Hammerhead Karoo 3 In-Depth Review: Worth the Upgrade?

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SRAM & Hammerhead have just released the latest version of their GPS cycling computer, the “new Karoo”.
Buy the Karoo 3: amzn.to/3zk0CuJ (links helps support the site!)
This unit combines much-asked-for hardware updates, with a smattering of software updates, to provide a natural evolution over the existing Karoo 2.
0:00 Quick Overview
0:42 The Name
1:51 What's New & Hardware Specs
3:18 Responsiveness & Lag Testing
4:51 New Audio Chirp Loudness Test
5:47 SIM Removal & Companion App
6:35 Rain Responsiveness Thunderstorm Test
8:11 Basic Ride Usage & Menus
11:35 Sensors & SRAM RED AXS Integration
11:47 Climbing Data Pages (Climber)
15:58 Strava Live Segments
16:50 Finishing a ride and uploading
17:30 Navigation & Mapping
20:58 GPS & Elevation Accuracy
25:04 Battery Life Burn
26:03 Final Thoughts & Recommendations
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@stevos64 3 ай бұрын

Who noticed as well that on 25:26 the battery time of the new Karoo is compared to a device called "Wahoo Roam V3"? 😁

@askmeaboutmattweiner 3 ай бұрын

Yeah but the rest of that file also has ELEMENT_ROAM_2

@danichro 3 ай бұрын

Ray just leaked a new Roam..

@iamwil974 3 ай бұрын

iN Ray's depth review of roamV2 he mentioned a battery life 17h in 2022 AND today in this review we can see an estimation of 30h of battery life.... I have no doubt

@iamwil974 3 ай бұрын

also on the next slide of this review ; roamV2 has a est. battery life 30h...it's not true...

@ev-ezaye3580 3 ай бұрын

Just a 'filenames' hiccup!

@ilikebikes4554 3 ай бұрын

As a belgian the K3 reference is absolutely hilarious

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

Mango mango!

@leandertaelman9252 Ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker you should have picked 10000 luchtballonnen

@kestralrider313 3 ай бұрын

Great video DCRM. I loved the friendly smack talk to GPL. I also learned how Petty Shimano is. Having watched them gobble up market share in the 90s when I worked in a shop, I have no sympathy for them loosing market share each year to an American company. Hopefully they are learning that consumers are looking for and expecting more than fast/smooth shifting. For better or worse, I expect we'll see fast growth of Chinese groupsets in the next decade.

@1533willo Ай бұрын

Thanks for review. Looks like very nice riding where you are.

@mlaw1983 3 ай бұрын

Ray, you are awesome! Don’t ever change. 🥭🥭

@kieranbarry8193 3 ай бұрын

i do like the ability to send a google maps location to the device via the app! Trying to find a map point on the device map is a fool's errand! It is a real shame they are not allowing the app for existing k2 users

@razvanhalmaciu1 3 ай бұрын

Another great review! Thanks, Ray. Keep 'em coming.

@aliancemd 3 ай бұрын

2:04 the major change is actually the price, holy sh*t

@danielakerman8241 3 ай бұрын

Still cheaper than a Garmin Edge 840

@ev-ezaye3580 3 ай бұрын

@@glipglop1😂

@ggoben 3 ай бұрын

Also I think u should mention the Karoo can display multiple strava segments at once. Say your starred an entire climb but there’s also a segment for the very top that u also starred. Garmin will ignore that top segment cause it’s still doing the entire climb segment. It can only display 1 segment a time. The Karoo will pop up a drawer for each segment and u can have multiple going at once. A great feature for sure.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Yup, I cover it in my comparison video. Both Wahoo & Hammerhead do it.

@jeffsancricca7041 3 ай бұрын

As long HH keeps supporting the 2, I don’t see enough to spend $500 for the upgrade. Thanks for the great review!

@MitjaBonca 3 ай бұрын

Exactly. There is nothing in the new verison that would be worth of 500€.

@aliancemd 3 ай бұрын

The changes are so minor - looking at the tech they used, it looks like they actually did a few costs cuts compared to the release of Karoo 2 and slapped a $500 price tag on it.

@MitjaBonca 3 ай бұрын

@@aliancemd indeed, this is definitely not worth $500€

@LifeCycle1978 3 ай бұрын

I suspect they will separate the Karoo 2 and 3 in the coming updates. There is a fairly big difference between android 8 and 12.

