That just reminds me of that sick Soul Calibur reference in MK 11 from Spawn when talking to Scorpion. "You've been to other worlds?" "Each with their own Injustices." "Maybe that's why my soul still burns."

thats nice, dont let that man touch that shit

My company hates me, but I acted this way to avoid the same outcome that happened with Soul Calibur.

the most Woolie thing i've ever read in a Max comment section

IT DOES BURN 🔥

My thoughts exactly upon hearing all of this.

Harada’s motto isn’t just aimed at toxic fans. It is also aimed at the corporate stooges who want to ruin his game for the sake of a quick buck. It is very easy to imagine a corpo trying to tell Harada to put unskippable ads to Tekken, only for Harada to point at his own shirt while saying his slogan.

Ive been talking about this ever since the BP was I troduced and people were going rabid. Did people really think we could even get a proper T8 without some form of extra monetization? This shows how unavoidable monetization on top of the base price was. It was either make the money, or Tekken starts being binned for ventures more worth Bandai Namco money. This is why people need to stop complaining about non essential gameplay monetization, negate these days you either have it, or the big boys up top say the franchise is done. LIke maybe if Soul Calibur had done one or two BPs in it's first year, with some low budget, low effort cosmetics like T8 has, then they would've made those year 1 sales numbers. But this was before BPs were big, so instead SC gets GG'd as a series.

I don't think so. At this point, I consider Darkstalkers a product of it's time in the wild gaming 90's. I don't think that you could get away with DS today with the amount of visual fidelity that would be demanded of a game, it would invite way too much scrutiny.... and many don't remember the close call that the industry had with Mortal Kombat, Midway got dragged to congress for that and was at the centre of a committee hearing. At this point, I have let DS go... I don't think that Capcom will ever revisit Darkstalkers in my lifetime outside of collections. Soulcalibur boat isn't that, it's more that their is someone, a team, that is missing to go to bat for it. That is a hard problem to fix, no doubt, but it can be fix.... Street Fighter was missing that till Ono pull some figurative teeth to get SF4 out the door. Ed Boon entire career is Mortal Kombat, for better and worse. Harada and the "Tekken Team"... nuff said really. Sakurai.... again, nuff said (to the point that I worry if he was to leave the Smash Project). And so on. And we have seen when the creative influence walks away.... as has been the case with BlazBlue and Mori. Their are a few folks at Bandai that could likely get the old band back together (and make a new one) but they are going to need to be ready for Bandai to be Bandai and fight hard to convince them that this is good idea to push forward. Not easy when you are talking about food on the table and putting your kid through school, know that they are at risk with a failure.

@@DuvJones Thats quite the chunk of text, but fair enough.

@@DuvJones It would be like getting the A-team back together. Literally, in this case.

just wait 10 years to take that theory to the test

Asura's Wrath:

There’s still hope. I personally believe we might see another DOA game (not for a long while probably). Also did you notice, if you count soul blade or soul edge, both series’s 6th mainline entries are considered the worst and put the respective franchises in jeopardy only to be followed up by a reboot. (From what we know so far)

Bloody Roar joins the party.

and forevermore

My two favorite fighting game franchises 😭 maybe I just need different tastes in games or something

@@Rayhaku808 i just play those till this day

He's my favorite game developer of all time. F R E E

Harada has always been cool. He just suffers from the fanbase of his game being rabid. He's pretty respected overall by developers and fans of other series. It's just Tekken fans that have this burning hatred for him.

What a Chad, more knowing how Japanese people act and how disrepectful to the company can be taken a post like this.

Honest, open and awesome! Can't help but agree

​@@jameshalle558I love tekken but I don't hate him I think he is an artist and he needs time to paint his picture and when he is done we always get a masterwork

Actually it's because none of the higher ups fired him for messing with budgets and unofficially taking charge of a project he had no authority to do so. Also Tekken wasn't forced to push out an unfinished game after an earthquake-tsunami-nuclear meltdown conga line of national disasters while Tekken 7 gets to have 2 years in the arcades before console release. Bamco: Hmmm, I have two children, but only the one I feed and clothe is growing. The other child must be lazy! It couldn't be MY fault!

@spiffythealien the situation was tough. Nobody can deny that, but sc 6 also didn't fulfill the goals bamco had set after its launch, which led to okubo leaving. Sometimes, a project needs people who are unrelenting in their pursuit. Somebody has to stick to certain principles when all the high ups care about the line going up

​@@spiffythealien Only problem with your statement is... Harada is one of the higher ups! He's not just a director for Tekken Project or a producer... he's also a general manager of the company.

