Survivors guilt!! Not love!! Lucas loves Elisabeth! "Love is patient, love is kind" Lucas has not rushed or pushed anything. He will tell her he loves her when the ring comes off. When he know she is ready to hear it.

@@vanessarubalcaba9225 I think Nathan has also been patient :) It does not envy (Lucas was jealous) It keeps no records of wrongs (Lucas was upset she didn’t tell him about his parents, said what would you know about love, you made it clear you’re not comfortable with public display of affection...) Always hopes (Nathan is still hoping) I just wrote this in good fun! I think Erin has done an incredible job acting. I truly can see it going either way because as viewers we don’t know what’s in Elizabeth’s heart. I have my preference but the looks have been intense with both. We shall see!!

I sure hope she picks Lucas. He would take care of her with love and respect.

@@vanessarubalcaba9225 I respectfully disagree. We will all see who she chooses soon.

I might be wrong but it seems as if the team saloon owner fans are on his side because of surface things , for instance " he's so handsome , he treats her so nice , he has more in common with her , he's rich , and blah blah blah , but in the long run will those Surface things last ? I could understand teen age girls , infatuated young ladies being aroused by the tangible things , but I'm.willing to bet there are a lot that are older and that makes you wonder are many females today caught up in looks , manufactured happiness and etc. Here you have a young woman who comes from opulence and has lived a much privileged life. , but there was something stirring inside her spirit , that motivated her and inspired her to reach for higher aspirations , rather than remaining in her present life ! She ventured towards a completely different existence, a small quaint little western town and she sought out the" pioneer spirit " and settled in and met a lot of new friends! She was living her dream., being a school.teacher in a place that she could make a difference in the lives of the children ! Coming from an opulent life, never did she imagine in her wildest imagination , that she could and would fall in love with someone that was much different than her , but she has a heart of gold , just young and green.and without " worldly or street sense , but her heart was pure ! Being young and some what naive , she met a man , a charmer who tried to woo her with deceptive motives , and this new experience had her going against the advice and the protective words of the young Mountie . the guy Billy Hamilton made her feel shame, heart broken and very angry ! The Mountie was only looking out for her and had her best interest at heart ! As each season went, the love between them.grew and new adventures came ! The most horrible thing happened with Jacks death and Elizabeth 's heart was crushed and the pain she bore was devastating ! With the entire town's help she was able to at least stand again, breathe a little until she discovered that she was with child , and a new experience occurred ! Now she sees another Mountie in town and being curious she ( not Nathan ) ventured over to the jail and made the " first " move and introduced herself and soon they started communicating whenever the occasion raised! She seemed to had grown some feeling a for him.as time went by and each time that what appeared as him.being shy , it confused her because she could not understand why ? She was unaware of a secret he was holding inside and the time She said to him., when you figure it out let me know ( that was a major hint ) imagine anyone that has strong feelings for another but they cannot openly express what's in their heart because of a secret that is literally eating them.alive ! Now she meets a new man while walking with Rosemary and Rosemary with her usual perky self uttered " oh he seems charming " but instantaneous , she said emphatically " oh no ! Those charmer types they are no good , they get what they want and quickly leave ! That is very similar to how his mother described him.! He saw a young woman , bright and pretty , with a beautiful spirit , a kind and caring spirit , and he used charm.and flattery to move her ! As time went by an infatuation started and being vulnerable from.her coping with grief and her messed up emotions , she said that she needed to be able to breathe a little , and to escape from.the mounting pressure of real life after Jack ! The infatuation was manufactured with so many surface things and The other team.cannot see that its all a fantasy , a dream , an escape from.reality for awhile thing ! The saloon owner has shown periodically bouts of insecurity and its highlighted everytime he sees Elizabeth with Nathan whether it's friendly encounters or heated in anger! After the scene where she unfriendly hurt Rosemary's feeling a by lashing out at her , similar to the she did Nathan , she had a conversation with Ned's daughter and I believe that slowly awakened the old Elizabeth , and something changed at the wedding , she wrestled with should she grab the saloon owners hand but she held back , then at the reception they did not dance with each other , and when she looked over at Lee and Rosemary and saw the look on her face , she then tapped Nathan on the shoulder and asked him.would he walk outside with her , he agreed but with some hesitancy , but when she opened to Nathan and told him that she doesn t blame him.for Jack's death , that gave him.much relief , and when he grabbed her hands and looked into her eyes , it was a warm moment that was long long overdue , .....and the Saloon owner was looking creepy at them.im the window , and it angered. Him.! Now it does not mean that she will choose Nathan over him , but how do you choose one man friendship., but your heart is with another ? Nathan truly Loves her and he did not have to resort to surface tangible things , flowery rhetoric , No, all he did was ....be himself , just as Jack did ! Team Nathan !