@ralphcole674 3 ай бұрын

This is all for new device shopping. I'm not going to ditch my K2 for a K3 .

@PBazuin 3 ай бұрын

Loved watching the small error you had at 20:56 while recording :P Always wondered how you went about recording a video like this, now we know :D

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Haha, depending on which device you’re on, said oops is already gone! 🤣

@edittide9842 3 ай бұрын

The review I’ve been waiting for so thanks Ray. There are some nice touches to the K3. As you note the companion App is the standout for me too. The evolutionary update and the price hike is a bit hard to swallow, but I guess as others have commented that is why the K2 will still be around. Really looking forward to the SRAM Red review too. The integration with the K3 is neat but again nothing that gives you FOMO to spend $4500 and go all in😅

@LackofFaithify 2 ай бұрын

K2 is already not around, lol. Well, not new anyway.

@gasken2182 2 ай бұрын

Ray - The man with watch tan lines on BOTH wrists

@frantzs1077 3 ай бұрын

''Mango, mango, coconut, papaya,.. .bananananananaaa... ''. Man that is a lot of mangos.... Great review, got some info I didn't know I needed.

@christoph_wattever 3 ай бұрын

Got the Karoo 2, switched from Garmin and I love it. Definitely gonna get the Karoo 3

@qwer55555555 3 ай бұрын

is it better? How? I am in a m market for a new bike computer and thinking about Karoo 2/explore 2 OR 1040 maybe

@christoph_wattever 3 ай бұрын

@@qwer55555555 by far imho. Just a LOT smoother, better menus, better routing, better strava live segments even, funnily enough even better Garmin Radar control which should be better on Garmin. So all-around better for me

@qwer55555555 3 ай бұрын

@@christoph_wattever Thank You!

@kartografist 3 ай бұрын

@@qwer55555555 you can find h2 for 150-200$ which is a bargain. For this price it is ahead better than 840 if you ask me. Only the battery is an obvious cons for h2. You need to charge it after each training.

@ev-ezaye3580 3 ай бұрын

@@qwer55555555get yourself a Garmin 840 or a 1030 plus... you'd thank yourself later

@meinAliasfuer2024 3 ай бұрын

K2 is awesome but has trouble with elevation most of the time. There are some days the elevation is counting up on flat segments or you have 5-10% error in elevation. My workaround : use Strava data to correct Elevetion data every time - so you can compare all rides.

@theFriebe 3 ай бұрын

@Dcrainmaker 0:30 eagerly awaiting the comparison video! Wanting to buy my first bike head unit but waiting for your review first…Great Karoo 3 review!

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Coming up next!

@Xyzlor 2 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmakeri too am eagerly awaiting. I received the k3 this weekend but with the current drop of price on the 1040 - I’m having serious doubts I have the right unit in my hands :-). I donrun an AXS etap group set but I suspect it pairs to garmin fine.

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

@@Xyzlor Almost done. Things got out of hand. I kept adding more and more sections...

@Xyzlor 2 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that :-)

@theFriebe 2 ай бұрын

@@Xyzlor same thought-the Garmins are discounted and compelling. For me I’m torn coming down to the UI. The Karoo is taunting me especially sending a location from phone to the bike 🤯 but really interested in gravel and mtn bike ride data feedback which don’t know how Karoo does in that area

@peterkuiper5363 3 ай бұрын

The louder beep is actually very important for me. And a selling point.

@ttalonso 3 ай бұрын

really?

@peterkuiper5363 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@peterkuiper5363 3 ай бұрын

Have a bad hearing. I use the Karoo combined with a Garmin Varia. I always have to keep an eye on my Karoo, not to miss a car from behind.

@SvenfromKiel 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. I expected to see a better map here on Karoo 3 compared to 2 which differs between small ways and trails, little roads, like I had with my earlier Garmin 1030. I am now on Karoo 2 and don't see a reason for an upgrade...upgrade too expensive for me...I paid 230€ for the 2. Nevertheless I like Karoo much more as it is more user friendly and easy-to-use for me.

@ralphcole674 3 ай бұрын

It's a new device review. I'm not going to replace my K2 or 830 with a K3 anytime soon.

@SvenfromKiel 3 ай бұрын

@@ralphcole674 I also didn’t sell my 1030 because of the map and battery for long trips in unknown areas. For navigating on tour I don‘t like the Karoo. But if I only do follow-the-line with a planned route, I like it much more…especially rerouting works great.