So what you're telling me is that there's hope?!!

Soul Calibur isn't dead. It's on ice for now, but it'll be back. God help the next producer though lol😅.

Oh, don't worry. It'll get longer.

Great you jinxed it Only silver lining 6 was good compared to Daishit's monstrosity of a game

That's crazy man. I remember how long those years between SC5 and SC6 felt

This isn't true for anything but bandai namco. The structure of bandai namco isn't the same as those other companies

Konami also cleaned out Naoki Maeda and Akira Yamaoka as well. :(

@@ausgod538 You need to re-read Harada's tweet. While he's talking about his experiences at Bandai Namco, language was used to make it clear this is similar thinking to a lot of japanese corporate structure in general.

Yep, always knew there were alot of decisions by suits.

I won't say much because what Harada has said is an excellent incite to how the 2010-CURRENT Japanese business structure works, but I used to work at Sony Pictures/Animation and lets say these are the types of things and decision making that slowly lets Marvel slip out of Sony's hands (regardless of money) over to Disney. IT DOESN"T EXIST, but I used to hear chatter about Spider Verse level passion and budget for Avengers and Xmen... Xmen 97 is amazing and probably wouldn't have happened if not for Disney so there is always pro and con. Unfortuantely the con is ALWAYS a separation of power and passion in the longevity of the product because "Why would you not want to grow up" so to speak. Also, look at how Capcom was trending RIGHT BEFORE they huge influx of passionate leaders and devs they have today. It's across the board. Kaz (Project Aces) has spoken the same way in how much leadership wants him to "Stop playing games" during TGS interviews.

I hope more people see this it's weird that your comment isn't getting much traction as the one who started all this

MY SOUL STILL BURNS!

Yes very good, you asked a question. Well done.

It could work if we banded together as a community.

Tekken is too entrenched as the Namco fighter now.

It makes me sad. Soul Calibur VI at EVO 2019 was one of the hypest events at the show. The entire crowd shouting the words: "I HAVE NONE!" in unison was unforgettable.

Yoshimitsu: Dude just join Tekken.

@@TheCrewExpendableMitsurugi: Bro I can't, they don't want to do guest characters rn.

Heishiro Mitsurugi, is NOT ready to die!

@@TheCrewExpendable honestly? Just port over the most memorable SC characters into Tekken. Ivy, Taki, Siegfried, Mitsurugi, Sophitia. 2 of the most iconic male characters and the 3 ladies that represented fanservice in all the different definitions of the term. See how that goes. If it goes well, just merge more of them in. Plot justification? Some sort of demonic magic fuckery pulling champions of the past or whatever. If the people love them, then there's your signal to possibly reinvest in a new Soul Calibur series.

One day well all be screaming like Max did when MvC2 came back. cant wait.

I remember how happy I was when we got SC2 on PS3 with online play. Good times.

I remember those days. Back when fighting games where huge visual showcases on consoles. You could effectively devote the entire GPU to just two characters on screen so they looked amazing compared to every other game.

@@SavageColeTrain😮 really?! I didn’t know about this. Was the guest characters there?

​@@AlexCole272Heihachi and Spawn was.

Licensing would be a nightmare, unfortunately. That's what guest characters get you. Super hype and exciting in the moment, but the tradeoff is your game is never getting rereleased and if it is, it's an exception, not the rule.

And make it roll back and online play

​@@yinepuiwhite3955very true. It's definitely the major issue with getting these games on major platforms. Not to mention the only truly "complete" version would be a Switch version because of Link in SC2.

bro if they can't even manage to release a collection of the first 3 Tekken games XD

Gimme the game cube version with Link

Influencers always eat up whatever Harada spews out onto twitter like its haute cuisine. It was a good read, but in the end its a ton of nothing and lacks a lot self-awareness. Lot of errors in Max's reading of it too, flat out reading words as totally different words.

He was too important to fire at that point not that it seems he knew that. Tekken is lucky it had him or its possible it'd have either joined or taken Soul Calibur's place.

My thoughts exactly.

True.

AAA game development is just another by-product of good ole corporate greed. It doesn't matter if you make the Mona Lisa of video games. The corpos WILL demand that you rip that painting in half and make people pay DLC if they want to see the whole thing.

Taki's bodysuit and Cassandra's tights "awaken" a lot of young lads.

but ivys massive milkers tho

@@matrielledon’t forget Sophitia’s thighs.

