacional Precisa continuar as próximas temporadas.
@danaembry4844
@danaembry4844 3 жыл бұрын
TEAM LUCAS ALL THE WAY 🥰❤️🥰❤️
@karlabaker2520
@karlabaker2520 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I’m team Lucas as well. The last scene could go either way. I believe she told Nathan she didn’t hold him responsible for Jack’s death but feel she’s going to say her heart belongs to Lucas. All remains to be seen. Whoever she chooses, the show will go on and there are a lot of storylines possibilities still to come. Loved the wedding and that his daughter changed her mind and accepted it. If she chooses Nathan, Lucas will bow out gracefully because he loves her and wants her to be happy unlike Nathan who won’t bow out easily and has stated as much. I noticed too that Allie played up to Fiona so she may change to wanting her for her uncle now. I guess we’ll find out next week!
@gailbroussard1201
@gailbroussard1201 3 жыл бұрын
This how quick things can go the right way. I loved it !!! Everything i wNted to happen. Go Nathan and Elizabeth!!!
@hannahlerum9982
@hannahlerum9982 3 жыл бұрын
#teamnathan😍 I also just want rosemary & Elizabeth friendship to be resolved❤️Lucas can’t tell Nathan what to do I hate that! Another storyline or I think it would be a great one is if we would know more about Rosemary family her parents if she has siblings or something what does everybody think about that?
@donnasanico7309
@donnasanico7309 3 жыл бұрын
Yes team Lukas. Love is really patient.
@rosamariacostaschaitza5164
@rosamariacostaschaitza5164 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan❤️
@igrejadomestica-isadorasan9707
@igrejadomestica-isadorasan9707 3 жыл бұрын
#TeamNathan
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh It just has to be Nathan!!!! I do like Lucas as a character (who may or may not have a shady past and can grow) but for some reason I just don’t like him with Elizabeth. I think Nathan and Elizabeth is the greatest love story. I think Lucas was needed to lead Elizabeth to open her heart. It just sucks for him though I hope he gets a happy ending as well. I see the parallel with Anne of the Island. The heart wants what it wants and the show is called When calls the Heart so it better be Nathan!!! I really really hope it is.
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
It's a win/lose situation. I would never watch a show to see a lead that i am not fond of, and the person i liked have a broken heart. If it were N they should have not did the soap opera approach.
@debbiepinkas2821
@debbiepinkas2821 3 жыл бұрын
I thought they would of decided this esrlier!!!
@charlotteparsons5055
@charlotteparsons5055 3 жыл бұрын
Team Lucas!
@Shiloh_Grace
@Shiloh_Grace 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas 🥰
@jackiegriff62
@jackiegriff62 3 жыл бұрын
Team Nathan
@ivyttea
@ivyttea 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of my favorite scenes and I haven't even seen the episode yet lol. Things are looking up for #teamnathan. Elizabeth seems to be much more comfortable with Nathan in next week's trailer. Also, Elizabeth's dress is SO PRETTY.
@brunaamorim2575
@brunaamorim2575 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas ❤️
@zairagomez6775
@zairagomez6775 3 жыл бұрын
Team Lucas! Really hoping for that ending
@kprabhakaramenon935
@kprabhakaramenon935 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about Lucas as being a charming, handsome, romantic person. But if you look closely at the episodes you will realise that the writers have made him out to be an ambitious, possessive, childish and impatient person. Look at the way he scowls everytime Nathan meets or talks to Elizabeth. Look at how he happens to be around everytime Nathan meets Elizabeth. Did you notice him looking at his watch while waiting for Elizabeth to come out with him to Union City? He looked at his watch again while waiting for Elizabeth to come down for dinner. And what about the scolding he gave Elizabeth for not telling him about his father? Really! What a spoilt brat! He is not portrayed as a good man. Now why would Elizabeth go out with this guy when she has a Mountie who is noble, generous and watching over her. He saved her in the saloon and in the woods. And I am still wondering why elizabeth didn't thank him after he saved her in the saloon. This is creative writing at its cockeyed best.
@kimperry392
@kimperry392 3 жыл бұрын
Well said..😀👍.I truly agree with you 100 % 😀👍
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Excellent analysis and 100% spot on! I could not agree more with your observations...Lucas is only outwardly patient because he's forcing himself to be patient in the hopes of winning Elizabeth. It's not his natural bent to be patient without wanting something in return, whereas with Nathan, it's simply an extension of who he is...he's patient because that's part of his temperament and part because his job demands that he not act impulsively, without thinking.