@NickM86 3 ай бұрын

I saw that new shape in SRAM's video and thought something was up. Upgraded from a Wahoo Bolt V1 to a K2 last year, I love the display. Not sure if the K3 is worth the upgrade, but I like the fact that there is a companion app now.

@Acyclistandhockeysnob 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the Compsnion app doesn’t work with the K2 due to “hardware limitations” yet other mfgrrs still have their older models working with their companion apps. Just another company trying to get their consumers to spend $475+ on a new unit when in all reality all it takes is a simple firmware/software update for it to work on the K2.

@RestlessGambler14 3 ай бұрын

The main improvement I hoped for was extended battery life. My K2 drained battery too quickly, especially with multiple sensors in use and max settings.

@ttalonso 3 ай бұрын

+2h = +500$ powerbank 10$ +20H

@ericanderson8332 3 ай бұрын

When the K2 was released, Hammerhead offered an upgrade/trade in program for the K1. Any indication if that will be the case this time?

@LackofFaithify 2 ай бұрын

I actually pity whoever the person is that has a mind that saw Karoo 3, and somehow became terrified that it would be associated with that group. They must be at 110% stress at all times in their life.

@pillows4338 29 күн бұрын

People go crazy about this kind of things these days unfortunately. I do rather they name it Karoo 4, less confusing

@murphychris314 2 ай бұрын

@dcrainmaker great review as always. FWIW there's a few edit cuts that seem incorrect.

@szagii_9447 2 ай бұрын

when are you planning post the video comparing the wahoo roam vs garmin vs karoo3?

@juliandivett4244 3 ай бұрын

My main problem with the Karoo 2 is the button feel and placement especially when you've got gloves. I like that they've moved the power button elsewhere.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

It's definiteley a lot better with the Karoo, in terms of teh buttons are clearer/sharper edges.

@ericanderson8332 3 ай бұрын

How easy is it to upload routes to the companion app? Now, when I get to a group ride and the ride leader sends me the gpx file, I have to save it to my phone, upload it to the dashboard, and hotspot my K2 with my phone so it syncs to the dashboard. A real PITA.

@stevesmith9082 3 ай бұрын

Be interesting to see how the battery actually goes, had 2 karoo 2's and both at 25% battery only lasted another 15-20 mins before shutting down

@mauromoretto6579 3 ай бұрын

Having the Karoo 2 but daily using the Roam 2 because of its great drink-food reminder. Karoo 2 and presume 3 is still not listening to the market needs.

@ralphcole674 3 ай бұрын

I normally have physiologic reminders for refueling and rehydrating. A timer would suffice for race reminders.

@bobzuidema3560 2 ай бұрын

Great review you're killing each and every time! So the two extra buttons on RED can be programmed to swap pages on the Karoo3 does this als go for the wireless BLIP buttons? Already ordered a K3 so certainly no deal breaker for me but it would be a nice extra on descents and in winter with thick gloves on although the K3 buttons work alot better than those on the K2 I'm sure. Big deal maker for me was the screen, battery (just for peace of mind), the improved buttons and the companion app. What also helps is that I love new tech lol.

@neil_down_south 3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure why (lack of experience?) but I always struggled to know/remember which physical button did what on K2. I also had a few times where the screen when routing froze... Either lag or electrolyte drink on my finger, but either way was worrying. New app looks good.

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

I often did too. Having the power button broken out now really helps. That said, I commented I still think having actual etching on the buttons would help/be better.

@JeffBudden 2 ай бұрын

Great, thanks Ray

@davidstempnakowski 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. Hammerhead's page for the new Karoo is terrible if you're looking for the kind of information you just provided.

@ralphcole674 3 ай бұрын

If i were shopping for a new head unit, the Karoo 3 wins hand down. Good review.

@CRcyclist 3 ай бұрын

Not even six minutes into this video and I'm smiling, thinking "DC Rainmaker's reviews are anything but dry." 😄 A minute later: okay, very literally not dry! 😆

@tomnanD3 3 ай бұрын

It's good they got rid of that horrible matt glass cover.

