Yeah but the rest of that file also has ELEMENT_ROAM_2

Ray just leaked a new Roam..

iN Ray's depth review of roamV2 he mentioned a battery life 17h in 2022 AND today in this review we can see an estimation of 30h of battery life.... I have no doubt

also on the next slide of this review ; roamV2 has a est. battery life 30h...it's not true...

Just a 'filenames' hiccup!

Mango mango!

Still cheaper than a Garmin Edge 840

​@@glipglop1😂

Good to hear! Yeah, never once in my life have I considered K3 tied to that. Very odd.

Asian American... Ditto. The only explanation I can think of is that someone over there is spending a little too much time in the deep end of the internet if they think K3 has that type of association. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

That’s because it is not associated , lol

Better safe than sorry. Everyone, including myself, is easily triggered these days. For example, DC Rainmaker was triggered and called the computer "K-3" instead of Karoo. Just because you're not offended doesn't mean others aren't. Remember what happened to Bud Light.

Haha, depending on which device you’re on, said oops is already gone! 🤣

K2 is already not around, lol. Well, not new anyway.

Coming up next!

@@Dcrainmakeri too am eagerly awaiting. I received the k3 this weekend but with the current drop of price on the 1040 - I’m having serious doubts I have the right unit in my hands :-). I donrun an AXS etap group set but I suspect it pairs to garmin fine.

@@Xyzlor Almost done. Things got out of hand. I kept adding more and more sections...

Nothing wrong with that :-)

@@Xyzlor same thought-the Garmins are discounted and compelling. For me I’m torn coming down to the UI. The Karoo is taunting me especially sending a location from phone to the bike 🤯 but really interested in gravel and mtn bike ride data feedback which don’t know how Karoo does in that area

Unfortunately the Compsnion app doesn’t work with the K2 due to “hardware limitations” yet other mfgrrs still have their older models working with their companion apps. Just another company trying to get their consumers to spend $475+ on a new unit when in all reality all it takes is a simple firmware/software update for it to work on the K2.

Yup, I cover it in my comparison video. Both Wahoo & Hammerhead do it.

Exactly. There is nothing in the new verison that would be worth of 500€.

The changes are so minor - looking at the tech they used, it looks like they actually did a few costs cuts compared to the release of Karoo 2 and slapped a $500 price tag on it.

@@aliancemd indeed, this is definitely not worth $500€

I suspect they will separate the Karoo 2 and 3 in the coming updates. There is a fairly big difference between android 8 and 12.

This is all for new device shopping. I'm not going to ditch my K2 for a K3 .

+2h = +500$ powerbank 10$ +20H

I often did too. Having the power button broken out now really helps. That said, I commented I still think having actual etching on the buttons would help/be better.

It's definiteley a lot better with the Karoo, in terms of teh buttons are clearer/sharper edges.

Yeah, been meaning to have a more static setup for a while. On the to-do list to buy.

Unfortunately nothing like that.

It's a new device review. I'm not going to replace my K2 or 830 with a K3 anytime soon.

@@ralphcole674 I also didn’t sell my 1030 because of the map and battery for long trips in unknown areas. For navigating on tour I don‘t like the Karoo. But if I only do follow-the-line with a planned route, I like it much more…especially rerouting works great.

The typing-in of addresses has been a staple of Garmin. From the Edge 705 onwards...

Sorry, missed this. It does allow an address typing in - but it requires an internet connection. It also provides the exact name of the road.

Sadly not.

Correct.

really?

Yes

Have a bad hearing. I use the Karoo combined with a Garmin Varia. I always have to keep an eye on my Karoo, not to miss a car from behind.

is it better? How? I am in a m market for a new bike computer and thinking about Karoo 2/explore 2 OR 1040 maybe

@@qwer55555555 by far imho. Just a LOT smoother, better menus, better routing, better strava live segments even, funnily enough even better Garmin Radar control which should be better on Garmin. So all-around better for me

@@chmart Thank You!

@@qwer55555555 you can find h2 for 150-200$ which is a bargain. For this price it is ahead better than 840 if you ask me. Only the battery is an obvious cons for h2. You need to charge it after each training.

​@@qwer55555555get yourself a Garmin 840 or a 1030 plus... you'd thank yourself later

Nah, I tried with both full battery and not. Same results.

No metrics or such.

@@Dcrainmaker thanks for that. It’s a real shame - I tried a K2 and loved the unit over a Garmin but the complete lack of any analytics killed it for me, if only SRAM would spend a bit of money on the 1997-grade website I’d be on their gear in a heartbeat

They could absolutely do this. Whether or not SRAM chooses to go through that door, I don't know. But yeah, it'd be nice if they did.

I wait for a couple of months

Is that a real issue the notification thing or was i once ?

Correct, as long as you have the companion app on your phone, it'll just use Bluetooth.

No, not at this point.

So I just tried one (copying the URL from Garmin Connect into the Hammerhead route builder site, which usually works for other sites). No luck. You could though just export out the routes and re-import the files. Kinda a PITA, but it does work fine.

