2 Modern Messiaen Moves! Mode 3 & Diminished Scale Harmony

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@jtomassi
@jtomassi 3 жыл бұрын
Great video dude, love those octatonic chords! There's one thing in the mode 3 example that seems to be slightly off. The middle set of 3 notes is shifted down by a semi-tone to the original mode, leading to an F natural which isn't part of the mode. That's why there's so much chromaticism in the melody giving it that jazz vibe.
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Joseph, You are right in your analysis of my playing. The error was in my reading and playing though and not in my score analysis. The chord I name and play as F minor is in fact an Ab Augmented 6th chord (Ab, C, F#). The accidental from the F# is carried over from earlier in the bar and I misread it as F natural whilst filming (like a donut). These things happen when the camera is on, you'll find plenty more here on the channel I'm sure! Check out the score for further clarification and you'll see it is indeed supposed to be Mode 3: E F# G G# Bb B C D D#. Thanks very much for taking the time to comment and I hope you found some value in this video despite the daft mistake! Cheers
@michaeljay9019
@michaeljay9019 3 жыл бұрын
Much needed expansion of knowledge for me. Thanks!
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
Do check out more Messiaen, absolutely mind-blowing! Cheers for taking the time to comment
@michaeljay9019
@michaeljay9019 3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition yes I've been studying him since I discovered Holdsworth in the 80s. I studied at the Grove School of Music in the late 80s and your vids are helping me relearn much. I've been using mode 3 for a long time especially as a passing tension in between chords. Or changes if tonal center or a resolution. Loving your channel and it's influence on my continuing and oft twisted journey to sculpt my own voice.
@bunchaasakit6797
@bunchaasakit6797 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome, I love sharing this stuff! Cheers
@EmilianoBez
@EmilianoBez 3 жыл бұрын
Man this video is amazing. Thanks a lot
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
Messiaen is a hero, as are you for taking the time to comment! Cheers!
@Atezian
@Atezian 3 жыл бұрын
8:37 is really juicy. Nice video :-)
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it!? Messiaen is next level. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment!
@Atezian
@Atezian 3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition it has a very film score essence about it. especially the last 3 chords
@sylwestersosniak220
@sylwestersosniak220 3 жыл бұрын
!!!
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
Messiaen is the man!
@kukumuniu5658
@kukumuniu5658 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to share my thoughts with someone In a Natural Major, the seven chords have specific functions I,iii,vi - tonic ii,IV - subdominant V,vii - dominant but what is happening in Harmonic Major? (ionian flat 6) in harmonic minor there is even worse because ionian #5 has no perfect fifth ,so, where is dominant for this mode? On vii degree or nowhere?
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, far too much theory for me ;)
@kukumuniu5658
@kukumuniu5658 3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition don't You feel an overwhelming need to investigate it? :D Almost like Luton in Discworld Noir :> Im sure that You know crazy music professors :D
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
@@kukumuniu5658 I;ve given up pulling my hair out over the nomenclature and syntax of theory. If I can play it I'm a very happy boy, regardless of whether I can correctly name it or not. Hope you're well!
@georgethompson1535
@georgethompson1535 3 жыл бұрын
When you play legato do you let ur pinkie hit the string below it. Idk if that bad or not
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
I do and I don't. It depends on the context. Dream scenario would be that every finger placement is so accurate that we don't need any muting. However in reality we need some muting here and there, especially when using distortion. I would suggest practicing it as perfectly as possible, but in the heat of the moment just do what feels right!
@MixolydianMode
@MixolydianMode 3 жыл бұрын
3:12 You said lydian mode is the brightest mode of the major scale. Ionian mode seems to be more bright to me. Could you please explain? Great lesson, thank you.
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
This is a Gary Burton idea. The Lydian is 'brighter' than Ionian as the 4th is raised or 'brightened'. I discuss this in great detail in this video is you're interested in this concept: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7aoeJScvNXJcqs.html
@MixolydianMode
@MixolydianMode 3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition Thank you very much for the explanation and the video link. Subbed.
@43veteran
@43veteran 2 жыл бұрын
Добрый день. Вы нарушили Mode3 7:18 Gb,F,E,Eb ?
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Veteran Hammer! You are right in your analysis of my playing. The error was in my reading and playing though and not in my score analysis. The chord I name and play as F minor is in fact an Ab Augmented 6th chord (Ab, C, F#). The accidental from the F# is carried over from earlier in the bar and I misread it as F natural whilst filming (like a donut). These things happen when the camera is on, you'll find plenty more here on the channel I'm sure! Check out the score for further clarification and you'll see it is indeed supposed to be Mode 3: E F# G G# Bb B C D D#. Thanks very much for taking the time to comment and I hope you found some value in this video despite the daft mistake! Cheers
@LaurenceGuitar
@LaurenceGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Lush movement!!!
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition
@CharlesHarrisonMusicTuition 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude 😎 messiaen is the boy
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