@vishalkarna3763 3 ай бұрын

Hello DC Rainmaker, thanks for the review on new Karoo. There are few questions : 1) Does this new Karoo allow to type in address directly on the GPS unit and start navigation similar to Garmin 840/1040 ? 2) Does this new Karoo has feature to find POI (points of interest) like coffee shops, bike shop, etc using the bike unit directly without phone ? 3) Does this new Karoo provide name of the road on which we are riding ? thanks !

@ev-ezaye3580 3 ай бұрын

The typing-in of addresses has been a staple of Garmin. From the Edge 705 onwards...

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

Sorry, missed this. It does allow an address typing in - but it requires an internet connection. It also provides the exact name of the road.

@pillows4338 29 күн бұрын

Hello DCR. Thank you for the detail video about the New Karoo. I do have a question about the data pages. For the data page with the map display, can you only select 2 data at the top, or can you add more? I always want to have Spd, Cadence, and HR displayed, but have to settle to 2 of them only on my Edge 530. Side question, I live the US and it will be my dream to ride in Netherlands and Belgium one day. Do they accommodate cyclist well in hotel/Air B&B? Or are they going to show you a nasty face? (That could also be being an American…)

@drsus0 3 ай бұрын

the notification thing is a real bummer ... enough to make me wait to see if they fix that before thinking about buying it.

@ceeskes412 3 ай бұрын

I wait for a couple of months

@ceeskes412 3 ай бұрын

Is that a real issue the notification thing or was i once ?

@vothry 3 ай бұрын

Best feature IMO is the larger speaker. I couldn’t hear it before and lost many miles to not starting the ride because the prompt beep was too soft.

@ttalonso 3 ай бұрын

buy some speakers and subwoofer and pair it via bluetooth on the karoo 2 for less money

@JesseStarrPhoto 3 ай бұрын

Wonder if Hammerhead can improve the elevation data recording through software.

@tbone-ip5fi 3 ай бұрын

8:36 Haha, this had me laugh out loud. Genius poke at the overzealous fear of acronym associations

@zdravo4 3 ай бұрын

Interesting device but I am used to Bryton and my 750 SE is the best option for me in the moment. I hope they will make some new models soon.

@orrinkelso9295 3 ай бұрын

My Karoo2 is wildly inaccurate for elevation gain. It will often read double the actual gain. It reads 4000 ft when it should have showed about 2000 ft.

@pluckerpick 15 күн бұрын

It’s a known issue, hammerhead will swap it out for you

@runrhi 25 күн бұрын

Thanks!

@mlegrand 3 ай бұрын

I'm only here for K3 Mango Mango content. I am so very very disappointed in this cycling computer talk.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Mango Mango!!! 🥭🥭

@qwer55555555 3 ай бұрын

7:37 it's not 7 miles, but 7*340m (speed of sound), 2,3k

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Ahh...so roughly divide by 5 for miles, and by two for kilometers (with a fudge factor). Huh...well...guess it got a bit close.

@mullermichael2830 Ай бұрын

What stem mount are you using for the Karoo 3 (in the quick overview)?

@mikeshacklock6208 3 ай бұрын

Thx 4 review. Noticed your studio lav mic audio sounds really muffled/dull/poor. Is it on the way out? Certainly sounds like that needs a quality upgrade ;-)

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, been meaning to have a more static setup for a while. On the to-do list to buy.

@tankredworst 2 ай бұрын

Does swiping the page with the new SRAM red axis "bonus buttons" also works with the Karoo 2? (I have a Karoo 2 and consider getting a SRAM.)

@rhenceocampo3253 2 ай бұрын

Pass. I’ll wait until Wahoo releases a solar Bolt or Roam.

@cdw2023 3 ай бұрын

Thanks, Ray. Great stuff! - Does the Karoo 3 also offer something along the lines of Garmin Power Course? I.e., I go for an endurance ride in the Alps. I wanna cycle according to predefined power intervals based on Best Bike Splits. So, I hit a a climb and the device gives me the target power for that interval and compares to the actual power.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately nothing like that.

@voegelm 2 ай бұрын

Soria Climb is so great!

@ak4good 11 күн бұрын

It seems like maps can be loaded on the Karoo directly on the unit itself? This is far better than I've been dealing with using the buggy ass Garmin Express PC app. Also the 64GB of storage on the Karoo is far better than the measly 16GB on my Garmin Explore 2. Unless Garmin can improve map management, it's time to switch to Hammerhead.

