Should have been a black flag, purposely wrecking a competitor. This isn't NASCAR.

I don’t agree verstapen should have realised Lewis was alongside and up the inside at that and should have backed out

@@joshuagillard4931 bruh, it was Max's line all along, he was literally a car's length ahead.

completely agree with everything you said. the penalty should have been a 10sec stopngo tho

Absolutely agreed. Max gave room, Lewis took too much advantage of that room. And since Lewis has lately been frustrated and desperate to get close to Max, he let it go deep into the corner. Toto was suspiciously quick with notifying the stewards. Merc really embodied a spiteful, jealous child this weekend.

excuses, excuses, excuses...

@@ramosel I'm not excusing him at all.

I agree to that Joe.....if not Max Charles should've took that win coz he did so well amidst that Struggle from the engine

But he also mentioned the most important thing. Being on the inside means you need to be more conservative. Lewis wasn't, he just sent it down the inside of Max, again as he pointed out, missing the apex by some margin in doing so. I totally agree that it was Lewis' fault.

@@therealnemesis1627 100% agreed. Lewis really wanted to take all the risk even when he knew the consequences. But the FIA just gives a 10sec penalty...I mean common ffs if this was 90s car he would've been dead

Will Buxton is a journalist, this dude's a racing driver. He's infinite levels ahead of Buxton in terms on knowledge.

@@Alkem1st buxton and that other newbie hack bareto

Barretto is an absolute clown saying max is at fault. The consensus among racing drivers and commentators is either racing incident or lewis' fault, then this guy comes in with an absolute shit take. He's so clueless.

Why? because this video confirms your bias?

Buxton and Barreto work for F1, which "supports" Lewis as a british driver(with "supports" I mean that they're so biased towards him that it's ridiculous to listen to them). It was surely ridiculous, I'm not listening to Barreto ever again, such a braindead take even for a biased viewer.

That wouldve been tragic indeed

Was crazy how the car caught it and wedges it into the tyres

That would have been a carnage...

The tyre's are tied to the car for those exact reasons.

@@2strokeysmokey89 the wheels are but not the tires. The tire came off the wheel completely and could have gone into the crowd. I’m curious if the FIA will come up with something to prevent that in such a scenario

Yea we want full races but at the this point in the championship max till this point put lewis in a position that kinda says do or die. Lewis was never going to make that corner, and lewis basically said if this is how you want to play this game then yeet ill send you into the wall. at first I thought it was 50/50 and didn't understand why LH was getting so much blame but now I understand thank to this video but from monza it was 50/50 no one expects for max to fly so max and lewis take that risk. But then max did go to far later on in the season purely due stewards who deemed this racing okie. This lead lewis also doing the same in the last race and was let free personally i think they agreed to LH keept the advantage because it was paying him for all the bad calls. But lewis was pushed all the way max was never going to give respect to LH vice versa. As a Lh fan i feel like in order for lewis to win this chip he couln;t be making stupid mistakes like that

"finally an analysis I agree with" I advise not starting a comment like that cause it makes u sound as if u only listen to people that agree with u and just ignore people who don't

@@hakmedolarinde8183 it really doesn't, that just you

@@tosehoed123 or could it be that it's just u not taking it that way

Should've black flag

@@mohamedsaeid5255 Agreed. Or at least a stop-go penalty.

@@mohamedsaeid5255 no he shouldnt you salty hater lol

@MAAHAQQ The rule states that the following driver has to be "substantially alongside"....which he wasn't...which means he has to back out. Case closed. If he was substantially along (ie: halfway)....he wouldn't have clipped him front wheel to rear wheel. Even a novice knows this, basic racing.

@MAAHAQQ did you watch the video above?

Albon knows everything about it :)

Name a more iconic duo. I'll wait.

Yeah this makes thrice

@@strudl32456 prost senna

Schumacher v Hill

He just drove by looked left an thought 'just an inch-ident on the race'

The former, something that Max should have done given the championship situation

He had to run for his life.

Leclerc wanted to minimize the risk of losing big points.

“Honestly, yes, I saw a bit the remake of the first lap, that I was the first viewer behind those two,” Leclerc, who had to settle for second, told Sky Italia.

Its Hypocrites ........

@@basil4020 you still understood what he ment

@@basil4020 and i think what you did could be called 'petty'. anyway you used far too many periods.

how British is that, innit?

Welcome to Englanf my friend. The worst spectator of sports of all time.

I can't wait to hear that 😂

he knows what LH is (a jerk)

He's definitely a max VERSTAPPEN fan

@@nikash97 He’s a jerk yes but he’s still nowhere near how max would be. Max ruined vettel’s championship chances in 17 and 18 nearly killed Raikkonen twice as well in 2016 and crashed into ricciardo twice, once in 17 and 18.

Piss on Nico rosberg

That’s how literally ever person passes on gt sport, EVERY CORNER.

Damn, I guess I have been doing a Hamilton all along lol. At least AI can’t kick you out of a race

We're all a bunch of Hamiltons 😂😂

:D

My exact thought during the GP: Wow, guess I admits he can't actually pass Max and decided to punt him off track instead.

