Hapkido kicks don't come from Taekwondo, but they're virtually identical to them. Hapkido is a more refined version of Hochinsool Taekwondo... kind of.

Golden Boy Your information is incorrect Sir,Hosinsool( Hoshinsul) is a part of Hapkido. Typically, Tae Kwon Do instructors often use it as a part of their self-defense curriculum.

Golden Boy And you obviously have no clue at all, and that's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard.

Mike M I'm sorry, Grandmaster Mike. Please educate me.

Hapkido worldwide Replies are unnecessary to trolls. HeavensTroll BladeMaster Forget martial arts (Which I doubt you practice considering your diverse anime channel subscriptions), you require a lesson or two in life. Stop taking advantage of his clear lack of knowledge in internet slang & your disgusting humor in rudeness.He was kind enough to cater to your rudeness regarding 'Grandmaster'. I hope you find your way to happiness in other ways than trolling/berating people (If that's even possible.)

People are taught through repetition to achieve a reaction without the thought of each motion. It becomes in a sense a natural movement to a situation you are placed in. All martial arts do this. Without repetition you can achieve it. When being taught you must be open minded. There is a saying that you can't fill a full cup.

I think you may be on to something with 'deeper stance'. Many Hapkido moves seem to 'drop-bend-knees' while stepping forward.

+Jim Reuterskiold Because to me it is never ending journey of lessons to learn more to fill my empty spaces. The color of the belt doesn't mean anything if the knowledge and skills is not sufficient enough. God Bless you Sir,

keep up on your work and dont listen to people who dont have sufficient knowledge in certain systems

Sir,I am a Korean martial artist, I wish I could be able to speak Japanese but unfortunately I am not:) I don't know any Hapkido instructor to recommend you in your area. However, soon you will see my online Hapkido class videos, you don't have to pay a dime for this. All you have to do is log on and enjoy the videos and recommend it to others. Lastly, if you don't mind please write a feedback on each video when you done watch and click " Like" if you feel it is right for you. Kahmsah Hahmnidah ( Thank you ) God bless !

Hapkido worldwide Thanks you very much for your answer master. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I know you are korean, I only used japanese to thank you in the most respectful manner we adopt in Aikido :) I will enjoy your next future videos but as I always repeat to my students, "KZfaq is a wonderful tool but not a master". This means that I will truly hope to meet you or one of your students on the mat, hopefully here in Europe. Thanks so much for your answer again, 고맙습니다!

fraudioc Yes Sir, I hope to meet you as well. When you visit U.S. in the future please visit our school,we will always welcome you and train with us. In fact, I will do European country martial arts tour within next couple of years. If you would like to have me at your school for a seminar,I would be more than happy to do that for you and your students. God bless !

Thank you for your meaningful comments Sir, I absolutely agree with you on the way of learn martial art(the teacher and student) at my dojang, I often share my thought with my students that is " your master is not your true master he or she is your nothing more than a guider. Your true master is the master within, you need to find your master from your self to guide and drive your passionate level of training". .... the world most remarkable martial artists like Hapkido founder Ji Han Jae, Kyokushin founder Choi Yong Ui (Oyama Matsudatsu) Jeetkundo founder Bruce Lee, they are all commonly knew how to find their own master within to open up the new era of martial arts in 20th century. IMHO martial arts techniques are like a gun, you can own your gun, however you just can't guarantee your self to become an expert shooter unless you have spent countless hours of training to feel every little eliments between you and your gun. Some folks are here to show nothing more than their ignorance, lack of experience, poor knowledge, biased opinions and totally messed up personal characters. Again, thank you very much for taking your valuable time to share you positive thought. God bless you Sir,

I was interested to read your post about Aikido, and especially how you find it useful in your position as a bouncer. Years (many years) ago, I read an article by a police officer who trained in Aikido, and who felt that his art was not very useful against an aggressive, determined attacker. I'm encouraged to hear that your experience has been different!

