The children later stated that it nonsense and it was the mothers then boyfriend, the known child abuser Abraham Christie, who actually abused them. Abraham Christie already had 37 convictions for child abuse, drug offences, violence and dishonesty. You do "believe the children" when they later stated that a known child abuser tortured them into making the false allegations, yes?

Or you could get the facts from the court document available online. Ella Draper and her then boyfriend Abraham Christie tortured the kids into lying. He was already a child abuser with a long criminal record. Maybe read the facts?

@Anthony-iu8wu You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped you in the face screaming, "I am a fact". You would have handed the children back to their actual abusers, their mother and her child abusing boyfriend who tortured them into lying.

correct!

You sound like you think this was all justified

This,..From a Book Review. CONFIRMED.100% ELLA GAREEVA WAS TELLING THE TRUTH IN POLYGRAPH TEST I have always believed Ella Gareeva and her beautiful Children and now proof positive, that Ella was telling the truth. Polygraph testing is 99.9% accurate. Much as the Satanists and trolls try to discredit the truth as it is certainly not in their evil interests for them to be found out. But funny thing. Truth has a way of eventually being heard. When are good people going to stand up and say, enough is enough. All Children need to be protected from this Satanist, evilness that is going on, as I write. Everyone should watch this and share as widely as possible. Well overdue for real justice to be done and for Ella to have her children returned to her.

Nope. That video is hilarious. The guy who conducted it is a known fraudster, polygraphs are pseudoscience that even the FBI won't touch (despite what you've seen in the movies) and even funnier is that at one point in the video, the polygraph shows that Ella's lying! But it's academic, as Ella wasn't a witness to the alleged events anyway and she never claimed to be 🤣

Ella Draper paid for the polygraph. She paid to get the result she wanted in a heavily edited video. It was made for gullible people like you @Mario36724 The rest of your comment is nonsense.

She "passed" a lie detector test that she organised and filmed herself. Let's not also ignore the fact that lie detectors are not admissible in UK courts, they are not considered reliable evidence anyway. The claims were investigated, and no truth to found in any of the claims.

Could not agree more

@@keelydeasy5557 Even though it's factually incorrect on every single count? Weird

Absolutely!! Clearly, at best, the police didn't investigate the claims made. How can she be told the case is closed while she is a key named person in the case. Wasn't it important to hear her side of the story before closing the case?

@@Anthony-iu8wu Because the police already knew the allegations were false. Ella Draper's then boyfriend, Abraham Christie, was a known child abuser. Coincidentally the officer interviewing the children had dealt with Christie's pervious child abuse case, it must have been a real shock to Christie when he found that little gem out, likely why he did a runner abroad to avoid arrest again. The police do not investigate people when they know an allegation is false. It helps if you know the basics of the case before commenting...

The claims were investigated when the children first made their statements. The police first looks at the locations where the children claimed these events took place, but nothing married up. 3 days after the initial statements, the children admitted they had been coached to lie. Sadly the videos were later released by a conspiracy nut supporting the mother on to social media, at this point all those implicated were exposed

@@Anthony-iu8wu the claims were demonstrably false, early investigations revealed this, as did the children's subsequent testimony, so the majority of those on the list would have been left alone, but were later exposed when conspiracy nuts leaked the recordings online

It was more than being "called something". Having to sleep on the floor next to your child's bed every night due to Internet stalkers threatening to kidnap them because they know where you live, is more than being "called something". If you think I am exaggerating, then you are so wrong. One of the many people involved in this hoax was Wilfred Wong who was later jailed for kidnaping a child from another hoax. From the news: "Anke Hill and Wilfred Wong snatched the child from their foster carer as they arrived home from school. Hill wrestled the child from their car seat and them in a waiting car, while Wong held a knife to the foster carer's throat before slashing one of the carer's tyres to prevent them from following. Hill was jailed for 14 years and five months while Wong was given a 17-year jail sentence. Hill was told she had manipulated others into joining with her to kidnap the child, while Wong was told by the judge "you still have a clear under-lying belief in these accusations". He was given a concurrent sentence of two years and six months for possession of a bladed weapon." Never underestimate crazy people online. They will come to your home and they will carry out their threats on your family.

Their father took them to America, I doubt he'd let them talk about it.

@@catedinburgh4824 It was 10 years ago, they are adults and can talk as they wish. Maybe they don't want to entertain the conspiratards.

@@JackBurton-qp4hc Creepy Dearman probably keeps them like prisoners. They didn't look happy to be with him the last pictures I saw.

@@catedinburgh4824the last video i seen of them with their father, the kids looked out of it. I can’t remember if it was an interview or some sort of advert.

@@mahoganysoul1798 Yes, I can't remember what it was either. The three of them at some event.

Utter nonsense. Them being adult now proves that it was a hoax otherwise they would be saying otherwise.

So you are saying that as the children are now adults, they are remaining quiet about all this? Yeah sure! Cool story bro! I'm going with, they are adults now and want to put all this hoax behind them and are getting on with their lives. They probably don't want nuts like you tracking them down.