Yep think of the luck Hamilton had. Silverstone. Minimum 18pts. Possibly 25pts. Baku- 26pts. Monza-PitCrew waited 12sec because the Light malfunctioned. He shoulda been Miles up the road & no where near Lewis and won or finished 2nd. But FIA docked him 3 points for a 50/50 collision…. Hungary- Bottas plowed everyone but his teammate and Max recovered 2pts but shoulda coulda won that race or even p2. 16-23pts lost. Plus Lewis’s luck. He went wide in Bahrain T4 30 times with no penalty.. gaining 3secs over the race while max went wide 3 times 1 time was AFTER he passed Hamilton but they counted that as a penalty. Because he overtook off track but the overtake was done. Either way tough break and a 13point swing. Lewis lucky in Imola. Should have been 1 lap down getting his car fixed but Russel & Bottas coincidently brought out a red flag and they allowed him to rebuild the damage, fresh tires, & get unlap him self. He finished 2nd when he should have finished 8th. 14pt swing. Max should have won that Championship by idk 50points minimum. 1 lucky break in Abu Dhabi doesn’t equal 20+ races of bad luck with all I mentioned plus the Stewards calls all year were against him. He literally got 1 fortunate call. 10wins to LH-8 10poles to LH-5 652 Laps led to LH-297 18podiums to LH-17 Bad Luck Winner- Max Good Luck winner- Lewis 😂😂😂😂😂 Max is King!

*25. Verstappen was almost certainly winning that one

​@austinjestis7124 wahh max overtook and went over the lines, that should be legal! Lmao. I'll stick to being a casual, I don't cry

Still crying bout this?sheesh😂

@@austinjestis7124 pretty much agree with everything except bahrain, rules did state you could freely run wide so long as you dont do it to overtake/defend. Still, max shuda won before abu dhabi.

Prost another mouth which got him the sack in the end

Monza 2021

@@alhamza7121 Now I really wanna know what he thinks

@@travishopkins6539 Wait till the end of the season... we might get a few more

And he proved that Hamilton was indeed at fault

@@T0NYMANUEL He just said his opinion. Without telemetry data, it's just guessing.

@@deiwi it's not guessing....the technical term is called Analysing and his analysis is 100% correct

@@deiwi You can see on the replay from Hamiltons t-cam that he has a pretty decent steering input but the car is just plowing straight on 🤷‍♂️

Seriously! Going on twitter and hearing all the expert fans discuss this is like beating your head against a wall

And Button was always more a Lewis Fan than Max, highly respect him for having the guts to say that.

@@ytwos1 Same opinion with Coulthard.

@@ytwos1 Button has been a Lewis hater since they were teammates. You can't be serious.

@@southsideny and what brings you to that conclusion?

@@ytwos1 To be fair, he was Hamilton's teammate back in McLaren and was also in BAR when Hamilton was racing against Alonzo.

lol

But the sad thing is that this man gets paid for it, and he is putting others in danger with his stupid unsportsmanlike conduct

@@FG-vp6id The penalty is a joke. Lewis, in all meaningful ways (championship race), was awarded for his dangerous behavior.

Let's not forget Lewis is a repeat offender. He did this to Albon too, and twice.

Hahaha, yeah, the "put yourself on the inside and understeer into your opponent on the outside to make the corner" is a very common tactic in GT Sport and is one of the main reasons I've more or less stopped playing it. I have dubbed it the Hamilton in post race chat 🤷‍♂️

Drama pays

british bias is real on sky

As did Button

Yeah look at that so called analysis video f1 uploaded which is just full of shitty biased opinions with no analysis about the move whatsoever

Damon Hill knows this first hand from another dirty cheating driver, Schumacher!

Yup jenson button knew the score Lewis fkd up. But was taking off air by fia when he started commentary about incident at time .. racing drivers are not stupid we see the mistakes and why they happen

The sky dudes are normally against Hamilton.😂😂😂

@@malidan1196 please tell me that’s a joke? Please tell me you’re not that silly? The Sky guys are extremely Hamilton biased, especially that annoying tw*t Brundle. They love Lewis. They kiss his ass all the time and they kiss it even more now due to this stupid BS Hamilton commissions inclusion crap

@@kinnexion I love Brundle but you’re right about him kissing Lewis’ ass all the time. I think he’s probably asked to do that though, for the sake of most British F1 fans’ egos.

@@malidan1196 bit more like half sky team fans of ham the others not so in to him ......

@vliduu zeeb LOLLL god you muppets are sour. You're calling it accurate because it supports your views, how hypocritical. This guy is just a driver, hes no one, yet look at you all frothing over the analysis HAAHAHHA

Nonsense.

Or maybe "go of track if you see hamilton "

@vliduu zeeb wtf do you call every other professional who called it a racing incident ???

@@deezelkane my god you are childish. Poor Lewis having fans like you 😂

netflix will portray Hamilton as the vicitm and Max as the evil bad guy simply bc of their pigmentation differences

@@Mgoblagulkablong pigmentation differences...ha love it..LOL

@@Mgoblagulkablong You guys invent "race card" moments that haven't happened to preemptively get mad at other discussions about race. That's a mental illness

@@Azer1125 Hes probably just talking about Netflix bias, which we have seen, but who knows why that is

@@Azer1125 are really saying netflix doesn't prefer blacks? Like they haven't casted white roles for blacks?

