Hammers and Dice Podcast EP4 - Reviewing Two Years of Horus Heresy 2.0

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Hammers And Dice

Hammers And Dice

27 күн бұрын

It's been two years since the release of the second edition of Horus Heresy and we do a deep dive into what works, what doesn't and what we're hoping to see going forward. Let us know what you think in the comments! And don't forget to subscribe and like for more Heresy content!!

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@hammersanddice
@hammersanddice 4 күн бұрын
Here's a link to download a PDF of the mission we discuss in the episode! drive.google.com/file/d/1mhE1i0jrCAMfZPPUwl1ElpXss-oDwiou/view?usp=sharing
@OrangeD3x
@OrangeD3x 5 күн бұрын
No Rite of War is an option and there are the core Rites of War. Also, the Legiones Astartes(Ultramarines) rule applies to any *model* shooting at a target another friendly unit with it shoots at it. Ultramarines tanks benefit and confer the benefit to others. Edit: Recommend putting a link to a DropBox or Google Doc PDF version of the mission.
@hammersanddice
@hammersanddice 4 күн бұрын
@@OrangeD3x thanks for the feedback! you’re absolutely right, there are some other great options for running the ultramarines! Our intent here was to comment on the disparity in available legion specific rights of war, but we can get a bit caught up in the moment sometimes! Regarding the ultramarines legion rule, you’re correct. we were talking about the logos lectura benefits specifically only being able to be utilized by infantry and how that encourages infantry heavy lists. And yes, I will get a PDF of the mission posted soon!
@paulyg405
@paulyg405 24 күн бұрын
hey guys, enjoying the podcast! TBH I think it's very unlikely there'd be a major new edition of Heresy, invalidating all the books everyone just bought would push people away. Maybe like the shift from 3rd to 4th edition, or even less than that, more like a big FAQ and a new book with that incorporated, for people who don't wanna carry a big FAQ around with their old book. Points values and legion rules is where it gets tricky.. opens up a broader chat about how a living ruleset should be managed. I'd rather get a PDF with the new points and wait for Battlescribe to be updated than buy a new liber book and I reckon most people would feel the same.
@hammersanddice
@hammersanddice 24 күн бұрын
We agree! We've heard some rumors, but yeah, we're hoping that it's a big FAQ with points adjustments rather than full new books. Either way, I think we'll have at least another year or so of the current edition.
@paulyg405
@paulyg405 24 күн бұрын
@@hammersanddice for sure, I think some ppl commentating in the community probably overstate where Heresy is at for GW, I'm sure it's making a fat profit but that doesn't mean they've got the time or the budget to start cranking out new editions every 3 years!
@fenris6051
@fenris6051 19 күн бұрын
I don't get why people complain about new versions of games, if you don't want to play 3.0 for example find other players willing to play 2.0, just because a new edition is released doesn't mean you are forced to get it. I am still building 1-3 ed. 40k armies, have very little interest in the last 2-3 versions of 40k, so I don't waste time on painting models I'm not interested in nor waste money on rules for something I don't want to play.
@hammersanddice
@hammersanddice 19 күн бұрын
Totally fair! We hope that if/when a new edition comes out, the ruleset won't go the way of the recent 40k editions, if it does, I think a lot of us would rather stick to the 2.0 rules.
@fenris6051
@fenris6051 18 күн бұрын
@@hammersanddice - Indeed, of cause I never count out new editions, but found out preordering 40k like I used to isn't a wise thing to do anymore, way better to wait 6-12 months and then see what people on youtube/forums say. :)
@hammersanddice
@hammersanddice 17 күн бұрын
@@fenris6051agreed!
@JackD-z7v
@JackD-z7v 19 күн бұрын
This sounds like a 40k podcast. Saying that units arent worth their points is a very competitive 40k mindset. Please leave heresy to rule of cool and go back to 40k plz
@hammersanddice
@hammersanddice 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Our intention has never been to approach heresy with a 40k mindeset. We have spoken quite a bit in our episodes about specifically making an effort to avoid playing with more 'gamey' lists so that heresy games feel more fun than competitive. In this episode, we spoke about points within the context of reviewing the ups and the downs of this edition of the game. There are units across the legions that are at a similar power level, but the points it costs for those units vary drastically in some instances. I think it's fair to say that there can be some disappointment in a game when a 'rule of cool' unit gets crushed by a unit that's almost half the points. Our point was that in the future we'd love to see a points adjustment so that people aren't punished quite so much for taking some of those units.
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