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that same thing every time he looked at his watch, and we were only talking minutes--so how patient is he.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicepahler7610 Excellent point. The devil's always in the details. His patience is measured in whatever he needs at the moment. I'm sorry to say, but the man, as he stands now, is a snake who aims to divert in order to deceive. Not cool Lucas. Not cool at all.
@1kenderamus
@1kenderamus 3 жыл бұрын
Do not worry ladies!!!!!!!! the saloon gambler is not going to get the girl I repeat!! the saloon gambler is not going to get the girl !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@mariapopovici4467
@lovewins9083
@lovewins9083 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas knows that Elizabeth is in the valley of Decesion and that she loves Nathan. But he keeps hoping it will work out between him and Elizabeth. Lucas is most of the time in a place to always witness the way Elizabeth and Nathan looks at each other. But because Lucas loves her he will let her go because he wants the best for her
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
The Valley of Decision? Ahhhh...that is an actual movie...with Gregory Peck and Carson Greer from 1945. Do you know the movie? If not, you would love it! A romance of the best kind between Peck's character and Greer's character. And the actress (Carson Greer) was 12 years older than Peck too...how fantastically forbidden!~ But yes...Nathan is end game. Exciting!
@eugenecrenshaw808
@eugenecrenshaw808 3 жыл бұрын
I am.not a team saloon owner fan and I don't have anything against him.either , but why have they purposely had him situated nearby each time Elizabeth and Nathan has a conversation , and that's jealousy and some What creepy ! When he left town for about 2 months after seeing her run into Nathan's arms , that shows immaturity and it's puzzling seeing that he is a " worldly man " a gambler that plays for high stakes ! He is mother said that he is the type that bores easily and after he gets what he wants , the thrill is gone , and he doesn't stay in one place for too long ! Running into Nathan's arms, riding off deeply hurt after leaving Nathan standing telling her that he loves her , and deep cry and the look of anguish on here face . it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out ( she loves Nathan very passionately ) with no real quality time with her at all, and the many tangible gestures made by the saloon owner towards Elizabeth , she having fun ( as she said to Rosemary about the saloon owner ) but she says she's with him.at one moment but when Nathan comes around , she has doe eyes ! Soft charmer words , trinkets ,, candle light dinners, flowers and gifts are only tangible but that mystical.bond between the hearts of Elizabeth and Nathan., it's just like breath , you cannot see it but it's real and it keeps our heart warm., they need each other !
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@eugenecrenshaw808 I love your analogies...Elizabeth has doe eyes for Nathan...she sure does. And Nathan's eyes go soft for Elizabeth too. He has fully and completely given her his heart. For what other reason would a man willingly risk his heart if not for the uncontained love that wildly, recklessly, without abandon beats just for her, for his beloved Elizabeth? And you're right -- Love is like the breath you take...you need it but you often can't see it. And...the passion between Elizabeth and Nathan...she awakens a desire in him and he in her...it is simply undeniable.
@lovewins9083
@lovewins9083 3 жыл бұрын
@@mariapopovici4467 no I haven't, seen this movie.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
@@lovewins9083 I think you would love it. It's called "Love Valley of Decision."
@CindaJustice
@CindaJustice 3 жыл бұрын
Nathan!!!!!
@chelseagranger6434
@chelseagranger6434 3 жыл бұрын
Oof. I feel bad for lucas. And if they write her to choose nathan after all the courting she and lucas had this season, I will lose all respect for her. Its not ok to destroy a character for a narrative twist.
@blanchejones8115
@blanchejones8115 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas chose to pursue Elizabeth. Her vulnerability, fear and grief pushed her toward Lucas, but from the first episode of season 8, she showed her feelings for Nathan. However, the fear and pain of losing Jack was too much, so, she went with what was easier even though she knows that Nathan is who she wants and needs. Lucas seems to get what he wants..Not this time.😀
@designdoctor247
@designdoctor247 3 жыл бұрын
Chelsea I agree w you!
@sharonnorton2708
@sharonnorton2708 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I know they said there would be twists & turns, but building a relationship with Lucas for 2 seasons & then rejecting him, just boom, isn't a twist. I'd feel bad for Nathan but he's already been rejected & it's been his choice to keep going after her. It's so hard to try to guess what will happen in the end because everyone says the writers should follow the books so Elizabeth would end up with a Mountie, but maybe it's time to deviate from the books so the storyline will make sense. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that she stays with Lucas in the end.