A video without graphics but hand gestures instead to explain an extremely graphic situation, this narration video is laughable, especially when smaller channels have put in more effort 🤡🤡

@@boxingtechniquevideos5755 If he had then... would you agree with him? You're just finding excuse to the facts that he told.

@@boxingtechniquevideos5755 troll, go to Tiktok

@@ashleycrane972 Okay calm down a bit, a lot of those commentators and pundits are/were also drivers. Hell, drivers from other teams are also coming to the same and differing conclusions. As such with aggressive racing incidents like this, it's always hard to get a conclusive line off the bat and so no two minds will think a like and sometimes even views will chop and change as you get more data and analyse over time.

@@boxingtechniquevideos5755 Put in more effort? F1 are a touchy subject - they seriously dislike larger channels that has actual video clips. So some channels explicitly avoids adding clips from the race. And the majority of people with an actual interest in this has already seen this accident.

And Massa many times in the past and Seb also, oh and to Nico, let's not forget. He's just a very very dirty driver when he wants to be.

He got a penalty

⁠​⁠@@albuxtoniYour making up things it was the opposite with nico he was the one constantly crashing and causing accidents with Hamilton at spain spa and austria seb and Hamilton had an incident at baku I believe in which one of them “break checked each other” and I don’t know what your on about when it comes to massa everyone makes mistakes doesn’t make them a dirty driver

bro he made a mistake....he is a human........his personality does not match this action..."ppl are not perfect they make mistakes "how old r u that u dont know this?

Yeah, everyone not a Carmilton fan knows that he crashed into Max on purpose

​@@vorpal6325He likes that "mistake" to much... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grV2q5N_sLCcZmw.html

Yes, he respects our time.

Yeah, no nonsense

He respects not just our time but our intelligence too.

A thumbs up 👍from me to you and I am subscribing as well!

I literally just posted the same thing. Props to you.

Yeah unlike that British Hamilton fanboy Fernando Alonso... oh wait hang on...

@@SIXITHS If I say “all dogs are animals” that doesn’t mean “all animals are dogs”. Here, the post is that “all British said Hamilton wasn’t at fault” and you try to prove them wrong by saying... “but a Spainiard says it wasn’t Lewis’s fault.”

@@blakebarone1809 The stretch of the year, congrats.

No one will reply to a question when the queation was clear and which is against Verstapen 😂😂😂

@@ArunKumar-pn2ox No, I’m not against Verstappan! To me he is one of the best! And I do believe that Hamilton was at fault. But I have seen Verstappan do some questionable moves when Red Bull was the slower car.

@@terryfleming7084 what mistake? he had every right to go for that corner. Did you expect max to apologise to vettel and raikkonen when he chucked his car down the inside in belgium 2016. takes out team mate riccardo, by sticking it on the inside at hungary 2017.takes out 2 ferraris in singapore 2017. sticking his car on the inside of lewis, then trying to force him off track, ending up with a puncture. bahrain 2018. jamming the car on the inside of vettel, taking them both out china 2018. belgium 2019, slams the car on the inside taking out raikkonen. did max ever take responsibilty for any of them?

@@ArunKumar-pn2ox literally no driver takes responsibility until they are proven wrong

@@wi9446 Sometimes it is called racing incident at 1st lap. But in this case see what happened they started using words like intentionally hitting , Irresponsible riding. And especially about his celebration Max openly tweeted it as a disrespectful celebration!!! How can Max live with that guilty even when He crashed these many peoples as listed above these years ☝️ and pointing out Hamilton to show respect for that crash? He must learn how to yield in some situations. You should not focus on how to pass without backing up. If not this corner if he has the pace he must have yielded at Copse and tried at Maggots and Beckkets. See what Hamilton was doing in his entire carreer except yesterday's race he was a bit delebrate to take the lead.

I know. It was a rookie's mistake for me.

​@@alexander_strachanit wasn't a mistake it wad intentional

wait what do u mean

what? whatare you saying robert?

No hate on your comment. Yes, it's inline with Ricciardo's assessment, but not with other current drivers that said it's racing incident. If there's no consensus between those that should know best, how can more casual outsiders give a definitive determination?

@@dpy3645 You do realize that drivers are trained to avoid saying things that draw too much attention to them, right? You can't expect most them to be honest.

It is also relevant to not though that Ricciardo and Max are quite good friends off track so there'd be an expectation of some support there. F1 drivers are also human and have biases, they're not completely impartial, especially Daniel in this case. I say that as a Daniel fan too. Not to say he's wrong but his view will be biased towards his friends.

uploader was Stephen Bentley...Just to give credit. Insane footage.

@@aspalovin Oh gosh, I didn't even see the tags in the upper left my first watch through. Good eye!

Its a basic racing rule, going up the inside is really risky and usually poses a great risk to both drivers going into a turn

@@Phaint_ Yes but tell that to the LW fanboys...