I wonder why we like watching these scenes over and over again🤔Maybe we wish to be in Elizabeth place having gorgeous men admitting their love for us...

Jack told E “Love is worth fighting for”....now N used the same phrase!

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I agree. Interesting episod. Finally Nathan said why he didn't said anything before. A dilemma for him. But I always be Elisabeth / Jack team. Really the best team forever.

Umm the right time would have been when he first came to town. He should have just told her. That's like saying to someone, "I love you, but just you know I have a devistating secret to tell you that I've kept from you for years", "but please just know I love you." "That makes it ok right?" "Cause I love you?" He was selfish, he only thought about how if he told her he might lose her. He could of told her anytime.

@@vanessarubalcaba9225 not so easy to tell what Nathan had to tell Elisabeth, especially after he felt in love with her...but whatever been the aftermath and pressed by Elisabeth he confessed all the story. Now let's go!!! 😉😜

@@vanessarubalcaba9225 Really. When he first came to town. No one would even talk to the man when he first came to town. Everyone was literally walking around whispering and staring at the man like he wasn't welcome there. And when Elizabeth introduced herself to him he told her that he had heard that Jack was a great Mountie and she responded that Jack was a great man. So what was he supposed to do blurt out oh by the way I was supposed to lead that training mission that he was killed on.

@@dorothysampson7414 ok not on that exact moment, but he could of told her shortly there after, after they started becoming friends. Not when you tell someone , " I love you!" "Oh but by the way!" Plus I don't think he ever would of told her. The only reason she found out that he was at fort Clay was because Ally said something. She is feeling betrayed by him, she doesn't understand why he didn't tell her. I would feel the same way. I feel he was selfish by not telling her, he was fearful she wouldn't understand that so he kept it hidden. He could have told her, she would have felt less betrayed instead of hearing it second hand and then having to force him to come clean.

Amen 🙏🏽

Elly, A hearty AMEN to your comments!

@Elly C, yes! He has a duty to serve and protect, a mountie way of life to honor what he signed up for to serve. Was guilty of not telling her bec was never right moment to do so until he fell so hard for her and now is fighting for her heart to open up and not be afraid, willing to give up his profession...Jack didn't there's the difference between the 2.

Sound perfect

Thank you🙏 for saying👏 Hopefully she relies the kind on man he is, a Nobel, honorable, unselfish, a man who LOVE her, little Jack unconditional❤❤💑👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 one thing I am glad Rosemary gave a look as to say are you kidding about that redicular remark! "I Didn't ask him for him to protect me n I didn't ask him to LOVE ME!🤔🤨😯 Again glad RM gave her that look👀👏n hope E realize that what she said? The heart does what it does ❤❤💞💑

I completely agree

How could you say that Nathan is all some 😠😠😠😠

Very well said. I really want Nathan for Elizabeth but man I loved that scene with Lucas and ally! That scene made me think if it does go the other way, I can be okay with it. But I really think Elizabeth is fighting her feelings for Nathan otherwise she wouldn’t care enough to be so angry and always approach him as she has been since season 6. Nathan’s actions make so much more sense to me now but I’d like him to be a bit kinder towards Lucas now. I’ve always thought there was something fishy about Lucas but maybe I was wrong so when Nathan does realize that as well I hope they can learn to be friends like rosemary and Elizabeth. Love love love this show !

@NP I have not watched this last episode yet. I have decided to watch episodes 8-12 after she makes her decision. I watch these highlights because I don’t mind spoilers. Lol! Based on how they have written the story before this season, I had come to consider Nathan the better choice. What I wrote was just as much a talking to myself (and a reminder as well) as it was to anybody else. Lol!

@@1370np : I think Nathan problem was when they came to Hope Valley, Lucas had taught Allie how to cheat at card game.

@@patriciak5702 I think you shared some really good unbiased thoughts. I agree with you in that I would love to see Nathan and Lucas become best friends. Anything is possible in Hope Valley. I am Team Nathan but I love Lucas too.