@@JackBurton-qp4hc I say that now that they are adults, they should be given the opportunity to tell their stories. If it was just a hoax, then telling it will bring relief to many, if not, the case must be reopened and the culprits who are alive caught. Things like this never get old.

@@zed351 It could also be that they have been taken deeper into the darkness and since it has been allowed to continue for a long time without anyone interfering with it, they have become accustomed to it. It has kind of become normal to them. It would be good to give them a chance to tell their story, however it may be, so that the case can be closed once and for all.

@@user-vt2up9uj1e Or it could be as the court found, it was the mother Ella Draper and her then boyfriend Abraham Christie who is a known child abuser!!! So you know anything about this case and the people involved? It appears not!

They admitted to the police they lied for their mother’s boyfriend because HE was the one actually abusing them!!!

@katehibs No you do not believe the children. They said that the known child abuser, Abraham Christie, tortured them into making the false allegations. YOU don't believe them.

We believe the children, they were part of a satanic covern in London hampstead, unwillingly. We believe the children, they and countless other children were and are still being abused.

@@Charlotte-kv7yu You would have handed these children back to their actual abusers, Abraham Christie and their mother, Ella Draper.

You're deluded

Her eye malfunctions at 5.48mins too!

So when the children said it was Ella Draper's then boyfriend, Abraham Christie, who tortured them into making the false allegations over several weeks in Morocco, you don't believe them? I mean the guy was only a known child abuser and had 37 convictions for child abuse, drug offences, violence and dishonesty. But YOU don't believe the children when they said he tortured them, right? You think it was their father, not Abraham Christie, a *KNOWN CHILD ABUSER* yeah?

@@zed351you’re making the same comment and I’ve seen this same sort of denial on comet ping pong pizza gate videos very fishy

@@Katehikes14 they're probably paid to do it. I believe the children.

@@denizislek5304 No you don't. They are literally telling us that a *KNOWN CHILD ABSUER* tortured them. *YOU* don't believe them.

You don't sound mental at all...

😂

😂😂😂😂😂

Did you think she was super hairy?

As it her right to protest her identity.

@@CatsJP Why would she want to protest her ID? 😂

So you don't believe the children when they stated that the known child abuser Abraham Christie tortured them?

​@@JackBurton-qp4hc of course not. Why would I, when the retractions are completely illegitimate (the boy tries to confirm his original story 7 times and an appeal against the retractions was upheld by the iopc). Now, please can you answer my questions?

@@peacefulwarchief3961 "of course not. Why would I" Because a *KNOWN CHILD ABUSER* is the one that *TORTURED* them into making the false allegations. The children are literally telling you that a *KNOWN CHILD ABUSER* made them say it. *YOU DON'T BELIEVE THE CHILDREN*

The amount of spooks, stooges and agents of the state, that try to troll/discredit the children is bonkers & would be humorous if not so serious! They seem to appear & scuttle around the comments sections etc, like demented rats on a sinking ship, continuously drinking from the poisoned chalice that is this case. This is because anyone who tries to cover up this case, not only exposes themselves as agents of this darkness, but also in the process compound their own demise, by revealing the cover up to millions of new light bearing souls!

​​​@@JackBurton-qp4hc​​@JackBurton-qp4hc please read my post properly "the retractions are completely illegitimate (the boy tries to confirm his original story 7 times and appeal against the retractions was upheld by the iopc!".... In other words, you're talking absolute twaddle!

It would be someone on the TM team... and pretty poor form on their part

probably an actress don't think it's actually her

Maybe because anxious during interview

That's the actress in the thumbnail

The thumbnail is an actress in the TV show!

Which is the excuse used to burn witches.

So if you were accused of a crime, but innocent, you would still be guilty because no smoke without fire, right? Are you really that naive?

Conspiracy theories can be horrific most of the times

If the real criminal case has been suppressed for years by the authority despite multiple pieces of evidence, don't you think this is also horrifying? Why this mother (Ella) has to fight for her abused children for so many years despite all sorts of smear campaigns has been going on by major media? What is the benefit of doing this? The real mother can only fight for the truth and justice. If you have power, you can go onto major media easily and create as many as cover-up stories. Ella's pleas on videos are respectful, and well presented the nature of the crimes against children in this country. She is fighting for not only her own children, but also many other children whose voices were supressed. I saw the documentary made by Channel 4 and shocked to see how many F words came out of a mother's mouth (even if they are actress, I was speechless). The documentary looked well crafted for Ella's smear campaign. That's how I interpreted it.

Doesn’t justify destroying an innocent person’s life

Why are you defending someone who literally tried to ruin someone else's life?

Not only 175 families and childrens lives but also her own two children. Cant imagine what the families went though being falsely accused.

@mblackman6627 Ella Draper? The woman that went along with her then boyfriend Abraham Christie and *TORTURED* her children into lying? She literally allowed a known child abuser to move in with her kids!