@marcelgreiner2844 3 ай бұрын

Am I the only one missing a power data field on the Climb Pro/Climber? I mean, isn't the beauty of seeing the gradient so that you can pace yourself accordingly? If they would change it, seems like every feature is better working than on my 1040 ...

@spinnekopje 3 ай бұрын

choose which sensors to use in a profile.. Garmin, are you listening? Please add the option to select per activity..

@tonyg3091 3 ай бұрын

Hope this will push Garmin to improve on the Edge and yeah, release the 1050 already

@karsten4689 3 ай бұрын

Cadence app for the win!

@lidarman2 3 ай бұрын

I'm with you on the Karoo 3 being faster but just to ask the question. Could low battery make the 2 throttle back? 7% is really low....Also you might have been joking but it is 5 seconds per mile for thunder so that strike was just over a mile.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Nah, I tried with both full battery and not. Same results.

@zacharybishop 3 ай бұрын

Does Karoo 3 allow for any Mountain Bike specific mapping? In particular, Trailforks or MTB Project? There are some (OLD) posts in reddit where users stated side-loading these apps gives an error as they could not obtain the needed GPS permissions on the device. This is why I still use Garmin.

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

Sadly not.

@chrismoore1182 2 ай бұрын

I use FatMap by Strava to find Strava routes for trails and then upload them to Karoo 3 webpage dashboard. Works perfectly.

@LovingMidLife 3 ай бұрын

Just curious, do you know if the phone companion app is opening the door to allow an Apple Watch to be the heart rate sensor?

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

They could absolutely do this. Whether or not SRAM chooses to go through that door, I don't know. But yeah, it'd be nice if they did.

@hamilton237 3 ай бұрын

Title typo intentional?

@kac78 2 ай бұрын

Hello, I have a question whether roam v2 works with ebike?I can't find information anywhere whether it will connect to my bike. I'm fed up with Garmin and want something new.

@ceeskes412 3 ай бұрын

Notification thing is a real bummer for me .....pleas update the karoo 3 please

@Mistadonthecyclist 3 ай бұрын

DC can you show a screen recording tutorial?

@JohannesBergsma-fe7tf 3 ай бұрын

Thannks for the video, question regarding the shimano topic, so you cant see your shifting as of now but can you connect to the power meter so you can see how much watt you're doing?

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Correct.

@klaxxon__ 3 ай бұрын

They really need to add volume slider. I already disabled radar beeps on K2 because I sounded like a ticking bomb when riding around in the city.

@ralphcole674 3 ай бұрын

Crickey, I always want my K2 to be louder. Can't hear varia alerts especially at speed, due to wind noise.

@lee1987923 3 ай бұрын

Do you have same issue GPS signal picks up few mins later right after booting? I just received mango mango and it stays pause for 3 to 5 mins even after starting ride if it is right after booting. :(

@rhenceocampo3253 2 ай бұрын

Hey Hammerhead we’re smart. We see through the marketing-bs. It’s definitely Karoo 3

@marcusthebeast2570 3 ай бұрын

Karoo is a nice piece of tech, so far have gen1 and gen2 and love both. Would love to see addition of solar charging to reduce dependency on usb socket for bikepacking. To be truly revolutionary i would like someone come up with something similar to rabbit a1 - "karoo, check the weather and plan for me 70k ride with two coffee stop, i want to be home by 10" - that would be a revolution!

@ZotmundSzele 3 ай бұрын

I'm going to ask it here from you and your audience: why can no head unit (Garmins, Wahoos, Karoos) simply handle via point and detours? If I have a route - preplanned or just point and click generated - I'd love to add a 3rd point in the middle. These devices just stop the current route and generate the new route. I know these are mainly bike computers, but planning a route from A via B to C is not a lot of computing.... It's 2024, this is 2000s or 2010s stuff.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I suspect largely because very few people have asked for the feature (you're honestly the very first person in doing this for 15 years that's ever mentioned it). That combined with the companies now all support route-to features (just specifying a new endpoint), makes it less likely to need that A to C but add C concept. Just my guess.