I suspect a new love interest will come to hope valley and end the triangle..get ready for a new character next season..possible a women doctor..the story line may play out when the other two leave together and get married

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My heart!!!!!

Me toooo

I too watch it repeatedly 💔

Me too.

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Team Nathan

ALL OF THIS.

I think she LOVES NATHAN but doesn't want to allow herself to believe it. Because she would have to face her fears.

Yup. That's because he's a Mountie and that's got her freaked out.

But that seems to be her standard reply anymore...a red-faced 'Scuze me!' no matter who she is speaking to.

I think Lucas is all ready realizing where Elizabeth heart lies and with who. From this current conversation they just had about him asking her what did she says when Nathan told her he loved her not once but twice! I think given the man Lucas is he going to end things with Elizabeth because he knows. And this is one of the best comments in this comment section I completely agree with you

No Lucas will wait for Elizabeth to make her choice and decision. As far as I can see Lucas is the better man for her.

@@nav2523 I could see this happening in real life if she does or not. According to Lucas character and Lucas is a good guy but not the guy for Elizabeth

@@zakarifreeman3245 sorry have to agree to disagree. Nathan is a good guy but at this point I’m about to scream if she doesn’t make her choice known soon. I mean come on! This is beyond boring now. Will she?won’t she? Dragging it out for two seasons is ridiculous at this point. So Elizabeth make a choice I’m team I don’t care anymore.

E is still very much in love with her dead husband! Both men should leave her alone and only time can tell, when she's ready to love again! I'm a little tired of love triangle business🤣

Oh my gosh me too. I rewound this scene a few times hehe.

I watching this scene since last night I watch it over and over I’m doing that right now!! 😥❤️My heart aches for Nathan because you can tell when she leaves he’s like heartbroken and wants to cry it gets me I was crying right after the season last night

I’m watching this scene constantly all day. And this gets me so much!!❤️ I Nathan so much

I totally agree! But how in the world are they going to bring all this about in 3 more episodes? What would get to Elizabeth more than anything? Maybe little Jack doing something that puts him at risk and Nathan rescuing him? Next Sunday will mostly be about Ned and Florence's wedding and then we have 2 episodes. Should be interesting!

You're always right on !! Its so obvious they are making a slow burn of her final decision ...but BBird, at one promo said it as much it will be a BOOM!! fans will be "ROLLING And Gasping " in final episodes of this season8 which I think is mean and cruel for the fans of the team who E will not choose! This Season brought too many negativities...except for Ned and Florence, the Canfields, and Henry finally reunited with his son!

@@emydel679 Oh, I know. It's been kind of a cruel season. Lucas fans would be left wondering why would they let Lucas be with Elizabeth this entire season just to end up with Nathan. (I as a Nathan fan believe they are just missing the slow burn romance, and the tiny moments with Nathan that show where her heart is) but I digress I still believe it's cruel. AND Nathan fans if Lucas is chosen would be left wondering why they led us to believe it was a love triangle, with all these tiny hints to look for, if she chooses Lucas. Why give us false hope and tell us Nathan is still in the triangle if it's one side. Even more. How cruel to not even give Nathan a chance, a date, anything of the sort. If he never stood a shot they shouldn't be expressing that it's a love triangle. It should have been made more clear that Lucas was the final choice as it was very clear that Charles was never going to be Elizabeth's choice. But, instead, they keep bringing up all these moments with Nathan and Elizabeth, and these tiny, passionate moments and telling us the triangle isn't over. Even the last episode says, "Elizabeth makes her choice," Part of me believes that they wanted to show Elizabeth with Lucas and give Lucas fans these dates, this small romance as a way to give both Lucas and Nathan fans some stuff to be happy with. But, in the end, she chooses Nathan and that's when Nathan fans finally get their moments. It's kinda cruel. But I have known of shows to do that in big triangles as a way to say, "We appreciate the ship, here are some amazing moments, they do care about one another, but they're just not the endgame."

@@peterthegreatj thank you again, its how I feel very much so...it was never triangle 🔺️..perhaps to make their story more entertaining (not for me) but caused so much grief for most of the fans now! Wonder what we can do to protest this to the HM power to be!?? (Lol don't have a twitter acct ) I'd like Brian Bird and J. Tinker to know what I think! THANK YOU, you're so kind to respond and thanks to@The Little Scenes as well for keeping us positive with her lil analysis and videos!

