Eurobike 2024 Hall 9: what GCN don't show you! A real bike show experience (Day 1)

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Hambini

Hambini

Күн бұрын

This is day 1 of Eurobike with tech and gear that you can actually buy, from the brands that make it. A lot of the brands won't be widely known but this is how the bike industry really is.
Most of hall 9 is closed off for public viewing. Only trade and press/media are allowed in it. A lot of the western brands make deals with far eastern manufacturers.
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@Hambini
@Hambini 18 күн бұрын
Edit: Hot off the press. I just saw a load of guys from Classified come out a meeting with Wheeltop ( who make the electronic shifting)
@germurphy4986
@germurphy4986 18 күн бұрын
Wheeltop having a mare with their android app, and have priced themselves out of the market, especially with MTB
@Hambini
@Hambini 18 күн бұрын
@@germurphy4986 I think they are going to have a cut.
@Nephye
@Nephye 18 күн бұрын
they want to do the same thing than with trp ?
@ThePbiel
@ThePbiel 18 күн бұрын
Aren't Classified and TRP in bed with each other? Or is Wheeltop also somehow involved in their new groupset?
@mtanski1
@mtanski1 18 күн бұрын
I like the previous version with removable batteries. But patents are the reason we can't have nice things. Can't believe you can patent removal batteries.
@daniels.2720
@daniels.2720 18 күн бұрын
Surprise to me that Hambini wasn't met at the door with some disgruntled bike manufacturers' Restraining Order.
@storegga
@storegga 18 күн бұрын
nice to know you shit yourself too when someone shouts "HELLO HAMBINI FANS" from no where. cheers for the vid. hugely insightful for someone who's never been or seen these.
@theillegalimmigrant9314
@theillegalimmigrant9314 18 күн бұрын
You know when you have made it when a large company won't let you test ride their cranks. It says a lot from Shimano.
@borano2031
@borano2031 18 күн бұрын
"A lot" means a stiff upper lip, not?? Rgr
@TraceVelo
@TraceVelo 16 күн бұрын
Aww dude I'm super jealous! I would have loved to mooch around some of those stands, maybe next year! Great coverage tho, that 3D printed carbon frames was WILD, and glad you bumped into the Qvist geeza, can't wait to see how that pans out...
@Hambini
@Hambini 16 күн бұрын
I think you would have really enjoyed it last year. It was a lot smaller this year. Much less tat
@ssmtb
@ssmtb 18 күн бұрын
Should have put on a hat and fake moustache to get a ride on one of those rental Shimano bikes
@rg807
@rg807 17 күн бұрын
Just because you're in public doesn't mean you should lower the volume of "HELLO HAMBINI FANS!!!"
@Rainaman-
@Rainaman- 17 күн бұрын
I didn't know they let in kids unsupervised! Thanks for your service Hambini!
@basa1549
@basa1549 18 күн бұрын
Oh man..😂 they must love to see you coming to their stands! Keep up the good work!
@max_coast
@max_coast 18 күн бұрын
whoa... those AVIIAV rims are flash!!! (weird ass company name, had to look that up) Props to them for acknowledging their prior reaming and giving ol' Hambini the time of day. That goes a long way in my book.
@Reanimator999
@Reanimator999 18 күн бұрын
There is another Korean bike frame manufacturer brand with weird name too. Wiawis bike. 😅 As Korean American living in the US, sometimes I cringe at their naming sense.
@Reanimator999
@Reanimator999 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for showcasing Korean manufacturers. I think too many Korean people buy $10k road bikes from well known western brands as entry level road bike. Ergonomic handlebar from Wheellab looks very interesting.
@benfinesilver2250
@benfinesilver2250 18 күн бұрын
If they only come in tortoiseshell, only the blind will buy those
@CodSlap
@CodSlap 18 күн бұрын
Uuh! Thanks for covering this stuff - love to see it! ❤ This is always the most interesting stuff.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 18 күн бұрын
Those korean wheels looked incredible. 200g extra for looking that good is a no brainer. great work from whoever did them.