Ivy

Fucking love how hot Taki looks in SC6. Peak design.

Yeah, SC6 was really fun after the lackluster - for me - 4th and 5th entries. Also, Best group of guest characters after SC2 imo. Haohmaru vs Mitsurugi had been a dream match for so long it was truly awesome when Haohmaru was announced as DLC.

@@AlbionVega Them having Geralt of Rivia is still so goddamn cool in my eyes, and fucking 2B too!

The thing is niche stuff never gets a big budget

Problem with sc is that its a 3d fighter. Fgc usually loves 2d fighters more (including me). Tekken is a big exception there. 2d fighters once tried to go 3d, noticed it doesnt work that well and stopped

Couldn't agree more. Even during the time of the great guest characters like Vader and Link, I was under the impression that EVERYONE knew about this franchise till I found out that very little even knew about it. But that's what made the series a little bit more special to me.

They need to remove the meter system. That game doesn’t need it. Remove the awakenings and critical finishes. The. They need to refine the guard impact system. It’s a weapon based fighter after all. The party mechanic shouldn’t be something you need to burn meter for.

I feel like the problem is that most people are not interested in stuff like weapons or anything involving medieval weapons so it will never probably get a boost in sales

I semi agree 😂. As someone who loved SC6 story writing, I really wanted to see where the story was going next. Especially when the game ended in a To be continued...

Yeah the to be continued does leave me a little sad and that what kind of possibilities could be moved forward​@@SeventhheavenDK

@@LowellLucasJr.well hey, if that doesn’t work out, I do have an idea that could.

@@IamaPERSON oh?

@@LowellLucasJr. yep. It’s called Soul Kombat, a crossover between Soulcalibur and Mortal Kombat. It would have Nightmare and Shang Tsung team up, to harvest souls using his soulnado, with Tsung attempting to betray Nightmare (because of course he would)

"Playing It SAFE" Has been nothing but a curse for video games smh.

This is a problem that other creative industries (like movies) have as well. Unfortunately the execs want to run all businesses like a factory where things are very predictable and stable. The problem is culture is not like that. Capcom made a billion dollars in the 90s from arcade SF2 alone. You can't predict when you will accidentally create a new incredibly popular genre (especially when SF1 was garbage). Execs see profits but only understand the factory model. The result is as you said. They spend $200 million on safe franchises and expect billions just like it was a mining, oil company, or factory where you could invest in more equipment to produce more ore/oil/widgets and make more money.

We as the community they are essentially trying to market to need to hold them accountable.

BLOODY ROAR PLEEEASE COME BACK

bloody roar so dead Max doesn’t even mention it

Wait DoA is dead too?

@@ryanj4607 yes

There’s also senran kagura. It’s all Sony’s fault they’re keeping the mainline series dead

SC2 would be huge if they did the HD version again with all the characters combined (minus link being missing)

Good Luck with that, are you gonna start the fire and gather the embers

I wish SC3 had that same love 😅 it would have been awesome but I get it Nintendo fans want Link a lot.

@@danteshollowedgrounds well they could just do a Soul Calibur collection of some sorts

It's kind of ironic for you saying this because SC6 unfortunately didn't sell well in the time it needed to AND SC2 HD was Delisted off of PSN and the Microsoft Store a year back. That means, unless you already bought it, you can't buy in on modern systems like the Xbox One and Series consoles.

10 years from when Max asked 2 years ago 😢

Actually Harada said that in 2022, so come back in 8 years and we’ll see about that.

Not if it’s just a copy and paste of the last few SC that we didn’t like. We need our original SC we actually liked and people still play at tournaments like SC II & SV IV

i hope ivy ass will be huge in SC7..........

Tekken 7 was made with an even SMALLER budget but it was enough for Tekken 8 to exists. Soulcalibur was never as big as Tekken. but, it's chances will skyrocket of Sparking Zero is blasted by critics.

@eyalrephaeli6833 For clarification, you're saying that T7's dev budget was even lower than SC6? Considering the final product compared to the pervious versions of each game I simply cannot believe that. T7 was superior to T6 in all aspects from graphics, roster, and content with 2 yearsof DLC and superior marketing. SC6 looked like and updated version of SC4 and had the smallest roster to date. If there was real data (actual numbers) that shows T7 having a smaller budget than SC6 then I'll change my tune. But you cannot look at the final product and tell me that SC6 had more money behind it than T7.

