You have to admit, Haltmann really got screwed! --- Twitter: / meteorzyt Meteor'z Stream Land: / meteorzstreamland #KirbyLore #KirbyCanon
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@Meteorz4 жыл бұрын
Alright, first off, I forgot to give credit to VoidNathan for the theory about Susie wanting to access the database in the video, so there you go! Second, don't worry, the next two canon videos I upload are going to be brand new, not remasters. Then after that, one more remaster, and POSSIBLY another new one based on info I could assemble. Thanks for watching, and I hope you continue to enjoy this series!
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
That's super cool ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@morquechoolveraaitordego87604 жыл бұрын
I have a theory of Who are the ancients but i dont know were i can post it. (The stone ability helped me to discover it)
@justjames44 жыл бұрын
It's a great series!
@morquechoolveraaitordego87604 жыл бұрын
Well, now my theory is in the "new Chanel section video"
@davinamccrae8663 жыл бұрын
In the uk version the 2.0 susie description it say that “susie went missing when she was a child when a experiment with the Mother Computer wheat terribly wrong.She joined the company after all this time? Her full name is Susanna Patrya Haltmann “.
@kimi15224 жыл бұрын
Every Robobot Armor form is personalized
@bluekirby_644 жыл бұрын
"You want fun? Kirby show you fun!"
@tangerino31994 жыл бұрын
The Haltmann Apparition
@erlindaibarreta86114 жыл бұрын
No time for a creepy Super Mario 64 joke!
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
@@erlindaibarreta8611 Every Super Mario64 copy holds a creepy luigi
@jongyon7192p4 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 As a friend of the Decomp team, I can tell you they found unused code for a 2nd player throughout the game, blatantly obviously for Luigi. Well Kaze made it happen and more, so that's that imo.
@StoroCakes4 жыл бұрын
And I thought Taranza & Sectonia’s backstories are depressing...
@gamemasterpzm15974 жыл бұрын
That's Kirby for you! A game aimed for new comers for gaming with quite dark and depressing storys!
@dartole76114 жыл бұрын
Those 2 stories are my favorites Triple deluxe was my first game after super star ultra so it stuck with me
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
That's because it was.
@oracleproduction45113 жыл бұрын
@JF_Abridged is the capitalization an undertale reference
@infinitetaquito44843 жыл бұрын
@@oracleproduction4511 I don’t think so It’s probably so you know what’s actually going on
@vortex79264 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting how in Hyness' rant, he said "They tried to erase us from existence" which is exactly what star dream did to Haltmann.
@dreamer12924 жыл бұрын
maybe thats why the ancients built the nova and the dream rods, they were trying to erease the jamba cult after they defeated the galagtic crisis
@sectraaaaaa4 жыл бұрын
god I hate the ancients
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
Insane. I wanna learn more about the Ancients!
@cuckookirbyfan71924 жыл бұрын
In the original Japanese version, they actually DID erase his clan's existence from history, only leaving a sliver of it left.
@finnvaneekelen77404 жыл бұрын
Scott ! Dammmmmm
@JrMerei134 жыл бұрын
Kirby Lore is so amazing. I hate the fact some people think Kirby games are so childish and friendly. Just like how Nintendo introduced Triple Deluxe. But then we discovered the true story about Sectonia and Taranza. It was really sad but interesting- just like Susie and Haltman
@justjames44 жыл бұрын
HAL Laboratory Inc. creates the games and stories, Nintendo publishes them. What did you expect? Nintendo to be good enough to create the Kirby of the Stars series? Well they are kind alright with stuff like Pikmin and Xenoblade Chronicles, but still.
@idunno_4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, most people only buy the games because they're expecting a cute kid-friendly game, not because of the dark undertones in the series. It only makes sense to advertise them as such.