Hey thanks for your reply, I have come across either that story or a similar story on the net where a police officer felt as though Aikido had let him down. I just want to give you my opinion on this, having been in the security industry, and through training with Aikido I have had the opportunity (because my sensei instructs empty hand self deference tactics training) using his Aikido skills, to attend his security tactics training sessions and assisted him in training security officers and police officers with empty hand tactics, on one occasion one of the police officers I was training with was so impressed with me that he recommended I study a Justice course he teaches, which is the minimum requirement to go into the police force and I currently am. But more on, I have found that my senei and myself are far better equipped to deal with difficult resisting people than an officer who doesn't train at all and relies on their academy training, like I said my sensei's master is a corrections officer/Jail warden and uses aikido to assist him whilst working in jails, and my sensei and myself are both bouncers and body guards, Licensed, and both rely on aikido to assist us. This leads me to my next statement, any professional who's duty it is to address conflict, aggressive people, can not rely on one tool, (aikido as the tool) police officers carry mace, batons, tasers, guns and could use the law to justify using those methods of force, security officers well bouncers don't have any of those things but we do have numbers, one thing any professional should do before proceeding to put them selves in a confrontation is to properly assess the situation, aikido also teaches aviodence, in the police or security profession it is called tactical withdrawal, which is where before putting your self in harms way you assess the situation and decide it is too dangerous and you eith call back up, or in a police officers case taser mace, baton to deal with a potentially dangerous offender.

I think all Martial Arts have their good points and bad points, you can't really compare Aikido to Tai boxing, for example one is a Martial Art designed for self defense, requiring minimum effort and the other is a sport using hard force, If I can give you a few tips on Aikido, It is not competitive, you wont see aikido widely publicized such as BJJ MT JUDO, because its not a sport, Aikidoka are not renowned for their striking, this is because of its origins, In its original form Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu was a method of unarmed combat used against Samurai, there is no point punching someone in the face who is wearing a Steel Helmet, but much more effective to dissarm them and in the process disable their arm by breaking it so as its impossible for them to pick a sword up, even in its modern form a confident Akidoka wont stand there and go round for round boxing striking when it is as simple as avoiding the hit and immobilization of that body part by dislocation break or a throw head first into the ground. If you want to train in Aikido you need to find a good Sensei, And a good style of aikido because they vary greatly, the style I train in is basically a mixed style, compromising of hard and soft techniques, we train to block, strike, fists elbows, we alsotrain in karate style kicks, and there is also opportunity for bjj style ground work in the club I train at, mainly because all of my Senseis have trained in other Martial Arts bjj, silat, karate etc so our hard forms are hard karate style blocks with counter striking followed through with a technique designed to break bones, our soft is more focused on aiki ie blending with the attackers force. also when you watch an akido demo on you tube, keep in mind that the attacker who is receiving the defense counter actually trains to go with the technique, this is a must because if you don't go with a hard aikido technique it will damage you, that is why we train the technique and we train on how to receive the technique, when you put a aikido technique on someone who hasn't trained to roll or fall they fight it and hurt them selves, I have done this before at work to untrained people. so the demos may look fake and scripted or Choreographed, they are not, thats just the other side to aikido. I have no problems with other art forms actually I am hoping by the end of this year to be cross training in judo and shotokan karate as well as aikido, I hope you have fun in what every you do

Mathew Chandler Very nice comment, this is what I like about the real marital art trainees attitude toward their beloved art and to other styles in general. Everyone must know that each art has a weakest point and strongest point in their style, so it is not fair to compare any of the two style while its characteristics is very different. Again, thanks for your comment. Kudos to you !

They have shared the same principles, for you for the best way to find the differences please watch the videos in the KZfaq channel. Thanks,

Thank you for your comment Sir, yes,Hapkido has the same root as Aikido which is Aiki-jujitsu. Two things that I would like to share it with you. # 1 Hapkido has no TKD infulence but TKD has( Back round house kick or spin kick and Hosinsul) # 2 when I said " Wannabe ilegitimate instructors" it was form my perspective NOT anyone else. So to speak,I respect everyone's opinion,however, I don't agree with them for everything, at the same time, I don't disrespect for any reason neither. I choose not to unreasonablly arge with anyone else behind the computer but if anyone wants to prove their experience with me then I always welcome them to visit my school with good manner.

yeah, i started practicing hapkido just two days ago and what I've learned so far is really usefull and somethings that my instructor has and shown us that black belts do is really painful to the attacker for example breaking arms and legs. but it's only for defense