@basedgodstrugglin
@basedgodstrugglin 18 күн бұрын
I’d be terrified to ride them, they’re absolute art
@thesoultwins72
@thesoultwins72 18 күн бұрын
@AndrewTSq.......look terrible to me - but hey, if you are into 'bling', knock yourself out! [by the way - read my comment about 'hidden nipples' - an absolute recipe for disaster!]
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 18 күн бұрын
@@thesoultwins72 for some reason, it feels like you work for another bike wheel company.
@johnmakin-shaw3516
@johnmakin-shaw3516 16 күн бұрын
Absolutely love them! I need a pair of those in my life. I can lose 200g to compensate.
@kellrockets101
@kellrockets101 16 күн бұрын
I looked them up cause they looked great. Dang...they're crazy expensive.
@jamble7k
@jamble7k 18 күн бұрын
the aliexpress aisle is the most interesting one
@ColineRusselle
@ColineRusselle 18 күн бұрын
Wrists are angled at about 19° but few manufacturers seem to understand that! good to see somebody who knows...
@micgalovic
@micgalovic 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for showing us the show, like you see your hairdresser: nude and at her best and her worst. Never change Mr Hambini.
@zzod79
@zzod79 17 күн бұрын
I loved to see you in the background of the GCN Italy video from today 😂 (at min 5)
@treyquattro
@treyquattro 17 күн бұрын
OMG those bling Aldo wheels! I never knew I needed disco wheels...
@djsonfire0001
@djsonfire0001 17 күн бұрын
Great coverage on some sweet gear!
@kcchiok
@kcchiok 17 күн бұрын
it is awesome to have a user level reviewer into new players in cycling industry, thank you Hambini! great content!
@Arfonfree
@Arfonfree 16 күн бұрын
Loved the view of things I don't normally get to see. Thanks.
@felixjackson2670
@felixjackson2670 18 күн бұрын
Love it. Been a huge fan of Ali Express…Carbon manufacturers etc producing decent alternatives to mainstream brands for past 12 years now. Especially after the biggest wealth transfer in history since 2020 ,has seen prices rise ,as Global Corporations make record profits…
@EnduroriderPl
@EnduroriderPl 18 күн бұрын
Thanks Hambini, bring some more and please show some MTB stuff 😊
@chriswright9096
@chriswright9096 18 күн бұрын
I have Kin Lin wheels on an early 90s Concorde road bike hanging behind me. I believe they were the stock wheels. They are doing great.
@topulama3424
@topulama3424 17 күн бұрын
need more of such coverage....
@boriss.861
@boriss.861 17 күн бұрын
Satchin a Proper walk around, Cheers!!
@harryadams4070
@harryadams4070 18 күн бұрын
I have built wheelsets with KinLin rims over the years. Their rims are widely available through UK outlets such as The Cycle Clinic and Spa Cycles. As Hambini says, they are often rebranded.
@gLunchbox0346
@gLunchbox0346 17 күн бұрын
They're an OE outfit from southern Taiwan with a long history in the business
@lazlo2511
@lazlo2511 18 күн бұрын
Top tour…. Keep at it Sir
@cyc1994622
@cyc1994622 18 күн бұрын
the hi-light titanium frame is crazy
@zebounce
@zebounce 18 күн бұрын
you always seem like such a fun guy when actually interaction with other humans
@PierpaoloBagnasco
@PierpaoloBagnasco 18 күн бұрын
Please post more of these videos!