@ZotmundSzele 3 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker But it should not be an "evil", out-of-this world requirement. It's common sense and a real life situation. I hardly ever follow a set route, I often improvise or just make detours. Imagine bike messengers getting a new address, they could chain it up to route. Of course you can stop the existing route and make a new one but being able to see a new possible route is convenient. Imagine you drive to the end of a lake and instead of taking the route back, you'd wanna go on the other side of the lake. You could then see how much longer the total route would be and then you can decide. It is just so odd. Komoot, Naviki, BikeMap and you name it - they all have it.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

@@ZotmundSzele Yeah, nobody's saying it's evil. I'm just saying that it's literally never a requirement I've heard someone ask for (which, happens all the time). I agree the bike messenger case, but most messengers wouldn't likely use a head unit because getting addresses to it tends to be clumsy (even with the sending right now), as well as the map UI tends to be much slower than Google Maps for zooming/validating/etc..

@ZotmundSzele 3 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker I didn't want to overestimate this feature and I'm actually surprised not many people need this (at least according to your experience). It's so obvious to me and having this feature would make these devices one notch less clumsy, in my opinion. (especially that mounting phones, charging them, being less compact and weather proof is often a concern when it comes to bike computers vs phone navigation). Maybe it'll come one day. Thanks for your reflection on this.

@teunluijbregts2533 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review 👍 Based on this, I think I need a new pair of shoes more urgently so will be looking for those first and from what’s left maybe a Chinese nav unit.

@CarlosHernandez-zr5cz 9 күн бұрын

Do you guys think a used K2 for $150 is a good deal today?

@Ultra-Craig 3 ай бұрын

Any news on the website? Have HH developed any metrics or do you still have to sign up with Strava or Training Peaks to do any analysis?

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

No metrics or such.

@Ultra-Craig 3 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker thanks for that. It’s a real shame - I tried a K2 and loved the unit over a Garmin but the complete lack of any analytics killed it for me, if only SRAM would spend a bit of money on the 1997-grade website I’d be on their gear in a heartbeat

@rickeverett3304 2 ай бұрын

I’d like my display to include: heartrate, incline, map directions, speed and Time of day, is that possible?

@deejayepidemic 3 ай бұрын

Can the karoo Sync to Apple Health? Other Computer Wahoo and Garmin can this

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

No, not at this point.

@BikesBlades 2 ай бұрын

7:27 7 seconds is about 7000 feet, or 1.33 miles. I don't think you can hear thunder at 7 miles; that would be a 37 second delay.

@ralphcole674 3 ай бұрын

Good on the louder chirps. Better to hear Varia alerts. Rain touch screen wasnt great. The K2 is really good so if K3 is better, cant complain. Better than my 830 for sure.

@danielwill8934 2 ай бұрын

Can you please tell me what data gets synced to Strava?

@yllekkram 3 ай бұрын

Think there is a small error @2.30. video skips a bit there

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Thanks, will tweak!

@mllobetc 3 ай бұрын

question.... might be a dumb one, but I'd appreciate someone (or @DCRainmaker himself? :) ) anwering it. If one has a Garmin smartwatch and gets this New Karoo model, is it possible to use it for the Garmin bike workouts, etc.? or is this something only available and specfic to Garmin GPS bike computers?

@cantonrc4126 3 ай бұрын

The new companion app works with the Karoo 2 to connect it to a phone with Bluetooth

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Sure, but only for notifications (just like before). Not for route sync/etc...

@Tethysmeer 3 ай бұрын

That there is no option to push routes via Bluetooth on the device makes it unusable for remote gravel and bikepacking. It's really awkward.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

@@Tethysmeer You can push via Bluetooth (I show it in the video), but it requires internet connectivity as it syncs it briefly with backend servers.

@martinvoss7925 3 ай бұрын

just to be sure... does this mean that third party is open from Sram side now ? meaning that i can control my edge unit with axs blippers ?

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

Yes, correct. Wahoo already released theirs, and Garmin is coming very very soon.

@cathalkenneally1614 Ай бұрын

A lot of people downloaded the companion app without realising it’s only compatible with the new Karoo 3.

@Dcrainmaker Ай бұрын

Yeah - I was pretty clear here it only worked with the Karoo 3 (aside from the previous version which assisted for text messages).

@stephanstieglair5234 3 ай бұрын

Still waiting to buy a bike computer with borderless screen. Will there ever be a manufacturer doing this...?

@exploring_thailand 3 ай бұрын

Are they not gathering data from their own units to add to the Suunto heatmaps?

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Not at this point.

@slawomirkorbas 3 ай бұрын

Is it possible to upload routes from Garmin Connect? Or there is an alternative app for route planing working with Karoo?