It's too codified. It draws the line at the front wing and suggests that no driver is entitled to attempt an overtake unless they are ahead. It's a bit flawed. Racing is more of a dance, and the two did not dance

Wrong...If the inside car is more than half way past the car on the outside then the Corner is theres...

@@davidchamberlain3949 which wasn’t the case here. Even worse so against Leclerc

Did u hear the one on the F1 official channel, total crap!!!

most people don’t have a clue about anything to do with racing, this guy knows his shit so we can trust what he says, i still think it was fully hamilton’s fault, a small error of judgement on such a fast corner can have a massive impact

Buxton or Jolyon Palmer said that Hamilton didn't miss the apex just a little bit... Thanks for the exhaustive explanation Scott. Really good! Well done!

@@marpio9 but the rider say this racing incident because Yeah they make mistake each other So we dont now Who is fault

@Archie Slap Some drivers say racing incident, some say penalty. Whos more qualified for an appeal to authority.

More unbiased people that don't just try to remain "neutral" for the sake of trying to avoid unavoidable controversy? I don't think they'd like that

@@ivanbastos4963 it’s funny you say that though because they blatantly aren’t neutral at all.

i mean, all the drivers said it was a racing incident, which it was. maybe 60/40 to Hamilton fault but thats about it.

@@ddha0000 Yeah, all except Ricciardo, Button, Coulthard, Webber. Also we should point out that when the drivers talked to the media they probably hadn't watched any replay or made any analysis of the incident and just went by what they saw in the car, which as Leclerc said "it's really hard to see because we are sitting so low". Don't you think that if they couldn't really see it clearly their views should be taken with a grain of salt?

@@jakewilliams8328 Yeah, Tim's analysis was a fucking joke

Absolutely,I am pretty sure they are allowed to drive on all of the track… and beyond in that season. Max had a taste of his own medicine. Glad he wasn’t hurt of course.

Indeed. But if you watch Joylon's so called assessment, you can see the LeClerc pass and how LH decided to make the Apex that time around. I hang it on this, LH didn't make the Apex during the MV inside pass, had a heavy car that under-steered towards MV and bumped the wheel.

Bro its litterally on the thumbnail of palmers breakdown on the f1 official channel😂😂😂😂

Its totally wrong to show that image because its after contact and after the car started sliding. Very poor analysis.

@@deloford ... There wouldn't have been contact if lh hadn't been that far wide!

The screenshot is 6 frames after the contact, but I also think both drivers were going deeper into the corner trying to out-brake each other. Hamilton braked earlier than Verstappen, as I'm assuming he had a tighter line, which is why the front and rear wheels touched. A second earlier Verstappen was only just over a wheel's diameter ahead.

Same here. :)

Absolutely. Timo Glock for sky germany also said similar things right after the crash.

Hamilton is protected politically

Yup

@@adamozmin8970 Alonso is protecting Hamilton politically? are you always this dumb?

There were two options. Considering the gap between them in the Championship and a technical advantage of Red Bull team throughout the season, Lewis hoped that an experienced driver and Championship leader like himself earlier or Max nowadays would have chosen the safer one.

🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

I thought racing incident all day long. It's just not clear cut in any way, but after watching it over and over, I think it was more Lewis' fault, but he made a statement of intent that he's not gonna keep backing out anymore because you can't race Max fairly. He has the Senna mantra of 'move, or we' ll crash'.

@MAAHAQQ there are rules that say the leading car determines the line he’s taking, though. With Hamilton being behind he absolutely needed to relent position. With the speed Hamilton was going he would have been lucky to hit that turn at all had he not crashed into Max.

I think you meant, finally an analysis that agrees with me.

@MAAHAQQ Yes you're right he doesn't have to by rule, it's only what every F1 driver tries to do, and regarding the qually lap you're wrong. He does hit the paint at the apex. Watch the video you linked. He also approached the copse from the outside line on his qually lap, which is the typical and best racing line. Notice how Verstappen went wide there during the race, so he could get the best cut in to the apex as he could especially with Hamilton on the inside. He turned in but left more than a car's width inside. Hamilton went in with way too much speed on that inside line and could not turn in to the apex. Essentially he drove straight into the side of Verstappen. 100% Hamilton's fault. Since FIA is handing joke penalties I guess it's open season now.

They hadn't even reached the the apex yet.

Doubt it. Hamilton will be happier than netflix if im honest

Lewis literally won

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What? Hamilton and Merc. were huge winners in this situation.

You obviously didn’t see how happy Lewis was

In old cars yes, but in these modern cars no. Max was barely scarve by that crash. And people over exaggerate what actually went on at the hospital. Max, like every other driver after a crash, went to a blood check up to make sure there was no internal bleeding. No other damages, and was perfectly racing the next weekend.

Plus a 10 second time penalty is already a gigantic penalty, a drive through and stop and go is way too much. Plus if max went on the outside he would carry more speed through cops allowing him to stay ahead, and he should of known that hamilton would understeer due to dirty part of the track he was going, all of these could of prevented the crash, plus either one of them couldve of shield but neother did, that cause the accident. This as far as racing is a racing incident, however there probably other factors that the FIA brought in that made lewis get the penalty. Sorry but this Comment is a tad bit bias towards verstappen, but understandable since that was a 25 point lost and was pretty big and alot of people are still talking about it.