@nickhutchinson9068
@nickhutchinson9068 18 күн бұрын
Yes Hambini! Finally ❤
@abedfo88
@abedfo88 18 күн бұрын
1:05 Powerway, always had a soft spot for them. I had the PHR 36 hub you're looking at on a pair of Superteam rim brake wheels back in like 2016
@benfinesilver2250
@benfinesilver2250 18 күн бұрын
That was the most reserved “Hello Hambini Fans!” I’ve ever heard you say. Come on man, you’ve got to say it louder to piss people off 😂
@waichwaichpl
@waichwaichpl 14 күн бұрын
Magicshine is making great lights 👌 highly recommended 👍
@karstenmeinders4844
@karstenmeinders4844 17 күн бұрын
The Aldo wheelset looks very bling! Also the other Korean stuff is quite intriguing
@SandSanta
@SandSanta 17 күн бұрын
Does Shimano really hold a grudge? They seem to be down on Shane Miller as well. Its 2024, these guys need to get a modern brand manager.
@user-sx6dr1cw8y
@user-sx6dr1cw8y 18 күн бұрын
5:50 the mtb frame in the background looks nice and classic
@kaseycarpenter73
@kaseycarpenter73 18 күн бұрын
Never knew I needed mother-of-pearl rims
@moobaz8675
@moobaz8675 17 күн бұрын
There's massive change in the bike market. Gone are the days of the large mainstream brands and their dominance.
@michaelbauer8778
@michaelbauer8778 16 күн бұрын
Why?
@michaelbauer8778
@michaelbauer8778 18 күн бұрын
One need to be fair and say that QA & QC is the problem with manufacturers siting in Halle 9, not the production itself.
@michaelbauer8778
@michaelbauer8778 18 күн бұрын
What’s the value behind buying carbon wheels for 300 and hoping it’s one of the good or it’s one of the bad ones? We shouldn’t play lottery with our body
@firesurfer
@firesurfer 18 күн бұрын
Is that bafang frame specific or is it bosch compatible? 9:51 I wish you could have given a decent look at the fender/box carrier.
@SprayIgniteBoom
@SprayIgniteBoom 18 күн бұрын
Thanks!!!
@fixitfallows
@fixitfallows 15 күн бұрын
I've been riding those Powerway carbon hubs for the last 8 years. They have been absolutely great.
@challacustica9049
@challacustica9049 18 күн бұрын
Good on you for showing these.
@yohansharp3040
@yohansharp3040 17 күн бұрын
Nice, didn't know you were going
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 18 күн бұрын
Luke at Trace Velo is awesome, that Aliexpress stuff can be more than reasonable. As for Kin Lin? They've been going for decades, Taiwan's answer to Araya perhaps (who were ubiquitous on lots of bikes in the 1980 and early 1990s)
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 18 күн бұрын
Finally some cool stuff. Was kinda dissapointed by the mainstream coverage. 🙂
@thesoultwins72
@thesoultwins72 18 күн бұрын
@2.30..........'hidden nipples' are a really bad idea IMHO. Erosion is pretty much inevitable due to the egress of water inside the rims [ie: rain, washing bike etc]. I experienced this with a set of Reynolds wheels - pretty much every time I went for a ride a spoke would break. Have steered well clear of internally fixed nipples ever since.
@bosrey7807
@bosrey7807 18 күн бұрын
Free the nipple...
@ATICrossX
@ATICrossX 16 күн бұрын
Exactly, not everything should be made to look "better"
@olo398
@olo398 18 күн бұрын
cool stuff
@GordonChaffin
@GordonChaffin 18 күн бұрын
I just love the idea of random conference attendees wondering why that man was screaming into a camera.
@Ropetable
@Ropetable 17 күн бұрын
Did you check out the lightbicycle stand? i hear they have new polymer fiber spokes
@aeonsnarfus
@aeonsnarfus 18 күн бұрын
Machined titanium hubs! ❤
@WHTFSayonara
@WHTFSayonara 18 күн бұрын
Bafang is said to finally release m560 750w publicly at Eurobike. Please go take a look and ask how they have (if they have) solved the noise problem! Also I'm literally been building my LightCarbon LCE971 this week! Should have shown more of the booth so I could have seen if anything new out! Let me know if you see or know of Koozer Xm490 Pro hub! I have bought them to test!
@raphaelklijn6358
@raphaelklijn6358 18 күн бұрын
Very interesting.