@Aurora-ob9ix
@Aurora-ob9ix 3 жыл бұрын
@@blanchejones8115 Please Elisabeth has to be held accountable for once.If she was so fragile she should have told Lucas that she is not ready and set some boundaries with him,but she loves all this attention that he gives her.It is always someone else fault when it comes to her,it is not right.I don't like how things have been written.
@julietmcdonald4932
@julietmcdonald4932 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the same thing happen when jack was alive, the guy even go as far as trying to propose to Elizabeth and Jack told her he's worried about her taste in men.
@debrabray4051
@debrabray4051 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like Bill is team Nathan to just by the way he looked at both of them walking out I think team Nathan has a chance come on Elizabeth
@RoyalMasterpiece
@RoyalMasterpiece 3 жыл бұрын
He's always been team Nathan.
@carolinesimons1331
@carolinesimons1331 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I would say Bill is TN. They have a forever Mountie bond.
@micahbarnett2317
@micahbarnett2317 3 жыл бұрын
I hope people see now that Nathan was looking all in love while Elizabeth was not reciprocating those looks. Because she doesn't love Nathan
@zoeclearwater
@zoeclearwater 3 жыл бұрын
In this scene Elizabeth is preparing to let Nathan know that her heart belongs with Lucas. She is clearing the air by telling him it could of been anyone to take Jacks place . So no big deal . The scene with Lucas seeing them through the window is played out in almost every romantic Hallmark movie. I still see there is a lot of confusion but it has only been Lucas and Elizabeth this season. Lucas will leave and Elizabeth will go chasing after him .
@annemangold812
@annemangold812 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t watch it anymore. What a bore that would be. She’s sappy with him. But she’s strong with Nathan. I can’t wait till this is over though. Driving us all nuts
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
They said the man she chooses will be another great love. What makes Lucas a great love? I don’t see it at all.
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
@@annemangold812 agreed!!
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
Of course Lucas is "warning" Nathan. He wants to come across as the one who truly cares for Elizabeth. Nathan confessed his love and there is not a thing wrong with that. Lucas kind of ticked me off when he asked Elizabeth for permission to confront Nathan about why he waited so long to tell Elizabeth about Jack going in Nathan's place (in the last episode). Really? Mind your own business, Lucas! He might be winning points with Elizabeth doing things like that but he is not winning points with some of the hearties. Then he warns Nathan in last night's episode. Nathan is a noble man. He kept his.feelings to himself for a long time until he couldn't anymore. Then he told Elizabeth how he felt. I have like Lucas' character, but in the past two episodes he has seem very much like a player.
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
I also did not like his comment to Elizabeth about going to find out why Nathan hadn’t told her as well. I mean if Nathan had actually killed jack or conspired to make him go in his place or had insulted Elizabeth or something..sure, go demand answers for your girl but in this instance it made zero sense to me. Although him saying “and he’s only told you this now?” is in keeping with the times he threw Nathan under the bus in front of Elizabeth to make him look bad like when the guys were planning jesse’s bachelor party and in the Christmas episode.
@alicepahler7610
@alicepahler7610 3 жыл бұрын
He annoyed me when he brought up his concern for Allie...back off with Elizabeth sounds more like his concern. I mean really, no one is going to be more concerned about Allie than Nathan, so how dare Lucas say this to Nathan. I was ticked off, too when he wanted to talk to Nathan about Jack...all I can say is, I am so glad Elizabeth told him no.
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
@@1370np Lucas has thrown Nathan under the bus more than once. I am so glad there are only 2 more eposides to go. Season 8 will go down in WCTH history as being the most difficult, frustrating, immature season ever!
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
@@alicepahler7610 Exactly! Nathan would die for that little girl. It took some nerve for Lucas to say something to Nathan about it. I think Lucas was very compassionate with Allie and that was appreciated. But again, he wanted to make Nathan look bad. You know Nathan would never do anything to Allie to make her be conflicted about Lucas or Elizabeth. But kids see and understand more than we think they do. Team Nathan!!!
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
@@judynakamura7370 I know! What have these writers done?! I like Lucas' character. We hope Nathan gets the girl but whoever loses the girl will be hurt and fans on either side will be upset. Just doesn't seem right.