@@cesardepena7498 you can't just conclude that modern cars are strong enough to make sure that a driver wont be injured or worse. A driver could still have injuries or even die. Adding to that 10 seconds was in this scenario not huge at all, as both drivers were in a league of their own, and the gap to the other drivers usually was bigger than ten seconds. These penalties almost encourage to crach others out. But i must say that the penalty debate is a hard one to solve.

This is one of the reasons why I enjoy his content so much. There's never any bias or agenda. It's a purely analytical look at things. Made even better by his career as an actual racer, not just an armchair fan. Scott really is the last word in breaking down things in the motorsport world. FOM needs to hire him ASAP.

Good to see a fellow honest Brit

Dude how relieving to hear your analysis. I think the way Hamilton and verstappen raced was sublime. It's just a shame this generation of cars are so disappointing when it comes to these scenarios. Lewis's car was going to be incredibly unpredictable in that position. Hence baking out was the right thing to do. I can understand the circumstances that lead him to stay there. And in different cars it might of been different but 100% Hamilton fault on this one.

Also Jenson Button and David Coulthard. Not sure how you missed that.

It was a racing incident tho

Yup. Agree with that Mitch.

Good point. Sprint race gives too much information ahead of the race.

Also Hamilton said that he wasn't gonna be bullied on the track.He didn't get bullied by Max but the result was a crash.

@@myk1137 yes. Perfectly said.

@@SimonHosford And for those haters,there is no need to complain.Hamilton made collision and got a 10 second penalty.It doesn't matter if it's fatal or not,it is a 10 second penalty as long as it's a collision.

CrashMaxHappen.

Me too :)

@@madjayax731 Lewis Crashmilton

me too man, me too

@@1DjFuzzion1 no, you are cringe

*winks at Hamilton.

Yeah no. Hamilton didn’t shunt him on purpose

@@psquared518 It's a joke.

@@psquared518 it's a joke, although what happened was one hell of a coincidence and very convenient, but its a joke comment.

Lewis doesn’t take beer

this is not the way this should go. Someone may die.

@@RA-el6zj Yes. But, what can I say Hamilton and Toto disagree. Sorry Sir Hamilton is it.

Well it may happen but it's bloody entertaining. Stop crying about hard racing, we haven't seen this since at least 3 years ago.

again and again, any crime in the world is convicted based on the offence, the intention, not the outcome. THE OFFENCE. you said this because its lewis right? its him to blame so you brought this up. schumacher was disqualified from the championship because his deliberate action of turning in, regardless of the outcome of jacques car. where do you learn law? you have a brain or not? another example, vettel was given 10 second stop go at baku 2017 because his deliberate turn in to lewis, not because hamilton suffered anything. if what you said is done, hulkenberg 2019 spa is banned for one race. AND GROSJEAN WAS PENALISED IN 2012 BECAUSE HE EXCEEDED THE PENALTY POINTS.LET THAT SINK IN YOUR TINY HEAD.seriously

Have you watched Karun's analysis? In my opinion I don't think you can discredit other analysis just becuase this one supports your beliefs, but consider all of them.

Just saying reading this sounds just slightly like how it was in your head is the truth, and you're happy to see someone confirm it. Just keep in mind that sometimes how it's in your head is not the truth. Respectfully.

@@beanboy3218 Some are gonna be wrong, some are gonna be right. This one happens to be right

@@ivanbastos4963 haha so true and no @Bean Boy havent watched it. All I know is that this 1 is 100 % true.

@@sennadoeprettig1691 Most of what Hammer fanboys say to back him up is just utter bullshit, like saying Max didn't leave enough space or that he turned into Lewis... It's crazy how stuck up those people are

10 Second is nothing, and to add salt he fixed his car under a red flag. What a joke!

the stewards is correct in this analysis in my opinion, but 10 seconds penalty and not even a stop n go is a joke

No illegal double defending move by max?

@@rapip3348 it was 10 seconds stop & go

@@gegegichakson4404 It was only a 10 second penalty, not a 10 second stop-and-go. Brundle was wrong when he was talking about it at first.

hopeless missle. full send

@Christian Somebody because of politics, i would be quite too in the mainstream todays

He should take place as a steward!

So true, felt like the Sky commentators all turned to a pro Hamilton or at least a 50/50 viewpoint after the British driver winning at the British GP on a British TV channel... First time I had to turn off before the end of the coverage. I really looked forward to seeing this, an unbiased outside opinion...

@@Tweej Sky are woke hypocrites with all white male boardroom. A lot of people are cancelling and tuning in to european channels or streaming.

@@richy69ify never thought of this ... Does any other broadcasters run in English?

Same here, yet another reason why Driver61 is one of the best channels on KZfaq.

@@Gucc111 correction the best

@@Gucc111 Him, by not giving any type of blame on Verstappen reeks of bias and I don't trust or agree with his assessment.

+Jenson Button

Coulthard and Webber both immediately blamed Hamilton, Coulthard even made a comment to the effect 'was Hamilton even going for the apex?'