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
I still think that kirbygames are actually best enjoyed for their gameplay and cute nature. I once was actually really into the lore, but then I got more and more confirmation that what I built with the pieces that Hal gave us was completely false and I am overthinking everything because it is basically meaningless. Galacta knight is still supposed to exist somehow, yet he will never have any relevancy. Haltmanns soul is not deleted because the soulfights are noncanon and dedede never actually showed dark metaknight who's boss. And star allies is the most boring game ever because while it has a sad backstory, nothing interessting actually happens if we are to assume that only the mainstory is canon.
@C_Arson4 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 Eh, I think it's safe to assume that Heroes in Another Dimension is canon as well, since it's quite different to most extra modes, and it's a lot more original. Gameplay is still the most important thing, but I can still appreciate the lore because it gives more context to the universe and its characters. Kirby may not have fought Void Termina two more times, but that doesn't mean there's nothing interesting about Void in canon, since extra mode descriptions can still have relevancy to the main canon. With Star Allies in particular, nothing less interesting happens in its canon events than any other Kirby game.
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
@Muse Suse Tell that any visual novel, western storygame or xenoblade chronicles.
@erasmotamayo19374 жыл бұрын
FUN FACT: President Haltman's design originated from an unused Magalor Soul design.
@planetcheese4 жыл бұрын
If I'm correct, Star Dream's beta design was based off of 02; originally it was less cylindrical and had a more prominent eye, but the wings were still carried over to the design used in-game
@erasmotamayo19374 жыл бұрын
Planet Cheese YOU SIR, are correct
@Murr2484 жыл бұрын
Planet Cheese not only that. But even more concept art shows that he was going to resemble Zero, Dark Matter (True form) and even Dark Nebula
@heatran41092 жыл бұрын
This really surprises me, they really changed the design a lot
@rainbowarchivesseeaboutsec60064 жыл бұрын
One error in the video is that Dedede WASN'T captured by Susie. He wakes up at the end of the game, in the rubble of the Castle. Rather, Susie gathered the DNA via other means. Great Video, still. Just felt the need to point it out.
@ImmaLittlePip3 жыл бұрын
Via other means? How?
@rainbowarchivesseeaboutsec60063 жыл бұрын
@@ImmaLittlePip i dunno, maybe she snuck into the castle ruins, took a sample of the unconscious dedede's spit?
@lyy20992 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowarchivesseeaboutsec6006 how about just his fur..
@KDeds212 жыл бұрын
@@lyy2099 Feathers. He's a penguin.
@rainbowarchivesseeaboutsec60062 жыл бұрын
nah, spit is funnier
@accountoftheultraimaginato40124 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. My unscheduled dose of Kirby-induced depression. Also, we may see Susie again, but she likely won't be in an antagonistic role, unless Kirby really wants to poke his nonexistent nose into things that have no connection with him. Susie's not stupid. She knows how powerful Kirby truly is. I would be extremely shocked if she tried invading Popstar again.
@Kuu-n-koi23174 жыл бұрын
unless it's parallel susie,she won't
@DeltaBlazin2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I definitely believe the Japanese version much more in Star Allies. It would explain why Susie is even on Popstar again and wants to defeat those of Jambastion in the first place--they are going against the harmony she desires. Susie is smart, she has seen the capabilities of Kirby, and would not mess with him or his planet again, it all adds up.
@bluekirby_644 жыл бұрын
The reason this video took 40+ hours to premiere is because Star Dream accidentally uploaded it with Internet Explorer.
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
(underrated comments)
@MoonLight-mq6hd4 жыл бұрын
Or because Star Dream was trying to sabotage the video to not being exposed.
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
I thought internet explorer is dead.
@lofikirbstar6233 жыл бұрын
oops
@catalyst5392 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491, enter colress
@ProfessionalNamielleLewder694 жыл бұрын
Kirby lore is both depressing or terrifying; Families are torn apart, civilizations are brought to ruin and entire worlds are obliterated by otherworldly beings who either want to fulfill their own agenda or are just so eldritch and alien that they have none. And then there's VOID and Galacta Knight, who successfully turned this series into low-key cosmic horror.