@@peterthegreatj great points. I totally agree with everything you said!

Agree. She’s more of a gay person in that show

Ya it should push her more towards lucas , since she literally told him she should follow her own advise and then persued lucas.

Safe option is choosing no one. Lucas isn't a safe option. Its still opening your heart and giving ur heart to someone else.

Honestly, the better choice would be choosing herself and little Jack. She hasn't really fully recovered from the loss of him. She became pregnant, couldn't even put the nursery together, had him, had to carry on and go back to school and raise him. I think she needs time to herself and to really deal with things. It's not fair that she's led Lucas on and treated Nathan like Billy. She has healing to do. Another man will not fix it.

@@RoyalMasterpiece I understand your point. However, I don’t think it’s a matter of another man having to heal her. That’s not the answer. But if her heart has truly loved again, and I believe we’ve seen enough to know it has, then it’s a matter of completing that healing and moving on. It’s been 3 years.

If I were Hallmark, this is how I would handle it. I would have Bill Avery talk to Elizabeth. I would point out that there are no guarantees in life, but that you have to live each day to the fullest. Look how terrified she was when Jack was going to the NW territories, and he returned unharmed...and then, a so-called easy safe training assignment resulted in his death. Nathan puts his life on the line as a Mountie, and yet, he is raising his niece because his sister took gravely ill and died. And then, you have the example of that commander that served with Jack's father (I forget his name)--never married or had a family--and safely retired from the Mounties. He could tell her Lucas might seem the "safer" choice, but we love with our heart, not our brain.

I agree! How do these emotions get straightened out in 3 more episodes?! I love these characters and these actors. I haven't loved season 8 so far but last night we made better progress.

And so rude.

At least someone is nathan all the way

OMG...when she held his hands, I about fell out of my chair. Their first kiss is going to be ELECTRIC!!!

@@jeanpeet8817 There is more than someone. There are a lot of Nathan supporters that are with him all the way.

@@dorothysampson7414 team Nathan all the way!!! But it’s giving me stress. I’m not really entertained. If she picks Lucas I would’ve preferred no longing looks towards Nathan and no running around after him for the past two seasons. I honestly can’t even predict what will happen..they could even do two alternate endings at this point lol I don’t know what it is but I just cannot be okay with Elizabeth and Lucas even though I like the actor. It hassss to be nathannnn

@@1370np I couldn't agree more. I was concerned when Rosemary told Nathan he should step back and not cause problems like she did with E and J. Could this be saying she wants Lucas? I hope not. I am Team Nathan all the way and always have been. It will be heartbreaking if she chooses Lucas.

I thought I had missed it..Thanks for confirming that Lucas has not said I love you to Elizabeth the way Nathan has twice...

It would be wrong of Lucas to blurt out 'I love you' when Elizabeth who is slowly moving forward specifically said she wanted to take things slow. Since she said that, both of them have been taking several small steps together. I would think less of Lucas if he were to say the words 1.) despite E saying what she wanted 2.) just because Nathan also said it !

You are so right. One neighbor told me that she thinks Elizabeth has had a part in leading Lucas along. Agree?