@@steveflatman Since when are Coulthard and Webber British? lol

@@steincaron You are so confident at your answer. Coulthatd is. Lol

Not only a fan. He's a driver too, or he used to at least

The only other one was Jenson button

neutral my ass...biased.

@@davepastern care to explain why it's biased?

@@davepastern you are delusional

@@davepastern it would be nice if you actually explained why it’s biased and not just talk out of your ass

@@davepastern hamilton fanboy

For real, I ditched my country's coverage for F1TV hoping to get better commentary, but the bias in yesterday's incident was absolutely awful. I expect a bit of British favouritism, but the blatant bias was disgraceful.

I agree

​@@knightmayorxd6395 But team principals wanted that change. Stewards are not looking who crashed and what big impact will have in championship. They looking just on incident. That's why Raikkonen got 20 seconds for crash with Vettel.

I thought if they were going to give him a penalty it would be a 5 second, since the incidents at austria were the very similar but with a different result. Also i expected them to be more lenient with it being first lap. Tbf though the only way you can make it a truly fair punishment is to black flag him so he doesnt get any points, but that would be pretty extreme, so maybe a stop go wouldve been better.

100% agree its disgusting to listen english commentary, Brundel and Lawrence sucks. we need Rosberg(Merc fan) and Coulthard(RB fan) :D

There is no thinking at that speed, just pure instincts and habits they have built since their karting days as children.

When you drink a glass of water you are making hundreds of calculations. These drivers have been training for this for decades.

Typically they start at the each of 6-8 in gokarts. With Go karts you don't experience heavy fuel but you do experience cold tyres and dirt. So this is done by instinct not by thought. However if one asks why they you did this or that the better kids can already explain many of these things by the age of 10-12.

exactly what i was thinking. people blaming max for "turning into" lewis when he actually corrected his line in a fracture of a second and left even more space as soon as he saw lewis was trying on the inside.

@@jamesmaier5544 For me, like Charles said its a racing incident. Charles, Kimi, Vettel and even Perez know Max is aggressive and this incident was just about to happen. We have been seeing near misses through out the season. And drivers and teams are always going to try and clear their names and blame each other. It is nothing new. And people keep talking about apologies. I don't think drivers do that generally. Its not like they backed into each other at a parking lot. It's racing, it is tough it is dangerous and that's why there are only 20 in the world at the F1 level. Season has intensified. Just need to be happy the drivers are safe and carry on with it.

@Laika24102007 You can listen to my words? Wow! They have medication for that. Consult your expert therapist or expert psychiatrist for further expert advice for this malady. I'm sure one will be glad to expertly prescribe something for it. And your words look and reference like shit, bullshit that is. Or are you Verstappen's public relations consultant and you're tired of being proven wrong? Too bad! Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one and they all stink.

The Honda engines from the McLaren/Alonso seasons also had really good breakdowns

@@oldmanfran5523 that's different breakdown

Or to try and confirm your opinion

Don't say break down.

@@unddasheit4034 that is the joke

Holy cow, hello mr verified

No it wasn't. It's not about understeer it's about holding your line, Lewis held his line, Max turned into him, period.

Agreed. Good assessment

@@JayTac1 You must have mixed some of these "rules" quite badly. Hamilton was very far from being fully alongside of Verstappen's car. Max had all the right to stay on the ideal line, because Hamilton should have yielded in this situation.

No, he refused to acknowledge that heading into the corner the two were side by side and Max saw Lewis right next to him! They say he stuck a tire in, but there untrue! Lewis was right next to Max and he saw him so his hard turn into Lewis trying to get Lewis to brake was also an error that cost him! Racing incident 100%!

First its heard* and secondly factual? In what way, all he did was give the same analysis as the majority of the other pundits and then have his opinion. Nothing factual

@@penart8079 I found the vegan

Factual? It's 8 minutes of waffling.

max: ...

Hamilton gets hit by Kimi, starts crying, "interesting tactics".

Yes, getting Hamilton'd is a thing.

@@AFreezer More like Schumacher'd.

As a matter of fact, every replay shows quite clearly that it is not Hamilton hitting Verstappen: it's the Red Bull's right rear that hits the Mercedes' left front coming from behind. Ad it seems to be a crucial detail that has been sorely missed here.

exactly, I was screaming when it happened with Leclerc cause I thought he was mad for trying it again, and you CLEARLY see the difference in line. I hated "the race" channels response about it, and it felt VERY biased to "Hamilton did nothing wrung lul"

@@henrik1743 Brundle and Button made it clear that it was Lewis’ fault and especially Brundle twice calling the penalty the “second most lenient” made his opinion clear.

@@jealva I'm pretty sure the commentators during the race both mentioned race incident though

@@henrik1743 Karun in his analysis said it was a racing incident. It doesn't matter, this debate will rage on for a long time. Roll on the next race!

La Source is a braking zone with a hairpin. There is no similarity. Hamilton was completely alongside heading into Copse, which has zero braking zone. In fact, if we pretend there was a braking zone, Verstappen made two moves in the middle of it.