Ahh...so roughly divide by 5 for miles, and by two for kilometers (with a fudge factor). Huh...well...guess it got a bit close.

I normally have physiologic reminders for refueling and rehydrating. A timer would suffice for race reminders.

Not at this point.

Yes, correct. Wahoo already released theirs, and Garmin is coming very very soon.

buy some speakers and subwoofer and pair it via bluetooth on the karoo 2 for less money

Thanks, will tweak!

The Karoo 2 can be used with buttons only. At least 99% of the time. The new version should do the same.

Sure, but only for notifications (just like before). Not for route sync/etc...

That there is no option to push routes via Bluetooth on the device makes it unusable for remote gravel and bikepacking. It's really awkward.

@@Tethysmeer You can push via Bluetooth (I show it in the video), but it requires internet connectivity as it syncs it briefly with backend servers.

Crickey, I always want my K2 to be louder. Can't hear varia alerts especially at speed, due to wind noise.

Yeah, I suspect largely because very few people have asked for the feature (you're honestly the very first person in doing this for 15 years that's ever mentioned it). That combined with the companies now all support route-to features (just specifying a new endpoint), makes it less likely to need that A to C but add C concept. Just my guess.

@@Dcrainmaker But it should not be an "evil", out-of-this world requirement. It's common sense and a real life situation. I hardly ever follow a set route, I often improvise or just make detours. Imagine bike messengers getting a new address, they could chain it up to route. Of course you can stop the existing route and make a new one but being able to see a new possible route is convenient. Imagine you drive to the end of a lake and instead of taking the route back, you'd wanna go on the other side of the lake. You could then see how much longer the total route would be and then you can decide. It is just so odd. Komoot, Naviki, BikeMap and you name it - they all have it.

@@ZotmundSzele Yeah, nobody's saying it's evil. I'm just saying that it's literally never a requirement I've heard someone ask for (which, happens all the time). I agree the bike messenger case, but most messengers wouldn't likely use a head unit because getting addresses to it tends to be clumsy (even with the sending right now), as well as the map UI tends to be much slower than Google Maps for zooming/validating/etc..

@@Dcrainmaker I didn't want to overestimate this feature and I'm actually surprised not many people need this (at least according to your experience). It's so obvious to me and having this feature would make these devices one notch less clumsy, in my opinion. (especially that mounting phones, charging them, being less compact and weather proof is often a concern when it comes to bike computers vs phone navigation). Maybe it'll come one day. Thanks for your reflection on this.

No cycling dynamics (for any units).

Mango Mango!!! 🥭🥭

The best zinger is the 46 km route with 21m ascent at 3:57, that genuinely (if perhaps unintentionally) had me rolling.

Roubaix SL8 Gloss Taupe/Gunmetal Strata/Charcoal

Yup! Specifically: S-Works Roubaix SL8 - SRAM RED AXS: www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-roubaix-sl8--sram-red-axs/p/4275485?color=5432474-4275485

Outdate? 😂😂 U kidding right?

Not sure how either is outdated at this point. Both still have far more features than Hammerhead.

@@playmoreguitar5393 I’ve purchased recently 840 - it is slow, horrible screen colours, sometimes it is hard to see what it’s showing, rerouting is slow and unreliable, to change something on the go it’s a big fight with the UI and freezes, to add some additional fields to navigation screen I need to install basically small tool from independent developer. Interface is frustrating and sometimes not logical for a newcomer - I still struggle how to finish ride and which button or screen touch do it. Swipe gestures is a joke, I can’t read incoming messages while riding, map update process can be like 8 hours or fast, Di2 controls have 1-2 second delay. And this is what I found out only using it for 1 month. Being a long time user of Fenix series watches I was expecting way more from it. But while I was riding with watches as a bike computer I kinda was realising that it’s a watch, but after getting a separate device I got basically the same but slower companion.

@@Dcrainmaker maybe for pros, but for me it’s slow, rerouting is not even close to something usable and transparent (like google maps) etc., UI is still way more focused on buttons, maybe it’s my first month impression, but being a garmin watches fan I was quite disappointed after getting this for its price tag (840). But thank you, I appreciate your feedback. Will dig deeper with 840 and maybe something will prove that it is worth to keep it.

​@@kartografist100% with you. I bought the 840 only to immediately return it because the screen reminded me too much of my now-very-old 520. I can't believe how little the technology has progressed with bike computers compared to phones over the same time period. I'm not spending 400+ on this garbage.

Apparently you can kinda-sorta do this by selecting the option titled 'Breadcrumb', which won't re-route you. Though, I don't think it gives TBT either. Need to try it.

@@Dcrainmaker Spoke with Karoo support team. Disabling of auto re-route is in works. One of the upcoming software updates might support this feature.

or else what

Doh. Mango!

​@@DcrainmakerMango Mango Mango

Details, details

That takes the fun out of it!

@@Dcrainmaker but you can make it your “Rain simulator” 😆

Yeah, honestly, no idea who needs that either. But then the next comment I'll get will be from someone that wants to see the cue sheet like the old days.