@@debrawooten4158 Personally I don't think that she purposely meant to allow this flirtation to escalate as it has , and I'm not a fan of the one sided triangle , but she has met a dilemma , a mental crisis that she wasn't as prepared for , seeing that she is a human being , a young woman that exemplifies good morals , kindness , a gentle spirit , who comes from well to do background , well.mannered and she holds herself to high standards , but she is " YOUNG " and she is easily prone to flattery , charming men, ( aka Billy Hamilton ) , refined men ( Charles ) and it often sways her right thinking and infatuation creeps in , and it messes up things for her ! She loves " too deep " and that can become a dangerous thing for the stable mind , if tragedy occurs , which it did with Jack dying ! She has not been her old self , and she's making certain decisions based off of hurt and pain ! She made the first move towards the new Mountie , when she saw him and ventured over to the jail and introduced herself and from then after they had brief encounters and I believe it was like tiny steps leading up to love between them.! There have been too many instances where she " looks for him " and the way her facial expressions and that gleam in her eyes , you cannot manufacture that , it comes from inside the heart and it's true love ! The trauma she has suffered with Jack passing , her unexpected pregnancy has shaken her faith , her spirit , and it causes her to be conflicted and when someone says something that doesn't agree with her , she easily gets angry and she lashes out ! What she is wrestling with I don't envy, for that is heart wrenching and it taxes the conscious mind , with Abigail gone and Jack , she feels abandoned , fear , mixed with emotions , and when Nathan finally opened. up and confessed that he loves her , she shuddered shuddered because she knew that she had to get out there before her heart melted and she could not control herself ! Rosemary said " oh my it's good that you got out of there because who knows what would have happened if you had stayed,Elizabeth said " I know but it was not nice how I left him there pouring out his heart like he did , I just feel so bad ! She is running away from the truth , what's inside of her heart ! She happily said to Rosemary . " I'm.having so much FUN with the saloon owner " , ......this is an escape for her and a safety blanket and she admitted that she doesn't know what she wants , I so mixed up , I just can't think. straight ! I could be wrong but I believe the infatuation bubble will be about to burst , because the gambler is suspecting his biggest fear , that she actually is in love with Nathan ! Finally, when Nathan said at the work site that he was not giving up on her , the gambler said " ok but you better be doing it for Allie and her and not for yourself " ! Then when he asked her " after. Nathan told you that he loves you......again , what did you tell him ? She replied " I said nothing and I just left " ! He left with a dejected look and I believe that bit will be he that will suggest a " happy medium " ... It's obvious that you are running from your heart which is with Nathan and that will make her see the truth and that will. Make his journey from being a mysterious. businessman into a really nice guy and a well liked member of the town ! I could be wrong !

@@eugenecrenshaw808 Eugene, I just love to read your posts. You are a voice of reason. Well done!

Yes I so much agree with this. And of course because he loves her and not just because he feels like he has to protect her.

ALL OF THIS. He's also good with Little Jack.

Totally agree. I don't think Jack would have trusted Lucas in general, let alone with his widow and child. I do think he'd trust a fellow Mountie!

​@@dreaxmusic well it's Nathan after all. Yes!

😂😂😂 I totally agree with that and that would be very, very funny!

Totally agree!!! It's completely ridiculous. I think Nathan should leave town.

@@8Aissac8 yeah, maybe E will miss him...just rewatched the S5, where she said her vow to Jack, ..she came to Hope Valley not expecting to find love...yet after several not so friendly encounters with Jack, and the Billy and Charlie in between interest in her, they eventually realized after the dog and storm, led them to the cave, Jack saved her in many occasions and so did Nathan. Can't help comparing Jack and Nathans path toward winning Elizabeth...maybe am just biased....what do you guys think!!?E didnt expect to find love in HV, while N was noble.enough to think abt a young mother and guilty bec of circumstances and wanted to protect Jack's lil boy...and without planning, he fell in love in the process! To me its a great love story!! esp period,, 1920s

Because she knows in her heart that Nathan's hands are the ones she should be holding.

The spark!

She’s gay

Because of a feeling that it felt right. She lost her breath when her hands went into Nathan's hand. She even smiled until she realized it wasn't Lucas. It's signaling that her heart wants Nathan but her head wants Lucas.

@@peterthegreatj her heart belongs to Nathan. She begins to realize that she is in love with Nathan. She needs more time to accept the fact.

he acted like jerk to lucas from the start... cos he saw him and elizabeth talking. seems like guilt

@@varisol6675 He treated Lucas that way because his first interaction with Lucas was trying to prevent a fight between Jessie and Lucas which ended with him getting a punch to his face that was meant for Lucas and he ended up getting put in jail by Bill because no one knew he was the new Mountie. His second bad encounter with Lucas was after Lucas taught Allie a card trick when she skipped school and used that card trick to cheat the children at school out of their lunch, snacks, and money.

@@dorothysampson7414 i might add Lucas put Elizabeth in harms way with that scene in the saloon when goons came for him and took her as hostage, Nathan came to the rescue..don't remember Elizabeth thanking Nathan for that either....like Jack Nathan saw to it that she was safe and lil Jack!

I hope Nathan and Lucas become best friends and Lucas becomes like an uncle to Allie. I’ve always thought those two had a sweet friendship and understanding of one another.

@@pgibbons25 Me too! Me too! I hope Nathan and Lucas will be best friends like Elizabeth and Rosemary. There have been times where I was fristrated with Lucas, but last night I just wanted to hug his neck.because he was so sweet and so good with Allie. Poor little think is so conflicted with what she sees going on. I am Team Nathan, but I love Lucas' character. After last night, I gained respect for him.