Always keep an eye on the start of the race. Just think all of that money prep and time and most of the time they dont make it to the first turn. Absurd

No m8 just means u are either far enough in front to comprise and hold out the car on outside but if u have not got enough car if front and u may be running side by side its nice 2 try give the driver u are driving against some room and know u are never faster taking a inside entry so speed has to drop more to make it work . Lewis never backed off enough causing his car to understeer dramatically into max end of story 🙄

Absolutely, why are we assuming that Hamilton was required to take the perfect racing line, Max was elsewhere on the track, so he certainly wasn't on it

if the choice is between hitting a car or the apex, you go for the apex. As Lewis was on the inside and on Max's rear, he could either hit the apex or Max. He decided to miss the apex. It's not like you can push someone wide if you are behind. Had Lewis led on the inside into the corner he could have missed the apex without problem and pushed Max wide, but since he was on the inside and behind, he just divebombs into Max's rear tire.

@@andersmatthias9589 yes m8 he should have known he hadn't got the job done by the time of entry to corner and backed out of move, but there s drivers who own and race cars and there's paid drivers who don't own car and drive with a different mentality and risks are easier to take knowing its not costing him personally

@@TOTV13 max was on the outside to let hamilton pass......

As Hamilton fans like to say, Hamilton doesn't make mistakes

@@michaelhood684 The only people more self entitled than Lewis are his fans.

Brazil 19, Austria 20, now Britain 21. This guy is the new torpedo

3 Red Bulls knocked off of the podium in three successive years... very strange i think

According to Toto Max makes mistakes ;-) According to FIA Hamilton is god and never wrong.

Yes, also curious as to your opinion on this? These seem to suggest strongly that the event could be considered a racing incident? I appreciate what you are saying about the driver on the inside basically bearing all of the responsibility for keeping everyone safe, but it seems that these guidelines breakdown various situations in more detail, properly considering the positioning of the cars. Also there seems to be a lot of discussion on the ‘correct‘ racing line and trajectory through/past the apex, with some citing deviation from this as proof of an error.. however the reality is (-especially when wheel-to-wheel racing, lining up for an over take, driving in the wet, trying to get out of hot/dirty air, etc) that taking later or earlier apexes and creative lines through corners is not only acceptable but a required part of circuit racing to gain an advantage over the competition. The reason that I mention it, is that after hearing many view differing analysis, I still believe both cars could have easily made it through the corner (side by side, if necessary) with minimal loss of momentum if they had given each other adequate space. According to FIA guidance (for ‘chase car sufficiently up the inside of the lead’), neither driver had any obligation to yield, so it comes down to driver judgement and observation - Max’s mistake was that he judged Lewis to be in a position that he wasn’t (or perhaps did observe correctly, but was attempting to force Lewis into yielding) and Lewis’ was to push too hard into the corner, leaving himself deeper than typical, especially when you consider the narrow angle he was forced to approach the corner from.

@@BenLewisMaverick I've been told this is the email sent by Toto. Schematic of overtaking positioning. I could be wrong though. ibb.co/PmSqkc4

He talked about the room Verstappen gave. It was more than enough.

Listening to it live I also got the impression that Toto wanted to make sure RedBull should get penalized for the tyre coming of the wheel or something like that...

@@SuperPhelix and why would they be penalized for that? Pirelli os responsible for that, Or in this case Hamilton, since he shunted him of the track

@@8911145533 whoosh

In my opinion, the sole reason for an e mail instead of a radio call was to do with some secret chat as team radio is public to all but E-mails aren’t.

@@Khan-ts2ji No, it was to send them an image from the rule book about weaving and acceptable defence in braking zones. They even said that in the radio message. Please stop making things up.

"Michael did you check your email" "No Toto I don't access my emails during a race."

And Christian having an Academy Award Winning performance trying to sell his side as well.

@@alekskesic3030 I found this statement ridiculous as the race had been stopped so there was nothing to watch for the race director. I can understand this statement in any other race where the cars were on track, but this wasn't the case here. And the diagram was that of the instructions given to teams and drivers by him before the race, maybe with Lewis' and Max's positions just prior to the coming together added. In this day and age making any team principal have to physically walk up to the office of those needing to see the diagram I think is just ridiculous.

@@mattpotter8725 as the commentators mentioned Michael can only ask the stewards to look at an incident, he has no say in the outcome, so both team principals contacting him after the incident was already under review wasn't going to achieve anything. Also I'd imagine he'd be busy coordinating the barrier repair and then working out when to restart the race.

@@somat111 That may be true but that's not what he said. And he did say if you want him to see if go and have him the diagram in person, that's nearly exactly what he said, so I'm not buying this excuse.

100% correct.

Please post the link.

He have achieved his championships thanks to car being in another level and lame partner who moves aside then told. Its halfway through championship and it feels that we only started the year. The reason? Because this time spec haven't changed with last year and Mercedec weren't able to outperform in the first half of the year. How many mistakes we have seen was made by Sir Hamilton? He is now more under pressure to deliver and doesn't have a luxuary of car being a 1 sec faster to Max.

No, he refused to acknowledge that heading into the corner the two were side by side and Max saw Lewis right next to him! They say he stuck a tire in, but there untrue! Lewis was right next to Max and he saw him so his hard turn into Lewis trying to get Lewis to brake was also an error that cost him!