@patrickarchibald6787
@patrickarchibald6787 9 күн бұрын
I bought the Magicshine Seemee 300 tail light, incredibly bright! Very high quality product.
@cosinus_square
@cosinus_square 17 күн бұрын
1st company to make a rear derailleur which pairs to both Shimano and Sram will make so much money. By the way things are going, it's only a matter of time.
@nigelliam153
@nigelliam153 18 күн бұрын
Can you do something on the 3d printed frame please. How do they get the strength without the matting?
@8o8ertmtb
@8o8ertmtb 13 күн бұрын
I'd love to know what he thinks of Atherton frames.
@sloops4398
@sloops4398 17 күн бұрын
What was the printing time for the frame and how long does it normaly take to make this frame?
@Handletaken4
@Handletaken4 16 күн бұрын
Are there bikes there which fit properly and don't go 12" to the side with each pedal stroke and crash on perfectly smooth roads?
@stevenfenech2320
@stevenfenech2320 13 күн бұрын
What are you trying to say,is it about geometry? Im interested in such nuances.
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 18 күн бұрын
1:20 That 88 g. carbon front hub looks light! I wonder what's the price? For half a year I searched hub to repair my old wheel and found old-stock new Bitex RSPF, 16-spoke, full aluminium, scale showed 96 g.
@borano2031
@borano2031 18 күн бұрын
Powerway are good to deal with.. Rgr
@philadams9254
@philadams9254 18 күн бұрын
Kinlin rims are insanely good. My alloy clinchers are 1100g!!! Did you see Waltly at all? I heard they were there this year.
@joonkt3483
@joonkt3483 18 күн бұрын
What you said is very true. I've 2 different types custom built with power way hubs and pillar spokes (dbl and also triple butted). Really light, strong, smooth riding and stays true
@strobelightnetwork4541
@strobelightnetwork4541 16 күн бұрын
Alloy clinchers for 1100g? I don't believe you, my 2005 Zipp 202 tubulars are 1050g.
@joonkt3483
@joonkt3483 16 күн бұрын
@@strobelightnetwork4541 I've a pair (clincher) at 1370 grams (excluding skewers) custom built with power way hubs and triple butted spokes. They are strong
@philadams9254
@philadams9254 16 күн бұрын
@@strobelightnetwork4541 It's legit! Kinlin XR200 rims - 380g! The braking surface is good but tends to wear down fast in the wet UK winters though.
@raulmarquez5485
@raulmarquez5485 18 күн бұрын
Wow… mother of pearl on the Korean rims; very extravagant! Were you followed by any men in black? 😂
@Hambini
@Hambini 18 күн бұрын
I've been trying to find them.
@borano2031
@borano2031 18 күн бұрын
@@Hambini They probably lost their way. Hired by Shimano, I´d guess..... Rgr
@seandelacruz4872
@seandelacruz4872 18 күн бұрын
Hello Hambini what are your thoughts on the exar budget db50 base series wheels
@amfinc2
@amfinc2 18 күн бұрын
The Powerway hubs are old, I've had those on my rim brake bike for about 3 years. They are good hubs though.
@DS-xg9kf
@DS-xg9kf 18 күн бұрын
Superb
@event4216
@event4216 18 күн бұрын
I've just returned from ALDI and they swore no wheels are available
@selder03
@selder03 18 күн бұрын
Those Light Carbon frames look nice. Also, those 3D-printed Ti frames toward the end. Who was the manufacturer?
@borano2031
@borano2031 18 күн бұрын
Look closer at the end at the clip of these frames... Rgr
@lovemesomedetail
@lovemesomedetail 18 күн бұрын
3:30 who else supplies h-works or whatever that was called?
@benene055
@benene055 17 күн бұрын
Hambini danke für deine Videos! Ich habe vor einigen Jahren einfach mal angefangen, ein Rennrad selbst zu bauen auf Basis eines 80er Jahre Rahmens und im Laufe der Zeit, in der ich mir alles selbst beigebracht habe, bin ich auf deine Videos gestoßen. Immer toll informativ! Dank dir habe ich wirklich viel gelernt.