@clone61412 жыл бұрын
Plus in the end of the true arena during Nova's heart being destroyed you can hear one last scream from haltmann but it's very slowed down and distorted which literally means this man's soul has been erased from existence
@matthewofcolumbus5610 Жыл бұрын
If there's an afterlife in Kirby's universe, Haltmann doesn't get to see it.
@oqo33104 жыл бұрын
Saddest character in kirby, truly amazing given the fact that on the outside it just looks like the cliche of the capitalistic asshole but when you dig deeper, it's just a poor guy who lost the one thing he cherished the most.
@nonamer66214 жыл бұрын
Tizo Epic gamer don’t forget that they only had to kill Sectonia cause HE gave Sectonia the mirror... maybe he doesn’t just miss her or feel sorry for her... maybe he also feels guilty cause none of it would’ve happened had he just not brought the mirror.
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
He does not have any hints towards him being the person who fucked up other than the change only happening after that event. Also, according to team kirby clash deluxe, he just has the ironic luck of always finding a mirror with dark mind inside of it.
@nonamer66214 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 oh i didn't know he actually never finds out that it was the mirror's fault... huh well thanks for correcting my mistake :p
@ashers19302 жыл бұрын
5:08 just a little correction, it actually does. However, because Susie was already alive, the machine could not complete the wish, turning the error generated from the machine into a attack.
@franzicoy2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the error was under the fault of either the Haltman Works engineers who worked on Star Dream or the programmers who programmed it. If it really was perfect, it would've tried to find a way to recreate memories if a wish was already granted but the wisher forgot all about it.
@Semudara2 жыл бұрын
5:08 He was saying that Star Dream needed to fuse with the Access Ark before it had enough power to grant a wish.
@BluglurTheSpaceGuy Жыл бұрын
Poor Haltmann....he just wanted to see susie again..
@henryfleischer4044 жыл бұрын
Interesting how star dream became a mindless machine after Haltmann's soul was destroyed. Souls seem to have a special significance in Kirby. Unless you kill an enemies' soul, it does not stay dead. Now one person's soul was used, for a short time, to give Star Dream sentience. Makes me wonder what else you can do by burning a soul.
@mstech-gamingandmore18274 жыл бұрын
"Haltman really got screwed"
@Thatphantomsaboteur3 жыл бұрын
Competition For LOST metal joke
@nataliasoto96813 жыл бұрын
HA, I get it, cause star dream has a “screw” loose and is a screw
@mstech-gamingandmore18273 жыл бұрын
@Competition For LOST Because it's a dumb joke (ok, maybe it is funny)
@ChristopherMoom4 жыл бұрын
You can really tell that Meteorz wants to emphasize how depressing Haltmann's story is, just listen to his tone of voice at 5:59
@bagelgod9464 жыл бұрын
Yeah it brings a lot more emotion into it...
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
You again!
@diamondjub23184 жыл бұрын
Siivagunner has pretty amazingly demonstrated that "The Noble Haltmann" goes with just about everything
@icefish93954 жыл бұрын
Me and 7 other people are just staring at a screen that has the thumbnail and says that we have to wait 39 hours till we get to watch the video.
@henriquegabrieltaurinobern87074 жыл бұрын
"Why did I react such a terrible machine? Oh, I remember. I wanted to see *her* once more. How foolishness! I should know that no machine could make that *dream* come true..."
@goldenfoxy57884 жыл бұрын
Maybe Magolor is behind the whole thing. He seems to have a GREAT knowledge of Ancient Technology, and he said himself that he modified the Lor Starcutter. Maybe he gave Haltmann the Nova and Star Dream, along with bringing back Susie.
@edgelord83374 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the *darkest* and *saddest* kirby stories ever. Like legit this one actually disturbing to me. The guy literally lost what he cares about the most because of his company. Sad story indeed.