Yeah, it's weird to see from a multiple world champion. But as said above; That was in a highly superior car. I think what we're seeing is someone who just has not a lot of experience in taking over cars that are almost as good or even equal.

@@skeletonmodel precisely. Applauding standing.

@@Naija4K Compare the line of Lewis with Leclerc and Verstappen. That's all you need to know, Lewis is way off. Add to that that it's very hard to hit someone's rear right with your left front when you're side by side and there is no argument left really. Verstappen gave him the same amount of space as Leclerc, but Lewis even when being behind did not want to leave him space. It was either bad driving or dangerous driving. I hate to think the second, but if you combine Lewis' insecure childlike behaviour with taking cars out the exact same way before, it does become suspicious

To be fair to Palmer I feel like he didn't have the time nor the resources to do a proper analysis. They kinda just put him on the desk with a small screen to look at. Hopefully he releases a more in depth look sometime soon!

Just as brilliant as his racing career….

@@elvewizzy nah. He might be pressured to go with 50/50

An inch omg, Lewis was like 5 tor 6 FEET away from the apex

Alonso was right ....Palmer is a joke ... That's why he is not a f1 driver anymore

Do you mean finally and assessment that agrees with you? That's all it is. This guy is no more qualified to judge this than those in the paddock. A good few drivers disagree with this guy.

@@CMDRRustyDog go fetch rusty. i'm pretty certain he's far more qualified than plonkers................. newsflash! many a good/great drivers disagree on a plethora of incidents. this vastly experienced fella was the first one to call it as it was without some pc bollocks.

@@leehobbs1076 pretty sure that fernando has a decent enough resume to call it as it is...

@@leehobbs1076 Hahahah ask any driver of the current grid, they would say otherwise ….

What about Karun Chandhok? He's Indian, an ACTUAL F1 driver, and considers it a racing incident.

It was Max's fault. He turned in on Lewis way too soon trying to force Lewis to back off, which obviously Lewis didn't. I just hope the younger drivers are taking lessons from Lewis how to deal with the bully. Max's driving style will definitely cause more accidents.

@@jamcock8187 yes he did turn into a corner. If lewis didnt understeer the collision wouldntve happened at this point.

Max would not have had a time penalty for exiting wide. Look at Leclerc later in the race.

@@9999AWC i agree but he would still lose a bunch of time. I think it was a misjudgement on maxs part and a fault on hamiltons.

should have been a drive through penalty

@@Colakaktus 🅱lack Flag

He didn’t know max was in hospital until after the celebrations during an interview, last he was told was Max was okay and out of the car walking during the race

I wasn't a big fan of Hamilton, and I'm ashamed of myself because one day i became his fan.

I have never understood this 10-second penalty in general. Why are you allowed to serve your penalty whenever you want? It doesn't make any sense at all. There used to be a rule that you had to serve a penalty within 3 laps. But this way he had enough time to cover his back.

@Traverse1010 check out their penalty points…. Always backing off Hamilton not looking too good….

Hmm Canada 2016. Sounds like a “long history”, unless we have a different meaning for that phrase?

@Traverse1010 Hamilton collected 8 points last 12,5 months… (Austria, Imola and Silverstone), currently stands at 4, your argument that Verstappen has 0 because he drives at the front is really good for a laugh 😂👍… thanks for that… I’m starting to doubt Hamilton even won that wdc last year 🤔☺️… naaah… did he??

@@IRoss106 That was just a specific example that I distinctly remember. USA another one? Australia? Many more I don't recall right now, but back then it was a regular occurrence and his usual excuse was 'understeer', hence "long history"..

I totally agree he have done it with vettel..

*bono my tires are gone* "Lewis, it's only lap one, how?" *here I'll show you*

Very timely and only into Red Bull cars to my memory. Haha

@Kevwe Patani Yeah the lead car should definitely back out, in a flat out corner, to a car they can't see. Nothing is more logical. Said every Hamilton fan.

Lewis: "I was clearly ahead of him guys!" Max: Gets clipped on the right rear by Hamiltons left front 😧

@@Brian_Tabor actually Max saw Lewis and avoided him. Everyone who watched the race saw, in the post-race analysis in slow-mo, Max turning his head right, seeing Lewis then steering left. I guess he didn't account for the understeer that was happening. The way I see it I don't think it was an understeer that wasn't planned by Lewis. He was desperate. And gave Max the opportunity to make what they call in American sports "a business decision." But I guess Max decided his health wasn't as valuable as Lewis thought. Lewis was at fault for putting Max in that situation. But Max once put in that situation should have "lived to fight another day." Thank god he is fine.

He was there for a check up not put into hospital. Lewis asked if he was OK straight away.

Lewis didn't know he was in hospital until later on, his team told him he was fine. stop being an idiot on the internet dude.

@@appliancedoctor2899 MRI scans, he still may suffer like pilots when they eject. Lewis still shows no remorse or will apologise.

@@ddha0000 51G isnt fine. Horner looked cut up knowing Max will need brain scans.

@@richy69ify 'his team told him he was fine' can you even read dude or are you naturally stupid?