@lariviflo9000
@lariviflo9000 3 жыл бұрын
#Team Nathan 💕
@SteviePaints
@SteviePaints 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas makes me nervous. Why is he always watching Elizabeth when she’s not aware of it? On the balcony when she’s on the street, and this time in the window when he knew she was with Nathan outside. This is a bad sign. I would drop Lucas like a hot potato.
@flores2799
@flores2799 3 жыл бұрын
What if Elizabeth was in danger and Lucas wasn’t there watching, and if no one was around. It’s kind of a good thing that Lucas looks out for her. He loves her. That’s why.
@kprabhakaramenon935
@kprabhakaramenon935 3 жыл бұрын
@@flores2799 Seriously. She is with a Mountie. He is acting more like a possessive, jealous man.
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
Yup and sipping his tea 😂😂😂😂😂
@MadeLine278
@MadeLine278 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas was such an ass in the this scene. He had a sweet moment with Allie saying he was going to work it out with Nathan. Then he turns around and uses Allie to try and scare off Nathan. Nathan has been honest with Elizabeth about his feelings while also struggling with extreme guilt for feeling how he feels. During his original declaration he said “I know you feel the same way” and when she rode off he let her. Since then he has simply been honest about how he feels about her. He hasn’t pressured her to answer on her feelings for him and to choose him.
@mariapopovici4467
@mariapopovici4467 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas is a schemer of sorts. He's not upfront but pretends he is not operating in his covert way when that is exactly what he's doing. He's a sly one that Lucas. Our girl Elizbeth better wake up and see past the flush of flattery.
@c.michelle3394
@c.michelle3394 3 жыл бұрын
It’s going to be Lucas
@annapemble1894
@annapemble1894 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope so 🤞
@LK-cn5ln
@LK-cn5ln 3 жыл бұрын
I just love the way Nathan grabs Elizabeth's hands🤣He is so brave and forward. I would say impolite in a way, those days even a bit disrespectful as they had never had any physical contact with Elizabeth before (I think🤔).I think Elizabeth loves his directness a lot, but acting the opposite way.
@patriciak5702
@patriciak5702 3 жыл бұрын
@L K Well, she ran to him and hung on for dear life in front of God and everybody at the end of Season 7! Lol!!! And then held onto his hands at the party. I think the town has grown use to these two. 😄
@MorenitaBonita19
@MorenitaBonita19 2 жыл бұрын
I’m team Lucas :) nobody ever wants the suave successful man…they aren’t always bad just because they have money and are well dressed. He was mature and kind to her…and good looking! I love men like this 💕
@donnamccall8299
@donnamccall8299 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas needs to stay out of Nathan's buisness everytime he's around Elizabeth he's right there trying to hear an see what's going on! just needs to face it she isn't going to stay away from Nathan it's called love!💞 just sayin!🤷‍♀️ Nathan all the way!👍💙💜
@karisbumgardner52
@karisbumgardner52 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@peterthegreatj
@peterthegreatj 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention despite Nathan saying he's fighting for her we have yet to see him seek her out. She keeps coming to find him. People want to say he's pressuring her but she asked him to give her an honest reason and that was his honest reason, he fell in love.
@dianedo8314
@dianedo8314 3 жыл бұрын
It will make u think team Lucas but will be team Nathan- twist folks to have Nathan fight for the the lady he loves ! I am team Nathan but also for story lines, Elizabeth helping with Allie and girl issues along the way and adventure with Nathan as a Mountie for more story line. It will be renewed for sure cuz it will only get better! Team Nathan all the way!
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
It would be a twist if E at the end starts fighting for Lucas!
@dianedo8314
@dianedo8314 3 жыл бұрын
@@auntiedmc6457 not sure if she is cut out to be teacher and a saloon owner’s wife! Not in the cars/story line! I feel like there is something that will come out of Lucas. He is hiding something and he is really not the nice guy he portrays.. I don’t know why but I feel it in the gut!!
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@dianedo8314 We will find out soon only two episodes left. Team Lucas until the end!
@dianedo8314
@dianedo8314 3 жыл бұрын
@@auntiedmc6457 let the best man win her heart! Let’s see ... I am excited for the final episode for sure! When they said toward the end of the season - they meant it! I am sure so when she makes her choice- we fans will be left hanging until next season as to how it be cultivated!
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Nathan is already fighting for E?