@djroscurro98594 жыл бұрын
Not only that, as a result, you are *slowly killing him* through fighting Star Dream Soul OS.
@Potato-pc4tj4 жыл бұрын
Why do I see you everywhere
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
@@Potato-pc4tj #nolife
@healmore87164 жыл бұрын
Honestly the saddest thing in this video is you mentioning miiverse...
@bagelgod9464 жыл бұрын
RIP
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
Miiverse was bad, honestly. (I joke of course...)
@thekingofbboys33713 жыл бұрын
KIRBO THE PICKLEMASTER :D it was shut down, that why you can’t chat
@nightmarefuelfanita93434 жыл бұрын
Fnaf:I have a deep complicated heartbreaking lore Kirby:hold my maximum tomato
@nataliasoto96813 жыл бұрын
Nah kirb is darker
@take_a_coffee2 ай бұрын
@@nataliasoto9681 dude, that's the joke
@ShockInazuma2 жыл бұрын
This should sum up the robobot armour pretty well: “Its energy signature far exceeds that of the Invader Armor, our combat mech. The nearly infinite power within this life-form is astounding. Calculating probability of survival... It doesn't look good.” - Star Dream (Robobot Armour)
@ToxicPea4 жыл бұрын
This was highly comprehensive, although I doubt Susie would replicate the mistakes her father had. At worst, she may lead a socialist inter-planetary regime where she "exterminates the uncivilized," but at best, the friend hearts thrown at her by Kirby may change her for the better. Besides, Pres. Parallel Susie is not the same as our base-universe Susie.
@GoldWheels4 жыл бұрын
You watch Kirby Canon too??
@ToxicPea4 жыл бұрын
@@GoldWheels I am a Kirby fan. What did you expect?
@mr.potatoaim24604 жыл бұрын
My stars! This seems like a dream come true!
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
oi shut up! 💛💜💙 😁
@aagwill Жыл бұрын
i think dedee needs a bigger and stroner arsenal i mean he probably will have a way bigger castle with a lot more and bigger cannons
@C_Arson4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I knew that the guest star translation was different, but I didn't know that Susie said she wanted to (humbly) exterminate the uncivilized. That's pretty awesome actually, and it fits her character. Hopefully the translation team will improve next game, because they seemed to make more mistakes than usual with Star Allies.
@lpfan44913 жыл бұрын
Hi, magalor
@JanusHoW Жыл бұрын
I like to think that as an good-aligned eldritch being of sorts, Kirby has a way of sensing when people have a tragic backstory, and innately tries to comfort them and be their friend...the more tragic the fate, the more Kirby wants to befriend them. And I think it breaks his little heart when the only thing he can do is put them out of their misery. He successfully redeemed so many others: -King Dedede? Gradually reformed and became a hero in his own right. -Dark Matter? Part of it split off and became Gooey. -Void Termina? It's subtly implied that Kirby is a Void Termina born of positive energy and emotions, and the dark god understood what friendship was in its final moments. -Fecto Forgo? It became part of Elfilin. -Leongar? Redeemed. Twice. -Daroach? Wasn't bad, just corrupted by Dark Mind. -Claycia? Controlled by Dark Crafter. -Dyna Blade? Just wanted to take care of her babies. -Magalor? It took a while, but he became good. The only major ones Kirby probably had no thoughts of redeeming were Hyness, Necrodeus, Marx, Dark Meta Knight/Dark Mind, Drawcia, and Yin Yarn. But Sectonia and Haltmann, in his mind, might be his greatest failures.
@jstar33824 жыл бұрын
This comes out on my birthday! Thanks for the gift!
@Nebbuwu4 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday!
@bluekirby_644 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday!
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday ^•^ !
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday! 💛💜💙
@five-fold4 жыл бұрын
happy birthday!!!