@@normasmither202 same here!

@@normasmither202 I gave his points for his treatment of Allie, but I wanted to wring his neck when he offered to talk to Nathan about Fort Clay. I don't know why he thought that was his place to question him about it. I do think Lucas will be ok when she chooses Nathan, though. Hopefully, they will bring in a love interest for him like they did for Rosemary.

Yes, it seems but I have some problems, 1) why does he talks in Elisabeth's place? The relationship between Ally and Elisabeth is a problem that the two of them have to solve. 2) The reason why he tolks is perhaps to get rid of a problem between him and Elisabeth, (Elisabeth loves Ally) 3) Elisabeth is not a trophy to win and therefore it is not true that it is a question between the two men. I hope someone tells Ally that respect for the will of others (including Ally's wishes) is one of the most important things in life. 4) Strange example, does he feel like the one he had tried to split her parents, the extra third? 5) Why does he immediately run to tell Elisabeth? I want to tell you that I have solved your problems ....... see how good I am. I didn't understand if Elisabeth was really happy with this interference.

To tell him that she’s gay

How could you not glow with that handsome sexy man

I know right all Rosie was trying to do is being there for her & helping her out & she had no right to talk to her like that!

She said to Nathan "haven't you ever lost someone so close to your heart" and he said not yet. I'm thinking she will pick Lucas and Nathan will tell her now that he has lost someone close to his heart. This would actually break my heart because I am Team Nathan 100%♥️

@@cherylwatkins1928 I am Team Nathan too! I absolutely think she will choose Nathan. Lucas is just a smoke screen.

@@cherylwatkins1928 oh please don't say that let us have hope that she will still choose Nathan #TeamNathan

That’s because Elizabeth is still hurting. And she doesn’t know how to handle all of this situation at all. Elizabeth’s heart is still with Jack. She’s trying to move on. But it’s not easy.

@@andreagomezs1 yeah but she shouldn’t be talking to my girl Rosie like that! Rosie was just trying to help & be there for her!

@@hannahlerum9982 yeah I get it.. But Elizabeth needs to process all of this. Old wounds have been reopened

@@andreagomezs1 yeah I get what your saying are u Rosemary & Lee couple fan?

@@hannahlerum9982 yeeees!!! I love the Coulters. Lee and Rosemary are so good together ❤️

Ummm have you even watched this season? Elizabeth has been the one who has taken the lead with her and Lucas. Not him. Yes he has taken her on dates but she found him and told him she was going to fallow the advice that she gave his mother about love, and told him she told nathan that she could not give him what he wanted, she grabbed his hand when he put it out at dinner, she cheers's to "us" at the picnic, she asks him to walk her home publicly after telling him she wants to share in all his joy and sarrow extending her hand out, she taps the seat and asks him to sit with her so they can talk and she leans in for a kiss that he stops. She literally says his name with a smile when she grabs nathan's hands thinking they are Lucas's. She is in love with Lucas. Shw cares for Nathan yes and she may love and care for him, but her heart is with Lucas.

@@vanessarubalcaba9225 Have you ever considered that it could be the other way around? Is he afraid of love for Nathan and is she forcibly pushing himself towards Lucas? Why does he retreat when Lucas tries to touch her? Is it you who sets out to show what you feel why? If you have feelings for someone, you always do it. If she really loved Lucas she would always touch him. Then I would like the writers to also grant us the opportunity to see a meeting between Nathan and Elisabeth where they can talk about what they feel, maybe they discover that they are just friends. I know that's denied.

@@vanessarubalcaba9225 Sorry but her head may be telling her she wants Lucas but her heart is with Nathan. That smile and saying Lucas' name when she was blind folded had desperation written all over it. As you yourself stated she has been walking all over town holding Lucas' hand, holding his hand at dinner, and in his office. So how could she not have known that she wasn't holding Lucas' hands. Elizabeth wants to be in love with anyone but Nathan because losing him scares her to death. I find it odd that she didn't decide to seek out Lucas to tell him that she wouldn't be seeing Nathan anymore and she was looking forward to seeing where things would go with him until after Nathan told her that he was in love with her