+2windswords Thanks for the comment Sir, however, some of your information is incorrect Sir, THE FACT: Hapkido founder is not Choi Yon Sul nor Suh Bok Sub( Choi's first student and he was a Judo black belt, he didn't found Hapkido he was just Choi's student). The founder is Dojunim Ji Han Jae. In fact, after Ji Han Jae named his art as Hapkido he then honored to his teacher to use it because his teacher wanted to have a new name for his art that was the pure reason why some people think that Choi Yung Sul is the Hapkido founder but actually he is not. He was a Yawara teacher. Dojunim ji Han Jae is my Hapkido direct teacher. He was the one whom constructed the entire system of Hapkido with few of his early colleagues. In fact, Hapkido has no Tae Kwon Do kicks in it, Tae Kwon do has it such as TKD spinning hook kick is from Hapkido. TKD GM Park Hae Man took the technique from my teacher while he was working for the Korean president palace security team,they both work there at the time.

Choi was the 10th degree supreme grandmaster and he named a successor to Hapkido one Chin Il Chang and promoted him to 10th Dan. Jae was only 10th degree of his own system (Sin Moo Hapkido). His contribution to Hapkido was incorporating the kicks of TKD and Taekkyeon - Korean Foot Fighting which was developed by the Hwarang warriers. Jae's expansion of Hapkido made it what it is today, but even the official Korean government agencies recognize Choi as the founder. Jae got his base knowledge from Choi. He came up with the name but he did not found the system - he perfected it. Wikipedia says "The foundation for Hapkido was established by Choi. Returning from Japan in 1946, Choi began teaching material reportedly taught to Choi by Sokaku Takeda. Choi called his style Yawara, but modified the name to Hapki Yusul. Choi's practices were later renamed to Hapkido (by Jae) and students of Choi such as Ji Han Jae, Myung Kwang-Sik, Han Bong-Soo and others helped to spread this art both inside and outside of Korea." No disrespect to Jae, he may be the best Hapkido practitioner of all time.

Thanks for your effort. God bless!

Don't you think there are schools in every art that are not legitimate tho? What art you chose is important but you also have to be careful what school you chose. Lets be honest, your paying money to learn so there will always be people out there looking to take your money. How many people say they know martial arts and then get beat up by a regular guy on the street who knows nothing? We have all seen that happen. That should statistically hardly ever happen if you knew real martial arts so obviously some people are lying and others were just tricked into paying for lessons that are not as useful as they have been presented to be. Just investigate the school carefully before spending years of your life there.

Rebecca Herbert I must respectfully disagree with this position. As important as picking an art that complements you is, finding the right instructor is much more important. They are your conduit and your window to the art, and the art will not be reflected any better in your eyes than your ability to see it. Additionally it's worth noting that almost all arts, with the exception of VERY few, have a distinguished history of effectiveness, or they wouldn't exist at all. The biggest question will always be, which art most resonates with you, as that's the art you will truly be able to hone and make your own.

TheShizenDojo thats fine, your entitled to your opinion and you are nice about it. I do not think a person is limited to any art myself. people like dan inosanto and chuck norris (and most of my family even tho they are not famous) hold high level belts in a few arts (my dad is a hapkido black belt) and take bjj from the machado brothers right now (I think dan inosanto is a bjj black belt and norris is brown). I speak from my expirience and yours may be different. I see schools who misrepresent what they teach and that is in every art across the board. some schools are wonderful and honest and some are thieves (just like with anything else). there are good and bad cops, doctors, auto mechanics, teachers, and everything else so people looking to start martial arts for the first time should not expect the martial arts community to be immune to bad behavior like pretending you have a legitimate belt in an art when you actually do not.