@sloops4398
@sloops4398 17 күн бұрын
Da sieht man vor allem das die wirklich interessanten Stände für einen Endverbraucher gar nicht zugänglich sind was die Eurobike noch unattraktiver macht als sie eh schon ist.
@michaelbauer8778
@michaelbauer8778 16 күн бұрын
@@sloops4398warum soll Halle 9 nicht zugänglich sein? Sie ist direkt neben dem Straßenhaupteingang 🤣 Naja, für dich ist die Erde wohl auch ne Scheibe.
@AlexRochette
@AlexRochette 18 күн бұрын
What watch are you wearing?
@strobelightnetwork4541
@strobelightnetwork4541 16 күн бұрын
GCN is for Cat5 cyclists and for those who drink Specialized cool aid, thank you for the feature boss man.
@batesady
@batesady 18 күн бұрын
Wonder how balanced those bling korean wheels are with those random looking custom mother of pearl inlays?
@pierrex3226
@pierrex3226 18 күн бұрын
Is L-TWOO there? I'm told they were on the list, then disappeared a few days before the show. They won't honour the warranty on er9 groups I bought from them. I installed 5, 3 broke, 1 is barely working. They replaced only 2. They ghost, they move the goal post, really terrible experience.
@mrwhiteshorts
@mrwhiteshorts 16 күн бұрын
Mr Hambini, I have a round tube road bike that i try to go fast on. Which is fastest from a drag pov? no bottles, 2 aero bottles or 2 massive bottles to try to fill up the frame space? cheers. m
@michaelbauer8778
@michaelbauer8778 16 күн бұрын
Training
@RK-kn1ud
@RK-kn1ud 18 күн бұрын
You should carry a kitchen scale in with you next time.
@shawndaiki
@shawndaiki 18 күн бұрын
Would you have any concerns about riding a 3D printed carbon frame as compared to traditionally made ones?
@DJKevin92600
@DJKevin92600 16 күн бұрын
Powerway were (are ?) supplying ICAN wheels. I don't recommand their entry low budget R13 hub, although they are light, they are not stiff enough (I've replaced the back hub with a Hope Pro 4). Maybe R36 carbon are better... ?
@peterkulczycki6244
@peterkulczycki6244 18 күн бұрын
Rolling piece of art eh?! Marketing overload.
@Dfgoodall
@Dfgoodall 15 күн бұрын
Hworks. Can you enlighten me as to who they supply? DT Swiss by any chance. I’m sure they also supply the FarSports RD hubs?
@richardbartolo8754
@richardbartolo8754 17 күн бұрын
Lmao... The first hubs you look at are what are on my bikes. A buddy of mine hand builds wheels using those hubs. I have multiple sets of wheels with +10000kms of use with absolutely no issues.
@CycleXplorer
@CycleXplorer 16 күн бұрын
Their fear when you approach the stands 😂
@benfinesilver2250
@benfinesilver2250 17 күн бұрын
What do you think about XDS providing bikes for Astana Hambini? They are already supplying the Chinese National Team and Henan where I live. The boss of cycling here and Shane Sutton (coach) told me they were at the meeting in Shenzhen to get it approved. Starts at the end of the year for Astana after the Willier contract is up. 10 year partnership. You really need to get your hands on an XDS and ream like there’s no tomorrow!!!!
@nickturner4150
@nickturner4150 12 күн бұрын
I want a full carbon hardtail MTB frame with a titanium bottom bracket shell in the molding, so I can stick a mid drive motor on it without it getting chewed up. Did you see anything like that?
@sloops4398
@sloops4398 17 күн бұрын
So the area which is really interesting is not allowd for public. I am really lucky that i haven't visited this event since a long time. Even back when it was in Friedrichshafen there have been more E-Bikes then real bikes so more like IAA to me.