@RTD_Dev4 жыл бұрын
Wait... *_Kirby_* has _Infinite Power?_ If he's *powerful* _enough_ to make a machine surpass it's original programming, then perhaps you should save a *_remaster_* of that *"What is Kirby Canon? - Kirby" Video* for the next *_BIG_* _Kirby Game_ that's coming.
@poijnve39124 жыл бұрын
well it's kind of canon that puyo is some short of elrich god born by positive energy xD, so of course he as INFINITE PAWA!
@rockhistoria25373 жыл бұрын
@@poijnve3912 so puyo Tetris is...
@fort25582 жыл бұрын
infinite 3d power not legit infinite
@sephserrano519410 ай бұрын
Kirby is legit god
@p-i-es-u-c-c4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I've been really hoping for some new videos, I hope everyone is doing well!
@esquid72153 жыл бұрын
I love how Kirby is a little cute pink ball ,but is also a killing machine One of my favorite video-game character
@gel0079 Жыл бұрын
It’s even more sad bc she originally just wanted her dad to remember again and yet she accidentally sent him to hell by stealing that helmet
@ianmurphy38404 жыл бұрын
From a previous remaster video, you have theorize that Susie did escape Another Dimension with Maglor. Could these event happen after Maglor's Boss fight as he was stuck between dimensions?
@bluekirby_644 жыл бұрын
Magolor was sent to a world "beyond time and space" outside of Another Dimension after his defeat. There's no way Susie could have met him and escaped with him unless she somehow travelled to that same world.
@Meteorz4 жыл бұрын
Would make sense, since Star Dream could summon Galacta Knight from space and time
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
I would assume she literally just found a way out or a gateway opened after magolor was beaten. But what do i know?
@sansudrskh24012 жыл бұрын
i know its late but maybe since magolor had expierence navigating Another Dimension he found his way through,since he knows the routing a bit and saved susie with his leftover powers
@kirby7714 жыл бұрын
Well, well, this is good news.
@m.s.e.advanced28424 жыл бұрын
They have some great pause screen descriptions
@someguycalledgoober1554 жыл бұрын
Goku: I have the ability to increase my power at will and fight planet busters. Superman: I can move so fast my fist has infinite mass, I also fight planet busters. Kirby: I make robots happy. :)
@Stavr0no2 жыл бұрын
alt for haltmann's screams in the heart of nova: *haltmann stepping on a lego*
@ofrifurman82744 жыл бұрын
imagine making a kid friendly game this post was made by HAL gang
@train42924 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of the saddest stories in Kirby history for me.
@lasercraft323 ай бұрын
*"It just works."* - Haltmann
@morquechoolveraaitordego87604 жыл бұрын
When i defeated Heart of Nova i was horrified but at the same time i was criying :c
@Murr2484 жыл бұрын
Star Dreams Concept artwork actually opens a lot of questions as well
@NicoDee05174 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited for where this series is going next. After all, we're still waiting for the "Pinnacle" of the Kirby series.
@lpfan44913 жыл бұрын
I am still taking planet robobot as being that.
@thenameyoushouldknowthekin89984 жыл бұрын
10:27 Unrelated: A thicc rat
@BillZypher4 жыл бұрын
So Storo.
@milkee84404 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a new lore video!
@Dayonder3 жыл бұрын
Even for the usual brand of messed up Kirby lore, this is pretty depressing
@GoldWheels4 жыл бұрын
I thought Dark Meta Knight came with Kirby and the crew because he was interested in the Jamba Hearts
@StuntershadeZ3 жыл бұрын
Basically every Kirby antagonist is just in the background and unnoticed until the next Kirby game.
@bedrocksteve42244 жыл бұрын
"New planets and new *peoples* " *nice*
@Sod1ePop4 жыл бұрын
Somewhere there's a discussion about which of the stories are sadder taranza's or haltmann's
@QueenSharotto4 жыл бұрын
New context!