@@OutlawCarr I'm not sure if T7 had less of a budget than SC6 but Tekken 7 had an arcade release with a way smaller roster compared to the console port. I think one of the factors that made T7 succeed that end up hurting SC6 was that T7 had and arcade release years before the console port, add to that how (at least in Japan) Tekken was always more successful in arcades than Soul Calibur (the GAMEST magazine would be my source for that) so T7 had plenty of excuses to release an arcade port first which ended up being successful enough to help the game grow before the console port.

We all need to shine on to see How far we've come on our journey

ask the devs

Personally, id rather the arcade exclusive conquest mode to return in some way

I still miss Edge Master mode, even though doing the Colosseum as Li Long was an absolute nightmare.

@@kitestar Why not both?

@@TheDawnofGaming 🤔

was it? i felt there was something in there but i'm dense lol had to comment scan xD

Thought the same 😂

Judging by the fact SC2 on GCN sold the most if they just make it multi platform and put good exclusive characters in it'll probably sell well, only issue is obviously tournament play

If it could have the same impact as Soul Calibur 2 on the Dreamcast for casual fans and competitive ones, sure

I agree. It felt very iterative instead of a fresh new take. Granted, I did really enjoy the game and it's leaps and bounds ahead of 5, but you can see a lot of the same bones that have been around since 4.

To put it in perspective, Tekken 7's dlc had a bigger budget than the entirety of Soul Calibur 6.

It WAS low-budget because Okubo had to practically Beg Bamco to bring it back after the disaster that was SCV

It's also worth noting that SCVI has way less budget than both of them, and that Namco basically did no publicity for them

I don't understand how it is not more popular..

You a billionaire willing to pay for it? Otherwise it's never coming back, just like Darkstalkers.

@@DoctorDoom84 SC3 was one of the best fighting games of all time nice bait

@@Kingdom-zu6tm absolutely

@@DoctorDoom84 Never seen a take any more wrong

I found it better than DOA personally not Tekken but it's whatever.

Yeah, I don’t want to bash Tekken, but… it’s not the same.

@@cylondorado4582 . Yeah, SoulCalibur has something special. I actually liked Tekken 3 a lot, and I like the character of Nina Williams, but with the pass of time I lost interest in Tekken. It's a good game, but I simply don't like it that much, personally, I never found the appeal on it.

Adding to that, the fact that you use weapons in the series, where most others have you fight with fists and kicks, makes this a little more special.

That might happen, they released Broken Destiny on PS4/ps5 some time ago.

It was an awesome read. Protect that man at all costs. He's a gem.

The community has to be behind this and put our money where are mouth is like how the Marvel community did.

At least it still possible for Soulcalibur to return. I lost hope for any new/ports/remasters/etc of Bloody Roar.

They only have a idea of what makes a profitable game, not a good one, that's why you get mobile phone slop/shovelware that still makes them a gazillion dollars or whatever.

CalibUr!!! Why so many people can't get this series' name right?

This is why we need more and more AI tools--so the costs to develop games plummet, so that more and more people can be one-man game studios.

Also franchise history and fan expectations put heavy restrictions on what you can do with a franchise.

DING DING DING DING BINGO, that's actually literally what happened. SFIII WAS a failure, especially 3S since, as James Chen pointed out in an interview, nobody cared. Making games MORE like SFIII makes them worse but whenever games like SF6 or Tekken 8 or Xrd are made more like SC, THE GAMES IMPROVE! Aris was jizzing himself at the fact characters in T8 can perform GCF moves from full crouch now, something which SC has been doing the whole time.

Forgot to give the game the '3rd Strike' patch then. The kind of patch where people will still play it and have tourneys running for it 30 years later 😅.

Yes, there was someone there who sincerely cared about its direction, and it was sad to see them eventually post something like "I'm just a slave to the machine" or something on their twitter before the game came out, and then they left. Soul Calibur 5 was also a victim of low budget (probably lower than 6's) and an even lower timeframe to be made iirc (like, criminally low). The team seemed incredibly passionate and laid out a bunch of ideas that never ended up happening because of the rushed development, we all would have gotten more fleshed out newcomers in terms of story at least if it hadn't. Honestly, SC5 at launch was the best the series has been (at least to me), but due to the complaints of the (much smaller) Japanese userbase, they nerfed backstep and made the game much worse in a patch a few months later. That and the netcode just somehow got much worse...

I miss features like that. With everything relying on dlc, and season passes. Ideas like that, are no more sadly