​@@beepboop9464 I'm confused, please enlighten me! If the official story is true, why would the mother coach the children to describe tattoos and birthmarks on the suspects, which could of been instantly disproved by a simple physical examination? Why did NONE of them go in and allow the police to put the whole story to bed, instead of crying about it all these years later? Also, why after the Dr at the police station found evidence of the abuse on the children's bodies, was a full investigation of the father not immediately started (this was before any of the fake retractions, of which incidentally the boy actually tries to confirm the original story 7 times and an appeal against the retractions was upheld by the iopc !). I remember playing a game in drama class at school, called "alibi game" which would prove that it is very difficult for 2 stories to corroborate if you are lying. These 2 children told the exact same story with many many details.

​@peacefulwarchief3961 well said, I believe the children 👏

I hope this woman ☝️ (@katehibs) is never on anyone’s jury panel 🤦🏻‍♂️

@@andyb3666 😂

Dad took the kids and ran to the USA Los Angeles, 4 years later dad won an award in the states an eBay kids product award (slim), it's on KZfaq (Google Ricky dearman new name or Ricky dearman award winning). In his award winning speech his daughter who was then 12yrs old is pregnant and clearly visible, she tries to hide it but anyone can tell and the morning sickness she was suffering was visible in her face too. Their father is a sicko. They kids aren't lying. A lot of people here in North London know the father personally.. we are not in shock at all.

They aren't children, they are adults. If they wanted to refute this, they can do.

@@TrovENT "his daughter who was then 12yrs old is pregnant and clearly visible" Get a grip.

What a sad life he must have posting the real names of this innocent woman, and that of her child, who's lives have been utterly devastated by this hoax. Stick to uploading your trainspotting videos Scott.

@@JackBurton-qp4hc "What a sad life he must have..." Well yeah, he's a train spotter. The proof is right there on his channel how sad his life is.

@@JackBurton-qp4hcshut up stop intimidating me

@@random6809how dare you insult me

The question is why have they brought it up again It can only be for some sort of satanic mocking ritual

Yep CD uk.on sat mornings missed her!

@@JoyJazz14 Same :-)

Stating the facts is not trolling. What you are doing IS trolling though. Irony.

Erm, it was an actress in what you saw...

Use VPN

The test she paid for to get the result she wanted...

It did go to court in March 2015! How do you think we know that it was actually the mother, Ella Draper, and her then boyfriend, Abraham Christie? The Christie that was a *known child abuser* having 37 convictions for child abuse, drug offences, violence and dishonesty.

Get a grip.

U got proof....

@LB-ex8xz You are making a good job of being a fool though.

​​@@philipjohnkaye88902 witness testimonies, Dr reports confirming abuse, distinguishing tattoos and birthmarks on private areas of the suspects described (not investigated or debunked by voluntary physical examinations). How's that for starters?

its ok mate, these conspiracy theorist have clearly gone to the part in their brains that has an echo when sensible folk engage them in their weirdness@@philipjohnkaye8890

exactly

The investigation by the police was closed before the medical examination report came back... A complaint to the IPCC by the mother claiming the police did not complete a thorough investigation was upheld

There is a video of a former police interrogator campaigning for and supporting these claims by the children.

Why doesn't it make sense? They used actors to protect the real people's identities.

The 2 young children were told to say what they said by the parents at the time. They've since explained they were told to tell those stories despite them being untrue.

Their step father beat them, bullied them into repeating his words and had done similar with previous step children.

​@lizbutler9108 The poor little boy had a significant injury to his ear that was inflicted by his step father who coerced the children to make these apauling allegations. Ironically he was using his step children to spread and perpetuate the hoax but, he was the one abusing his step children. I think the mothers and families have shown incredible resilience in the face of a living nightmare.

As already said, the kids were abused into telling the stories. There's recordings of the step dad coaching them. He also did it begore to another partners kids. The parents have to stay anonymous because there are still people online who actively want to harm them.

basically an echo chamber full of sock puppet accounts talking twaddle lolz.

@@peacefulwarchief3961 You don't sound mental at all...

@@random6809 triggered, or butthurt?

@@peacefulwarchief3961 If you are not under the care of mental health professional, you should be.

@@peacefulwarchief3961What is wrong with you? 😂

They are conducting a very serious interview, what do you want them to do dance on the table. Grow up.

womp womp cry about it

I'm sure your personality is much better. I urge you to apply at the channel!

You wanting them to laugh about it or something 😂

I think the presenters are doing ok give them a chance . Better than Alison screeching round could you image her interviewing this lady come on

Wrong

That’s ridiculously not true. People who have been badgered to the point of mental anguish will definitely do everything in their power to stay out of the view of the public hoping it won’t happen again.

Go touch some grass

thank you.. these women are going to jail for all done to me and my children... im the one they put in my name and video... I will respond in a bit.. but well done

I am Kellie Cottam, these people put a wesbite up in my name and for my boys had to go to my maidian name.. but its me and happy ti have a face to it all