@ryangonzalez81214 жыл бұрын
Were girls cry:titanic Were boys cry:last episode of anime Were MEN cry:robobot ending cutscene
@wattia99684 жыл бұрын
It's waiting time
@epicchillface2644 жыл бұрын
Keep up with the What is kirby Canon series its great!
@Dgero2 жыл бұрын
Seeing another Nova had me absolutely ecstatic, It was by far my personal highlights of the game
@nabbit664 жыл бұрын
I’m curious what new lore has been uncovered! No matter what I’m sure it will be interesting thougj
@comic-boi2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else notice when dream soul os is summoning the parts of nova that got shot off in super star the portal used to summon them is a heart shape
@meta94924 жыл бұрын
YES MORE KIRBY CANON
@basementchild260512 ай бұрын
man, we DEFINITELY need a Kirby planet robobot and triple deluxe remake. Hopefully that might help with the weird susie stuff
@redballoon90072 жыл бұрын
This is just wishful thinking but while the English version of Susie’s “About” page is ominous, the Japanese version is a bit more hopeful. Maybe Susie genuinely wants to spread peace through out the galaxy and the “uncivilized savages” are similar foes Kirby deals with hence why she came back to Popstar in “Kirby: Star Allies”. Plus after seeing what Kirby can do, Susie probably wouldn’t go after Popstar again. And knowing Kirby, he doesn’t really spring into action unless Popstar is being attacked somehow. Side note: Pres. Susie isn’t even our Susie but rather a more “colder” alternative Susie. So that’s not really incriminating our Susie but that does lay out a foundation of maybe canon!Susie and President!Susie having a rivalry (like Meta Knight and Galactica Knight or Meta Knight and Dark!Meta Knight.)
@aruce92 жыл бұрын
I feel we might get more lore in forgotten land. The little bits of lore found in forgotten lands demo. His company possibly was working alongside the beast corps to help create a world for the ancients
@Semudara2 жыл бұрын
Well, your guess was a little ways off.... but we sure did get some juicy lore. :D
@awsumsas4 жыл бұрын
I don’t care how badly the story is told. I don’t care if you can only fully experience it through pausing the game and through the dead social media that is Miiverse. Kirby: Planet Robobot has my favorite story in ALL of video gaming. PERIOD.
@jeonghunoh2083 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, this video was SO good, yet SO depressing. WHAT A ROLLERCOASTER!
@Forgotten_Fog4 жыл бұрын
Alexa this backstory is so sad, play despacito
@foofgam87003 жыл бұрын
lol says after susie witnessed kirby's power she had a plan based on it all along.
@carter7164 жыл бұрын
all the present tence stuff about Star dream and Haltmann would be past tense since you know...Kirby kinda blew them up
@hielum13374 жыл бұрын
*epic* Also for the people on the stream... *THE END V5*
@luknepo4 жыл бұрын
It's been two years since Star Allies! Think a new game will be announced soon?
@C_Arson4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the next main game will be announced until next year. If it's as great and ambitious as everyone wants it to be, then it's going to take significantly longer to make, and that's not even factoring this year's real-world issues impacting development.
@sparko96624 жыл бұрын
Well on twitter Hal has discussing about making the ultimate game for Kirby. If we get lucky they could announced new trailer in the rest of this year
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
Robobot is kinda the ultimate game. it took everything the series did in the past, did its own thing with it and then made a masterpiece of a contentpile with good storypacing and interessting ways to justify some of the rehashes it did do.
@Edgeperor4 жыл бұрын
LPFan it was good, but it was more an improvement on the Return to Dreamland formula than anything else
@lpfan44914 жыл бұрын
Well, a peakgame is still a peak. That it did not do much new stuff outside of having a 3d nova does not really matter for that. And considering Hal blew their chance of having a great transition to 3d on the mediocre thing that was blowout blast, I don't think I want them to do diffrent things for the sake of being diffrent.
@shamarnachos66024 жыл бұрын
Can’t get enough of these😁
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
*LETSA FUCKING GOOOOO* !!!