@ListenToyourHeart9898
@ListenToyourHeart9898 3 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why she let Nathan take her hands and not push him away is because he reminds her so much about Jack in someways and that’s why she has it so hard to let herself be open about her feelings towards him and he can see that!!!!!!!!!
@desireemieras7971
@desireemieras7971 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as she touched his hands it took me back to when their hands touched picking up those books in the look between them was Unreal. I think there's a connection there ❤
@normasmither202
@normasmither202 3 жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree. I see the connection she has with Nathan. I see the longing between them. I see the looks they gave each other before season 8 when all this flirting with Lucas started. I saw Lucas and Elizabeth sitting beside each other at the wedding but they were not holding hands. She was touching her wedding band and was looking at it. Lucas was watching her. He sees what is going on now. Hopefully we will all see Elizabeth choose Nathan in a couple of weeks. But whatever happens I hope they will eventually be friends and there will be some healing from this bizzare love triangle.
@WampumGirl51
@WampumGirl51 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it strange that Lucas didn't ask Elizabeth to dance.
@karisbumgardner52
@karisbumgardner52 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm same
@joanjones6394
@joanjones6394 3 жыл бұрын
They haven't been together much this episode because last episode when he asked her what did she say to Nathan when he told her he loved her and she said nothing just walked away. Lucas was hurt so he's giving her room to make her decision which he has told her he would. They weren't even talking together after the wedding. But I am still TL
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
@@joanjones6394 It's obvious the writers have left alot of questions unanswered, but it coming soon!
@selmaalexandre2684
@selmaalexandre2684 3 жыл бұрын
GOooooooooooooooooo NATHAN!!!
@jeanneberndt118
@jeanneberndt118 3 жыл бұрын
Who does Lucas think he is saying that to Nathan? Lucas is getting very scared.
@martisquires4588
@martisquires4588 3 жыл бұрын
I think Lucas is scared too. He mentioned Allie and think that was because that would have an impact on him. He's running scared because he has seen so many times how Elizabeth reacts to Nathan.
@ckrobin4914
@ckrobin4914 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas practice what he preaches: patience and NOT pressuring Elizabeth. (That’s why Lucas did NOT smother Elizabeth with his attentions at the reception, no dancing, dominating her time...ZIP!) Thank GOODNESS we only have less than two weeks till Elizabeth finally declares her love!
@1370np
@1370np 3 жыл бұрын
But he did lean in for a kiss the very next time he saw Elizabeth after said she needs things to go slow, he did pout about her making it clear she doesn’t want to hold his hand in public leading to her agreeing, and he did tell her it’s not her duty to be worried for Allie (which doesn’t concern him at all)...I’d say that’s definitely pressure if you think of Nathan expressing his feelings (when asked mind you) is pressure :)
@blanchejones8115
@blanchejones8115 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas is the one pressuring Elizabeth not Nathan. Nathan spoke what was in heart. Elizabeth always finds away to be in Nathan's presence. Lucas on the other hand is spying, going to her house asking questions, standing on the balcony looking to see who Elizabeth is talking too. He has showed up at door early in the morning to take her horseback riding knowing she had class. How many times has he taking her and Jack for a walk or ride? Never!! It's like Jack does not exist. Nathan does take time for him even though it is short due to the circumstances at the time. Elizabeth and Jack are package deal. Lucas is interested in a beautiful woman and whining and dining her. I believe in season 6.. Lucas told, Elizabeth that, he was not ready for kids. I believe this will be one of the things, that will cause her to choose Nathan.. I know it would be a deal breaker for me.😀
@jeanenefortin2685
@jeanenefortin2685 3 жыл бұрын
Team Lucas ~
@gloriasullivan949
@gloriasullivan949 3 жыл бұрын
I'm team Nathan. The only time the entire season that I thought Lucas had a chance was this episode until the end. Then wow it's team Nathan.
@auntiedmc6457
@auntiedmc6457 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Lucas has been at the bottom the entire show, but i am still team Lucas until the end!
@lovewins9083
@lovewins9083 3 жыл бұрын
Lucas is what Elizabeth wants, Nathan is what she needs.
@Reinainspired
@Reinainspired 3 жыл бұрын
Thankful that she’s made amends with Nathan! Rosemary is next and rings and finally confessing her love to Lucas!!! 💕💖🥰💖💕
@gilbertanne88
@gilbertanne88 3 жыл бұрын
True looks that's the order of things to come 🙂
@anamariasilva42
@anamariasilva42 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Nathan forever!!!!
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