Rebecca Herbert It does not appear that you disagreed with my position regarding the priority of picking the right school/teacher (more like underscored how important it is to pick the right school). I am in no way advocating that a person must pick only one art (though until you achieve an advanced level in your first art, you are likely better off continuing to focus on mastering it before looking to other arts). I'm in complete agreement that there are many pretend schools (I could name a few), in fact I would say there are many pretend arts that have been started by pretend masters from those pretend schools. However, none of those pretend arts have achieved any serious success. My statement about effectiveness of all arts, was in regards to well established arts: Jujitsu, Aiki-jujitsu, Karate, Wing Tsun, Taikwondo, Hapkido, Shaolin, etc... Real arts, that have real linages. With all the posturing that's taking place in the US (and probably the world, though I don't know about that), I believe it's vital to pick a good school with a good instructor who knows what he's doing, and I would prioritize that over picking "my favorite art". Better to learn a real art from a real instructor than to learn "your favorite art" from someone who isn't qualified. At best you won't learn what you think/hope you will, at worse you may end up getting seriously hurt due to their incompetence.

Rebecca Herbert I just reread your first post. I must apologize, I misread it the first time around. I believe you and I are saying the same thing. I thought, you said that, "picking the right art is the *most* important thing" and that was what I disagreed with, but you didn't say that. It seemed like you said that the pick of which art was should be your first consideration, and the instructor your second. I personally feel it's 1) Your instructor and 2) Your art. ...but as I said, I think we're on the same page, sorry for the confusion. :)

+Hunter H Both.

+Hunter H There are numerous differences between Hapkido and Aikido, particularly in terms of techniques. But one of the biggest differences is that Hapkido comes from Korea, while Aikido comes from Japan. Hope that helps.

one. is Korean and akido is Japanese

+Hunter H Hapkido and Aikido both come from Daitō-Ryu Aiki-Jujutsu which is from Japan its said that it comes from Choi Yong-sool who spent 30 years in japan and he didn't return to Korea until after World War two

From what I noticed Aikido focuses much more on minimal movement and much less on striking with a mindset of minimal movement with maximum damage possible, while Hapkido is just focused on maximum damage. I also believe that Hapkido has much better striking.

McFlubberpants I agree with it possibly a general look if you've never practiced or studied true Aikido. They have different striking...but I wouldn't put one over the other unless you prefer higher kicks then Hapkido is your art.

Mike Reis High kicks all the way!

Mike Reis To be clear I do prefer Hapkido over Aikido because its joint locks are much more violent than Aikido's and thanks to physics they would do more damage to the joints and I feel that it's striking is better and includes techniques an Aikido artist would be unfamiliar with. Plus Hapkido has a much more aggressive mindset which as a martial artist I prefer. However do not misinterpret this as me saying Hapkido is better. I would never say one martial art is better than another. I'm just saying it works better for me.

McFlubberpants Please watch my most recent video by click my channel name you then able to see my entire videos. In that particular video, you will get a chance to see what can possibly happens when you throw a high kick to a person who knew how to counter the kick. I am not trying to say "high kick" is useless. It is all depends on each individual.

+Irene Iglesias Fernandez Sir, I will have an online Hapkido class opening soon. You can train at your area with your partner and you can travel once a year to visit my school to train among us and also you can grade your rank. I will release the entire information within next 6 weeks. Thanks for your interest in learning Hapkido. Respectfully,

+Hapkido worldwide i really wish to be in your class but i live in spain, a little difficult to be there, so sad... anyway, if i travel to eeuu for sure i will go to your school. i will enjoy your lessons by internet. all the best for you

Irene Iglesias Fernandez Thank you Sir,

+Irene Iglesias Fernandez Actually there is hapkido in Spain, surprising that you don't know that. Federación Española de HapkidoAsociación Kido España de HapkidoAsociación Hanminjok Hapkido EspañaSin Moo Hapkido en España

+Irene Iglesias Fernandez Sorry these got run together: Federación Española de Hapkido, Asociación Kido España de Hapkido, Asociación Hanminjok Hapkido España, Sin Moo Hapkido en España

lol

+Aldwin Graymorgan Both styles have the same name in chinese characters too, also, both creators studied with the same master of Aikijutsu.

the creator of hapkido lived in Japan for 30years hapkido takes from that style, aikido and judo. when he came back to Korea after WW2 he then started teaching hapkido.

so yeah, they are a kin in a sense.

Your information is inaccurate. FYI HKD didn't take any from AKD. In fact, GM CHOI style is not equally the same as the current Hapkido. His style was Hapkiyusul NOT Hapkido. Thanks,