@MrSplashMan04 жыл бұрын
No swearing in this Christian comment section
@amysizemore21964 жыл бұрын
@@MrSplashMan0 no u.
@djroscurro98594 жыл бұрын
I'm getting Fawful's Minion vibes
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
Oh hey, Foulowe!
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
@@oimenamesrick hi ! ^•^ (To be honest, i don't remember seeing you before, but still ! Ok. yeah, i am a big no brainer, sorry...)
@ultimatekirb39794 жыл бұрын
This was AWESOME
@warpguy99284 жыл бұрын
Susie is kinda scary
@ARandomNope2 жыл бұрын
for Planet Robobot, does anyone else see this final boss as being similar to one of the last bosses in Star Fox 64?
@Mooffgamesgamer4 жыл бұрын
What if Haltmann is actually... *Tiff’s Dad gone evil*
@magolor27064 жыл бұрын
What if Haltmann is actually... *Haltmann*
@kateymclatey18914 жыл бұрын
NANI!?
@SyntaX77774 жыл бұрын
What if Haltmann is actually... Susie’s Mom PLOT TWIST!
@Foulowe594 жыл бұрын
These comments here, are gold...
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
What if Haltmann is actually... Dr. Robotnik's Halacandrian counterpart from Another Dimension?
@jerrytrout83432 жыл бұрын
I posted on miiverse on a theroy I have is that the big planet un the background during the first phase on star dream was Haltmann and Susie's home planet
@8bityoshii3 жыл бұрын
Bro this is making me cry... Poor Susie
@ungulatemanalpha3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty remarkable how on the nose Haltmann is as a metaphor for colonialism and capitalism.
@metakirby2 жыл бұрын
So Kirby is meant to be a kids game, and that’s what this lore is hard to find: Haltman experiment with a mother computer, his daughter goes missing, the computer slowly eats away at his memory, his daughter returns but he doesn’t even recognise her, he gets BETRAYED by his own daughter who accidentally turns him into star dream’s voice box, the computer decides it wants world domination as all computers do, haltman soul gets destroyed and Susie has no boss and no father. It’s like the taranza and sectonia incident, but the somehow made it worse!
@KycenPetersen3 жыл бұрын
If a space shuttle launches it's moving pretty fast, but getting out of the atmosphere can take a bit. Considering it's very far up
@JuJu-bq9uq4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOO! I was out shopping when this premiered...
@smbmario74744 жыл бұрын
In Star Dream Soul OS I don't necessarily believe that all of Haltmann was traced away since you still hear his screams and groans. Even when the heart shatters.
@oimenamesrick4 жыл бұрын
The shattering heart scream was Haltmann's soul screaming in agony as it fades out for eternity.
@AA-tz2bm4 жыл бұрын
Imagine what happened if there was no trace of Haltmanns soul left to be purged . Star dream would be unbeatable. In soul os he was nearly done purging everything and the remaining vanished between destroying pillars and the heart exploding. But then again he lost sentience near the end.
@BoltBlades123 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is relevant, but in Star Allies news, it was stated that Kirby had a tough time taking down Susie’s mech.
@justoneherofortheworld6672 жыл бұрын
Shiver star the result of necrodeus destroying the light and haltman saying, FREE REAL ESTATE and making factories.
@polhudo4 жыл бұрын
excellent video, thankss
@FoxGalahArtStuff3 ай бұрын
Also don't forget that when Star Dream is in Phase 3, it attacks by counting down. Galactic Nova also counts down whenever it grants someone a wish. Since this is another Nova, that means that Star Dream might be trying to grant a wish. But whenever it finishes the count, it has a Fatal Error rather than granting a wish. Then, the whole thing loops. Haltmann wished for Susie to come back, even when she was back. The Fatal Errors, countdowns and Haltmann's wishes all but seem to confirm that *Star Dream is trying to wish for Susie to come back but it keeps failing because she's already back!*
@MrSplashMan04 жыл бұрын
YES
@ethancostellostudent16983 жыл бұрын
Oh shit I just realized that the reason that robot guy who was a boss in Superstar ultra is in this game is bc Haltman took over Halcondra and that's y it's so mechanized. So that robot is Haltmans!!!