@@dorothysampson7414 I just watched all the episodes over 1-9, twice. She lit up when Lucas came back after louisiana and was so excited to see him, she was not like that with Nathan. When Nathan asked her to dinner she was very hesitant it's cause she knew she had already made up her mind about him, but went cause it was all 4 going, more like friends and less like a date.Elizabeth, little Jack, Ally and Nathan ran Into Lucas and saw a woman getting off the stage coach (his mother) Elizabeth got jealous when she saw lucas hug her, her face said it all. asking him lucas ("whom might this be?" ) With her eyes. And when she found out it was his mother you could tell she felt mortified, then told Nathan she wasn't feeling well. Helen confided in Elizabeth about lucas dad, Elizabeth was avoiding lucas when She told Nathan basically she doesn't want to be with him and he told her he loves her. Elisabeth didn't tell Lucas she wasn't seeing Nathan anymore until after they reconciled about his mom's confession, that when Elisabeth decided to take her own advice about love, shortly after her and Lucas got closer and closer Something else that's resonated with me in episode 1 is "Lee tells Jesse that love is more than just an emotion or a feeling it's a choice it's the choice to choose to love and show love every day in your marriage." I little later on Elizabeth tells Rosemary in episode 3, I know I made the right 'choice" in not "choosing" Nathan, but I do not know that I have "chosen" to be with Lucas. This was after Nathan said I love you to her, then her and Lucas reconcile and she takes her own advice about true love therefore "choosing" Lucas. I don't deny that she doesn't have feeling for Nathan. But I believe her heart is with Lucas. Her guessing Nathan's hands were Lucas's doesn't say anything, now had she not of uttered lucas's name with a smile I might feel differently , or if she would of grabbed lucas's hands and then said "nope" and then grabbed Nathan's thinking they were Lucas's I might feel differently but that didn't happen.

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Nathan arrives in the spring. Jack was born on Christmas Day. Also, I’m sure the Mounties would have heard about Elizabeth’s pregnancy.

I mean note that means that Elizabeth had a nine month pregnancy, and then the baby was a few months old by the time Nathan got there. There was an entire year for him to realize that Jack left behind a mother and son.

Oooooo good point!!! Omg 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Dana says- Good catch!

Maybe he learned she was pregnant?

@@RoyalMasterpiece I believe that Nathan probably kept an eye on her from afar and after she had baby Jack he asked for the transfer to HV to protect them both.

There was a baby Jack when he was transferred.

Are u talking about Elizabeth treating my girl Rosie badly?

@@hannahlerum9982 that..and everything left up in the air...no indication on which way she will decide...Lucas being supportive and understanding and patient..or nathan who again told her that he loves her...and right now I dont like what the writers have done to the character..this is not the same person in the previous 6 years of following the story line.the entire year has been really odd...I do like the fact that Henry may turn out to be a good guy...

@@rdowning60 yeah I know right

@@rdowning60 me too

She dont look to be happy at all with N,... cos all geniune emotions and smiles have been with Lucas.

@@midnightblue8957 she wouldn't be constantly trying to find something out from Nathan if her heart was with Lukas

Yep

@@midnightblue8957 True- all the lighting up, communication, happy scenes with Lucas. There are more long glances and sighs with Nathan- half the time I see more anxiety and trepidation on her face when interacting with Nathan. But they would like us to accept it as love! Sigh

@@midnightblue8957 Maybe, but if she is so miserable around Nathan then why is she always seeking him out. Nathan has not sought out Elizabeth not once since the first time he told her he loved her. She has used one excuse after another to approach him and it's always with a holier than thou attitude. The only time he has approached her since episode 2 was when she was sitting in the cold outside of the infirmary and he wrapped his blanket around her and she was actually nasty to him them. He should have taken his blanket and left. My point is Nathan has been giving her distance but she can't stay away from him. If she is truly happy with Lucas leave Nathan alone.

Jack used to say that all the times.

It's because Elizabeth said that to Lucas' mom, I believe in episode 3... "Love has to be fought for, it never gives up." Yep, Nathan and Elizabeth are meant to be!

Amen! He's not fighting for love. He feeding his guilty feeling. He doesn't love her. He thinks that he has a responsability with her and wants to force her to love him. When you love someone, you leave the person free to choose. He is not doing this. He creates awkard, unconfortable situations, since he arrived in town. He treats her with low judgement, always thinking that she's not capable, even Bill called his attention last season. What does he want? He wants to live Jack's life? Come on, get your own family.

@@thaisbarrosocorrea6948 PREAAACH!!! Enough said!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Elizabeth and Lucas aren't excally officially there not courting and its not inappropriate. For you to be persistent about who you love it would be inappropriate for Nathan to just give up. When he feels the way he does about Elizabeth.