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

So I just tried one (copying the URL from Garmin Connect into the Hammerhead route builder site, which usually works for other sites). No luck. You could though just export out the routes and re-import the files. Kinda a PITA, but it does work fine.

@chrismoore1182 2 ай бұрын

I use FatMap by Strava to find Strava routes and then upload the file to my Karoo website/Dashboard. Syncs really well.

@keeferification 3 ай бұрын

There are some zingers in this video.

@klaxxon__ 3 ай бұрын

The best zinger is the 46 km route with 21m ascent at 3:57, that genuinely (if perhaps unintentionally) had me rolling.

@illbeback2YT 3 ай бұрын

Decreased or increased weight?

@glenntpc7848 3 ай бұрын

Please tell me the rides now upload to Strava without having to hook up to my phone’s wireless hotspot? That’s my biggest pet peeve about the K2. Can you turn off the K3 without completing a ride (which I do at work after commuting)?

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Correct, as long as you have the companion app on your phone, it'll just use Bluetooth.

@PrzemekCT 10 күн бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker It didn't want to send it via Bluetooth. After turning on the hotspot it worked in a moment

@Dcrainmaker 10 күн бұрын

@@PrzemekCT It should have worked just fine, assuming everything is paired/setup/etc correctly (or, that the HH app is working happily at that moment). Of course, as always 'Should' is the operative word there.

@PrzemekCT 10 күн бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker ok thanks, I'll take a look. maybe it wasn't paired via bluetooth but only via wifi. yesterday was my first ride with this counter. I had the same problem with varia support. the radar works but I cannot change the light from the counter. the front ion light works flawlessly.

@SY-ve5qm 3 ай бұрын

Informative vid as always, but I am still not convinced that a dedicated bike computer is better than my phone mounted front of handlebar😊

@marvinlangert271 3 ай бұрын

Cycling Dynamics with Favero Assioma MX-2 ???

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

No cycling dynamics (for any units).

@WszystkoKrytykuje Ай бұрын

H3 or 1050 for maps?

@sunshinecycling Ай бұрын

So, Karoo 3 or 1050?

@Chris-pt6hh 3 ай бұрын

Touch screens are awful to use while cycling, especially during cold weather. Can this be used with only button presses?

@ffmdotcom 3 ай бұрын

The Karoo 2 can be used with buttons only. At least 99% of the time. The new version should do the same.

@bl8danjil 2 ай бұрын

3:20 Mango Mango 😂

@user-go8vx7zq8m 2 ай бұрын

looks like disabling of auto re-route is still not supported in new Karoo, a simple software update, yet not supported. Additionally, it does not support POI listing and searching of address directly on bike computer. If this is based on Android costing 475 USD, such features should be supported. Cost of bike computer is going up and up and upgrades are not much.

@Dcrainmaker 2 ай бұрын

Apparently you can kinda-sorta do this by selecting the option titled 'Breadcrumb', which won't re-route you. Though, I don't think it gives TBT either. Need to try it.

@user-go8vx7zq8m 2 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Spoke with Karoo support team. Disabling of auto re-route is in works. One of the upcoming software updates might support this feature.

@il_DonGelato 3 ай бұрын

No POI Lists, no POI Management, no contourlines, maps still not detailled enough. I stay with karoo 2. Sad, that hammerhead doesnt listen to the Community.

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

POI’s show up on both device and website, are do you mean something else?

@il_DonGelato 3 ай бұрын

@@Dcrainmaker Same on karoo2. I need POI Management Like on the Garmins. You have offline POI lists there, for example shelters, workshops, Restaurants. And every POI you save appears in a list. Hammerheads Global POIs are similar. Can you at least make a POI global on the device now without the Dashboard?

@2357kd 3 ай бұрын

Please fix the title from Karoo 2 to Karoo 3

@edgonzalez32 3 ай бұрын

or else what

@Dcrainmaker 3 ай бұрын

Doh. Mango!

@JibbaJabber 3 ай бұрын

@@DcrainmakerMango Mango Mango

@ralphcole674 3 ай бұрын

Details, details

@lisashiela9137 3 ай бұрын

Did the k3 gain some additional girth? Any wind tunnel specifications and/or drag coefficient available, Cd = D / (A * .5 * r * V^2), (non-dimensional drag)?