@spidey51083 жыл бұрын
If anything, Haltmann could be an evolved human from Shiver Star, borrowing its technology along with Halcandra's to make his company. That's my guess: Haltmann as one of the people of science that influenced Egg Engines in return for their inspiration on him, warring with Hyness' Ancients. He could've been the one to mechanize Rock Star or find Pix there to build his Holo Defense API off of. Plus, the similar diamond in Sand Canyon could be, idk, a scout vessel to survey Popstar before the M.O.P. Yes, prosperity is the key mission, but Susie emphasizes the fortune of resources Popstar has that Haltmann can take. The Robobot Armour adapting to users seems very close to other Ancient artifacts making the most of _their_ wielders' powers. Case in point: The Star Rod's transformation into the Star Rod Hammer Dedede Custom. If Star Dream can fuse Haltmann's self into it, the Robobot Armour can most definitely be touched by Kirby's bravery. Speaking of, Haltmann loses his body in Phase 1. By Phase 2, his mind goes bye-bye. Phase 3/4 has what's left of Haltmann preventing the NOVA from either granting its own wish to kill all organic life, or a previous wish made by one of its ex-summoners. In fact, Haltmann's altered scream when NOVA awakens may hint that Star Dream is channeling Haltmann into the reception systems Kirby is shooting at, using Haltmann as a meat shield even before the True Arena. Soul OS Phase 1 completely overrides Haltmann, but his mere presence in the machine still subconsciously limits its power by 00.01%. In Phase 2, Haltmann's memories finally reunite to boost his soul, Star Dream unable to stop such due to treating wounds from Galacta that Kirby's assault reopened fresh. This time, Haltmann plans to stop Star Dream's wish in _Soul OS's_ NOVA phase. During Phase 3, Star Dream once again diverts all of Haltmann, this time into the Nucleus as Haltmann struggles to stay away from there. Being shot at doesn't help him keep his grip, though, and the diversion is successful. Phase 4 has Haltmann's soul being deleted by you, Star Dream locking it into place for a final try at killing him and breaking free, obtaining the 00.01%. Instead of that in Phase 5, when Star Dream has succeeded in killing Haltmann, it loses its own sanity given how closely he merged with him. Haltmann is claimed to be entirely destroyed for good, but Star Dream's death cry signifies that the Heart of what made Max Max had been learned and replicated by the once heartless machine, much like the Master Crown drawing on Magolor's ego, or the Robobot Armour drawing on Kirby's courage. Much like the former example, it can be said that when the Wishgranter died, then so did too the Wishgiver.
@Legoluigi264 жыл бұрын
The bit about Star Dream/ the Robobot Armor being good or evil based on the emotions of their master really reminded me of Void.
@justjames44 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I liked this game's story.
@GoldWheels4 жыл бұрын
I like the story, but like Meteorz, I don't like how they explained it
@Edgeperor4 жыл бұрын
GoldWheels yeah, I like the idea of optional lore, but they did too much via Miiverse
@GoldWheels4 жыл бұрын
@@Edgeperor I still don't understand why they didn't put all of that information in the game instead? They did it with the other past games, so what made them change their mind? I guess we'll never know
@DahHourglass3 жыл бұрын
8:37, star dreams oh crap face is hilarious
@dimitrimoisiades72924 жыл бұрын
A part of me hopes that all dream friends are canon because I really hope that Susie won't share her father's fate
@Pancake_man1022 жыл бұрын
The ship that haltmann looks similar to the one in the anime that nightmare uses to destroy kirby
@nmultraguardianofthemultiv15174 жыл бұрын
susie could have escaped by running into one of the landia Dragons and magalor being defeated must-have caused it