@michaelbauer8778
@michaelbauer8778 16 күн бұрын
It is accessible for public.
@shepshape2585
@shepshape2585 18 күн бұрын
You're right, GCN will never show any of this stuff, which is why it's important that you and others do. Cycling needs to be something that's available to more people, not just elitist douchenozzles with $10,000 burning a hole in their pockets. Thanks for the video.
@sloops4398
@sloops4398 17 күн бұрын
I guess the big brands payed extra that public is not allowed to visit this area otherwise the customers would see what pricewise is really possible
@PBabel-ne3hc
@PBabel-ne3hc 16 күн бұрын
Well, self-deserved, if you follow Specialized & co.
@michaelbauer8778
@michaelbauer8778 15 күн бұрын
@@sloops4398Bro. Why creating fake news. Hall 9 including 9.0,9.1,9.2&9.3 are all visible, public visible and are directly adjacent from the main entrance 🤣
@DanTuber
@DanTuber 18 күн бұрын
6:05 what material is the 3D frame made from?
@Hambini
@Hambini 18 күн бұрын
They were quite cagey over it and simply described it as carbon. I think it's a carbon mix with something.
@DanTuber
@DanTuber 18 күн бұрын
@@Hambini Can carbon be a liquid?
@amduser86
@amduser86 18 күн бұрын
at work we use nylon filments that a reinforced with carbon fibres. since you only heat it up to about 90°C, the short carbon fibres keep theire structure and reinforce the printed structure. it is not as stabil as pure carbon fibre products, but way more flexible. those frames look similar to the stuff we produce for rushed prototypes ...
@TheBizi123
@TheBizi123 7 күн бұрын
hii, it would be nice if you would get your hands on lightcarbon bike frame and make a review on it... seem like a interesting brand
@_Zane__
@_Zane__ 17 күн бұрын
At least with the electronic shifting its probably easy to remap the shifting buttons 😅
@danielesavi1969
@danielesavi1969 12 күн бұрын
We await the reaming of the new Rondo Ruut by our trusted five-year engineer!
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 12 күн бұрын
Throughout the video I kept thinking “what is the warranty on this?” - lots of new manufacturers that make anything and everything but leave customers hanging once there is any issue with the things they make.
@Handletaken4
@Handletaken4 16 күн бұрын
I'd love to see a hub with a catalog of replacement parts so when it blows up the bike shop can fix it.
@meinAliasfuer2024
@meinAliasfuer2024 16 күн бұрын
I am riding 12-15k - never had „blown up hubs“ so far 🤣 also cheap DTs do not „blow up“ … do not buy crap!
@iann23
@iann23 17 күн бұрын
Ray's business card is beautiful
@davidcharnes3623
@davidcharnes3623 14 күн бұрын
“At least I didn’t break my leg on one of their cranks.”
@TrickyTree84
@TrickyTree84 17 күн бұрын
Did you say flash or gash?
@isaacrosenberg3795
@isaacrosenberg3795 18 күн бұрын
Did sturmey archer has anything new, interesting? You mentioned them but didn't show anything.
@FuchsHorst
@FuchsHorst 18 күн бұрын
they. belong to SunRace and just do their legacy parts for Brompton and low/entry bikes. Nothing new for ages.
@isaacrosenberg3795
@isaacrosenberg3795 18 күн бұрын
@@FuchsHorst sad to hear it. Trying to find for cheap their 2 speed kick back planetary hub, just a dream for minimalist look as I think. Wish anyone redesign it to be lighter and brake to be more pleasant to use (have to work as a courier in a new country, testing a lot of old stuff on the streets)
@petef15
@petef15 17 күн бұрын
Hambini hello - Hambini video Hambini hello followed by pumping beats - peaktourque video
@johnnyboy4711
@johnnyboy4711 17 күн бұрын
Ltwoo TT and magene electronic groups?
@gokaygs
@gokaygs 18 күн бұрын
Did you change your hairdresser?
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 18 күн бұрын
2:20 Oh these are beauties!
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