@@zakarifreeman3245 Elizabeth is seeing Lucas... so yeah courting in other words. She said it last week... lol

@@varisol6675 No back in thoses days it was different clearly you had be clear on your status. There not courting yet lucas has never once asked her directly yet to court yet . In modern terms there basically just talking which isn't official realistically.

Yesss

I am rooting for Lucas and Elizabeth.

@@lnsolanki81 I am too but personally looks pointless after today's episode with Nathan echoing Elizabeth's 'love's worth fighting for ' theme . The conventional storyline would be to pursue this and end with an E & N pairing. Would be very surprised if they did the unconventional. I would love to be proved wrong but trying to spare my feelings too lol

I so feel for Lucas. He has been nothing but wonderful to her, and also considerate of Nathan who doesnt even deserve it with his attitude and acting entitled and so on. Lucas just keeps his pain inside.

@@gilbertanne88 You are right. Everything points towards Nathan. I look like Lucas is sensing that Elizabeth is not in love him. They are lots of scenes where he observes Nathan and Elizabeth.

Hell, he deserves his own Hallmark show! I would definitely watch Lucas in anything❤️

She never said no! If her answer was no she would have said so.

Well if you think dating publicly someone else (expecially at the time) is saying yes and NOs are only valid if said out loud then we have a problem. In the last episode she said OUT LOUD Lucas' name as the person she was supposed to be with, even if the hands weren't his! Which..doesn't mean anything because she will get with Nathan in the end and we all know it, but it's still happening in the WRONG WAY and NOTHING about this is romantic or in character or even decent

I completely agree

Because i think Nathan is a man not a wear, and i think he's a great man. Jack was Jack, Nathan is Nathan.Elisabeth said Jack was an excellent man not an excellent Mountie. More differeces between their characters and i like much more Nathan then Jack. Sorry but this's my feel.

Because lucas is sneaky I don't trust him he doesn't love elizabeth he wants to control her team nathan all the way

Sometime we take out our feelings on the ones closest to us. It's not intentional! Thier interaction was really not that bad her and Rosemary will be ok.. E is feeling so much right now. she feels betrayed by Nathan anyone can see that. She doesn't understand why he waited so long to tell her. It has stirred up so many emotions inside her pertaining to Jack. I would feel the same way, if someone I knew who supposedly loved me kept something like that it would stir up so many feelings, and I would need to process everything I felt. That is what she is going through.

I think that Lucas is better suited gorElizsbeth. Lucas has more class. He is a true gentleman.

@@mariekebe5209 me too

@@mariekebe5209 ummmmmm... so was Charles and we all know how that turned out... also Nathan's right she's never even given him a chance to see what an amazing guy he is. Also I've said it before but she never said she didnt love Nathan, she said she can't...and we all know she loves Nathan way more than Lucas. Also, she's trying to get rid of her feelings for Nathan by being with Lucas and its not working you can tell she's not content with Lucas. She knows she cant be with someone she doesn’t love but she's blinded by pain

I think it was duty and guilt at first but after he got to know Elizabeth he fell in love with her.

I wish Abigail could come back, but I think that's unlikely

Actually it would be very morbid and strange

Nope. Its stupid. I feel like thats such a awful way to go and also to do that... to Jack and his memory .,,,, to replace him with the man he replaced and died.

@@thaisbarrosocorrea6948 I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this ridiculous. Like, dude, get a life!! 🤨🙄

@@lnsolanki81 it just feels very creepy that he came to town, met JACK’S WIDOW and wants to be with her. that’s creepy and icky!! OMG, c’mon writers!?? 🤨🙄🙄🙄🙄

I totally agree the writing is stupid. I think with Lucas they’ll be some adventures. His actions are not noble it’s shady. So disappointed.

I’m hoping this is the case. After tonight’s episode I have my doubts however. I don’t understand why the writers would build up the romance between Elizabeth and Lucas and then now cast a doubt. I did like that when she picked Nathan during the party game, she called Lucas’s name.

This clip is from season 8

@@1370np I would have wagered anything that this is from an older season. But I don't want to end up looking ridiculous over something that doesn't matter!

@@curious420 maybe because they’ve had talks in the prison before :) i.e. about Nathan’s dad and Ally

This!!!

Nathan and her are both dull.